UPSB v3
Advanced Tricks / Twisted Sonic Multiple Bust
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Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 10:21:41
First of all, what is the correct name of this trick?
and secondly when doing the twisted sonic bust - bak rev, my understanding of it is you lift your index finger to allow the bak rev to spin and close it for the catch. But in twisted sonic triple bust do you close your index finger for the catch of the first bak rev and open it again for the second bak rev? or do you leave your finger open and go into the second bak rev? -
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 10:27:56
I just leave my finger out. Closing it would just result in a catch.
Twisted Sonic > Bak Rev ~> Bak Rev ~> Bak Rev -
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 10:50:55
I would think that it would be [Sketching Breakdown] Twisted Sonic Normal 1.5 23-12> Indexaround normal 1.0 12-12> Backaround Reverse 1.0 12-12> Backaround Reverse 1.0 12-12.[/Sketching Breakdown]
It could also be backaround reverse cont. X2. -
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 11:44:28
you NEVER catch it back. it's like TA > FL TA x2.
if not, it's like a cont palm down index around, non-fingerless.
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Date: Sun, Dec 2 2007 22:51:42
Probably one of the coolest tricks that I've ever seen, but I am having so much trouble with it!
Yes, I HAVE seen Eso's tutorial.
So is it that after you do the initial "bust", do you slide your finger upwards alon the barrel of the pen and tap it again?
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Date: Sun, Dec 2 2007 23:27:39
a lot of people say just keep practicing and you'll do one in like 30 mins. This wasn't the case for me and i still have trouble doing it. but what i have found is the best way to do it is do a twisted sonic bust, then really make a big gap between your index and middle fingers (so they are at a 90 degree angle from each other). Then jerk your hand down and forward. Like at a 30 degrees below the horizontal. Most i've got with this is 2 bak revs after the initial twisted sonic bust, but thats good enough for now. anyway keep practicing and good luck. hope this helped.
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Date: Sun, Dec 2 2007 23:31:29
Thanks for that advice.
Needed those kind of details. :]
Now to give it a shot. Dx -
Date: Mon, Dec 3 2007 10:32:13
any tips for the catch??
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Date: Mon, Dec 3 2007 10:48:51
hey , i made a tuto video month ago on fpsb
the explanations are in french sorry but i guees you can understand the whole thing
http://ckikisait.free.fr/doom/videos/tutobust.wmv -
Date: Mon, Dec 3 2007 23:20:15
The link worked fine.
Thanks a lot, I really saw what I needed to do in the first few seconds! ^^ -
Date: Tue, Dec 4 2007 21:01:40
... the way I do it is I just do the twisted sonic and as it's coming around I jerk the hand forward and let the pen slide back while going around my finger the second time...
youtube link
bust rev -
Date: Tue, Dec 4 2007 22:21:31
um...there's a little section for video tutorials in this forum section...
If you looked, you would have found Eso's twisted sonic bust-> bak rev tutorial -
Date: Tue, Dec 4 2007 22:39:12
he said he already looked at it and it didn't help... I find that after I learn some tricks and look at eso's tutorials they don't fit what i do...
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Date: Wed, Dec 5 2007 02:32:29
im having trouble with this too, but i find that it works most of the time if i can catch the twisted bust with the cop of the pen mainly under the palm, so if youre using a bictory (or any other double cap mod), just top bit of the pen and the cap is showing, the rest is under your palm. Then a wrist flick done correctly will get you youre indexaround. or bak rev. whatever you new schoolers call it.
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Date: Wed, Dec 5 2007 19:56:35
I don't get what's so hard to understand about my tutorial. If anything, it's not the hand motion that's giving you problems. It's the timing and positioning of the pen before even attempting the Bak Rev. You raise finger 1 right after the pen is vertical with respect to gravity. Finger 1 will nudge the pen during the hand motion and shift the COB so that it will start rotating around it again.
Another possible problem is that you aren't doing the initial Twisted Sonic Bust all that proper. The first Bust needs to have enough momentum so that you are able to react in time to raise your finger and it needs to be thrown in the direction towards your flap between 1 and 2. -
Date: Wed, Dec 5 2007 20:46:56
when I do the double I don't really have to do anything because the pen jsut goes around twice if I start off with enough force, but I use a realy long pen so I dunno...
rather than stick you finger straight out which kind of was shown in the french one I jsut make another back rev motion and the pen just goes around fer 2 rotations... -
Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 04:22:12QUOTE (Eso @ Dec 6 2007, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't get what's so hard to understand about my tutorial. If anything, it's not the hand motion that's giving you problems. It's the timing and positioning of the pen before even attempting the Bak Rev. You raise finger 1 right after the pen is vertical with respect to gravity. Finger 1 will nudge the pen during the hand motion and shift the COB so that it will start rotating around it again.
Another possible problem is that you aren't doing the initial Twisted Sonic Bust all that proper. The first Bust needs to have enough momentum so that you are able to react in time to raise your finger and it needs to be thrown in the direction towards your flap between 1 and 2.
nothings wrong with ur tutorial or hard to understand about it.. i just had some problem with the catch and after like 3 days of practice.. i still couldn't catch..so i just asked for some tips thats all
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 06:23:34
Eso's tutorial on twisted sonic bust - bak rev is awesome. My first twisted sonic bust-bak rev was in 10 mins after watching it.
@WhiteFang: the catch is exactly the same as twisted sonic bust. If u can do twisted sonic bust then u should be able to do the twisted sonic bust - bak rev catch. -
Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 08:21:17
hmm...for the catch...it should just be like after 0a bust...you know...I'm having an easier time with TW Sonic bust 1.5 > bak rev...uh how do you call it?the one with the IA being 1.5?
EDIT: YES I FINALLY DID ONE!!well how I answered the above question is because of the feeling of catching TW sonic bust 1.5 > bak rev -
Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 10:58:52QUOTE (Eso @ Dec 5 2007, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't get what's so hard to understand about my tutorial. If anything, it's not the hand motion that's giving you problems. It's the timing and positioning of the pen before even attempting the Bak Rev. You raise finger 1 right after the pen is vertical with respect to gravity. Finger 1 will nudge the pen during the hand motion and shift the COB so that it will start rotating around it again.
