UPSB v3
Forum Games / Mafia Game Thread #4 - Town Wins
"The Symposium"
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Date: Thu, Mar 6 2008 02:01:39
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Disclaimer: All scenarios portrayed in Mafia narratives are completely fictional and created solely for entertainment purposes. Any resemblance to actual events is purely coincidental, and while SpinZ exists as a bona fide company, it is not the authors’ intent to commit libel against their enterprise.
Synopsis
Zombo has convened representatives from every major pen spinning board in the inaugural annual Pen Spinning Symposium (PSS). The topic of this year’s symposium is the commercialization of pen spinning. Each community has sent a single member to represent its interests and convey its opinion to the rest of the pen spinning world.
However, the expectant atmosphere turns solemn when Zombo mentions the presence of SpinZ moles masquerading as spinners. SpinZ, he explains, is a fledgling company unequivocally seeking the commercialization of pen spinning. Their objective is to win the commercialization battle by silencing all opposition … permanently.
To compound problems, Zombo also points out the possibility of Pencil Council (PC) members colluding with SpinZ. Despite the PC’s victory at the UCPSB meeting years ago, it would not be surprising if the council sought to undermine pen spinning on a world scale, where damage would be far more incisive. But, as Zombo clearly points out, “Initially we can never know, only suspect.†It now lies in the hands of the representatives to outwit, outplay, and outlast the impostors in their midst before they themselves are victimized …
†: See the Mafia Game #1 at UCPSB, which resulted in a Mafia victory.
Narrator: firebird
Moderator: Zombo
Role Theme:
Each spinner (townie) in the meeting is a (supposedly) unique representative for a well-known pen spinning community, assigned to him/her at the beginning of the game.
Rules:
1) It will be a Day Start.
2) Each day will last roughly 72 hours, each night will last 48 hours. This is at the discretion of the moderator. Extension is possible.
3) 51% of the players will be required to Lynch. When 51% is reached lynching will be automatic so be careful with your vote.
4) Do not quote / screenshot any PM you receive. You may paraphrase any information you receive via PM, though.
5) Do not reveal your teammates.
6) Town people normally may only communicate through the game thread. Mafia may also communicate secretely during the night.
7) If you're eliminated, do not post in the game thread anymore and do not communicate with anybody still playing.
8) If you have any questions please pm the moderator.
9) Have Fun!
10) Only two (2) role claims (aka community claims) are allowed per day for everybody (not per person!). Role claim refers to the act of one player claiming to have invented a certain mod (can be a lie). This is to prevent all townies revealing their role at the same time and putting pressure on non-Town players to come up with a name in a short period of time. Counter-claims are always allowed, unlimited and do not count against the cap. Counter-claiming is a claim on the same role as somebody else. This rule is flexible and may change if necessary. Power claims (claiming to have a certain power) are not restricted.
11) You cannot edit your post. If you make a mistake, simply double-post your correction. If you vote and decide to cancel your vote right after, simply post another post with your change of vote. Double-post is allowed in this thread.
12) Lynch vote must follow the following format:CODE[b]UNVOTE : Player A[/b]
[b]VOTE : Player B[/b]
If you don't vote in bold, your vote won't count. You may change your vote at any time by "unvoting" and re-voting in a subsequent post (Do not edit your previous post). You only have one vote active per day.
13) Prodding: if you feel a player is inactive, ask publicly for a prod in the following format:CODE[b]Prod: Player[/b]
The mod will then respond to you if your request has been granted. The player will then be PM to confirm that he is still participating. Otherwise, he will be replaced. Please don't abuse prodding and note that prodding request is public.
Active Players:
m3x_spinner -- claims to be a representative for ThaiSpinner
hiryuukatana -- claims to be a representative for SweSpin
minche -- claims to be a representative for PPP
Eriror -- claims to be a representative for FPSB
Sleeve -- claims to be a representative for Penzone
Eliminated players:
Night 4
Syrn - Representative - JEB
Day 4
NoRice4U - Mafia Agent - PC
Night 3
WhiteFang - Representative - Doctor - PDS
Day 3
sadi teh pirate - Mafia Godfather - SpinZ
Night 2
Mats - Representative - GPC
Day 2
Invicibleman - Mafia Agent - SpinZ
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB -
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 02:10:30
The Moratorium
“Without haste, but without rest.â€
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
UPSB Laboratories
Day 1
0900
Organizing the first Pen Spinning Symposium was devilishly difficult, entailing much sacrifice and toil, but the final arrangements were meticulously put into place. Representatives from all quadrants of the globe had flown in last week and were afforded time to acclimatize themselves. The symposium had looked promising – until …
A few days ago, the corpse of one of the lab custodians was found in the janitor’s closet. There was a modified SpinZ pen protruding sickeningly from his neck. However, instead of ink, the pen was filled with cyanide that was evidently discharged using the retraction mechanism. Wrapped around the pen was a note:“We know everything. There is no escape. You will all perish, one by one. This is only the beginning.â€
Now, as the representatives began to congregate in the auditorium, Zombo stood behind the lectern, furiously crumpling the note in his hand. He would not tolerate a re-enactment of the events three years ago, when the Pencil Council compromised UCPSB. When everyone was seated, he cut the classical music and began to address the spinners.
“Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to begin by paying tribute to one of the greatest spinners of all time, Bonkura.†A large banner showing Bonkura’s picture was unfurled from the ceiling and the spinners stood in revered silence for one minute.
“Thank you, please be seated. Before we begin, there is a grave matter I must discuss. It appears that SpinZ has learned of our actions and has vowed to kill every one of us. Furthermore, I have adequate reason to believe they have planted moles amongst us, as I see no other way for them to commit their foul deeds.â€
Zombo spoke over the audible murmurs of the audience. “Before we can resume the symposium, we must seek out and destroy our enemies. Executing ostensible SpinZ members is the only plausible option because they would nevertheless choose death over capture.â€
“I will permit one member to be killed each day, but only if there is a majority vote. So vote carefully lest you seal the fate of an innocent spinner, because it will weigh heavily on your conscience. Remember, there is only one true representative per community. The impostors are not affiliated with any forum and will be forced to fabricate an identity under scrutiny. If a consensus cannot be reached, then it will be a bloodless day.
Regardless of the outcome, I am declaring a moratorium until relevant action has been taken. We will meet here every day at 7:00 pm to evaluate our progress and carry out an execution if necessary. Good luck.â€
A short distance away, a mysterious figure was pouring cyanide into a pen, a mischievous grin playing across his face. “Showtime.â€Written by Tialys.
GAME ON!
7 votes required to lynch (or no lynch). 2 role claims possible. You have 72 hours to reach a consensus. Extension is possible.
PRIVATE MAFIA COMMUNICATION IS PROHIBITED DURING THE DAY.
Please read the rules.
Active Players:
WhiteFang
Retro-Spectre
m3x_spinner
hiryuukatana
minche
Mats
NoRice4U
Teatime
Eriror
Sleeve
Invicibleman
Syrn
Eliminated players:
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 02:38:52
Alright, let's lynch the weak first.
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 02:41:09
So who would that be?
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 02:45:03
Personally I want role claims from Eriror, Teatime, and Mats.
