UPSB v3

General Discussion / The Life of a Pen Spinner

New Project

Aries
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 08:14:27

Hey,

This is Aries. Guitrum and I have been planning this out. We were thinking of publishing a book with a cd maybe of people spinning. Mostly the book would be the huge chunky part. People send in their stories of how life has been and include a section about penspinning in there somewhere. Each person will ahve their own page. If we do include a cd, it will just consist of penspinning combos showing what penspinning is about. Hopefully I can find a good editor because I only have WMM.

Anyways, if this does hit off we plan on publishing it, it might help penspinning community increase and also show people the lives of teenagers/people. For example mine

Spoiler:

Ok, so the new semester started for me, and I recently failed some quizzes/tests bringing my grades down to C's and B's. These can still change a lot due to the new semester.

My parents keep bitching about me having low grades. They compare me to other relatives and/or people. Everytime it's just me and either or both of my parents in the car, they always start a conversation with school.

Example:
Dad: "How was school today?"
Me: "Fine"
Dad: "What's fine????"
Me: (in my head I'm thinking; douche I don't want to talk about fucking school damn, every conversation is always about school get the fuck off the topic of school and talk about something else)
"Good "
Dad: " This is what I always notice about you, you can not explain...I TOLD YOU, YOU NEED TO READ, READ, READ, AND READ!!!"
Aries: ...(ignoring him because he's given this shout/speech already with the same excat starting and end.)
Dad: "Why don't you answer me?!?!?!?" "You can't talk?! What are you stupid?!?"
Aries: *sigh* "I went to AP Euro, Chemistry, and Algebra---"
Dad: "How's chemistry?"
Aries: "Fine"
Dad: "What do you mean fine?" "Like what did you do in class?"
Aries: "Turn in homework and take notes."
Dad: "THAT'S IT?!?!?!"
Aries: "Yeah, that's what we do everyday..."
Dad: *shakes head like he doesn't believe me* "Okay, so what did you do in Algebra?"
Aries: "The same thing I did in chemistry."
Dad: "IT CAN'T BE THE SAME!"

This could go on forever...but time to get to the point.

Parents(or at least mine) don't fucking understand that high school is totally different from when they were in high school. My parents also think that I'm the one fucking up, in my opinion some of m teachers don't teach for shit(Mr. Sarkany, know his name and hate it). Most of the time my parents give me the same speech again and again about going to university. I know my parents want the best for me, but really what's wrong with not going to college. I won't make enough money big deal. My parents always assume that if you don't go to college you become a hobo or work at McDonalds. Then my parents add on, that I won't be able to go to reunion because I will be so ashamed of myself. FUCK, I don't fucking care if I suck at reunion. All my parents fucking want is my fucking money when I get a better job than they do. FUCKERS aren't going to touch my money. Knowing my parents are asian and have shitty jobs, course all they want is my fucking money. My parents also try to find every weak point I have and compare it to other people. Like for example, they would find that I don't do my homework right after I get home from school, then they mention Rae. Oh, Rae is so good he goes to his room locks the door and concentrates on his homework. FUCK they don't even fucking know that Rae is on the fucking computer on this forum and doing other shit like Myspace. Another is my dad is co-workers with my friends dad and he compares me to my friend. He's like, "I heard you have a test, did you know that my co-workers son studied until 1 o'clock in the morning?""Why can't you be like him?"
When I'm fucking up at 1 am I doubt anyone is going to fucking check if I'm studying(which I am).
My parents also say that my grades are "affecting" the family. How the FUCK???? The only one it's fucking up is me, and you fucking head because they can't fucking think straight. They also always assume that I lie when I say that I have finished my homework. FUCK!!!!!!!!They're like, "I'm going to check your homework." They obviously don't check my homework. Anyways I walk past them at any random time after I have finished my homework, and they ask ,"Did you finish your homework?" I respond, "Yes, you can check it's on top of my desk." They still don't fucking check, and the next morning they're like, " I know you didn't finish your homework yesterday." What the FUCK you didn't even check the fucking assignment. The whole ASSUME= Ass out of you and me is totally true. Faggot parents. They also say, " What can we do to help you?" I seriously don't know how seeing that they don't know shit about what I'm being taught. So I respond with, "I don't know" Then they keep asking me the same question of how can we help you? Damn they don't realize that asking the question to the person who has the problem again and again won't help. They need to think for themselves. Also, when I don't do a chore one day, they bitch about it. It's one fucking chore. Then they say I don't help around the house. We have an aunt that helps around the house like washes dishes, washes clothes, cleans the swimming pool and etc. Anyways, my parents are like, " Your lucky to have her around, who would do all those chores?" Uh, me motherfuckers. I would do all those chores except my aunt does them, and it's kind of a silent agreement that the chores are her territory until I move out... All my brothers do are play on the computer that whole time or have like wrestle sex(Don't ask). It just ticks me off how my parents can be so bitchy about these little things they don't know motherfucking shit about. They also say that all they ask from me is that I do well in school. Lies. The only reason why people even have children is to make money off of them, have them accidentaly while having "fun", and to help you the fuck out when your fucking old. Fuck, I won't help my parents when they are old and about to die. When they die I won't go to their funeral unless I get money or something. I'm not emotional at all so my parents can fuck off.