Another possible problem is that you aren't doing the initial Twisted Sonic Bust all that proper. The first Bust needs to have enough momentum so that you are able to react in time to raise your finger and it needs to be thrown in the direction towards your flap between 1 and 2.
eso, i haven't seen other tutorials from you so im not gonna criticize, but on this one, i guess i see where people see confusion.
firstly, in 9 minutes of video, you don't perform the tricks even one time. i think you should have performed it one time, and then adding slow motion. i think thats the most helpfull.
the person i gave my tutorial understood the move in the few first sec of the video even if he doesn't understand french.
secondly, you learn how to do the second bak with a fingerpush.thats a good way to do it, but i guess people prefer to learn it with the second bak performed fingerless, so the whole portion where you speak of the gap between 1&2 etc...is kinda inapropriate.the whole explanation you give is very accurate, but i guess thats add confusion in peoples mind
on another hand, its very cool you talk about common problems, i ve never thought of that and i should have because its very usefull. -
Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 22:13:05
took me a while to get but it's easy if you catch it easily then you barely need to slide finger 1
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 23:39:09QUOTE (Eso @ Dec 5 2007, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't get what's so hard to understand about my tutorial. If anything, it's not the hand motion that's giving you problems. It's the timing and positioning of the pen before even attempting the Bak Rev. You raise finger 1 right after the pen is vertical with respect to gravity. Finger 1 will nudge the pen during the hand motion and shift the COB so that it will start rotating around it again.
Another possible problem is that you aren't doing the initial Twisted Sonic Bust all that proper. The first Bust needs to have enough momentum so that you are able to react in time to raise your finger and it needs to be thrown in the direction towards your flap between 1 and 2.
I'm not insulting your video.
I think that it was the positioning of my finger after the initial bust.
I don't think that I hit the pen right in order to do the bak rev. -
Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 20:51:48
wait im confused i do a twisted sonic to a bak rev, is this a sonic bust or do you do a sonic bust then add a bak rev somone please help
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Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 22:24:04
Sonic Bust and Twisted Sonic Bust are two different things.
Sonic Bust @ the wiki
Twisted Sonic Bust is a Twisted Sonic > Fingerless Fingeraround
ex.
Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Fingerless Indexaround -
Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 04:49:32
i think there was a thread for twisted sonic triple bust, but kinda changed to the twisted sonic bust bak rev.... how do u get the multiple bak rev?
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Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 05:19:29
If you can do twisted sonic bust > bust then clearly you know the concepts of how it's done so if you want multiple busts you just have to practice...
bust and bak rev are the same thing. -
Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 05:23:19
ehhh for some reason mine kinda..... jumps a little....
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Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 10:20:46
mine jumps a little too, it kinda leaves the hand and keeps moving upwards... but i seem to catch it (every 1 in 1000 tries) somehow
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Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 22:56:27
How in the world does Nory does his busts like 9 times? To me it's like impossible, the max I've ever done was triple and I still dont understand the concept of it
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Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 23:11:17
continuous arounds with 1 rotation always get some "air"
if you look closely Nory's bakrevs they are leaving the finger but he has such fine control over this that linking is no issue -
Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 23:43:52QUOTE (MantisJ @ Feb 25 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How in the world does Nory does his busts like 9 times? To me it's like impossible, the max I've ever done was triple and I still dont understand the concept of it
12 times
and it just takes a shitload of practice I never bothered to learn double+ bust but now Nory makes me want to learn it 
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Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 22:22:25
I could do a twisted sonic, but i have no idea what a bust actually is. I could do a bakaround fall, but the pinky -bak is too hard to do. i need help so badly!
everyone is so good at it, i feel bad, im a newbie aswell. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 12:14:41
Hunlualin can do 17 ! Unbelievable and looks amazingly awesome!
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 20:20:48
i can't do twisted sonic bust>bust yet...been trying tho...it just falls....>_>
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 23:53:44
can anyone explain the concept of it?
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 00:53:42QUOTE (Viper-X @ Mar 23 2008, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hunlualin can do 17 ! Unbelievable and looks amazingly awesome!
nory has done 17 also. -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 03:07:48QUOTE (Clyde @ Apr 7 2008, 02:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>nory has done 17 also.
So has Spinnerpeem. -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 03:43:29
I can do Twisted Sonic Bust > Bak rev every two tries or so. Difficult trick but a very good ending to combos.
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 14:57:33
The trick is to have the pen stay in the same relative position with each Bust. After the 2nd bust (Tw. S Bust > Bak Rev), you have to start the same hand motion for the 3rd Bust. The hard part is keeping track of the pen's position as well as keeping a steady hand. I find that only concentrating on 2 things help me: 1) Whether the pen has gone under finger 1; 2) if finger 1 has slid to the end of the pen to start the next Bust
Hope this helped. -
Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:19:55
Can you only back rev palm down?
Just wondering. -
Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:26:58
I can do bak rev with my palm kinda sideways i guess
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Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:27:14QUOTE (FreeLancer @ Apr 9 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can you only back rev palm down?
Just wondering.
No...
I can do back rev with my hand facing me...
I think =\
Just go with palm down... try that when you've mastered back rev palm down. -
Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 07:33:33
I can do it with my palm sideways, but I nudge it down a bit
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Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 08:09:32
yesterday i did it twice! (bust bust x2)
hurray!^^
eso learned it in 30 minutes tho...>_> -
Date: Tue, May 13 2008 22:16:52
shouldn't the correct notation be twisted sonic bust-> fingerless bak rev?
because you don't catch the pen after you do the bust -
Date: Tue, May 13 2008 22:22:58QUOTE (FreeLancer @ Apr 9 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can you only back rev palm down?
Just wondering.
JC and I were discussing this. I've been able to do the double bust for a short while now.
I perform my busts palm down, but he does his almost vertical. So far he has yet been able to do a double bust.
I've explained to him the positioning needed, but he still insists on doing it his way, and thusly insists on failing.