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 03:21:33
Weak. Not sure what that really means. I believe that a good mafia member will be clever and thus may come off as a strong a representative. So I can't fully agree on lynch the weak. I'll use my discretion and decide on an individual basis what needs to be done. I don't want to inquire too early, but I hope the decision made at the end of the day has some solid reasoning. If someone is very inactive though I can agree on lynching them. I wanna hear from more people though.
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 03:26:04QUOTE (Syrn @ Mar 6 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Weak. Not sure what that really means. I believe that a good mafia member will be clever and thus may come off as a strong a representative. So I can't fully agree on lynch the weak. I'll use my discretion and decide on an individual basis what needs to be done. I don't want to inquire too early, but I hope the decision made at the end of the day has some solid reasoning. If someone is very inactive though I can agree on lynching them. I wanna hear from more people though.
How are roles chosen? Is it unknown? Random? Hand picked?
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 03:27:42QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Mar 6 2008, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Zombo didn't pm you with your role?
He did, it's just he is wondering the same thing I am. That's why I picked those people. -
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 03:33:47
everything has been assigned completely at random.
this is what I used to randomize: http://adv-random-gen.sourceforge.net/rand....php?gen=mafia/ -
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 03:38:02
I meant the reasoning behind each pick, if it wasn't clear. If it were hand picked, I can't speak for Retro of course, but since Eriror is a highly acclaimed spinner, he may or may not have a special role depending on if Zombo decided to be tricky, or so obvious you don't think it could be true. If it were random then Zombo could have made a list that had a set of roles and whoever filled in chronologically would get those roles. Unknown would basically be no comment, but it's a statement in itself anyway.
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 03:46:05
I didn't see the answer before my last response. You can disregard what i said there. Anyway. Whats your reasoning for lynching the weak Retro? What constitutes weak?
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 04:54:57
Week constitutes Retro...
He comes out straight away all guns blazing immediatly trying to place blame on others...
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 06:34:41
hiya everyone. yeah, come on retro. why don't you tell us your role?
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 14:50:35
Alright I don't really have any solid reason for suspicion of Retro, because honestly i think that, well, hes crazy, and he wanted to get some conversation going. I have more reason to believe that Hiryuu is mafia. He jumps on the first opportunity and is like "come on retro. why don't you tell us your role?" Ok first of all to Retro, please dont claim your role, the mafia wants you to claim your role so they can be closer to killing the special roles, giving them an advantage. I dont want to rule anybody out either because dont forget Retro wanted role claims too. At this point in the game it is hurtful to the town to reveal your role. While both Mats and Retro wanted early role claims, i think Hiryuu stands out more. While Mats may have understandably retaliated to an accusation made at him, Hiryuu can have no personal interest in the role claim of Retro yet. Mats was challenging Retro, possibly to show how pointless it is to give a role claim early on, but Huryuu, well he sounded at that point that he'll agree to anything without looking into it, as long as it results in a kill. I will wait for everyone to speak, because we cant know enough yet but if i had to vote now it would be Hiryuu, because he sounds like he genuinely wanted a role claim, which could only be useful to the mafia right now.
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 15:31:51
Hmmmm, I'm going to have to go with Syrn's logic here...He makes a very good point...
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 21:18:44
If everyone really wants me to claim, I'll make a role claim. But for now... NOPE.
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 21:31:46
uh okay.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 00:33:29
Alright here's my take on things:
Retro knows roles are divided randomly, he targeted so called "weak" people just to get the ball rolling, there's really no basis for any role claims at the moment.
Syrn did come up with a good point though, so if anyone needs to role claim it's Hiryuu but it's too soon to decide, he might be like Kasra last time.
Personally, I want to hear Whitefang, Sleeve, NoRice4U and all the others who haven't posted yet. The start is always slow, but if people keep posting things will eventually build up. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 01:08:01
Syrn seems to be out to get Retro. Seems to me like he may be drawing attention away from himself.
Then again he is obviously not afraid to post. Could be some of the ones that haven't posted for fear of being figured out. Still I'm watching you Syrn -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 01:17:43
ok..
the reason i wasn't posting yet was because i was just reading over the posts like 10 times to see how each one of you would say if you were mafia. Syrn suspected hiryuu. by reading his post, it makes sense. but i thought Syrn could be a mafia for suspecting someone that fast, but my mind changed when hiryuu didn't even try to defend himself. thats weird. i'm not saying anyone anyone is mafia..yet, but i do want to see hiryuu trying to defend himself -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 02:45:51
I wonder where Eriror is. Someone with such a high status is bound to have been on the site since the game started... but yet no posts
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 02:56:30
how am i supposed to defend myself? whatever i say can be construed to be fake if everyone wishes it. if i come out saying i am mafia or townie, will everyone really believe it?
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 03:22:35
Exactly, thus you must defend yourself with proof unless you're special, don't say it make it subtly known.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 03:25:28
at least there is a suspect now (me lol). anyways, i would like to hear others before we do something drastic.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 04:24:02QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 7 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Syrn seems to be out to get Retro. Seems to me like he may be drawing attention away from himself. Then again he is obviously not afraid to post. Could be some of the ones that haven't posted for fear of being figured out. Still I'm watching you Syrn
I commend you for stating your opinion (like many at this point seem to be afraid to do)! There is something that you did however that is exactly what i don't like to see. You made possibly the most vague and lackluster reason i can think of on why i should be the suspect. You played the old and overused "your drawing attention away from yourself" card. Okay, first of all you played the card totally wrong. People say that when someone has accused them and then later they accuse someone else to divert attention away from themselves. At the point you posted there was no obvious reason for me to need to divert attention, i merely stated my opinion.
On another note you are really gonna have to do a lot of convincing to convince everybody that I'm "out to get Retro." If your really gonna try and argue this point or any point for that matter i urge you to give reasoning and quotes to back it up. Good luck with coming up with a solid basis for that. Consider the following statement in your argument, you can quote me on it: I am not out to get Retro. I can see that you might interpret one thing that i said in a negative light towards Retro. I said "Whats your reasoning for lynching the weak Retro? What constitutes weak?" To explain, I wanted him to seriously elaborate on what it meant. If you think that i really did understand, than why in my first post and line in mafia did i say "Weak. Not sure what that really means."?
And no, if your wondering, I'm not going to say that you're mafia now, because that would be dumb. Soooo many people when any suspicion falls on them just ignorantly jump the gun at attacking the other person. Im better than that.
Alright, now you can play the "your drawing attention away from yourself" card. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 05:35:05
hmm, good point. As far as I can see, the posts made thus far have not givin any proof needed for a strong conviction. We will just have to wait and see. There are still plenty of hours left in the day.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 07:37:25QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 8 2008, 03:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wonder where Eriror is. Someone with such a high status is bound to have been on the site since the game started... but yet no posts
Someone with such a high status isn't bound to have a personal life?
Invincibleman sounds a bit awkward with saying Syrn is out to get Retro, while he actually defended him. Hiryuukatana is just jumping on the bandwagon, and the rest doesn't quite jump to conclusions yet. I don't have a suspect myself yet, too...
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 10:59:37
After reading through the threads a number of times, I must say I highly suspect Invincible man. He seems to be suttlely there in the background merrily posting away suggesting we wait and be patient. I think he's a slow-playing mafia.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 12:36:54
You suspect him 'cause he suggested to wait? Who here DIDN'T suggest to wait(or implied on so due to the fact we know absolutely nothing)?
