UPSB v3
Fundamental Tricks / How many times did you fail miserably at a sonic?
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Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 17:08:01
How many times did you fail miserably at a sonic, before being able to spin one consistently?
I mainly just want to know, 'cause I'm a noob, and I've been working the trick. Unfortunately, (Although I have the basis of the trick-- Let go of the thumb, down in the middle finger, and touch the index to the ring finger.) I consistently drop it, and barely ever finish it well... -
Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 17:12:11
uhh
nobody counts their failed attempts
it varies greatly between persons...
so this measure won't help you much. -
Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 17:29:10
I don't know how many times I failed the sonic first time, but lets just say that it took me two full days before actually realizing how a sonic worked.
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Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 17:48:23
Oh no! I phailed doing a sonic!!!
No big deal failing at certain tricks while you are learning, that's how I feel. -
Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 18:10:24
well. a lot'sa times but thats how we learn right? inhale exhale........
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Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 19:39:06
Woot! Finally got it!
I was doing everything right, but I realized that the pen I was using was much too thick! -
Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 00:35:49
I never drop them ever. One of the easiest tricks so most people don't drop them.
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Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 02:17:32
Thrasher: get out.
Nobody cares that you can never drop fundamentals. -
Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 02:57:26
i lost count around 50
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Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 04:16:58
Aw, it's no fun to count how many times you do something bad! Count good things like... how many times in a row you don't break something!
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Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 05:02:42QUOTE (11Thrasher11 @ Feb 24 2008, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I never drop them ever. One of the easiest tricks so most people don't drop them.
you obviously misread
he said how many times you failed before you got your first sonic right.
don't tell me you got sonic on your first try EVER in life. -
Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 08:14:24
I tried sonic lots of times before giving it up. After that, I concentrated just in the Thumbaround. One night, I focused back on the sonic, tried to get it down, but I didn't know how it actually worked. XD. Watched a couple videos, in slow motion, saw the "mechanism" XD, failed miserably again, XD, helped myself with the other hand, and then did my first sonic. xD.
So yeah, I've dropped it.. a lot of times. XD. Lots. xD. -
Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 07:35:59
I never failed
by pure chance i was trying to do some other trick when i was starting out, i did a sonic.
It looked cool so i went online to find out what it was called,
i just repeated what i did the first time and perfect sonic.
Go me !
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Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 00:24:22
first time i tried sonic i did it correctly^^
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Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 02:31:57
Never.
Well when I learned obviously. -
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 13:17:48
3164 times before I made my first ten in a row. I think 15 or 16 of them actually landed more than 1 metre away from me.
Another 8934 times before I got my first hundred in a row. -
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 21:49:10
Who counts? I know it required alot of practice from myself to do it right, and I do remember a couple of times when the pen went flying at least 5 meters.
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Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 22:15:47QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 1 2008, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>3164 times before I made my first ten in a row. I think 15 or 16 of them actually landed more than 1 metre away from me.
Another 8934 times before I got my first hundred in a row.
Ahh there is nothing like the sound of an RSVP flying across a classroom and hitting someone in the face.
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Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 03:54:10
3rd trick i ever learned. took forever to master (failed like what 50+times?)
but once you get it down you should be able to do sonic 10/10 -
Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 13:13:46
hm... I spent about 10 days to learn and then suddenly a very good friend showed me through cam and then I could it right away >_<
But within the 10 days I dropped the pen many times and I did not count because I concentrated on succeed, not failure XD
Good luck with your sonic XD *cross finger* -
Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 15:28:52
took me likea few hundred tries took me around 2 weeks
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Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 19:25:55
Sonic was the hardest trick ever for me, but I finally did it. I just failed like 1000 times, thought I had it, then failed 1000 more times.
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 21:17:44
all day. once a second. thirty seconds of a minute. 45 minutes of an hour. do the math. :]
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 02:47:33
I drum, so i would try learning drum stick twirls. one of them that i learned was the Thomas Lang twirl which ended up being a twisted sonic so even before i started pen spinning i knew twisted sonic. so then, it just took me a day to get sonic after i perfected twisted sonic on a pen. but now my dilema is learning sonic clip... its freakin hard...
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 14:42:52
I'm a noob spinner. I got it down in about 5 hours or so....but I failed...I would say....around 100 times?
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 15:12:30
it changes alot from one person to another.
it took me about 2 days to MASTER sonic [10/10]
but for eg...i heard about ppl who learned DEMONS SONIC in 10 secs...
while i just dont get it :\ -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 19:44:50
i think i failed about 50 times..
it was pretty hard to do it smooth, maily because i cant do the charge -
Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 10:26:12
I failed so much it was unbelievable, then it suddenly worked for me.
Turned out that you just had to position your fingers, build up pressure and let the pen spin over between your index and middle fingers. -
Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 03:06:05
I never failed, the sonic is so easy that if you can't get it on your first try you should just give up.
NOT REALLY...
Sonic really isn't a hard trick, it just takes a little bit of understanding I learned how to do a sonic on my toliet I didn't get exactly what the sonic was andhow the pen moved from one finger to the other.
