UPSB v3
Approved Tutorials / RETRACTABLE ayatori mod lookalike!
Retractable HGG Jell Mod
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Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 07:14:49
Hi, I believe you guys have seen iNoob's and mine ayatori mod substitutes, but the main drawback is that those pens cannot write. I've decided to add on to the Sexy HGG Jell Mod made by me and iNoob, here , by making it retractable, stable, and yet retaining the cool look of an ayatori mod
:D:D
It basically should like sort of look like an ayatori mod, like this:
Im going to upload a vid of it clicking soon, and I will throw it around TEK style.
Stats:
COP = COG
Length = 20cm
Writable= YES! AND RETRACTABLE!
Weight=17g-ish
Materials:
1 G2 pen ( whole thing)
1 Zebra Jimne Gel (other name is Hyper Gel)
1 Uni Laknok Retractable/Pilot Super Grip Inktube + spring ( or any other suitable inktube + spring)
1 HGG Barrel
1 Pilot Nextage Tip
1 Signo Tip
1 Grip with a funky cutting ( Signo knock type grip or Dr Grip can be used)
1 toothpick
sandpaper/file
To anyone that bitches about how many pens this mods needs, it doesnt really need that many pens. The pens that you would need to buy would be a G2, Zebra Jimne Gel/Hyper Gel) and a Pilot Supergrip/Laknok Retractable. The rest of the materials, most people would have them lying around somewhere, such as a signo tip, hgg barrel, and maybe a spare dr. grip grip? So don't be intimidated by the amount of materials, and it only takes around 20 minutes to assemble the pen, factoring in filing and stuff.
Parts Required:
Step 1:
1. Cut the G2 Barrel at slightly above the kink of the barrel. ( near the clicker part), and right above the screw thread, so you get two parts: the clicker part, and a clear g2 barrel about 3cm long. For the clicker part, cut it in such a way shown in the picture. Ignore the overly long clicker part, the kink should not be included. File it down such that it is of the same width as a hgg barrel, or else when you click, the insert will slide off.
2.File the front of the HGG barrel (area between tip and grip) such that the cut g2 barrel from step 1 can go over it, and remove the backplug and inktube. File the areas circled in red.
3. For the G2 clicker part, there should be two plastic parts : one elongated clicker part, ( I shall call it clicker part 1), and the part below it(I shall call it clicker part 2). Cut clicker part 1 in such a way as shown in the picture, to a length of about 1.4cm. Cut the clicker part 2 in such a way as shown in the picture, and also cut off about 0.2cm of the long, thinner part of the clicker part 2 : (the black clicker part 2, blue clicker parts are for reference)
4. Take the spring from the uni Laknock ball point pen and stretch it. Take a tooth pick and stick it into the back of the inktube. ( Repeat process if you have a Pilot Supergrip)
5. Roll an insert for the hgg barrel, if required. File the end of the HGG barrel, such that when you take the clicker part with the two plastic parts in it, and push it onto the end of the HGG barrel, it should be a tight fit, and not come loose.
6. Take the inktube with the tooth pick, and insert it into the hgg barrel. Put the spring on the inktube, hold the pilot nextage tip and test if the retractable mechanism works. It should work, if it doesnt, look for obvious problems such as a too long tooth pick etc.
7. Remove the grip from the zebra jimne gel, and cut a small portion of it( around 0.9-1cm), and slide it onto the hgg grip area. Roll an insert for the front of the hgg barrel, and slide the g2 barrel onto it. It should be a tight fit. If it is impossible for you to do so, just file down the hgg grip area underneath, until it can fit on.
8. Over the tip of the hgg barrel, wrap some double-sided tape, such that the pilot nextage tip screws on firmly, and doesnt shoot out due to the force exerted by the spring when clicking. If all fails, use hot glue or epoxy to glue it on. (Last resort :|) Btw, try not to change your insert once you done step 8. It will be a pain in the ass to redo this.
9. Take another clicker part 2, and cut off the ridges, and cut off abit of the thicker part, such that it fits nicely into a signo tip. Wrap some double sided tape (or anything to thicken it) and screw it tightly into the signo tip.
(blue clicker for reference)
10. Cut off about 0.3cm of the Zebra Jimne Gel Grip, and slip it around the broader part of the signo tip. Push the signo tip with the grip around it into the Zebra Jimne Cap, until you cant push it in further. You can use a g2 barrel to help you push it in.
11. Wrap an insert for the cap 3.4cm by 3 cm, and slide it into the cap. Use tape to secure the insert, but please do not spam, or you will "thicken" the cap, and create friction between the insert and the g2 clicker barrel.