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 15:37:04
Yes I was just saying that as far as I could tell. I couldn't find any body so far that I could tell was Mafia scum.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 16:01:20QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 8 2008, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes I was just saying that as far as I could tell. I couldn't find any body so far that I could tell was Mafia scum.
Even this post here makes me yet more suspicious of you... The very way you construct your posts just makes you sound like you are mafia! Mafia scum? You try to distance yourself from the mafia by insulting them. Commenting on the absence of Eriror, perhaps trying to get it known who is and isn't active in order that they are voted off instead of yourself. You're also slow-playing and this makes you yet more suspicious.
No-one has been wanting to ask role-claims just yet out of fear they might be called mafia for wanting early role claims, but I really don't care - Someone has to be the first to want one...
I want a role claim from you Invincible man! -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 17:40:20
Where is everyone? People need to start posting on this game won't move. Zombo will end up making this day a No lynch day and the Mafia will start killing us off.
Let's get this game started people! -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 17:56:41
hiryu was a bit rush with his 'challenge' to retro. there is no need for that in first post.
and i don't get why Syrn and Invincibleman are mentioning any special status?! -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 18:51:24
Everybody has posted at least once: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...=who&t=4378
~31 hours remaining, a decision on whether extension will be granted or not will be made available when only 24 hours remain. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 19:50:35
Personally, I think Syrn is doing one hell of a time of getting suspicions set where he wants. Wether this is an action of a town leader or mafia scum, I don't know. Just putting an idea out.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 19:59:21
So... everyone post who you want claims from...
*yawn*
Mats: InvincibleMan
Retro: Mats/Eriror/Teatime/Syrn
Perhaps we can agree upon someone in the next 31 hours. And then we'll lynch someone's ass. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:08:27
How about everyone start posting some more?
meh, I guess we have to start applying pressure somehow so:
M3x_spinner, Whitefang, Syrn, Hiryuu
Here's a bunch of people. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:14:49
Fine, I hate pointing fingers, but Syrn, Hiryuu, and Mats.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:16:07
Syrn and Hiryu
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:24:45
do you mean applying pressure as in getting votes?
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:27:26
What do you see it as Hiryuu?
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:30:42
It seems like Syrn and Hiruu are winning right now.
hiryuu, we have to push the game along or else the mafia will do it for us >_<.
It's better to lynch randomly then to not lynch at all. Keyword RANDOMLY. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:41:27
Indubididly Retro, so let's get this thing going before the mafia attack in our sleep.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:44:37
applying pressure means voting for someone in my book. i feel that retro is right. im not trying to get out of anything so yeah, i am a viable lynch target just like everyone else and i say lynch randomly. i don't suspect sleeve as much as he is only naming people that we should continue to investigate. he hasn't come out and blatantly asked for a role claim but then again, he could be implying as much. i think minche is not mafia as she only named two people which is reasonable enough. also, there are more people gunning for syrn than for me. why is that so?
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:46:11
I'd like claims from Teatime and Invincibleman
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:50:49
I think everyone should just start making role claims rather than argue about it.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 20:57:42
It's too weird at the moment if you ask me. There's nothing to base any decisions so it seems like every person I ask for a role claim is just a shot in the dark.
I think we should apply pressure using votes to try and see how things roll from people's responses to the votes and the defenses, and then decide on role claims. Asking random role claims seems like a waste to me.QUOTE (Sleeve @ Mar 8 2008, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think everyone should just start making role claims rather than argue about it.
Sleeve only 2 role claims are allowed per day. You want to waste them randomly, or do you want to use them on someone who is actually suspicious of something? -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 21:08:24QUOTE (Teatime @ Mar 8 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's too weird at the moment if you ask me. There's nothing to base any decisions so it seems like every person I ask for a role claim is just a shot in the dark.
I think we should apply pressure using votes to try and see how things roll from people's responses to the votes and the defenses, and then decide on role claims. Asking random role claims seems like a waste to me.
Yeah, and then when like 3 or 4 people are voting for that guy, the mafia jumps on it and lynches him, taking rid of a townie? -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 21:11:06QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Mar 8 2008, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah, and then when like 3 or 4 people are voting for that guy, the mafia jumps on it and lynches him, taking rid of a townie?
Obviously you don't vote to near lynch level, 2-3 vote usually work, at least that's what I saw in the previous games.
I believe Kensai did a pretty good analysis of it in the first game. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 21:59:14QUOTE (minche @ Mar 8 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hiryu was a bit rush with his 'challenge' to retro. there is no need for that in first post.
and i don't get why Syrn and Invincibleman are mentioning any special status?!
Ok just in response to this alone, i really have no idea where your going with this idea of mentioning "special status." I dont know where you got the idea in the first place, its not true, the only time ive mentioned the idea of special roles would be here "If it were hand picked, I can't speak for Retro of course, but since Eriror is a highly acclaimed spinner, he may or may not have a special role depending on if Zombo decided to be tricky, or so obvious you don't think it could be true." this quote was in response to how the roles were picked because i posted before i saw Zombo's answer that it was random. that quote was just a theoretical situation.
My next quote where i mention special roles is this: "Ok first of all to Retro, please dont claim your role, the mafia wants you to claim your role so they can be closer to killing the special roles, giving them an advantage." this was because i didn't want him to unnecessarily reveal his role when there wasn't a need because unnecessary role claims can help the mafia. Now, a bit later in the game, and after everyone has posted, role claims from certain people may be necessary if they have their life on the line for instance.
This statement was a totally irrational statement towards me that I still don't get. Still, people don't seem to get the point of actually backing up your posts with evidence.QUOTE (Sleeve @ Mar 8 2008, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Personally, I think Syrn is doing one hell of a time of getting suspicions set where he wants. Wether this is an action of a town leader or mafia scum, I don't know. Just putting an idea out.
Getting suspicions where i want? I'm sorry that some people, well, used to agree with me. Maybe because I'm one of the only people thats not lazy, and actually takes my time to think and give the community a good reason for what i say. Its not my fault that i think everything out and explain it clearly. If you dont want to listen im not stopping you, in fact i don't exactly expect you to listen, its your choice whether you take anything i say to heart, and if people did, then thats beyond my limits. And just to clear things up I've only noted one suspicion, thus far and thats Hiryuu. By the time this post is finished you'll here some more suspicions, but I never accused Invincible man, in fact i said "And no, if your wondering, I'm not going to say that you're mafia now, because that would be dumb. Soooo many people when any suspicion falls on them just ignorantly jump the gun at attacking the other person. Im better than that." Ill say it again, i only accused one person.QUOTE (Retro-spectre @ Mar 8 2008, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So... everyone post who you want claims from...
*yawn*
Mats: InvincibleMan
Retro: Mats/Eriror/Teatime/Syrn
Perhaps we can agree upon someone in the next 31 hours. And then we'll lynch someone's ass.QUOTE (Teatime @ Mar 8 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How about everyone start posting some more?
meh, I guess we have to start applying pressure somehow so:
M3x_spinner, Whitefang, Syrn, Hiryuu
Here's a bunch of people.
The above people haven't even stated a reason for why they believe I'm mafia. I think they just got their reasons from Minche and Sleeve(who got the idea from Minche).