I recommend watching lots of videos and practicing till your fingers hurt and you feel like crying. -
Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 12:02:24
soooo many times. It took me ages to get the mechanism behind it. I've only just got it so I still drop it quite a bit.
I dropped my pen in the sink at my table in the science labs today while trying to do it like 4 times in the space of 10 mins
ppl were like ->
lol -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 23:16:23QUOTE (Chummy @ Mar 18 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>soooo many times. It took me ages to get the mechanism behind it. I've only just got it so I still drop it quite a bit.
I dropped my pen in the sink at my table in the science labs today while trying to do it like 4 times in the space of 10 mins
ppl were like ->
lol
lol!... people who saw me ps and when I drop they also pointed and laughed at me... omg I nearly lost my hope of trying, but instead I told them if they at least could do better. They say of course "no"... lol... but then I only practice when no one around or when I am alone with my sisters. -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 23:24:40
Sonic wasn't too hard for me...i dropped about 50 times or so....
but that's cause i learned the charge first....it really helps
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 03:03:07
ill say close to 100 times, after a while...BAM! i got it
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 17:32:23
Took me the time I was in school, not counting lunch and break.
Charge is harder than Sonic D:, I taught myself Reverse Charge in 3rd Grade; so it's hard for me to do regular.
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 14:17:32
1000??i learn thruout the whole day...
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 15:57:31
yeah... leik 4
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 19:30:13
probably... 100 times? I did it occasionally throughout 2 school days
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 20:16:32
i dont sit on a table and practice...well, not back then. i just causally practiced in school when i wuz bored. it took my like 3 days. i would say 50-70.
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Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 01:42:13
A few days to get it to a workable state (a few hundred fails).
I can sonic, yet I cant charge worth crud though... -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 05:18:51
having no one to teach me, it took me a day to figure out how it worked.;.. but then that was b4 i joined ucpsb and was trying to learn off kam's vids
but as soon as i got it, it just... flowed -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 08:36:12
Too many to count!
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Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 11:33:10
>_> i suck ....i cant do it right ...i tried for about 1whole day >_> theres one time where i was sitting infrount of my friend trying it while my friend was eatting and he was laughing at me and i "accidentely" droped my pen on to the noodles that he was eating >_> so i give up on sonic and change to infinity ...but while at midnight about 2am i was trying it out and i GOT IT
i suck so much >_> -
Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 11:32:14
sometimes when i almost sleeping lol =)
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Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 15:04:19
I thought it would be hard to learn at first, so I didnt try it. I learned charge years ago... so I nearly mastered finger pass and learned thumb around before I tried to learn sonic. Finally, yesterday, I was bored so I thought I'd try it. In about 5-10 minutes, I was able to get sonic about 3/10 times. Throughout the day I practiced. Now, I can get it about 9/10.
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Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 23:00:53
Yeah, it took me a while to learn how the pen movement actually works. A good tip: try and keep your 1 and 3 fingers together. It helps.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 01:56:07
Yea i learned it first palm down because to me it was easier, but thats just me.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 02:43:29
i tried for an entire day n was getting really mad
then i just acidently did it once n then slowly got it after that -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 02:47:48QUOTE (kspin @ Apr 25 2008, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i tried for an entire day n was getting really mad
then i just acidently did it once n then slowly got it after that
XD same...the stupid pen would stupidly fly out and hit the wall and s tuff...
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 03:50:05
Never I learned simutaniously =]. Just watch a tutorial like 1/2 of it and figured to do the rest xD
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 14:19:12
never, i lerned it smothly.
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 20:18:43
imo sonic easiest trick there is. Easier than charge/ta. So i suppose i failed the first 5 times lol
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Date: Sun, May 4 2008 22:55:54
hah well it took me about 2 hours i suppose practicing the whole 2 hours
i still drop the pen occasionally when i do sonics, though i still even drop the pen when i ta every now and then xD -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 03:31:48QUOTE (Ryuukohaden @ Feb 24 2008, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thrasher: get out.
Nobody cares that you can never drop fundamentals.
Really late reply here but wasn't his question how many times you drop them? I never do anymore so I am just answering his question. -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 22:58:26
got it the first time i tried, but took me an hour of dropping to get it again.
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Date: Mon, May 5 2008 23:25:02
personally i think the only thing thats harder about learning sonic is understanding its motion and where it actually goes. once i figured that out, i used my knowledge of ding charge for 5 yrs to do it really easily.
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Date: Tue, May 6 2008 04:56:57
lol too many to count
. it was still confusing how the whole thing worked, because it took me 2-3 hours (class time ) straight just to get that, then i got it in 1-2 hours after that. to master, that is a different story 
so basically it took a couple hours before i learned it -
Date: Tue, May 6 2008 20:46:45
mmmmhhhhhh, if I try with a MX, left hand, palm down, I usually fail the sonic 34-23.
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Date: Thu, May 8 2008 00:34:48
i actually learned the sonic in like 20min kinda weird but i still cant learn the damn thumbaround.