I understand that, yes I do have responsibilities to do. But I'm still 15 and I still have a lot of growing up to do. I do see that grades are important, but I can't let my life be only about school. They think I have the life they didn't, I don't. They need to get it through their heads that I don't want to be something great, at least not yet. I want to live my life my way, freely. I don't wanna live their dream, I wanna live mine. I realize I do have problems with school. Procrastination is a biggie in my book. I just can't help it , there's no marking when it began nor when it will end. I just don't like the thought of doing homework. Because at the end of the day there is nothing to look foward to except dinner and sleep. I am trying to stop this habit now. I hope this problem with my parents and I will be resolved, as for now it's just going to be shouting lectures of the samething over and over again, because everything is just based off grades. I would compromise with my parents if they actually wanted to compromise. But seeing that there is abosolutly no positive communication between any of us, it won't happen soon. Notice that through out this whole rant, in all the conversations I have had with my parents, I am the one who is calm. I am a very serene person. I will forgive people easily and I am never sad. My dad is over reactive, shouts a lot when in the situation he can talk at a normal tone, thinks he's always right, turns my side of the story into something negative. My mom always tries to help, but it never actually helps it just worsens our relationship. I fear that my parents and I aren't very close to each other, the only connection we have is that we live in the same house and my grades. I wish that I can break those barriers down and make a connection with my parents through anything else except grades and school. My parents have no unconditional love for me, more so that they love my grades/school more than me. I am just a tool to them a tool to get good grades, a tool to get into a university, a tool to get a good job, a tool to get money. It's what everyone is after, it's either love or money. Both make the world go 'round. There's nothing people can do about it. People will always have their own opinion and think they are right.

I just hope that I can spend my childhood/teenage years loving my family not trying to impress them with my grades. Life in a teenagers shoes today is more difficult than what parents or pshcyologists that write about teenage life can know. It's hard to explain, but one sentence can sum up our lives, "Life is fucked up, move on" That's what I do. It sucks that my parents only care for my grades, when they try to help they don't like my answer/compromise. I am the one willing to change, the only one I am waiting for to change are my parents. Until then life will stay fucked up, there's nothing I can do about it until they change.

Penspinning has become a big part of my life. The community feels like family, we have a connection, not for personal gain, but for our interests. You guys listen to anyone's opinion and take it to consideration, and don't try to oppose it with bullshit. You guys are cool, thanks for being there for me, peace and <3

<3,
-Aries

Ok, so it's also to break down barriers between adults and kids alike. We all have problems communicating or having a healthy relationship with parents or someone you love. If we expose what we go through and what happens in our lives, we can break those barriers. It will aslo show that penspinning is beneficial helping people to connect with others even though they are half way across the world.

Tell me what you guys think, vote, disscuss, and penspin. Please be mature about this subject. It is pretty serious considering it may get published and it is speaking out to the public.