I still believe that Hiryuu is mafia. He came in and giving no basis, immediately asked for a role claim from Retro, he was as Eriror said "just jumping on the bandwagon." Also as Whitefang said "i thought Syrn could be a mafia for suspecting someone that fast, but my mind changed when hiryuu didn't even try to defend himself." Still Hiryuu has yet to defend himself, and is almost accepting the fact that he is a suspect.
I think the only reason Minche tried to get people to blame me is because he is mafia as well, and i posed a threat to the mafia when I suspected Hiryuu. This theory that Hiryuu and Minche are a team is further proven in his recent statement defending Minche. He said "i think minche is not mafia as she only named two people which is reasonable enough." WTF!? i really dont get it, There is no correlation between how many people you suspect/want role claims to being a mafia person yourself. Ok then, so going by your logic, i have only two suspects, so therefore im not mafia. This statement is possibly the worst crafted reason to excuse someone, it really doesn't make sense and seems to show that Hiryuu is mafia alongside Minche.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 22:05:05
Oh, i almost forgot.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 22:29:48
I don't have a reason to suspect you of being Mafia. There's really not importance to my "people who I want to role claim" message because role claiming at this point so blindly, like I stated in my last post, is a waste and just helps the Mafia, like you said.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 22:33:06
I vote Syrn for role claim.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 22:36:48
So can we all agree Syrn and Teatime should role claim right now?
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 22:40:25
I agree on Syrn, but how did you get Teatime?
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 22:52:05
if i and minche were a team, would i really have said that out loud? no, i am only saying what i think. so, syrn, are you saying that teatime and invinceableman are a team because teatime defended invinceableman? also, why didn't you respond to retro's post here
QUOTEIt seems like Syrn and Hiruu are winning right now.
hiryuu, we have to push the game along or else the mafia will do it for us >_<.
It's better to lynch randomly then to not lynch at all. Keyword RANDOMLY.
are retro and i a "team" as well? are sleeve and i a team too because we agree that you should role claim now? -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 22:55:32
Good point Hiryuu...
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 23:29:24
Okay Syrn, role claim.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 23:47:42
Sleeve edited his post.
and i do want role claims from Syrn and Retro/Mats
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 00:03:28QUOTE (Sleeve @ Mar 8 2008, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I agree on Syrn, but how did you get Teatime?
sleeve, don't edit your post.
Vote Count:
hiryuukatana- 1 (Syrn)
Not voting (11): WhiteFang, Retro-Spectre, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Mats, NoRice4U, Teatime, Eriror, Sleeve, Invicibleman
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 00:05:38QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Mar 8 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sleeve edited his post.
and i do want role claims from Syrn and Retro/Mats
not suspecting anyone but just want to make sure some that they are townie.(or mafia)
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 00:12:46
yea but if i lie and say i'm from xx. then the person from xx will know that im a mafia.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 00:25:15
Fine i will unveil my role later tonight but im at a friends house and i have an unfinished post i need to make that is at home and i dont want to role claim without that post.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 00:54:04
Uh........................
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 03:44:01
so whose role claiming? Syrn and ..?
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 05:26:21
@Hiryuukatana, You assume that I am equating agreeing/supporting with the word team, when i am not. The examples you gave especially the last example where you explicitly stated how you felt that i agreeing is tied to being a team "are retro and i a "team" as well? are sleeve and i a team too because we agree that you should role claim now?" see, here, you said it yourself, you posed the question about if you're a team because you agree. The quick answer is no.
Also Teatime and Invincibleman are different, Teatime was indirectly defending invincibleman anyway, his defense included defending invincibleman because he said "You suspect him 'cause he suggested to wait? Who here DIDN'T suggest to wait(or implied on so due to the fact we know absolutely nothing)?" he was defending Invincibleman but at the same token was talking about defending anyone else who suggested we wait a bit. His defense was more an argument about a concept. He disagreed with the concept Mats chose to go by, and therefore spoke up while what you are doing with Minche is more personal.
You and Minche have a history of defending each other as well. At first glance it may not seem apparent, because Minche never specifically defended you, but she did introduce me as target in light of Hiryuu being accused. Her first post was saying "hiryu was a bit rush with his 'challenge' to retro. there is no need for that in first post. and i don't get why Syrn and Invincibleman are mentioning any special status?!" This while on the second page was a response to mostly the first page as evidenced in the line talking about the rush to challenge retro. You may say that oh, she was not defending you because she said what you did was wrong. I think this is just her way of trying to hide her reasoning for picking a new target. likewise you were trying to hide your reasoning by asking "if i and minche were a team, would i really have said that out loud?" well yes, you would want to try and take my any suspicions off of her and rule her out, and the only way to do that is by speaking, outloud. i dont think you anticipated anyone figuring out your scheme, and thats why you say in hind sight that you wouldnt have said it outloud because it would be too obvious. I think you were just trying to be subtle about it, to rule out any suspicions of Minche.
even if im all wrong about everything else i said, the one thing that stays true is that your reasoning for disregarding Minche does NOT make sense. Hiryuu said "i think minche is not mafia as she only named two people which is reasonable enough." seriously i still think thats a weak reason, and heres another thing you stated "i am a viable lynch target just like everyone else and i say lynch randomly" yah, ok like i believe you mean that. really? You sure you didnt mean everyone except Minche, because later in your paragraph as i quoted above, you mentioned that "minche is not mafia". You sure your still counting her as a "viable lynch target". i dont think so. And i wont believe you if you said otherwise because whats been said is said and you contradicted yourself just to make an exception for minche. you know what else i find funny...this statement by you in the same paragraph, it was about sleeve and why he wasnt suspected as much because "he hasn't come out and blatantly asked for a role claim." But you know who did? right? YOU! "yeah, come on retro. why don't you tell us your role?". people may say oh Syrn you're accusing too early, it doesnt matter, a lot of character can be expressed even through one sentence no matter when it was said. In fact some people may say that your early actions are very important.
You also asked why i didnt respond to a quote by Retro...what am i supposed to do respond to every single post thats been said? havn't i responded to more than most, if not everyone? ok you really want me to respond? fine have it your way but i didn't find the post particularly compelling. yeah blah blah blah he updated everyone on who he thinks is leading in votes for role claims...Retro said we have to move the game along to kill at least someone and doesn't want a no lynch, and the final thing he said is that we should do it randomly. I don't agree it should be random because i think that it is possible to boil it down using some reasoning. Thats the way people play later on in the game, by reasoning, but the game as a whole is not a game of sole chance so i think it can be narrowed down just like it can in the later parts of the game. There i don't agree with random choosing. Its dumb luck to do that and thats not the nature of the game, its a game of reasoning.
The moment you've been waiting for, drum roll please... I am a board representative from JEB. -
Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 05:33:57
1 role claim remaining this day.
PS: minche is a lady, you might want to refer to her as such to avoid confusion in your posts.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 05:42:10
i cant edit it, i tried to double check myself, idk if your allowed but can you edit it to clear it up and it will just be cleaning up the hes and shes. probably too much to ask sorry. sorry about the mix-ups in the post, i if you need clarification just ask.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 05:45:33
I feel that the game is getting somewhere, but that 24 hours might not be enough to resolve it. An additional 24 hours has been granted, with further consideration tomorrow.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 05:51:57
I've edited your post
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 05:54:26
okay syrn. ill role claim too then. i am a board representative from Swespin.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 06:03:05
wtf..why did you role claim..