12.Slide funky grip onto the front of the pen, and you are done!
It should be balanced, if the cap part is too heavy then cut off abit of the clip, if not, just leave it.
Credits to ayatori for coming up with the kewlkat grip cutting idea.
Me, for thinking up this mod.
iNoob, for creating the HGG Jell Mod ( we both thought of it independently, and each have our own variations) -
Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 07:16:42
video? so we can see if its good or notdoes it work perfectly everytime? will it get stuck?
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Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 07:20:06
too many pens. if i had the stuff to make an ayatori i could probably make it retract w/ less pens and stuff. anyways nice attempt? my thread sucked too.
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Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 07:29:49QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Mar 4 2008, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
video? so we can see if its good or notdoes it work perfectly everytime? will it get stuck?
It doesnt get stuck. If you want, I can make a vid of it clicking 100 times in a row, but i havent decided on the color schemes yet, so it will look ugly.
@Aries: I can do that too, but i wanted to be original, + the clicking is teh pwnz. -
Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 07:40:12
Seems like a good mod but i dont think it will stand up against the "drop test" (aka durability test). Of course i could be totally wrong and this thing could be as tough as bricks :>
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Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 09:17:50
haha the barrel joint is good but not sure abt the cap part.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 09:04:39
Edited some stuff, added lots of pics to make it a dummy-proof guide.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 09:08:43
Nice mod but that is ALOT of pens you are using
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 09:08:54
does it work very well??
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 09:12:29QUOTE (ellusion67 @ Mar 11 2008, 04:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>does it work very well??
If you mean works well for writing, i'd say ya... Its basically uses a g2 mechanism, which is really reliable and nice to click lol. For spinning, its around 17g, around the weight of a kt, and the tips are at the ends, so there is good momentum. -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 13:36:50
Kay, i dont know if its cuz my scale is wrong cuz it probably is, but when i weighed my Bonkura KT, it sayed .6g... maybe the metrics were off, idk...
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 17:34:11QUOTE (Guitrum @ Mar 11 2008, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Kay, i dont know if its cuz my scale is wrong cuz it probably is, but when i weighed my Bonkura KT, it sayed .6g... maybe the metrics were off, idk...
Wow that's really off lol. During my physics lab class, i measured the pen's weight with the electronic scale balance, and it was about 17g-18g, around the same as a KT, and i took the weight of a KT in the wiki to be correct. -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 22:43:37QUOTE (Gunblakes @ Mar 11 2008, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Wow that's really off lol. During my physics lab class, i measured the pen's weight with the electronic scale balance, and it was about 17g-18g, around the same as a KT, and i took the weight of a KT in the wiki to be correct.
Ok, i definately have to get a new scale...or maybe it was set incorrectly or on a different unit...idk... -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 22:48:17
whoa. thats alot of pens there..
It looks nice though
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 07:02:42
its 17 grams without the retractable shit. with it its more like 20 grams(heavier than a kt)
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 05:06:36
this tutorial, unlike the ones for most retractable mods, is understandable.
can the pens easily be found in the US or on penwish? -
Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 10:21:43QUOTE (TeddyTemptation @ Mar 13 2008, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>this tutorial, unlike the ones for most retractable mods, is understandable.
can the pens easily be found in the US or on penwish?
Well, I suppose Signos, G2s , Dr. Grip COG and HGGs can be found in the US. As for Zebra Jimne Gel, Pilot Nextage, I'm not too sure about the availbility of those. Fret not, I'm releasing a tut on how to make another version of this mod using signo tips, and more commonly available parts soon enough.
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Date: Tue, May 20 2008 23:27:48
hgg's arent that common in the USA... looks nice
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Date: Wed, May 21 2008 11:11:19
really nice...^^
nice job...do you think that it's possible to do it with retractable rsvp? -
Date: Fri, May 23 2008 14:01:50
Wats the total cost u spent on this mod?? Must be very expansive lah. ( singlish...sry...)
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Date: Sat, May 31 2008 04:35:23QUOTE (pen_MAKer @ May 21 2008, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>really nice...^^
nice job...do you think that it's possible to do it with retractable rsvp?
IDK, I dont have a retractable RSVP, you could try though.QUOTE (wizwarezx @ May 23 2008, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Wats the total cost u spent on this mod?? Must be very expansive lah. ( singlish...sry...)
Around 20+ SGD.
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Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 06:17:26
nice job !!!!
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Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 06:18:48
Of course. It's a retractable.