TL;DR: Do it palm down. -
Date: Tue, May 13 2008 23:22:08
I do my bak revs palm down so, yeah you can.
My bak revs used to have a slight pinch feel after each bak rev -- it was like a pinch catch, but the feeling went away after a while. -
Date: Wed, May 14 2008 00:15:08QUOTE (Aiyah @ May 13 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>shouldn't the correct notation be twisted sonic bust-> fingerless bak rev?
because you don't catch the pen after you do the bust
A bak is fingerless anyway so that's redundant. -
Date: Tue, Jun 3 2008 14:48:53
should the first motion around the indexfinger (the first bust) be done as an indexaround or a bak rev?
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Date: Fri, Feb 20 2009 05:46:20
I hope this helps some people in the trick's explanation. -
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 07:57:25
I can do 2 bust in a row but when it goes over my index finger my hand turns sideways, is that still a bust?
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Date: Tue, Feb 24 2009 08:12:01
i still dont know how to do x2 since like which finger to push it
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Date: Tue, Feb 24 2009 10:52:43
you don't really push with fingers.
Once you do Twisted Sonic Bust, you make a circular motion with your index finger (like writing a circle in air with the index finger) so that the pen is repositioned and could make another bust.
But you have to practice this a lot to get it right. -
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 06:05:24
I was talking to the huy who did Twisted sonic Bust x123 and he said that what you do is:
do a full bust then hit the pen up with your other fingers, then shift to the top and then pull down and towards yourself
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Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 15:35:12
o god that works
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Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 15:42:28
eso what is the most amount of bust u could do?
i learnt hw to do the double bust (or bak rev) but when i try to go to the 3rd bust the pen flies out far and i cannot hit the pen any help? -
Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 22:49:30QUOTE (Tushix @ Mar 8 2009, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I was talking to the huy who did Twisted sonic Bust x123 and he said that what you do is:
do a full bust then hit the pen up with your other fingers, then shift to the top and then pull down and towards yourself
wait, what? hit the pen up with your other fingers? what's that mean? -
Date: Fri, May 1 2009 01:07:20QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ May 1 2009, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wait, what? hit the pen up with your other fingers? what's that mean?
it means hit the pen up using middle, ring and pinky -
Date: Fri, May 1 2009 01:33:19
Still practicing that trick. My hands are angled slightly at 30-40 degree? Will still be able to do that trick?
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Date: Fri, May 15 2009 09:31:57
can any one explain spinnerpeem's way of busting?like moving only the finger?a vid tutorial would be good
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Date: Fri, May 15 2009 11:00:53QUOTE (phua sy @ May 15 2009, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can any one explain spinnerpeem's way of busting?like moving only the finger?a vid tutorial would be good
i think it is pretty much same. It takes practice to do that unless you are born to do it. -
Date: Sun, May 17 2009 18:01:09
If you need help busting watch Chau Tran and Energizell
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 19:40:25
i got better bye watching eso's tut, but it really depends on what style ur trying to do.
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 19:41:57
If you guys didn't know, some guy on THPSC got 187 busts
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Date: Mon, May 18 2009 10:01:57QUOTE (Tushix @ May 18 2009, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If you guys didn't know, some guy on THPSC got 187 busts
yup i saw.
Can bust still be counted if u hit the pen using the other fingerS?
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Date: Mon, May 18 2009 10:32:59QUOTE (phua sy @ May 18 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yup i saw.
Can bust still be counted if u hit the pen using the other fingerS?
Yes, if I'm not wrong. Someone posted a video of his number of busts. But he continued the busts with his middle finger hitting it after every busts. -
Date: Tue, May 19 2009 12:56:49QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 18 2009, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes, if I'm not wrong. Someone posted a video of his number of busts. But he continued the busts with his middle finger hitting it after every busts.
so u are saying that his index only contacted the pen on the first bust? -
Date: Tue, May 19 2009 13:08:34QUOTE (phua sy @ May 19 2009, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so u are saying that his index only contacted the pen on the first bust?
What you mean? Only his index came into contact with the pen on the first bust or only on the first bust he only had his index finger used while the rest was hit with the middle finger? -
Date: Tue, May 19 2009 13:33:55
I hate busts... because after almost 1 year I only can do Twisted sonic busts x5 or very sometimes x6
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Date: Wed, May 20 2009 07:04:05QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 19 2009, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What you mean? Only his index came into contact with the pen on the first bust or only on the first bust he only had his index finger used while the rest was hit with the middle finger?
Only his index came into contact with the pen on the first bust while the rest was hit with the middle finger? -
Date: Wed, May 20 2009 09:06:48QUOTE (phua sy @ May 20 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Only his index came into contact with the pen on the first bust while the rest was hit with the middle finger?
Ya, that should be it. -
Date: Wed, May 20 2009 09:55:28QUOTE (Nam Dang @ May 19 2009, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I hate busts... because after almost 1 year I only can do Twisted sonic busts x5 or very sometimes x6 QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 20 2009, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ya, that should be it.
How do ur do bust?
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Date: Wed, May 20 2009 10:45:06QUOTE (phua sy @ May 20 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How do ur do bust?
EDIT: How*
... my busts, or the busts that use the hit method?
If it's the latter, don't bother asking me. I don't know.
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Date: Wed, May 20 2009 13:03:53QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 20 2009, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>... my busts, or the busts that use the hit method?
If it's the latter, don't bother asking me. I don't know.
ur bust
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Date: Wed, May 20 2009 13:12:24QUOTE (phua sy @ May 20 2009, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ur bust
Mine... I explained to u several times already. I don't know how else I can explain.... -
Date: Thu, May 21 2009 10:41:07
I still cant get the twisted sonic multiple bust. Its like impossible. After the bust what do you do?!
I hate this trick too hard to learn -
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 09:51:45QUOTE (Kaffatsum @ May 21 2009, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I still cant get the twisted sonic multiple bust. Its like impossible. After the bust what do you do?!