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Date: Mon, May 12 2008 09:45:35
When I first tried to learn it I kept phailing, so I gave up. Then one or two weeks later I actually tried to figure out how it works, and then pretty much was a 100% success rate afterwards. Too bad it doesn't work like that for me and other pen tricks
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Date: Mon, May 12 2008 23:56:33
too many to count
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Date: Tue, May 13 2008 00:29:57
so hard to teach other people how to do sonic. they keep doing this weird pass thing...
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Date: Tue, May 13 2008 03:05:20
My friends taught me. Take 2 days to know how sonic works, before that I thought pass 23-12 is sonic.
Teach sonic to the very newbies is hard, they usually do pass before they can do sonic, I'm a bit surprised. -
Date: Tue, May 13 2008 04:27:14QUOTE (tgknight @ May 12 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My friends taught me. Take 2 days to know how sonic works, before that I thought pass 23-12 is sonic.
Teach sonic to the very newbies is hard, they usually do pass before they can do sonic, I'm a bit surprised.
sonic was the second trick i learned (and my first trick that got me into ps). i found this tut on how to do sonic and i learned rite away, i wonder if it would be breaking copyright laws if i posted it on wiki...mabe if i sited the source? -
Date: Thu, May 22 2008 06:29:08
Odd as this sounds, I got it the first time I tried, after watching a tut. I've never been able to do it again since.
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Date: Sun, Jun 1 2008 18:55:35QUOTE (SilentFalcon @ Feb 24 2008, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How many times did you fail miserably at a sonic, before being able to spin one consistently?
I mainly just want to know, 'cause I'm a noob, and I've been working the trick. Unfortunately, (Although I have the basis of the trick-- Let go of the thumb, down in the middle finger, and touch the index to the ring finger.) I consistently drop it, and barely ever finish it well...
Lets put it this way, one too many times. -
Date: Sun, Jun 1 2008 19:15:30
Ohhh whoops I thought this topic was how many times do you fail miserably at sonic not how many times did you fail miserably at sonic. I'd say I dropped it 50 times before I did it once.
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 22:10:48
I can't even count how many times XD
I had if for a while there, but now I'm just doing 23-12 pass that starts and ends the same way sonic does -.- -
Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 20:26:55
Yo could someone can tell me how this (censored insults) thread has survived to now?
Unusefull. Yo there is the thread about how much time you took to master fundamentals, too... -
Date: Tue, Jun 10 2008 12:34:12
second try i did it, i rarely fail at this trick
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Date: Sun, Jun 15 2008 03:18:19
umm about a day?
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Date: Sat, Jun 21 2008 04:06:38
just got it probally like a thousand because i just got it but i can only consistantly do 3 in a row record is 6 so i guess the count is still going up
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Date: Sat, Jun 21 2008 05:40:05
took me about 5 days for sonik, consistently. i can do about a million without messin' up now.
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Date: Sat, Jun 21 2008 08:21:11
back in middle school my friend tried to teach me and it took me a good month to get one
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Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 07:12:49
I failed around 50 ish times at sonic.
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Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 11:15:06
I failed for a total of 4 months...haha..I suck
I remember that 4th month when I was able to do it. -
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 21:55:37
i still gotta work on sonic reverse
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 01:30:29
Take it easy , when I didn't haveInternet in my home , I do only sonic combo for 3 year . Be patient , you don't need to do many trick now , just master it first .
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 13:57:42
If you're counting your failed attempts, you need to do A LOT more. Once you cant count the failed attemts anymore, you will get the hang of it.
I learned how to do the sonic after watching a youtube video of some german kid explaining how to touch your index finger to your ring finger above and below the middle finger. I had no idea what he was saying, but it helped me out a lot.
Basically, you can do it really easy by holding the pen between the 23 slot, then lower your middle finger down, and your index and ring fingers up, touching the tips of those two fingers together. The pen should easily spin up and around the middle finger. It takes absolutely no force and is just a matter of finger placement. -
Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 19:12:42
Hey everybody, this is not serious... How an unsusefull thread like this survived to now, and worse, how can i have 4 PAGES? What the hell, man, at least it should be merged in the off topic, of the spammer's bin, goddam, there is already a thread like this, hom many time to master the fundamentals, which is already enough unsusefull, if you want to spam there is an section for it.
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 00:05:22 It took me only one day to learn sonic
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 02:51:11
I tried for like half an hour before i got it. An hour for it to be smooth.
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 03:08:28
to many to count
took me bout a day - day and a half -
Date: Wed, Jul 9 2008 10:37:19
Probably over 500 or so.
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Date: Wed, Jul 9 2008 16:23:07
This was the only trick i got on my 1st try..
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Date: Thu, Jul 10 2008 05:51:12
Finally got one sonic down without using the thumb
took a grand total of 6 months
but reverse sonic took only 1 week into pen spinning -
Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 05:46:38
I didn't keep count.
Besides, I like to think of progress, not failure. It keeps me motivated.
It's not the end of the world if I drop a sonic, after all.
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Date: Tue, Jul 15 2008 01:42:47
It took me around 5 mins to get one and about 2 hours to get it more than once in a row. It still isn't that smooth.