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 06:32:14
i did it so that i can show syrn that i am a townie. assuming that both of us are innocent, that lowers the guessing rate of who to kill. if one of us dies during the night, then i hope we assume that the other is innocent and will carry on. i guess im relying on pure chance then...also, don't assume that we are both mafia working together because that means according to syrn, retro, sleeve, syrn, and minche may also be potential mafia. by role claiming, i hope to clear myself, syrn, retro, and sleeve. that means that the number of suspects will go down. note...im not trying to draw attention away from myself, only to give my reasoning.
also, by not stating minche, it doesn't mean that i think she will be free from suspicion as syrn thinks that we are subtly protecting each other. it is just that by the posts made before, these are the people who have supported me. also, by syrn's logic, it shows that if i asked retro for a role claim, it may be that i was attempting to cover up for him. apparently, syrn has not made that connection. he has only made the one between minche and me. asking for two role claims is reasonable and this satisfies minche's appeal shown hereQUOTESyrn and Hiryu
now what?
is minche mafia?
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 08:45:03
Why is no-one here mentioning Invincibleman? Have you noticed since my accusations of him he has shut up and tried to vanish into the background? Something is really up with that guy... A role claim is not even required here... Even if you disagree with my analysis of his posts, ya'll agree we need to lynch someone. Why not make it the guy who seems to have all the traits of being mafia?
Vote: Invincibleman -
Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 09:11:50
that makes sense..
if he doesn't come up if any defense in next 4 hours i'll vote for him too.. -
Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 12:43:53
Vote: Invincibleman
i'm going to sleep. i won't be able to post in about 16 hours.. -
Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 13:16:25
0 role claim remaining!
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 2 (Mats, WhiteFang)
hiryuukatana- 1 (Syrn)
Not voting (9): Retro-Spectre, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, NoRice4U, Teatime, Eriror, Sleeve, Invicibleman
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 14:47:44
sorry, i wasn't able to reply earlier, i did read the posts on my mobile phone.
now, about that special status that i asked about, i was just wondering why would you ask that when it clearly says that this game is purely fictional.QUOTE (Syrn @ Mar 8 2008, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Teatime @ Mar 8 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How about everyone start posting some more?
meh, I guess we have to start applying pressure somehow so:
M3x_spinner, Whitefang, Syrn, Hiryuu
Here's a bunch of people.
The above people haven't even stated a reason for why they believe I'm mafia. I think they just got their reasons from Minche and Sleeve(who got the idea from Minche).
i really don't know how would they get reasons from me, because i didn't stated a single reason against you, and i posted only one post before that.
i'm not going to vote for anyone yet, because there is still some players we need to hear more from (NoRice4U, m3x_spinner, Erirornal K., Invincibleman ...)
i probably won't be able to post anything by tomorrow(just to let you know
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 15:11:05
I did not shut up and vanish I have been away from my computer from about 4:30 p.m until about 2:00 p.m. If you want to know I was visiting my Great Grandmother, and didn't get back until about 2:00 so I didn't really feel like being online. And the fact that I said that we should wait was because we did not know anything. If people had started voting it would have been likely that they killed a townie. I don't see how any of my posts have led anyone to believe that I was mafia.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 16:11:34
Your diction says it all.
No one capitalizes 'great grandmother'.
Nah, but in all seriousness, you say things like "mafia scum". And that's really strange.
And it's really strange that minche mentioned you at the end of her little list:
(NoRice4U, m3x_spinner, Erirornal K., Invincibleman ...)
See, most people who were mafia would probably do something like that, on the contrary, most people believe that most mafia would put him at the FRONT of the list. The smart ones suspect the middle people too.
But, who knows? I'm probably overanalyzing.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 17:17:05
i was just placing them according to this list: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...=who&t=4378
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 17:40:06
Does everyone agree that its not Hiryuukatana? Even though he role claimed, many people haven't spoken since the incident. Another thing is since there are no more claims available in the day if there was someone who otherwise would have counter-claimed he/she cannot do so.
Also, i hope you can excuse some of my statements earlier which may seem irrational now because we're farther in the game. Its just that as part of the game, I'm always coming up with new theories that may or may not make sense to everyone, but they are always based off the current evidence. There are people I want to look further into, and i hope that if i was wrong about some of my other theories that i am not now unworthy of giving a valid theory because i made a bad call in the past. I would hope for everyone to speak, so someone could at least hint at a counter-claim if thats what they want to do in response to the role claims.
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Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 17:52:08QUOTE (Syrn @ Mar 9 2008, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does everyone agree that its not Hiryuukatana? Even though he role claimed, many people haven't spoken since the incident. Another thing is since there are no more claims available in the day if there was someone who otherwise would have counter-claimed he/she cannot do so.
Also, i hope you can excuse some of my statements earlier which may seem irrational now because we're farther in the game. Its just that as part of the game, I'm always coming up with new theories that may or may not make sense to everyone, but they are always based off the current evidence. There are people I want to look further into, and i hope that if i was wrong about some of my other theories that i am not now unworthy of giving a valid theory because i made a bad call in the past. I would hope for everyone to speak, so someone could at least hint at a counter-claim if thats what they want to do in response to the role claims.
Should we consider prodding someone who really hasn't said much at all?
counter-claims are unlimited, read the rules. -
Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 17:58:54
Yeah i did, i didn't realize that by "Counter-claims are always allowed" you meant that they can be done at at any time. I thought it just served to remind you that counter-claims are something that are allowed and always welcomed in the game.
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 02:25:13
talks seem to have slowed down again...
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 3 (Mats, WhiteFang, Retro-Spectre)
hiryuukatana- 1 (Syrn)
Not voting (8): m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, NoRice4U, Teatime, Eriror, Sleeve, Invicibleman
7 to lynch.
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 13:47:28
Input/Defense plx?
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 14:53:44
Vote Syrn
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 19:09:43
Sleeve why'd you ask for a role claim if your not gonna believe it? Haven't i proved myself enough? You gave no basis, neither counter-claim nor reason to why my role claim should be false, you just voted. I dont know what to make of it yet, but you're making yourself look very suspicious. Whatever, this thread is so dead there hasnt even been time to see if anyone will counter-claim. I havent changed my vote after the role claims because there hasn't been enough talk yet to have another solid suspicion, while you just came out and voted after I role claimed JEB representive, with no reason.
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 19:46:59
Sleeve, so you're saying you're the JEB rep?
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 20:01:07
Yeah, he said that on page 4.
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 20:15:56
Sleeve didn't post on Page 4... I'm confused...
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 20:51:53
Oh nevermind, I'm being stupid. I thought you were talking about Syrn.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 00:43:37
Time check Zombo? Also i haven't heard from m3x_spinner and Norice4u...whats up with that?
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 01:47:03
Because I have been reading what's going on.
I'm still unclear on my decision though. -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 02:55:41
I suggest you guys start requesting prod inactive players...
I'll give you guys another 24 hours to see how the situation develop... too many ppl have not spoken after the role claims. -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 03:55:36
I haven't been replying but I've been reading.