If this hits off, I will create an official topic for autobiography submissions. I will edit mine too lol, it was just a huge rant.
Rorix
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 08:33:35

God damn, no way am I reading that (your life story thingy). I read the first sentence of it and it just sounds like the bitching of an average teenager.

And why combine the two topics of pen spinning and the life of teenagers? The average teenager probably wouldn't read something like that, even if it involved pen spinning. Adults probably would view it as too kiddy since pen spinning doesn't seem like a serious topic.

It'd be more effective to have the two topics published separately, into their own books, spreading pen spinning and the lives of teenagers are very different things.

There's also the problem with production and distribution. No one would be willing to spend the time and money on something like this.

So, no, I don't think this would be an effective idea.
Aries
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 08:38:14

I was bitching about my parents but, if you read the conclusion I make my statement more calmly and reasonable.
Hellblaza
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 08:43:15

Are you fucking serious?

Is this about pen-spinning or ... your life? Do you expect us to read that "example" of yourself raging about how your parents treat you and bug you about your education?

In that whole wall of text, you didn't mention the word "penspinning" let alone "pen" once, except in that very last paragraph.

And what Rorix said, the production and distribution issue. I cannot think of a group of people willing to spend their hard earned money on these "autobiographies" of penspinners.
Tim
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 08:53:36

It was an idea. I don't think he's sent a letter to the publishing company yet or anything like that. You don't have to voice your opinion of it being a bad idea with flaming.

I do agree with Rorix on the whole nobody will want to read a book on 'unfamous' teenagers who spin pens.

BTW: the first part was @Hellblaza

EDIT: It's not hardcore flaming or anything, but still, you could have said it much better then that.
walkingjacket
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 09:04:50

Hmm.... That example tag looks like an excuse to be able to bitch about your life then add on a bit about pen spinning to make it relevant to your project.

I agree with Rorix, this is an ineffective idea.
Hellblaza
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 09:39:37

QUOTE
EDIT: It's not hardcore flaming or anything

101% disagree. If you haven't noticed, the most noticeable word in the whole of that, was "FUCK", and its variants. As far as I know, capitalizing a word means, you want to emphasize the meaning for a greater effect; or shouting the word out.

It is clear that he is unhappy with things and is using this to express himself.
Aries
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 09:51:06

lol this is an idea you don't have to rant about your parents, i guess i just needed to rant. But ya mostly about penspinning not your oparents and crap sry for the misunderstanding.
Hellblaza
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 09:57:30

So what would you talk about instead of ranting about your life? Some ideas would be good.
-JC-
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 10:28:17

i guess you could always rant about the way penspinning changed your life, little by little

like in teh beginning, it had barely any impact
slowly, my wallet started getting smaller xDD
then i'm completely obsessed with it and spend so much money on mods

and this story'll be a bit different for each person

and it'll be different between spinner and modder and judges and people like zombo/sketching

so this could potentially be a good idea...it's just that aries's example wasn't that..good

Edit: oh forgot to add, even if this thing gets published, nobody's gonna buy it
maybe some penspinners'll get it, but that's about it--and there aren't that many penspinners out there in the big picture
even if you get all the people who even know a ta to get it, and their parents, how many people do you think that'll come out to be?
10-20 thousand? at most?

it's not a lot of people but if you wanna give this project a shot, go ahead

but in truth, i probably wouldn't even buy it cause i'm not gonna bother reading so many stories about other penspinner's lives
maybe i'd read some famous spinners like erirors, or sketching/zombo, or scott, or um... you know what i'm getting at
but i'm not gonna buy the book to read 10 pages or whatnot
Eso
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 12:40:50

Learn proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar before attempting please.

Besides, you've only been spinning for less than a year, maybe up to a year. I'd much rather read the pen spinning life story of Zombo or David Weis rather than you, no offense. They've been alive longer.
xshadowfire
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 13:01:23

If you're going to write a pen spinning autobiography, why bother sticking your life into it? A brief summary would be more than enough.
This may not be the ideal example, but here's a short autobiography I wrote for ThaiSpinner:
QUOTE
So this is the all-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-xshadowfire-bsed-in-20-minutes-edition, also known as the ayewtkaxsfbsi20me.