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Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 20:25:02
I never really dropped it that much
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There was this one time where I was sitting in class and I did the sonic and it went flying right past my teacher... not a good thing... He then turned to me and asked if I was trying to hit him; i told him that I was trying to hit him (even though i wasnt) but he is a cool teacher so he didnt mind... -
Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 01:52:33QUOTE (KarBea @ Jul 20 2008, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I never really dropped it that much ...
There was this one time where I was sitting in class and I did the sonic and it went flying right past my teacher... not a good thing... He then turned to me and asked if I was trying to hit him; i told him that I was trying to hit him (even though i wasnt) but he is a cool teacher so he didnt mind...
lol nice,
when i first learned it, it used to fly out of my hands. hit a couple people too... -
Date: Tue, Jul 22 2008 03:25:16
If I had a penny for everytime I dropped a Sonic, I would be as rich as Bill Gates. Figuratively.
I even drop it when I learned how it goes. It's simple, but so hard to do. It's easy for some of us, and its pretty hard for most of us.
Still, don't give up. I found out how to do it when I was bored in school. I just spun it, did a sonic, and was amazed at how it looked!
I never stop doing sonics now. -
Date: Tue, Jul 22 2008 16:25:32
I don't understand how you can make a sonic fly across the room, unless you do Sonic Release or something... Shouldn't it just drop?
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 00:05:44QUOTE (NaDa @ Jul 22 2008, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't understand how you can make a sonic fly across the room, unless you do Sonic Release or something... Shouldn't it just drop?
hmm
i guess it can fly(?) if you give a strong snap -
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 00:20:30
yea its possible, when i first learned sonic it used to fly out of my hands all the time.
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Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 01:22:24QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Jul 20 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol nice,
when i first learned it, it used to fly out of my hands. hit a couple people too...
Its no fun if you don't hit someone once on a while with a pen -
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 01:33:03
Yea sonics make pens fly well
My bro does his and it flies a good 20ft T.T haha -
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 18:09:40QUOTE (wtf@cody @ Jul 30 2008, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yea sonics make pens fly well My bro does his and it flies a good 20ft T.T haha
Wow! I can't get it to go that far even if I tried... -
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 21:15:40
Think positive and say to yourself that you can do it. Knowing the negative will only make it harder.
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Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 03:55:46
i don't know, for the sonic (which I just learned today haha) it took me like half an hour to 45 minutes (not perfect, mind you), which is a lot less time than it took for me to learn the thumbaround. (half the time i didn't get how it was supposed to be done haha)
for me, I sort of can't really think about what I'm doing, or else I mess up. -__-"
the little things (the move index and ring finger closer together one really really helps haha) just make it a lot easier. -
Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 06:20:47
it was funny, took me a week to realize that the pen went behind the finger between the ring and index cuz i didn't watch eso's videos
after my friend told me, took me about 1 day to learn it, now i can do it smoothly nearly with all fingers 
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Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 19:10:34
Well it took me awhile to realize the motion, and then it took me probably 1/2 day of punishing to the pen to get it down. XD But that's out of the way. I'm on to fake double > bak rev now.
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Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 21:18:06
i failed twice at sonic, just practice i guess, people learn at a different pace
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Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 09:34:30
Patte explained to me how to do it and I accidentally did it right the third try.
Only to fail the next few hundred or so.
I do seem to get that a lot. Do it right by accident almost immediately, then not being able to do it again.
However I can do sonic fairly easily now, I still suck badly at anything else. -
Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 08:03:29
not many....took me twenty minutesish to learn...had an actual person there teaching me, it helps
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Date: Fri, Aug 8 2008 06:10:12
it took me bout 1 and a half days (hey it was my very first trick lol) to do it not accidentally,and about 30 min to make it smooth
now its pretty much mastered for me -
Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 22:45:28
is there any like tip i should say that someone call tell me that i may be doing wrong, that everyone does wronggg
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Date: Tue, Aug 12 2008 03:07:02
keep your index parallel with your ring.
i couldnt do the sonic for 2 months. i counted the drops actually. 251. lol. that was in like 45 minutes. but it was becuz my index was always unparallel with my ring. just get tha parallel thing down and you should be fine -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 05:02:58QUOTE (ryzaku @ Aug 11 2008, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>keep your index parallel with your ring.
i couldnt do the sonic for 2 months. i counted the drops actually. 251. lol. that was in like 45 minutes. but it was becuz my index was always unparallel with my ring. just get tha parallel thing down and you should be fine
thanks man! -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:42:20
at first i completely failed at sonic because it did not understand how it worked.
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Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 01:57:37
OMG I FINALLY GOT IT
thanks for the tips =)
im soo happy
plus its with a pencil so when i get my new R.S.V.P MX itll be a lot cleaner -
Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 16:07:58
Maybe thousand time. First I don't understand how to do it. But couple weeks backwards I did it, thanks to esos tutorial.
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Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 18:32:31
um i think i failed like 20~ times
(this may seem weird but i started 4 or 5 days ago + im very close to mastering sonic and sonic rise ) and hi -
Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 21:52:47
1 million times... trying it all day at school. I knew how it worked by I was just the suck, got it after about 3 days
Feels like breathing now... -
Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 04:20:04
I learned the sonic pretty quick with the pressure method.