Vote - Invincibleman -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 06:46:39
common people vote!!we don't have much time left..and noone is talking.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 11:09:59
Sorry for not replying for so long, had a busy couple of days.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 11:26:51QUOTEI did not shut up and vanish I have been away from my computer from about 4:30 p.m until about 2:00 p.m. If you want to know I was visiting my Great Grandmother, and didn't get back until about 2:00 so I didn't really feel like being online. And the fact that I said that we should wait was because we did not know anything. If people had started voting it would have been likely that they killed a townie. I don't see how any of my posts have led anyone to believe that I was mafia.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 11:36:44
I think that was his:"Why I didn't post" defense, not his:"Omg I'm about to be lynched" defense.
Even Retro is waiting for a defense:QUOTEInput/Defense plx? -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 11:56:31
i wouldn't say waiting for a defense since he voted for him anywayz. but i do want to hear his defense aswell
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 13:19:37
It's called applying pressure. What reason does he have to defend himself unless he's close to being lynched by vote pressure?
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 15:39:38
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 4 (Mats, WhiteFang, Retro-Spectre, NoRice4U)
hiryuukatana- 1 (Syrn)
Syrn- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (6): m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Teatime, Eriror, Invicibleman
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 20:23:52
VOTE: Invinceableman
time to put the pressure on...
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 20:40:18QUOTE (Teatime @ Mar 11 2008, 07:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think that was his:"Why I didn't post" defense, not his:"Omg I'm about to be lynched" defense.
Even Retro is waiting for a defense:
O.k. sorry for not replying for so long. I just haven't had the time. Here is my OMG I am about to be lynched defense.
I still do not see what I have done to make myself suspicious. I have chosen to vote so late because I was still not sure who I thought was Mafia. It would appear to me that the people who voted early are more suspicious. They quickly find someone to go after and vote for them even though they have no reason to back it up. Retro came after me after a grammatical error in one of my posts, and then voted for me. What does my diction have to do with any thing. I believe that Retro was trying to lead people into voting for me by pointing out simple errors in my posts. While trying to stop people from voting for herself.
VOTE-RETRO-SPECTRE -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 21:46:49
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 5 (Mats, WhiteFang, Retro-Spectre, NoRice4U, hiryuukatana)
Retro-Spectre- 1 (Invicibleman)
hiryuukatana- 1 (Syrn)
Syrn- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (4): m3x_spinner, minche, Teatime, Eriror
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 22:06:06
now we are in a state of either lynching invicibleman or lynching someone else if others retract their votes. what do the nonvoters think as it is their decision as of right now? if invicibleman does not convince anyone, will we go through with it? im sure that 5 votes is a lot of pressure right now.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 22:35:21
I think Mats has been taking Invincibleman’s post way out of proportion, and I think he is mafia.
I’m going to put a large amount of quotes here to show what’s been said. It’s not everything they said but it is what’s relevant.QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 7 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wonder where Eriror is. Someone with such a high status is bound to have been on the site since the game started... but yet no postsQUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 8 2008, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm, good point. As far as I can see, the posts made thus far have not givin any proof needed for a strong conviction. We will just have to wait and see. There are still plenty of hours left in the day.QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 8 2008, 06:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>After reading through the threads a number of times, I must say I highly suspect Invincible man. He seems to be suttlely there in the background merrily posting away suggesting we wait and be patient. I think he's a slow-playing mafia.
While he did suggest we wait, he wasn’t saying not to vote period. Invincibleman seems to just have said at that point in time that he didn’t have any solid reasons yet for picking somebody out. He said “we will just have to wait and see†this probably was just referring to him needing more posts before he made a decision. As you put it he is “posting away suggesting we wait…†but the only other times he has mentioned waiting, even thus far, has been solely in response to your accusation.QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 8 2008, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes I was just saying that as far as I could tell. I couldn't find any body so far that I could tell was Mafia scum.QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 8 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Even this post here makes me yet more suspicious of you... The very way you construct your posts just makes you sound like you are mafia! Mafia scum? You try to distance yourself from the mafia by insulting them. Commenting on the absence of Eriror, perhaps trying to get it known who is and isn't active in order that they are voted off instead of yourself. You're also slow-playing and this makes you yet more suspicious.
No-one has been wanting to ask role-claims just yet out of fear they might be called mafia for wanting early role claims, but I really don't care - Someone has to be the first to want one...
I want a role claim from you Invincible man!
Here we have it, probably one of the most deciding posts for what I believe. Mats has tried to pick apart everything Invincibleman said and make it seem like he’s mafia, but the reasons are not strong enough for me. Alright, mafia scum, yes it’s a weird term to use, but it would, and is going way too far to say he’s mafia because he used the term. I can’t believe that Mats went as far to incorporate his post about Eriror not posting. If you look at Invincibleman's profile that’s his favorite spinner, and like me, he just wanted to hear what he’d say. Invincibleman didn’t try to get people to vote for Eriror, and he said that before anyone had any suspicion of him, or even mentioned Invincibleman as a suspect, so you can’t accuse him of trying to take the spotlight off himself. Mats has tried to reiterate that Invincibleman is a slow-playing mafia but he only mentioned waiting once(aside from responding to accusations). It was for good reason, he didn’t want to vote blindly.QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 9 2008, 04:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why is no-one here mentioning Invincibleman? Have you noticed since my accusations of him he has shut up and tried to vanish into the background? Something is really up with that guy... A role claim is not even required here... Even if you disagree with my analysis of his posts, ya'll agree we need to lynch someone. Why not make it the guy who seems to have all the traits of being mafia?
Vote: Invincibleman
Seems to have all the traits of mafia? If you’re going to talk about commenting on the absence of someone as a mafia trait, then you did it more so than Invincibleman. If you’re going to count that as a mafia trait, then doesn’t that include you too? Or are you exempt from that? Yes we do need to lynch someone, and I’d like to go with the guy who has the most traits of being mafia. Mats likely didn’t think a role claim was required because he didn’t want it to be revealed in his claim that he is a legitimate town member. Not to say that it is impossible for Invincibleman to be mafia but for now I can’t help but to think it’s the one with the invalid accusations. Mats has come up with pretty much bogus ideas and I am more suspicious of someone who accuses for lame reasons to make sure the vote is a townie, than someone who is supposedly mafia because he said “mafia scumâ€.QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 9 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I did not shut up and vanish I have been away from my computer from about 4:30 p.m until about 2:00 p.m. If you want to know I was visiting my Great Grandmother, and didn't get back until about 2:00 so I didn't really feel like being online. And the fact that I said that we should wait was because we did not know anything. If people had started voting it would have been likely that they killed a townie. I don't see how any of my posts have led anyone to believe that I was mafia.
I don’t see how any of Invincibleman’s posts add up to being mafia either and at this point I feel he is a townie. Mats has been taking posts and twisting the words to create accusations that are not very solid and supported. My biggest problem, and the point at which I realized this manipulation was being done was when he turned Invincibleman’s post about where Eriror has been, into a post that is taking away the attention from himself and blaming the absent. What really maddens me is why Mats later turned around and did the exact same thing that he was accusing Invincibleman for doing, commenting on the absence of someone in order to get them lynched.