I hate this trick too hard to learn
i agree
what do u mean what do u do?u mean trick? -
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 09:59:31
I can say it is not too hard... not too hard is different to easy
But I don't like practicing it... so that I'm not at this trick -
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:47:22
i agree they are hard to learn, especially triple busts. it gets kinda boring since so many spinners think its all about multiple busts, cont arounds and so on.
i rather focus on other tricks, though i could learn multiple busts if i practice harder. -
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:53:38QUOTE (defect @ May 23 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i agree they are hard to learn, especially triple busts. it gets kinda boring since so many spinners think its all about multiple busts, cont arounds and so on.
i rather focus on other tricks, though i could learn multiple busts if i practice harder.
me too.
but bust are jus time consuming for me -
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:06:51QUOTE (defect @ May 23 2009, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i agree they are hard to learn, especially triple busts. it gets kinda boring since so many spinners think its all about multiple busts, cont arounds and so on.
i rather focus on other tricks, though i could learn multiple busts if i practice harder.
Tripple busts is not that hard... Practice it for a week or at most 1 month, base on how much time you practice... I'm pretty sure u can do it
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Date: Sat, May 23 2009 13:02:52
I've been practising it for a month already and I still can't get even double bust consistent. Guess I'm just a fail
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Date: Sat, May 23 2009 16:06:55QUOTE (Sucks_sooo_hard @ May 23 2009, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've been practising it for a month already and I still can't get even double bust consistent. Guess I'm just a fail
Relax I only knew how to do double bust or more when I was 1~ year... Take your time, you'll learn it eventually
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Date: Sat, May 23 2009 17:58:37
I suck so much as busting. Most i can do continuously is only 3.
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Date: Sat, May 23 2009 19:41:17
it only took me about 3 weeks but thats cause i kept on doing it over and over. but it not really about sliding your finger up because there are different methods. you could keep your dinger solid and just move your wrist or move your finger
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Date: Sat, May 23 2009 20:51:07
Well, I feel that the essential thing is to have a consistent and at the same time, accurate timing when you move ur wrist/finger/whatever while attempting multiple busts.
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 05:31:22QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 24 2009, 04:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, I feel that the essential thing is to have a consistent and at the same time, accurate timing when you move ur wrist/finger/whatever while attempting multiple busts.
giv me the link to the spinner that used other fingers to hit the pen to bust and explain ur bust again here. maybe reading might be easier -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 06:53:39QUOTE (phua sy @ May 24 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>giv me the link to the spinner that used other fingers to hit the pen to bust and explain ur bust again here. maybe reading might be easier
He only used the middle finger. And I couldn't frigging find his video. It's idk how long ago since I last viewed. My busts are just hitting at the right moment. Not really hitting, just move. XD I fail at explaining. -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:03:54QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 24 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He only used the middle finger. And I couldn't frigging find his video. It's idk how long ago since I last viewed. My busts are just hitting at the right moment. Not really hitting, just move. XD I fail at explaining.
bust mus hit at the rite moment...or move XD -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:05:00QUOTE (phua sy @ May 24 2009, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>bust mus hit at the rite moment...or move XD
50-50 -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:08:30QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 24 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>50-50
u really fail at explaining
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:09:32QUOTE (phua sy @ May 24 2009, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>u really fail at explaining
Like I said. -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:11:34QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 24 2009, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Like I said.
he only used to middle finger to hit the pen and make the pen go round his finger? -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:12:26QUOTE (phua sy @ May 24 2009, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>he only used to middle finger to hit the pen and make the pen go round his finger?
Yea. And if you don't mind that I give my opinion, I feel that it seriously looks fugly. -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:13:18QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 24 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yea. And if you don't mind that I give my opinion, I feel that it seriously looks fugly.
that's my way too, but i jus cannot change learning sumpinoykid way now -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:17:20QUOTE (phua sy @ May 24 2009, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>that's my way too, but i jus cannot change learning sumpinoykid way now
Lol. He's a great busting machine xD His method... what is it? -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:22:46
i suppose it is like spinnerpeem method + bnw method. looks like to me
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:28:39QUOTE (phua sy @ May 24 2009, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i suppose it is like spinnerpeem method + bnw method. looks like to me
Lol icic. Can't do busting today. Injured my index finger =.= Will watch his video some other time I think. I watched before actually, but his busting looks normal to me. Maybe I didn't look at it carefully. Anyway, thanks. ^^ -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:31:25QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 24 2009, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Lol icic. Can't do busting today. Injured my index finger =.= Will watch his video some other time I think. I watched before actually, but his busting looks normal to me. Maybe I didn't look at it carefully. Anyway, thanks. ^^
might be busting too much wif ur sharpener and put finger inside accidentally lol. and yup his bust is normal nt abnormal
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 10:53:19
peem doesn't have a "special" way, his way of busting is just slightly different, but he's practised it heaps.
ruin (KPSA) and ispark (THPSC) can do bust x 100+...their way of busting is significantly different from what most other spinners do. look carefully... -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 16:16:37
Ruin's (KPSA) way..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myzwdmlRXL4...re=channel_page -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 16:53:47
i dont really see how his busts are different, but that tuto helped me soo much
thanks for posting -
Date: Tue, May 26 2009 01:04:45
I did my first double bust on a long and heavy broomstick without the broom lol
Then I kinda know the feel for the "slide n' jerk" to start the next bust -
Date: Sat, May 30 2009 12:48:01
guys i have an advice, for doing multiple busts i prefer you use a signo tipped mx.. Or any single sided mod.. Start with the grip side of the mx (hgg with tip) then the weight of the backcap ( rsvp cap with rsvp grip) .. will help in performing multiple busts. Just try it out..
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Date: Sun, Jun 7 2009 13:22:21
how do some people do lots of busts?like 100+.Is there a secret behind?And are there like differnet ways of busting?etc:eso,spinnerpeem
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Date: Sun, Jun 7 2009 17:43:41QUOTE (phua sy @ Jun 7 2009, 06:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how do some people do lots of busts?like 100+.Is there a secret behind?And are there like differnet ways of busting?etc:eso,spinnerpeem
Eso can do 100+ busts? ._.