But when i tried to learn the non-pressure method, I messed up quite a bit. -
Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 00:15:45
i still can't sonic. it might help if i understood how it worked, but no one has ever made a tutorial lasting more than an hour.....
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Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 00:34:28QUOTE (BeckWreck @ Sep 30 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i still can't sonic. it might help if i understood how it worked, but no one has ever made a tutorial lasting more than an hour.....
Ask for help here:
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=2117
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Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 02:53:50
When I started i thought it was like a half charge that flips up to 12 by moving ur middle finger in LOL then i watched eso's video and i tried for like 4 hours and got it! -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 10:31:49
Probably 30+ times before I understood how the pen moved and how to properly bend the middle finger instantaneously.
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Date: Fri, Oct 10 2008 01:22:07
well....probably for abt 10-20 tries...then i start to succeed...maybe cuz i watched the tutorial the night b4 and tried the next day and succeeded within 30mins
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Date: Fri, Oct 10 2008 01:28:50
Alot.
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Date: Fri, Oct 10 2008 05:47:02QUOTE (Jenny @ Aug 1 2008, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i don't know, for the sonic (which I just learned today haha) it took me like half an hour to 45 minutes (not perfect, mind you), which is a lot less time than it took for me to learn the thumbaround. (half the time i didn't get how it was supposed to be done haha)
for me, I sort of can't really think about what I'm doing, or else I mess up. -__-"
the little things (the move index and ring finger closer together one really really helps haha) just make it a lot easier.
Everyone usually finds it that way because tricks like sonic are almost always attached to you fingers whereas ThumbAround is released.
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 00:26:45
i rarely fail when doing the thumb pressure method but I almost always fail when doing the charge method.
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 00:28:00
just keep practising the charge way
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 07:19:41
You could consider sonics and all other fundamentals/combos/whatevers to be like taking your first steps. You have to crawl (get the basic movements) before you can walk (be able to do the trick but very shakily) before you can run (do the trick on a very regular basis) before you can sprint (do the trick very smoothly and fluently without putting any real thought to what it is you're doing).
Man that philosophy was right off my head... In penspinning terms that is. Would've helped when I was learning the sonic. I'm up to the jogging stage I guess... -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 11:49:26
I surprisingly didn't fail much. It just came to me. But now when i try do a charge, i do a sonic.
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Date: Mon, Oct 20 2008 01:32:05
you should be counting how long until u could do it, counting failed attempts is... depressing.
Anyways, pressure method took me an hour, dropped it alot, and normal method 2 hours, i must have dropped the pen more then 2000 times... -
Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 06:41:40
Like 5 times in total
Sonic is pretty much one of the easiest moves IMHO -
Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 21:17:15
It took me over a year with the pressure method...and I still didn't learn it. I didn't learn how to do the Sonic until I started using the "move" method that the old UPSB tutorial recommends.
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Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 11:33:52
Pressure method took me about 3h, but the charge way took me much longer(about 10h).
I'd prefer to first learn sonic (pressure metdod) then charge and after that you should try sonic with charge way. -
Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 14:30:21
I think if you learn TW first Sonic is harder to learn, and the other way around..
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Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 04:25:24
Sonic is a trick where for some people, it only takes a few minutes for them to learn, but for others like me, I had to work on it for hours on end.
Basically, this fundamental trick illustrates the idea of transferring the pen between fingers with the charge motion. Once you master it, you can do it 100% of the time, and you will wonder why it took so long to learn it. -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 07:15:34
O i practiced and failed at it during my winter break
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Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 14:23:01
i think it only took me 10 tries o.0
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Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 16:07:29
less than 5 times
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Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 19:23:33
I learned it pretty quick after watching tuts
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Date: Mon, Dec 8 2008 04:28:01
I learned sonic in 3 days.
First day I taped my index&middle finger together to learn how to spin from the start and make the right track.
Second day I lose the tape and started to try catch the pen.
Third day I finally catched it and from that day I can catch 95% of my sonics. -
Date: Mon, Dec 8 2008 15:00:25
I learned Sonic Rise (34-23-12) in a month.
Sonic Fall (12-23-34) took me another month.
Used the pressure method at first. -
Date: Mon, Dec 8 2008 15:52:11
i never knew the pressure method existed until i mastered the sonic =.=
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Date: Mon, Dec 8 2008 18:40:53
i just tried the pressure method, did it a few times, *just randomly did it in school*
now i cant seem to see wut i did -
Date: Mon, Dec 8 2008 18:52:37
a lot of time.....i actually learnt charge while attempting to do this trick...its still looks a bit choopy but better than it was
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Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 03:58:34
it took me 2 days of practicing to get the pressure method down so yah
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Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 10:46:27
mine was teaached by a friend..failed more than 20 tries..
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Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 01:10:57QUOTE (SilentFalcon @ Feb 24 2008, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How many times did you fail miserably at a sonic, before being able to spin one consistently?
