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General Discussion / Mind Set in Learning Tricks

discuss more on how tricks should be learned

  1. stroud
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 04:29:14

    I have been wondering by knowing the mere fact that many of the best spinners that I do know started spinning about just 1-2 years ago. They are very awesome and amusing but how can they learn and perform amazing combos just within that period of time? While others who started spinning about 5years ago are not as good as the ones ive been addressing to? except for the time spent in practicing, does it have something to do with the way they learn tricks??

    I posted this topic to ask for tips on the mind set of a spinner who is about to study a trick.
    After learning a trick, do you need to learn the different variations of it first or to study and learn another trick? what should go first?

  2. Tatemichi
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 06:18:33

    For me I find it useful to practise a single trick
    multiple times until

    1. I master it.

    2. I can get it 80-90% of the time.

    The I proceed on to another trick in the same family.

    After my "Learning" phase I wil practise the tricks
    I know all ready.

    You do not want to practise only the same types of tricks!

    Try to maintain a good variety, or a reliance on one particular
    trick family will occur.

    Just remember to have fun!

    Tricks will come with time and the
    more you practise the faster they will come!

    I hope this helps you! Good luck! laugh.gif

  3. Eso
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 12:35:24

    http://rmxd.wordpress.com/tutorials/the-tr...getting-tricks/

    I'll have to write a follow up to this article someday...

  4. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 14:42:15

    I think I wrote an article on that... don't remember

    The first step is theoretical: understand exactly what has to be done.

    The second step is practice, a lot.

    You'll spend 95% of your time in the second phase.

  5. Novastrike
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 17:11:03

    For me, just know how the pens revolves around your fingers.
    Make sure your starting and ending position is correct.
    And practice!

    Eso taught in this kind of manner I guess...

  6. stroud
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 23:34:00

    QUOTE (Eso @ Feb 25 2008, 04:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://rmxd.wordpress.com/tutorials/the-tr...getting-tricks/

    I'll have to write a follow up to this article someday...



    i wish that someday come today

    QUOTE (Tatemichi @ Feb 24 2008, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    For me I find it useful to practise a single trick
    multiple times until

    1. I master it.

    2. I can get it 80-90% of the time.

    The I proceed on to another trick in the same family.

    After my "Learning" phase I wil practise the tricks
    I know all ready.

    You do not want to practise only the same types of tricks!

    Try to maintain a good variety, or a reliance on one particular
    trick family will occur.

    Just remember to have fun!

    Tricks will come with time and the
    more you practise the faster they will come!

    I hope this helps you! Good luck! laugh.gif



    thx for the tip of practicing tricks of the same family though

  7. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 00:18:54

    Some spinners practice more while some spinners are simply just better. Those are the only reasons why some spinners are better than others.

    Learning tricks is the easy part. The hard part is having the determination to learn the trick -- well -- no, actually the hard part is getting adept and smooth at the trick and being able to link it into combos well. Initially, I'd only learn one or two tricks at a time, but nowadays, I enjoy tackling a high number of advanced tricks, not just one or two tricks. It's all up to you really, there's no certain way to learn anything. We don't have a government that dictates what you learn and how you should learn it.

  8. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 00:38:29

    i just take it from Eriror's quote:

    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ0QFto_nxg

    nothing is ever easy ~_~.....so hard word is wats most important ~_~

  9. Xero
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 00:52:55

    There are some tricks that SHOULD be learned one after another though,
    LIKE:

    TA > Ext. TA > Fake Double

    Charge > Twisted Sonic

    Infinity > Double Infinity


    Do tricks next that are based off of the ones you know now. happy.gif

  10. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 01:17:10

    QUOTE (Xero @ Feb 25 2008, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    There are some tricks that SHOULD be learned one after another though,
    LIKE:

    TA > Ext. TA > Fake Double

    Charge > Twisted Sonic

    Infinity > Double Infinity


    Do tricks next that are based off of the ones you know now. happy.gif


    There's a learning chart somewhere. On Pentrix I believe. It's not required though. I learned the bakfall before I learned the double thumbaround.

    EDIT

    Here it is:

    http://pentrix.com/articles/images/learning_order.gif

  11. Katantoon
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 03:03:31

    grin2.gif oooh i have a quote for this.......... "Character is what seperate the good from the great." ......well, in some point. tongue.gif

  12. Simån
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 22:07:13

    We should not kid ourselves, it has something to do with talent... Just like in sports, where someone may use all his time practicing and never become a professional, while someone else might do, not because he trained more, but because he was the the one with more talent...
    Sure you dont get anywhere without determination, practice and patients.. But some might get there faster with their talent...

  13. stroud
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 00:50:01

    QUOTE (Simån @ Feb 28 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    We should not kid ourselves, it has something to do with talent... Just like in sports, where someone may use all his time practicing and never become a professional, while someone else might do, not because he trained more, but because he was the the one with more talent...
    Sure you dont get anywhere without determination, practice and patients.. But some might get there faster with their talent...




    so you mean PSing a also a talent?

  14. Simån
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 12:41:48

    Definitely it is, someone is born with more control over their fingers than others...

  15. cluu1
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 01:26:09

    i learn passively
    i don't try
    if i get it i get it
    if i don't i just randomly have my weak attempts at getting it until i get it lol

  16. Se7en
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 01:31:27

    i focus hard on learning tricks