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Date: Sun, Jun 7 2009 19:39:13
The secret is, find a clean way to do double bust. Practise the last motion. BAM! 100+ busts for you.
Here is a short written tut:
1. Do TSB.
2. >.> This gonna be hard to explain w/o vid -
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 00:22:31
At the top of this page, vic posted a video of Ruin's method of doing busts, and as was already mentioned, this is the way a lot of people do 100+ busts. I'm sure there is another way, but the key is to get each bust to be a consistent motion. Another thing I notice from watching Ruin's vid is that his busts are a lot slower than other people's.
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Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 02:08:40QUOTE (Charlie @ Jun 8 2009, 01:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Eso can do 100+ busts? ._.
The secrets just a lot of practice.
i gt no idea.actually it is differnt questions lol.maybe i should leave a paragraph for each qn -
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 14:41:36QUOTE (vicgotgame @ May 25 2009, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ruin's (KPSA) way..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myzwdmlRXL4...re=channel_page
really helpful, got twisted sonic multiple bust in 1 day
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Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 10:59:11
also note how his finger movement is more circular than most. this is the way the pen hardly leaves finger, which reduces errors and improves consistency...
as opposed to most other spinners who move hand up and down more, rather than finger. xD
i tried doing this way, but i can't seem to get many with it ==" -
Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 12:52:46QUOTE (vicgotgame @ May 25 2009, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ruin's (KPSA) way..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myzwdmlRXL4...re=channel_page
this tutorial kinda work.i reached the rare 5 bust after watching his tutorial.
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Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 22:08:06
I'm trying to learn the trick with an MX because I don't want to be restricted to big heavy mods. I tried doing this (Ruin's way) and it seems much more suited to larger/heavier pens. Also IMO it doesn't look as nice as the "normal" way.
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Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 05:28:52QUOTE (Malch @ Jun 10 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm trying to learn the trick with an MX because I don't want to be restricted to big heavy mods. I tried doing this (Ruin's way) and it seems much more suited to larger/heavier pens. Also IMO it doesn't look as nice as the "normal" way.
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Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 14:28:07QUOTE (Malch @ Jun 10 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm trying to learn the trick with an MX because I don't want to be restricted to big heavy mods. I tried doing this (Ruin's way) and it seems much more suited to larger/heavier pens. Also IMO it doesn't look as nice as the "normal" way.
It works with a metallic comssa >.> IMO it's more consistant way, makes it easier to impress friends without the fear of dropping it as much XD
@phua there's more than one way to bust, some people use hand motions more, some people use finger motion more...
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Date: Mon, Oct 19 2009 23:12:06 i wanna bust like SEVEN but i can only do like 3 and they look terrible
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Date: Sun, Dec 13 2009 07:51:57
I just asked Spinnerpeem on MSN if he could PLLLLEEEEAAAASSSEE make a tutorial for multiple busts. He said it was a good idea so hopefully we'll soon see a tut from him
Newest vid of Peem... AMAZING: -
Date: Fri, Dec 18 2009 09:06:38
O.O how many was that? i lost count
i have a question~~~
when you do twisted sonic multiple bust, where do you feel the pen hitting your finger? top, bottom, side..., other fingers...? -
Date: Tue, Dec 22 2009 04:01:14QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Dec 18 2009, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>O.O how many was that? i lost count
i have a question~~~
when you do twisted sonic multiple bust, where do you feel the pen hitting your finger? top, bottom, side..., other fingers...?
the pen is almost always in contact w/ my finger except when i push my index finger forward, it kinda "jumps" from the pen
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Date: Tue, Dec 22 2009 04:08:21
for the RUIN bust tutorial .....that helped very little
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Date: Tue, Dec 22 2009 11:47:05QUOTE (blahblahting @ Dec 22 2009, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the pen is almost always in contact w/ my finger except when i push my index finger forward, it kinda "jumps" from the pen
so i guess everywhere but the front bottom part of the index finger
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Date: Sat, Dec 26 2009 01:59:06
I would SO love to know how to do multiple busts...
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Date: Sat, Dec 26 2009 02:24:25
There are many tutorial teaching you how to do X Busts, basically logically think about it first... as the bust is going around you need to push down again to keep it going again. try 2 first and increase as you get it down. If you still don't get it just do a little reasearch and you'll find quite a few video and written tutorials explaining specifically how some people explain it's done.
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Date: Sat, Dec 26 2009 04:01:07
so to do multiple you need to move your wrist and finger. i can do about 3 consistantly and 11 record. but i wanna know how to do 10ish like very time
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Date: Sat, Dec 26 2009 04:06:05
different styles do it in dif places on the finger
thai:the vry front
Korean/jap: bottom
from my knowledge there is certain way to achieve multiple
supawit: if you slow it down, he flick his wrist
peem: he rotates his index finger
me: i rotate my entire forearm, it gets me 5-6 busts constantly
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Date: Sat, Dec 26 2009 04:28:04
so theres many different styles that work and are effective for multiple busts? thanks
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Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 15:00:09
yes various styles will bust differently. like if you watch supawit and spinnerpeem, you will notice its further up on the finger. ive tried this and this is how i bust and the pen is slightly more "glued" to the finger than when you bust like a jap person(kuzu or seven) where its futher down and its harder(personally) and doesnt stay as close to the finger.
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Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 19:19:42
i can get two on occasion, but after my second bust the pen either travels slowly to finish or way too quickly so that i can't catch the bustx2 let alone set up a second one. any tips on keeping my bust speed consistent with that of the first bust?
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 08:03:34
I'm just going to do my style of fake multiple busts...sort of "Index Tornado":
FL IA 12-12 [p][0.5] ~ FL MA 23-23 [0.5][c] -> Pass Rev. 23-12...repeated continuously.
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 08:29:32QUOTE (Entity @ Dec 28 2009, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm just going to do my style of fake multiple busts...sort of "Index Tornado":
FL IA 12-12 [p][0.5] ~ FL MA 23-23 [0.5][c] -> Pass Rev. 23-12...repeated continuously.