I mainly just want to know, 'cause I'm a noob, and I've been working the trick. Unfortunately, (Although I have the basis of the trick-- Let go of the thumb, down in the middle finger, and touch the index to the ring finger.) I consistently drop it, and barely ever finish it well...
I have the same problem. I'm still working on doing it consistently at super-slomo speed. One thing I can say is that I don't think I could have ever learned this trick without learning the Charge first. -
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 04:45:47
thumb around hundreds and hundreds...
sonic tho was like 4 XD
i was like wowwwwwwwwwwwww and then reverse annoyed me
>.> but that was so nice =D -
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 04:46:34
prolly a good 100 times
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Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 05:01:21
I dropped prolly like 20-40 times
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 00:32:24
i just started pen spinning like 2 months ago but i already knew ta, rev ta, and sonic cuz i just picked it up while telemarketing back in the day, didnt know they had names or anything
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 07:42:07
Lol i failed to do Sonic like 70 to 80 times but at the end of the day just before I went to bed I nailed it...
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 07:52:28
i actually learned the sonic really quickly but i like watched ever tutorial on the sonic so i could get like every possible explaination on how to do it then i attempted the sonic... i failed it like 3 times only though XD
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 12:16:48
Sonic, Sonic rise and reverses 100% pwned with charge start.
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Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 00:56:09
failed at it more times than i had to. meaning that when i watched the tutorial in different views, angles, explanations, i got it right away. best to be taught in person though. sonic reverse? hmmm... took forever. probly cuz i never bothered to practice reverse charge... that, and my middle finger is retarded. =/
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Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 03:06:26
I don't know if it really effects it or not but do u need to learn charge reverse to do sonic reverse cause i cannot do charge reverse (left-handed)
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Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 05:19:15
about 50 or 60 times for me D:
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Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 01:54:24
When I first learned sonic, I needed so much pressure that sometimes the pen would fly out of my hand really fast and hit something.
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Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 11:03:51
2-300x???
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Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 18:17:00
I never fail at it o.o? but i fail at TA's ALOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!
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Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 04:30:40
Lol, its kinda odd you say this, because beofre I learned the Sonic, I was trying to learn how to do at least 5 Charge Rotations, and like one day, my hands kinda spazzed, so I wound up doing a Sonic completly by accident (SP?) After that, i looked around some and found that trick, so after I'd say about 2 weeks of annoying pen falls, and annoyed classmates (Practicing at school is so time consuming, the day goes by so fast) I learned it well enough to link it into some pretty savvy combos.
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Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 03:58:49
I don't know how many times I failed, but I do know that it took me a couple of days before I could master it.
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Date: Wed, Jan 21 2009 10:24:14
I looked at the tutorial video by Eso when I first wanted to learn it, that was in the morning. Throughout the day, I keep doing it and keep dropping it. But by the end of the day, voila, I got it!
GOT it, but haven't master it. Until today, I still drop it once in a while. Mistakes happen XD -
Date: Sun, Jan 25 2009 15:05:30
For those having troubles, try having your pen placed slightly lower on the 3rd segment of ur middle finger. It's really hard for me to be having the pen placed at the tip of the finger then trying to do sonic. XD
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Date: Tue, Feb 3 2009 12:59:01
i failed at sonic not more 5 times
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Date: Thu, Feb 26 2009 22:47:25
Second trick I learned. I got it pretty easy and was very happy with myself until I realized that what I was doing wasn't actually a sonic. Then it was even harder to both learn it the proper way and unlearn the wrong way, which I'd been doing a lot. Took a few days, but very frustrating. I remember throwing my pen across my room in anger at least once. Heh, I actually yelled out "HOLY SHIT!" the first time I did it right.
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Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 06:02:50
i got it in the first try. very easy trick. i never failed miserably in it.
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Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 18:22:21
hmmm well Idk how many times but lets just say alot
practice makes perfect
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Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 21:57:02
hey
yea the sonic is a basic trick but it was very hard for me ...
after one week i still couldn't do it and i was very desperate..
but after two weeks i suddenly got the sonic perfect ^^
practice is important, and everybody learns tricks more or less easily
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Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 22:13:05
Exactly, for me it took a little bit longer because nobody taught me how to do it. I needed to figure it out by myself, just by looking a guy in My English Class in college that just kept on doing it, I messed up a few time doing A Pass Reverse 23-12. When I did it more than 10 times I tried to do A Sonic 34-23 since a Sonic is one of the Fundamental Tricks in PS. As soon as I was done with that I did Sonic 34-12.
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Date: Fri, May 8 2009 07:47:54
Well..
when i first tried to learn sonic, it kept getting stuck between my fingers for like a thousand times lol, so i spent like a couple of hours at school practising.
but the good thing is... it builds up patience, heh.
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 02:28:35
Haha i got it down in the first 15 minutes (second trick i learned). But i guess i cant brag cause i failed a million times at ta reverse.
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 15:36:10
I did sonic first try
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 20:32:38
I think I deserve a medal for getting about 200+ lmao
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Date: Mon, May 18 2009 06:36:04
It took me one year to practice ..........