About me:
I'm just some brat in high school that lurks on the internet all day, so that makes me your average loser.
My interests are pen spinning(duh), anime, technical junk, computers, and programming.
I run the server for UPSB.
lol internets.

Pen Spinning Life:
I saw my first trick - a charge - in sunday school back in 1999-2000 or so, I think. I tried to learn it but soon gave up.
However, on September 29, 2006 (Yes, I'm such a loser that I remember the exact date!), someone posted a youtube link to JapEn 1st and I was simply amazed.
I searched around on youtube for some tutorials and other videos, and eventually found myself at PSConclave. There, I learned the bulk of my fundamentals and trick nomenclature.
I don't remember if it was from PSConclave or from youtube, but I also registered on UCPSB a couple days later. About two months after my registration, I met up with lunasol, another spinner from UCPSB. If I had to choose, he'd probably be the one that influenced my spinning the most.
-Fast forward 6 months since nothing import happens in this time frame-
On August 20, 2007, I formed the team Genesis, which is well...a pen spinning team. More about Genesis can be found here.
About a month later, UPSB opened. Apparently, the host they were on was limited on bandwidth, so I offered to host UPSB on a dedicated server. I pretty much handle all the stuff in the background that no one cares about and ~~pretend to~~ take care of the server.

Summary/Conclusion type thing:
I think I've come a long way since I first started spinning, but I'm still not too satisfied with my skill level. After almost a year and a half, I don't think there's a single trick I've completely mastered. I never perfect a trick, I just move on once I get it to a certain success rate and get bored of it. Because of this, I usually take a long time to film videos. Fin.
Katantoon
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 13:35:31

uhm actually it wouldnt be a problem but first of all.... i really like to write stuff and for once thats not a novel you did.. thats more like a script on a play....with a narrator and stuff. If you really want to, try to read fictions. It'll help u Besides too much teen angst you made it sound that we're like delinquents.
Zombo
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 14:16:30

so... you want to sell this for commercial purposes or something?
Novastrike
Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 15:12:44

I think this ideal won't works.
There are tons of books out there teaching parents how to communicate with their child, that will be good enough I guess...
And I don't think people will be interested in life of pen spinners. Even those famous people out there, I don't even read their biography, just kinda lazy, it's their life, not mine. As long as mine is interesting, that will be good!
Aries
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 01:15:18

/facepalm. I guess this failed, it was just an idea anyways ya u can close this now.
K4S
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 01:22:47

Blog.
Crzyazn
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 01:52:32

"Life of the stereotypical angst filled 1st gen asianamerican teen"

one chapter would be penspinning
Dritan_Zulbeari
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 01:57:58

Holy this is a good idea.
Hellblaza
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 02:41:23

Ideal example by xshadowfire. I'd be more interested in that.

QUOTE
Learn proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar before attempting please.

Couldn't have said it better. I cannot say how much I dislike people typing without spelling simple words properly. Not naming anyone, but its obvious who you are.
sadi teh pirate
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 02:51:14

QUOTE (Aries @ Feb 27 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
/facepalm. I guess this failed, it was just an idea anyways ya u can close this now.

It could work, u just need to make it look more professional and focus on Pen Spinning solely. there is no purpose in making this about the life of a penspinner in regards to anything other then pen spinning. an educational video alone would seem more appealing rather then a full blown book....i do not think i would ever read a book about the life of a yoyo'er or baton twirler.......

p.s. if u ask nicley, i can help u get sony vegas pro 8.0
Kyosuke
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 02:54:46

Uhh.. vague? You should of posted paragraphs describing your progress in pen spinning and why you started it. Btw, I read your whole rant and that last concluding paragraph didn't evaluate the thesis. It kinda threw me off. However, I do feel kinda sorry for your personal life. Hope it goes well.
AntonWebsters
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 15:29:31

Reading about your personal life kinda bores me.
Mats
Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 15:42:53

Even with help from God himself, you still couldn't write and sell this novel Aries...

Xshadowfire, that was pretty interesting. Maybe there should be a thread for people to post a little overview of their pen spinning 'career' thus far?