It's also a pretty easy way to fake continuous baks! ^.^.^
continuous indexmiddlebackaround reverse. ill post a vid later -
Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 19:05:41QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Dec 28 2009, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>continuous indexmiddlebackaround reverse. ill post a vid later
Wait...isn't that:
FL IA 12-12 [p][0.5] ~ FL MA 23-23 [0.5][c]...continuously???
Like Tohlz's first combo in UPSB+PDS 1, but backwards?
Mine is:
FL IA 12-12 [p][0.5] ~ FL MA 23-23 [0.5][c] -> Pass Rev. 23-12...continuously.
The pen makes 1.5 revolutions in mine, 1.0 in indexmiddlebackaround reverse?
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 20:22:11
take the other fingers out of the equation. the imba rev goes around the middle finger entirely, to end up in 12 again, just as an indexpinkybackaround reverse would. the pass rev is part of the trick, but im pretty sure we're talking about the same thing. i used to have videos up but the upsb videos are gone so i can't upload it until i get my computer back
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 20:33:02QUOTE (RH @ Dec 26 2009, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>different styles do it in dif places on the finger
thai:the vry front
Korean/jap: bottom
from my knowledge there is certain way to achieve multiple
supawit: if you slow it down, he flick his wrist
peem: he rotates his index finger
me: i rotate my entire forearm, it gets me 5-6 busts constantly
its just practice with what you feel confurtable
Thats not completely true. Nory does them at the very front, and hes from Korea. Along with other Koreans.
No matter what you have to rotate your index finger, and Peem doesnt just rotate his index finger, he rotates his entire arm. Rotating your entire arm will result in slower busts. Supawit uses only his index finger and a slight wrist flick, thats why his busts are so much faster.
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Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 14:42:16QUOTE (vicgotgame @ Dec 28 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thats not completely true. Nory does them at the very front, and hes from Korea. Along with other Koreans.
No matter what you have to rotate your index finger, and Peem doesnt just rotate his index finger, he rotates his entire arm. Rotating your entire arm will result in slower busts. Supawit uses only his index finger and a slight wrist flick, thats why his busts are so much faster.
hm i guess maybe koreans do it up on their finger too i guess which means i was wrong. but that was just an example of where busts can occur but thanks for pointing out that vic
. well i guess now i know why my busts are so slow
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Date: Thu, Dec 31 2009 03:07:43
i've been practicing my bust x2, but it still feels unstable and inconsistent. i'm not exactly sure what the best way is to fix this, and i've looked at a few tutorials. any suggestions?
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Date: Thu, Dec 31 2009 03:38:33QUOTE (Iota @ Dec 30 2009, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i've been practicing my bust x2, but it still feels unstable and inconsistent. i'm not exactly sure what the best way is to fix this, and i've looked at a few tutorials. any suggestions?
more practice
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Date: Thu, Dec 31 2009 09:21:32QUOTE (Iota @ Dec 30 2009, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i've been practicing my bust x2, but it still feels unstable and inconsistent. i'm not exactly sure what the best way is to fix this, and i've looked at a few tutorials. any suggestions?
as vic says it needs more practice. everyones first 2x busts are unstable. eventually after some more it will be stable and to the point where you can do it easily. -
Date: Thu, Dec 31 2009 13:00:41QUOTE (RH @ Dec 26 2009, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>different styles do it in dif places on the finger
thai:the vry front
Korean/jap: bottom
from my knowledge there is certain way to achieve multiple
supawit: if you slow it down, he flick his wrist
peem: he rotates his index finger
me: i rotate my entire forearm, it gets me 5-6 busts constantly
its just practice with what you feel confurtable
How so you get it at the vry front?When i try, it just slowly go to the bottom.The pen is like glued to my fingers when the pen is near to the bottom.But i can do like 16 or above when it is at the bottom. -
Date: Thu, Dec 31 2009 13:57:22
I've always done my cont busts "strange" and they come of more sometimes, as cont arrounds palm down,
Sometimes after the third one my busts start being correct, aka fingerlesss. I was wondering if this is completley inccorrect to do busts this way. I think it stems from my learning of cont baks before the other cont tricks in which you rely on pen contact a lot more to bring the pen back a round.= \ -
Date: Thu, Dec 31 2009 15:01:31QUOTE (EssenceOfLife @ Dec 31 2009, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've always done my cont busts "strange" and they come of more sometimes, as cont arrounds palm down, Sometimes after the third one my busts start being correct, aka fingerlesss. I was wondering if this is completley inccorrect to do busts this way. I think it stems from my learning of cont baks before the other cont tricks in which you rely on pen contact a lot more to bring the pen back a round.= \
Lol "Shoebusts"
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Date: Fri, Jan 1 2010 02:31:05QUOTE (Phua.S.Y @ Dec 31 2009, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How so you get it at the vry front?When i try, it just slowly go to the bottom.The pen is like glued to my fingers when the pen is near to the bottom.But i can do like 16 or above when it is at the bottom.
i use to be like that, but now i bust near the top of my finger(because i wana be a thai styled spinner) what i found is that after the first bust, you pull your finger back a little and continue busting. for me, this causes the pen to stay near the front. -
Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 02:20:09
I can only do the twisted sonic bust only once, how do you do it continuously or like 2x?
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Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 02:24:03
Have you searched for tutorials on youtube?
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Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 02:40:08
yes, i looked on youtube, most of those tuts were in a different language and the other just showed slowmotion
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Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 03:38:38
Here are some tuts you may not have found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT4NAJG6awk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgUaJDyn_E
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Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 04:29:11
I can do around 2-3 busts. Is it better to leave the middle finger out to catch the pen and push it again (like in eso's tut) or is it better to leave it in and only use the index?