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Date: Mon, May 18 2009 13:59:51
i failed a lot
it tooks me weeks to learn sonic -
Date: Mon, May 18 2009 14:14:10
lol it took me 3 and a half weeks to do sonic i almost gave up XD
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Date: Tue, May 19 2009 04:27:02
It was impossible to get...
Enter Eso's tutorials. Got it in 5. -
Date: Tue, May 19 2009 14:36:05
I phailed for like 1 and a half weeks and i did it constantly................
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Date: Tue, May 19 2009 20:24:23
for me it took a few hours, but that time was spent actually tryin to figure out how it was supposed to work... once i realized how the trick worked it, everything kinda fell into place.
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Date: Tue, May 19 2009 21:58:15
Meh... I started trying today... up to now I've failed miserably... you know what, I think I'm going to lock myself in my room for half an hour and see if I can finally get it.
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Date: Wed, May 20 2009 04:39:36
man... why is it so hard for you guys...
It took me like 30 mins in the middle of a class to get it fine o.0 -
Date: Wed, May 20 2009 16:26:11
I finally got it, after like 2 days. It's a bit dodgy though, but I'll work on it.
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Date: Wed, May 20 2009 23:35:38
Lol, I was able to do it like 50-50 after like 15 minutes.
Took quite a bit longer to be able to do it (practically) 100% of the time. -
Date: Fri, May 22 2009 08:09:04
was the easiest trick after thumbaround.
pressure method pwn -
Date: Fri, May 22 2009 12:16:52
Every single time, I thought I did a bloody sonic till someone tell me its completely screwed.
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 05:24:06
once i applied too much pressure and shot my face
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 06:50:51
Lol when I was still learning Sonic, my pen ink spilled onto my clothes...
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:03:08QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 24 2009, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Lol when I was still learning Sonic, my pen ink spilled onto my clothes...
Goodjob
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:06:22QUOTE (phua sy @ May 24 2009, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Goodjob
Thank you? XD -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 07:07:40QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 24 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thank you? XD
welcome
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 08:37:48
the pen fly and break....
but i ca do sonic well now -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 09:57:55QUOTE (marcelc @ May 24 2009, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the pen fly and break....
but i ca do sonic well now
WOW! how did it break? -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 13:56:57
every time i tried sonic, my friends would hit my pen out of my hand <.<
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Date: Tue, May 26 2009 04:48:36
maybe alot of times when i was learning the trick and 6 times after i learned the twisted sonic.
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Date: Thu, May 28 2009 23:42:45
my friend(titan) taught me twisted sonic before learning sonic... so it took me about three days to do sonic consistently.
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Date: Sat, May 30 2009 00:37:22
Dude, when i was learning Sonic, i did it really fast, my pen jumped and hited my friend LOL
I mastered sonic in a week ( maybe ) and after it, i fail rarely, when my hand is too cold xD -
Date: Sun, Jun 7 2009 15:47:01
at least 20 times or more. I just started pen spinning
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Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 16:04:26
I learned Sonic pretty quickly, a few hours, Sonic reverse took alot longer tough...
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Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 18:48:48
well y ou dont touch your index and ring fingers, that would block the pen from passing through. but you slightly move them towards each other. after i understood that concept, i quickly mastered the sonic.
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Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 20:59:20QUOTE (flumbo @ Jun 9 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well y ou dont touch your index and ring fingers, that would block the pen from passing through. but you slightly move them towards each other. after i understood that concept, i quickly mastered the sonic.
good words flumbo -
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 21:25:11
It took me around a week to master the sonic but once I understood the motion of the trick it was a lot easier. It took me so long because whenever I watched any videos of people teaching the sonic it looked to me that there was an extra rotation in there so that's how I tried to do the trick. But once I found out how simple it is I got it pretty quickly. I still haven't learned the Rev Sonic though...
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Date: Fri, Oct 16 2009 18:28:10QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 1 2008, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>3164 times before I made my first ten in a row. I think 15 or 16 of them actually landed more than 1 metre away from me.
Another 8934 times before I got my first hundred in a row.
did you accually count all the fails?xD
it didn't fall that much by me, but my problem was; that i couldn't get the pen over my middlefinger! -
Date: Fri, Oct 16 2009 21:38:05
i learned this trick extremely fast =D
took me only 10 tries -
Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 04:45:57
it took me like 3 full days of none stop trying to do sonic wit a BICtory
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Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 10:04:47
A lot of times.
Though, only one night or so to learn the thumb-flap method. Not counting the numerous days that I was attempting to do it the wrong way.
Then about 4-7 days to learn the non-pressure method. Didn't really work for me building momentum up with a Charge 23 before trying it. Read the Sonic Normal thread, found a few tips and voila. Thank-you, UPSB. -
Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 12:04:39
more than anyone btw why would anyone go and stupidly count the no. of times he failed
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Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 21:50:26
Idk, not very many, I started with the non pressure method, and I learned it in like 3 days.