UNVOTE : Hiryuukatana
VOTE : Mats
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 01:54:40
VOTE-Invincibleman
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 02:25:24
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 6 (Mats, WhiteFang, Retro-Spectre, NoRice4U, hiryuukatana, m3x_spinner)
Retro-Spectre- 1 (Invicibleman)
Mats- 1 (Syrn)
Syrn- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (3): minche, Teatime, Eriror
7 to lynch.
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 06:23:19
All right, here's my take on things:
I have to agree with Syrn at this point. I have been reading through the last pages a couple of times and I haven't really found any basis to the accusations on Invincibleman besides what Mats and Retro threw, which is why I didn't vote for him straight away. Right now there are people who seem far more suspicious then him:
Mats- Pointed out Invicibleman for no real apparent reason, making him a suspect of foul play...
Sleeve- Voted Syrn without counter claiming. If Counter Claiming can be done at any point, why didn't he do it? Also, it seems to me like Syrn will have to be incredibly stupid to claim JEB when he's not, since that's perhaps the biggest spinning community there is. Obviously some townie will get it, and lying to be from JEB seems like suicide.
M3x_Spinner- Remember what Eriror said about Mafia jumping up and eliminating a townie while we're only applying pressure? That seems exactly what he's doing. He voted for Invincibleman without posting any reasoning, and hasn't been generally active at all. If anyone here is a slow playing Mafia, it's him.
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 07:33:55
what Syrn said is true. thats why i wanted role claim from him.
Invicibleman: why did you vote for Retro when mats is the one who suspected you ? -
Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 08:41:16
Both of them suspected me for no reason. I was suspicious of both of them, but Retro seemed more like mafia.
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 08:59:54
VOTE: Mats
i agree with Syrn's post, i don't see how could have any of Invincibleman's posts make him have all the traits of being mafia. Mats accused Invincibleman for slow-playing and his inactivity, while not accusing any other inactive player. Mats accusations are just unreasonable. -
Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 14:35:19QUOTE (Teatime @ Mar 12 2008, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>M3x_Spinner- Remember what Eriror said about Mafia jumping up and eliminating a townie while we're only applying pressure? That seems exactly what he's doing. He voted for Invincibleman without posting any reasoning, and hasn't been generally active at all. If anyone here is a slow playing Mafia, it's him.
If you ask me, these 3 seem like a perfect Mafia line up.
UNVOTE Syrn
VOTE M3x_Spinner -
Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 16:45:29
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 6 (Mats, WhiteFang, Retro-Spectre, NoRice4U, hiryuukatana, m3x_spinner)
Mats- 2 (Syrn, minche)
Retro-Spectre- 1 (Invicibleman)
m3x_spinner- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (2): Teatime, Eriror
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 16:49:20
Uh, Zbo, wtf! I voted invincibleMan... why does it say Invicible man? that fool should be lynched right now. (at school)
QUOTE (minche @ Mar 12 2008, 04:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>VOTE: Mats
i agree with Syrn's post, i don't see how could have any of Invincibleman's posts make him have all the traits of being mafia. Mats accused Invincibleman for slow-playing and his inactivity, while not accusing any other inactive player. Mats accusations are just unreasonable.
I was expecting this.
Lynch InvincibleMan! He ain't invincible.
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 04:25:11
UNVOTE: Invicibleman
VOTE: Retro-Spectre -
Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 05:04:55
is it safe to say that those who had the option of lynching invicibleman but did not are potential mafia members?
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 05:11:40
I don't know if it's safe to say that. But according to the posts in this topic, I do not see a reason for myself to vote for Invincibleman at the moment. I might regret this, but I might also regret voting for him. I'm more a suspect of at least Mats and m3x, though. Just look at what m3x has done. He just votes, and doesn't give any reason.
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 05:11:56QUOTE (hiryuukatana @ Mar 13 2008, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is it safe to say that those who had the option of lynching invicibleman but did not are potential mafia members?
Do you think Syrn is Mafia too then?
I think it's rather stupid to say that given that there are no good reasons to vote off invincibleman. The only reason we have is one(or two) guy's random whim. -
Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 05:18:49
i only voted in order to place pressure upon invicibleman but it seems now that the argument against him is weakening so i may retract my vote. in the meantime...we either lynch before the day ends or this day ends in a no lynch. who thinks lynching randomly outweighs potential lynching of a town member?
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 14:28:49
Everything is going insane-o! XP
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 00:02:52
I will say that it is not certain that Invincibleman is mafia. However, I would say that for the reasons I have already mentioned, he seems the most likely to be mafia. It is better to lynch someone rather than no-one and so I believe this guy should go. Then, quite likely, we have taken out a mafia.
I must say I'm becoming quite suspicious of Erirornal K. after looking through his posts thus far in the game too.
But that's for another time. I'm far less suspicious of him than of Invincibleman...
AND WHAT THE FUCK? Syrn... Are you mafia or something?
These are my 3 current candidates... Invincibleman by far the most likely though.
And me, mafia? 
:cheers:
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 00:14:13
this is a very long day.
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 00:28:42
Yeah, so let's fuckin' finish it, jesus christ. Everyone's all side-stepping all the bullshit. No one has publicy called out Syrn or Hiryuu. Either they are making it up (unlikely), or they are telling the truth. So let's fucking eliminate InvincibleMan or someone. My god. We can't determine who is or who isn't Mafia at this point, educated guesses are pointless as the strategies are infinite. Let's just pick someone at random... say... InvincibleMan, and lynch him. Go team?
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 01:47:20
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 5 (Mats, WhiteFang, Retro-Spectre, NoRice4U, hiryuukatana)
Retro-Spectre- 2 (Invicibleman, m3x_spinner)
Mats- 2 (Syrn, minche)
m3x_spinner- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (2): Teatime, Eriror
7 to lynch.
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As long as there are meaningful discussions, this day will not end. If we ever reach a standstill and nobody can be convinced to move, then the day will end in no lynch. -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 02:59:13
@Mats- I'll be mafia if you counter-claim JEB.
Deal? Yeah, thats what I thought. Oh, and is this
"And me, mafia? " your defense?
@Retro- Umm, please...don't abuse the true meaning of random. Lets be honest, you chose Invincibleman for Mats' reasons. You voted for someone based on Mats' educated guesses so why should my theory be any less valid? You've given reasons why you've voted the way you did before, so surely, you cant expect me to believe that you were being random all this time. If you really are being random (which i don't believe), then what do you have against voting for Mats? Nothing, right? I mean if you really are random then you must think its fair to lynch anybody. As you're already set on lynching somebody, regardless of who it is (randomly), then I take it you'll vote for anybody in the lead so that we can end this day and hope that the pick you made based on no logic turns out well. That said, if its true you're voting randomly, then...
come on, everyone who believes it's Mats vote now, so we can get the majority and get Retro's support as well. Unless of course, hes not lynching randomly.
Also everyone voting for Retro might want to consider switching over to Mats because imo its more validated right now, and we will have to sort of join forces if you will, to get rid of someone. I say this because i think most people voting for Retro would also feel that Mats could be Mafia as well because of their similar stance on Invincibleman currently. -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 03:27:34
Syrn, you're one paranoid and deluded mother fucker.
QUOTEyour defense?
My main defence is that I'm simply not mafia. If that isn't good enough for you though, I have other defences such as:
1) Walls
and
2) Armour
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 06:51:17QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 14 2008, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I must say I'm becoming quite suspicious of Erirornal K. after looking through his posts thus far in the game too.