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Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 06:01:05
I find it that leaving your middle finger to support the pen is easier than not using the middle finger at all
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Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 06:30:22
HA! I'm not the only one
Yeah that's what I do to but everyone makes fun of me here for it probably because I learned from eso as well ( it was a few years while ago)
I'm pretty sure using your middle finger is improper for busts, and if you're just learning I wouldn't do it, as it is a large hindrance for me now having to relearn my busts (spent about 2 days so far and can sometimes get a normal double bust without middle finger support)... -
Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 01:32:41QUOTE (CDN-izedAZN @ Jan 4 2010, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I can do around 2-3 busts. Is it better to leave the middle finger out to catch the pen and push it again (like in eso's tut) or is it better to leave it in and only use the index?
the point of a bust is that is FL meaning no finger contacts it( other than the index because it has to spin around something). so its advised to leave the middle finger in and use only the index. -
Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 01:35:31
Firstly it's name is the twistedsonic bust secound it sounds like you have it right but it takes lots of practice my best is like 4 or 5
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Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 02:14:15QUOTE (unicorndog @ Jan 4 2010, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Firstly it's name is the twistedsonic bust secound it sounds like you have it right but it takes lots of practice my best is like 4 or 5
what?!!!!! essense's way isnt correct. the bust is FL meaning it goes around 1 finger only w/o any other fingers contact. 2. this is multiple bust discussion, but gratz on your 4-5 busts
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Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 03:29:06
Hey I just want to thank everyone that's contributed to this discussion because of me going to this topic I picked up some hints on this trick and am getting better at it now. =]
what's weird though is that I am getting the trick, but I feel all i am doing is jerking my hand upwards at a 45 degree angle towards me and its seems to be working...
i can get 2 and sometimes 3 but not very consistent with them =/ that's why we practice =] -
Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 03:51:25QUOTE (darkgoth678 @ Jan 5 2010, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey I just want to thank everyone that's contributed to this discussion because of me going to this topic I picked up some hints on this trick and am getting better at it now. =]
what's weird though is that I am getting the trick, but I feel all i am doing is jerking my hand upwards at a 45 degree angle towards me and its seems to be working...
i can get 2 and sometimes 3 but not very consistent with them =/ that's why we practice =]
At you? Usually it's jerking away from you but you could pull it toward you before "throwing" ur finger outward but idk. Btw somewhere in this threAd are examples of how I, supawit, and peem bust. That could help you.. But practice=more busts
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Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 11:22:59QUOTE (RH @ Jan 1 2010, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i use to be like that, but now i bust near the top of my finger(because i wana be a thai styled spinner) what i found is that after the first bust, you pull your finger back a little and continue busting. for me, this causes the pen to stay near the front.
By the way,when the pen is at the bottom,it hits my middle finger and i can't control that.But,that is the secret to my busting >_>
If you keep pulling in,wont your hand be like in a awkward position? .
I can't bust thai because of my middle finger.(No idea why)It hits and it just flys away. -
Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 19:16:26QUOTE (RH @ Jan 5 2010, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>At you? Usually it's jerking away from you but you could pull it toward you before "throwing" ur finger outward but idk. Btw somewhere in this threAd are examples of how I, supawit, and peem bust. That could help you.. But practice=more busts
Yeah I saw Eso's tutorial on it and i suppose his concept of giving the pen enough room to spin on kind of hit me. I imagine that I am actually pulling back and pushing forward with my finger but it feels I am just pushing back.
I also want to remember to loosen my wrist, I sometimes feel that when im bust my wrist and hand kind of become locked to each other. When I master this I think it will give it that touch of finesse -
Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 20:55:50
real quick question i can do mulitple bust 3 or 4 every time but i bust at bottem of finger. Is this uglier or not as good as tip of finger? and any tips of how to keep pen on tip of finger. other than jerking your hand back?
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Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 21:01:23QUOTE (Kirby @ Jan 6 2010, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>real quick question i can do mulitple bust 3 or 4 every time but i bust at bottem of finger. Is this uglier or not as good as tip of finger? and any tips of how to keep pen on tip of finger. other than jerking your hand back?
Just do what's natural, Don't force yourself into a new style. -
Date: Thu, Jan 7 2010 02:47:46QUOTE (Nation @ Jan 6 2010, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just do what's natural, Don't force yourself into a new style.
this totally goes against the +1 rule but. +1, i forced myself from doing jap busts( down on the finger[i was use to it when i learned]) to thai(up on the finger[my want to be style]) at first you will be screwed but after like a week of practice they were normal and i now bust semi thai i guess :/ -
Date: Thu, Jan 7 2010 02:52:01
So now is it easier for you to Thai bust or Jap bust? and again do you have any other tips other then practice and "jump" your hand back a little bit?
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Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 00:23:22QUOTE (Kirby @ Jan 6 2010, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So now is it easier for you to Thai bust or Jap bust? and again do you have any other tips other then practice and "jump" your hand back a little bit?
for me its easier to thai bust. but just do what feels confortable. i feel jap busts are the most confortable(down on the finger) and also the jumping is for thai busts and korean busts. only. you just need to find your own way to make your busts confortable and continous(everyone has their own secret) -
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 00:31:16
So I got normal busts down
consistency is crap though and If I dont think normal busts I do my old ones.
I think it really just helps to visualize what you're actually doing and timing is everything =]. -
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 01:48:57
there's 'thai' style and 'japanese' style busts now? O__O' too generalised...
Nz from THPSC does bust x 160 ish japanese style then =="
either style of bust, it's easier to do more if you slow down slightly to increase control and calm down~
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Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 01:51:56
no theres thai, korean, and jap i believe. plus its mostly just practice i believe and finding a way to bust so that you get more, fits your style, and feels confortable( this will vary for everyone). and ISAE, everyone busts at different speeds.
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Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 02:31:16QUOTE (RH @ Jan 7 2010, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no theres thai, korean, and jap i believe. plus its mostly just practice i believe and finding a way to bust so that you get more, fits your style, and feels confortable( this will vary for everyone). and ISAE, everyone busts at different speeds.
Some thai spinners have korean style, some japs have thai style, some koreans have thai style... really you cant group styles together if not all of one community does it one way.
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Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 04:40:38
I've found that when I go for >2 busts, the pen slants at an angle from my finger, not perpendicular but more like -/-... Is it optimal to bust like this, or should I focus on making the pen perpendicular to my finger more like -|-?