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Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 06:24:53
This mod is a pain in the ass to make though, as the G2 Barrel clicker portion is the hardest part. You cant file it too thin, or it cracks really easily, and yet you need to file it down such that an insert can easily slide over it in the Zebra Jimne Cap
In retrospect, I should not have released this tut as this is one major flaw. -
Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 06:34:37
man ! i cant see the pic clearly
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Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 10:45:45
So.. where's your new tut with the signo tips?
Can i use other inktubes besides the Laknock ones? I'm thinking of something wth gel ink.
We file down the back part of the HGG barrel which is slightly smaller than the rest of the barrel right? th part just behind the "Pentel".
Where'd you get the white grip? Is it a Signo Broad? The one at the front behind the Dr Grip grip where you said should be the jimnie gel grip.
Can we use French/Jap Dr grip grip for the front or is it specifically Dr grip COG?QUOTEThis mod is a pain in the ass to make though, as the G2 Barrel clicker portion is the hardest part. You cant file it too thin, or it cracks really easily, and yet you need to file it down such that an insert can easily slide over it in the Zebra Jimne Cap In retrospect, I should not have released this tut as this is one major flaw.
Sorry but I don't understand this part. Your tut was good. So.. after reading this, are there any changes we have to make to make sure that whatever you said here doesn't happen?
Great tut.
Thanks.
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Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 13:41:28QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Sep 13 2008, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So.. where's your new tut with the signo tips?
Can i use other inktubes besides the Laknock ones? I'm thinking of something wth gel ink.
We file down the back part of the HGG barrel which is slightly smaller than the rest of the barrel right? th part just behind the "Pentel".
Where'd you get the white grip? Is it a Signo Broad? The one at the front behind the Dr Grip grip where you said should be the jimnie gel grip.
Can we use French/Jap Dr grip grip for the front or is it specifically Dr grip COG?
Sorry but I don't understand this part. Your tut was good. So.. after reading this, are there any changes we have to make to make sure that whatever you said here doesn't happen?
Great tut.
Thanks.
Didn't bother making another tut, no time.
You can try, ballpoint refills would work best imo, I havent tried gel refills though.
Yes you file that area.
Its a White Signo Broad.
If you have the other Dr. Grips, you can see why the grips would not work. I personally prefer Dr. Grip Cogs over conventional Signo Knock-type grips as their grip is transparent, major + for aesthetics. But they are loose though.
You have to file the G2 Barrel such that is it thin enough for the cap to slide over it with the insert in it repeatedly without screwing up the insert, but not till it cracks. Its a trial and error process, and very time consuming.
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Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 14:32:42
Tip for step 9. [Just experimented with it]
Filing such a small thing is a nuisance. try using a nail clipper. Tried and worked. -
Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 19:15:25
I want this pen
So beautiful
Can you post white insert -
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 14:01:44
Nice
Can you post your insert please ? -
Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 06:50:51
This is the one by tvister I believe. May not be the actual one though.
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...st&p=150056
EDIT: Sorry, forgot to post link lol.. -
Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 10:25:05
now that u have mentioned that insert.
that is exactly the same insert as my G3MX^2(:
i like that insert alot(:
hahas.
what are the grips that can be used for the one with funky cutting?
pls advice(:
here&now -
Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 14:48:51
Grips from the tuto are dr grip i think
Or you can also use signo grips(knock,0.7) -
Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 01:36:54
I thnk he mentioned dr grip COG or something. Clarify before you do buy it though.. it's gonna be a lot of wasted money if you buy the wrong one.
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Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 08:02:50
After I have put in the insert, i cant put the spring in. Wad do i do now?
Edit: Problem solved. -
Date: Tue, Sep 30 2008 20:04:36
where can i get that insert man... can you send me it or something .. its sick!!
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 11:34:16
Ok... to all people asking me for the insert: I lost it when I bought a new Mac. So sorry guys, no nice insert.
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Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 10:42:14
Cool Insert. :>
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Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 15:30:11
Hey everyone,
Can somebody give me the sizes of the Inserts (front,body,cap) ?
Pleaseee ^^ -
Date: Tue, Nov 18 2008 07:20:56
Is there a sub for the Nextage?
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Date: Mon, May 25 2009 10:53:47
whered u get the grip with the funky cutting?
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Date: Mon, May 25 2009 11:32:23
you cut it on your own.. he use dr grip GPEC in the picture.
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Date: Fri, May 29 2009 11:32:18
could u make a video?
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Date: Fri, May 29 2009 21:37:44QUOTE (soysauce @ May 29 2009, 06:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>could u make a video?
i do not believe one is necessary. videos are worse than a pix tut and plus most people are too lazy to. just follow the pix
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Date: Fri, Apr 23 2010 08:53:08
i'm not sure the cap will stand there for a long time but nice idea about the barrel