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Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 11:58:11QUOTE (Nation @ Oct 20 2009, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Idk, not very many, I started with the non pressure method, and I learned it in like 3 days.
wow that's fast i learn tipped sonic in a day and
spent many many days trying to turn it into a sonic
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Date: Thu, Oct 22 2009 19:46:31
Sonic was a bit harder to learn that twisted sonic for me. Though, I learned Sonic in about 2 days.
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Date: Mon, Nov 9 2009 20:47:24
i think i did it like 500 times before i could do a sonic.
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Date: Mon, Nov 9 2009 20:52:31
Around 50, although it only took me fourteen minutes to get it down.
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Date: Mon, Nov 23 2009 00:28:44
Ah, the good old Sonic.
I failed well over 10,000 times (and get this: for most of those fails, I mistook the Sonic for the Inverse Twisted Sonic
) before doing one successful Sonic. I didn't learn the TF variant...that just got me doing a 23-12 Pass Normal (which, at first, I thought the Sonic was ). Took me maybe one week to learn.
And the girl who sits next to me in math class learned it in 30 seconds flat, just by watching me .
I got PWNED by the Sonic (or, should I say, PWNED by the girl next to me who learned the Sonic). -
Date: Mon, Nov 23 2009 03:52:03
around 100 times
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Date: Mon, Nov 23 2009 03:57:09
umm idk how many tries but it took me at least half an hour to master it
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Date: Sun, Jan 3 2010 16:40:27QUOTE (spinneraddiction @ Nov 22 2009, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>umm idk how many tries but it took me at least half an hour to master it
same here it wasnt to hard
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Date: Sat, Jan 9 2010 22:19:49
sonic 34-23 was harder for me than 23-12. But they both only took 2 days to learn
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Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 17:26:12
(I think) If you learn charge first, learning Sonic without thumbflap is easier than without.
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Date: Sun, Jan 24 2010 03:04:37
hahahah, I accidentally learned the sonic
like I would do a idk what it's called...
like a twisted sonic but my index finger would go toward the knuckle side of my hand... like a normal pass but with the charge 23
and I accidentally did a sonic...
my friend then told me I did a sonic lolol
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Date: Mon, Jan 25 2010 02:22:32
Same on me
i am also learned it by accident
i ask my friend for showing me how to do a sonic...
my friend told me it is just changing while doing charge
i followed the movement and i learned the thumb flap version...within 5 minutes
actually it is quite easy if you learned charge and have the concept of the finger movement -
Date: Mon, Jan 25 2010 04:58:17
I learned it pretty fast (w/o the thumb flap) and i remember one time, in my Spanish class, I was trying to master it and my Buster flew across the room and hit my friend in the eye
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Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 08:29:32
not much ..like 100 times XD
ask how many times i dropped it during the bakfall learning XD even after learning lol
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Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 22:16:26
i thought i got got it pretty quick, but my frend said i was actually doing something along the lines of a "ghetto fingerpass". turns out i was doing it wrong the whole time. then i looked up a tut and it took me like a week to get it down
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Date: Tue, Feb 9 2010 09:41:00
I think i actually got it pretty fast, although mine was REALLY SLOPPY.
i got the concept and everything but it didnt run smoothly.
Only 'til i learned Sonic 34-23 did i sonic 23-12 smoothly. -
Date: Tue, Feb 9 2010 23:10:48
A lot of times xD
It took me about a week to understand the movement of the mod (the video that I was using to learn didn't explain the movement -.- When I saw a Tioloco's Tutorial I learned the trick)
I remember the day that I learned the sonic, just a few seconds after learn Charge ^^
Sorry for my bad English xD I'm Spanish -
Date: Sat, Apr 17 2010 02:48:05
when i first tried the trick i could get it 1 out of a 100 times but after a long time of practicing i drop it once after a 100 times XD
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Date: Sat, Apr 17 2010 03:23:32
i gotta a feeling` (8)
That this is going to be moved or closed =3 -
Date: Sat, Apr 17 2010 20:24:02
actually for me, around 10 times, then i mastered it
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Date: Sat, Apr 17 2010 22:11:05
about 200 times xD
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Date: Sun, Apr 18 2010 15:31:17
I still cant do it i need a better vid. but im sure ill get though,"I REALLY SUCK AT PEN SPINNING CAN ONLY DO THE THUMB AROUND."
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Date: Sun, Apr 18 2010 23:46:48
[quote name='SilentFalcon' date='Feb 24 2008, 10:08 AM' post='56271']
How many times did you fail miserably at a sonic, before being able to spin one consistently?[quote]
Probably at least 100 times until I got it down. -
Date: Mon, Apr 19 2010 04:01:44
like 10 i think, i used pressure though and it was sloppy. It took about a week to become smooth and done without pressure.
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Date: Fri, Apr 23 2010 04:23:27
a fail? ? ? when i'm learn the sonic at first time, i'm always make a fail. But now, i can do sonic without see my pen. just keep trying
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Date: Sat, Apr 24 2010 00:36:46QUOTE (Krispy Kreme @ Apr 16 2010, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i gotta a feeling` (8)
That this is going to be moved or closed =3
Why would it be closed? The thread started in 2008 and hasn't been closed yet. Also 12 page threads usually dont get closed.