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Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 05:25:49
I think it also has a lot to do with finger/ hand shape as well...
you want a nice / for busts Having just relearned busts Not only does this help with other hybrids it also helps with mult busts =]. -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 01:04:32
After my first bust , i usually catch the pen/pencil and it always land in the end of the pen/pencil?
Any tut on double bust? any help will help ty, -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 01:07:23
just use youtube. personal i use Xero's tut or Ruin(KPSA)'s tut, but its all practice
next time please use the twisted sonic multiple bust thread already made -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 03:21:16QUOTE (RH @ Jan 21 2010, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just use youtube. personal i use Xero's tut or Ruin(KPSA)'s tut, but its all practice
next time please use the twisted sonic multiple bust thread already made
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Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 03:25:44QUOTE (Kirby @ Jan 21 2010, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Isn't this in the twisted sonic multiple bust thread??
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Date: Mon, Jan 25 2010 21:41:13
I have a question and maybe a new hybrid trick.
So I can do multiple busts but latly Ive tried A double rotation single bust. Basically the pen does 1.0 spin on top of my index finger then it goes around and I catch. Its a total of 2.0 rotations with only going around the finger once (even though you can spin it on top of index finger for as many rotations as you want.) Its almost like bust interrupted half way through by a shadow but it just spins on the index finger. If this has already been invented waht is the notation. And sorry if this is unclear.
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Date: Mon, Jan 25 2010 21:54:27QUOTE (Kirby @ Jan 25 2010, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a question and maybe a new hybrid trick.
So I can do multiple busts but latly Ive tried A double rotation single bust. Basically the pen does 1.0 spin on top of my index finger then it goes around and I catch. Its a total of 2.0 rotations with only going around the finger once (even though you can spin it on top of index finger for as many rotations as you want.) Its almost like bust interrupted half way through by a shadow but it just spins on the index finger. If this has already been invented waht is the notation. And sorry if this is unclear.
P.S I have no camera to take a video of it.
It's called Bust 2.0. Nothing New.
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Date: Fri, Feb 12 2010 00:39:30
Hello all!!
Today i wanted to show you my first tutorial, did with my vision of penspinning, with black background and good light/camera.
I wanted to have some opinion about this video. I would like to do other tutorial, but can you tell me what is good in my video? what is bad?
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Date: Mon, Mar 1 2010 23:32:37
This trick is annoying me to no end, I get the concept and ive seen all the tutorials but when i go and move my hand up my hand pushes the pen and the pen goes flying out usually at my face. Any help to make the pen wrap around my finer and not be pushed by it
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Date: Sat, Mar 13 2010 13:21:45QUOTE (Poseidon @ Mar 2 2010, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This trick is annoying me to no end, I get the concept and ive seen all the tutorials but when i go and move my hand up my hand pushes the pen and the pen goes flying out usually at my face. Any help to make the pen wrap around my finger and not be pushed by it
wait till all the momentum is at your right hand side of your index after the bust, then gently tilt your finger a little diagonally-right upwards (no exageratting movement) so it should'nt be flying in you face , all i can say to keep track of your pen and you finger is to keep it slow really :\
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Date: Sat, Mar 20 2010 12:50:27
stupid question...probably answered but too lazy to check prev. pages..
who was the 1st spinner who did multiple busts?(video recorded) -
Date: Sat, Mar 20 2010 19:01:35QUOTE (NEPTUNE @ Feb 11 2010, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello all!!
Today i wanted to show you my first tutorial, did with my vision of penspinning, with black background and good light/camera.
I wanted to have some opinion about this video. I would like to do other tutorial, but can you tell me what is good in my video? what is bad?
thanks a lot for your attention.
Spoiler:
looks like u did hours of editing =0 -
Date: Sat, Apr 10 2010 16:52:46
twist sonic multiple bust is sooooooo hard >:|
i cant do more than 1
i can do 1 bust everyday...
but MORE? impossible
my record is 2-3.....i almost caught a 4 before...it wont go countinous for me... i dont get it
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Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 04:34:01
ugh still trying to do triple bust the most i can do is double
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Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 09:51:52
Just wondering, but is it easier to perform multiple busts with a pen that has the COG at the COP or a one-sided mod like RSVP MX which is back heavy?
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Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 10:29:09
you know KosPak..it still depends on what you are used to spin, but for me Its easier with a balance DC
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Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 21:33:31QUOTE (KosPak @ Apr 16 2010, 04:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just wondering, but is it easier to perform multiple busts with a pen that has the COG at the COP or a one-sided mod like RSVP MX which is back heavy?
Definently a COG=COP mod (double sided). One sided mods momentum is rarely perfectly even making it alot harder to do multiple busts. -
Date: Wed, May 19 2010 00:53:15
im not sure if this is simple or advanced so sry if im wrong, but im having trouble with even 2 busts. I'm not exactly sure when to go for the second bust and im also not exactly sure what kind of motion to use. When i do get it i can never catch it and ive been sitting here practicing for over six weeks now...help me...please.
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Date: Wed, May 19 2010 01:57:03
One, this is an advanced trick so ur good there.
Two, there are already like a bajillion threads on this, but this http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=4142 is where you should have posted, but w/e I'm not a mod.
Three, I give the push for the second bust by pushing down (assuming ur doing it palmdown) right when I would have caught it for one bust. You kinda have to slide the finger ur pushing with up to the end of the pen before the push to get it to rotate around ur finger again. As for the catch, if you get push right it should fall into place and u just have to close ur fingers, so focus on getting the push right...I hope that made sense.
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Date: Wed, May 19 2010 21:37:14
k so uhm i'm close to mastering double bust. I'm just wondering though. Should i use a light pen or heavy pen to master it?
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Date: Wed, May 19 2010 22:14:44QUOTE (miyat @ May 19 2010, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>k so uhm i'm close to mastering double bust. I'm just wondering though. Should i use a light pen or heavy pen to master it?
It would be easier with a heavy pen. -
Date: Sun, May 23 2010 20:45:18
i can do 4 busts^.^
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Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 00:33:33QUOTE (XxmikeskittlesxX @ May 23 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can do 4 busts^.^
can only do one