Really, what did I do? Not enough, maybe? -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 07:02:21QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Mar 14 2008, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Really, what did I do? Not enough, maybe?
could be
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 12:04:55QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Mar 14 2008, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Really, what did I do? Not enough, maybe?
Mats seems really good at pointing random fingers, but I have to agree that you need to participate more. I think this is your first post since page 2? That puts you in a very good position for a "slow-playing Mafia", according to Mats' words.
I think it's time to start voting someone, I'll have to go with Mats at this point.
Vote: Mats -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 14:30:52
*Is starting to get unsure and confused* Damn mafia game...Sooooo confusing >.<
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 14:36:46QUOTE (Teatime @ Mar 14 2008, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mats seems really good at pointing random fingers, but I have to agree that you need to participate more. I think this is your first post since page 2? That puts you in a very good position for a "slow-playing Mafia", according to Mats' words.
I think it's time to start voting someone, I'll have to go with Mats at this point.
Vote: Mats
Uuuuh, no. This would be my 8th post in total. How about NoRice4U, and the likes? He only has 2 posts. m3x_spinner only has 4 posts, of which 2 were votes without any explanation. I wouldn't be looking at the persons who have been posting less, though. At the first Mafia Game, Joshua was really active and 'helpful', but he actually was Mafia. =/ I don't believe Syrn to be Mafia though, as no one has counterclaimed him being from JEB yet.
So Mats, what makes me a suspect? -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 16:11:17QUOTESo Mats, what makes me a suspect?
LOL!
So far you haven't put a foot wrong. I don't really think you are mafia...
Spoiler:
Oh and STOP VOTING FOR ME!!!
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Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 12:56:25
seems like we reached a standstill, day will end tonight if nothing happens.
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Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 13:07:01
com'on guy. are you going to sit here and wait until one of us dies?
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Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 16:07:49
Everyone is tired of waiting and Invincibleman seems to be the chief suspect. I say we just vote him all off and see what happens in the next day
*all just vote him off
Terrible word ordering. -
Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 16:14:38
Yes, it's better to lynch a townie than to lynch no one.
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Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 21:09:10QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 15 2008, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Everyone is tired of waiting and Invincibleman seems to be the chief suspect. I say we just vote him all off and see what happens in the next day
*all just vote him off
Terrible word ordering.
i hate to say this but yeah we have to do it. there is already a good amount of votes for invicibleman and it doesn't seem apparent that anyone will quickly change their vote. so...all for invicibleman? -
Date: Sun, Mar 16 2008 00:54:24
Uncertainty
“There are two ways to slide easily through life: to believe everything or to doubt everything; both ways save us from thinking.â€
- Alfred Korzybski
UPSB Laboratories – Boardroom
Day 1
2200
On second thought, the boardroom would make a better place to carry out the executions. It somehow seemed wrong to kill a potentially innocent spinner in front of the banner of Bonkura.
Zombo checked the safety on his revolver before placing it on the table… That was three hours ago! Why were they so damn indecisive? This had dragged on long enough. Zombo cleared his throat. “Ahem. Attention, fellow spinners.†The members ceased squabbling and diverted their attention to Zombo, who sat upright at the head of the table. “I must regretfully concede that we are at an impasse. Reaching a consensus anytime soon is unrealistic, so we will not kill tonight, although the hand of fate had nearly dealt the ace of spades to Invincibleman mere minutes ago.†He glanced over at Invincibleman to see him sweating bullets, apparently still shaken by his near death. Friend or foe, Zombo could understand the unenviable position of the condemned and was grateful for his own impunity.
Zombo ripped the paper used to tally votes off the easel, crumpled it up and threw it into the trash can. It seems like every time I crumple a paper, it also crumples our hopes for the day. “Remember, we can’t deliberate indefinitely. I urge you to read and perceive our enemies. Think harder. Think laterally. Whatever it takes. The longer we stall, the stronger our enemies become. Just remember that you’ll always miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.â€
That’s it; he was out of inspirational talk for the day, plus he was dead tired. “I’m going to get some sleep now, and I suggest you all do the same. I’ll see you all tomorrow,†if you make it through the night he felt like adding as an afterthought but decided against it. With that, he pocketed the gun and walked out of the boardroom, leaving a bewildered group to their own thoughts.
It was pitch black outside but the mysterious figure arduously climbed up the hill, fumbling his way among the rocks. Normally, climbing a hill would be simple, but not while lugging a large, heavy case. He paused momentarily at the peak to catch his breath then set to work, opening the case and assembling its contents. He wiped the sweat from his brow when his cell phone began to vibrate. He read the incoming text message and smiled to himself. This was going to be easier than he thought.
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Thread locked for the night.
Mafia can now communicate privately.
If you have night action(s), PM your choice to me ASAP. I will end the night when I receive everybody's choice. If I don't receive your choice within 48 hours, I will assume you're doing nothing! But to speed up the process, if you choose to do nothing, PM me anyway!
Day 1 has ended in no lynch. -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 00:27:46
Deception
“All war is based on deceptionâ€
- Sun Tzu
UPSB Laboratories – Grounds
Day 1
2350
Retro surveyed the western periphery of the property with his night-vision binoculars. Nothing but hilly terrain on that side. He heaved a sigh of frustration. He knew foul play was afoot and had spent the past hour searching for it fruitlessly. Just as he was about to turn away, a curious object on the peak of one of the hills caught his attention. From here, it looked like… – he zoomed in – a tripod? That’s odd, he thought. Time to investigate.
He hopped into his cruiser and revved the engine. The laboratories were only accessible through a north and south entrance/exit, so he would have to make a wide detour around the fence. Once close to the hills, he cut the engine and parked the car on the side of the road. Leaving the car, he drew his Beretta from his holster. Gun at ready, he quietly approached the hill.
A couple of minutes later, he crested the hill and found the object in question. Indeed, it was a tripod, but what was stranger was the car parked about 10 yards away. Retro smiled. Caught red-handed. His quarry was probably dozing off, unaware of being watched. He walked to the driver’s side and tapped the heavily tinted window. Silence. Something didn’t seem quite right… Reaching over with his free hand, Beretta trained on the window, he pulled the door handle, at which point two things occurred that startled him. Firstly, the door unexpectedly swung open. Secondly, a mannequin fell out of the car, causing Retro to yell out in surprise and involuntarily fire a bullet that shattered the passenger-side window. Now something was definitely wrong. He looked down at the dummy to see a blinking red light at its torso. OH SHI---- *KABOOM!*
The mysterious figure emerged from his crouched stance in the bushes on the opposite side of the car. The boss was impeccably informed. Midnight on the button, no pun intended. He retracted the antenna of his cell, folded the multipurpose phone and stowed it safely in his pocket. No time to indulge. He still had work to do.
UPSB Laboratories – Indoors
Day 2
0730
Zombo had just awoken when his phone rang.
“Hello?â€
“Hello, Zombo. Sleep well?†The male voice was cold and unfamiliar. Even through the phone, Zombo could perceive the caller’s malicious intent.
“Who is --â€
“In due time, Zombo. In due time. But first, I’m sure you’ll find a neat little surprise in the auditorium today.â€
“$*%#*%!â€
Zombo dropped the phone and ran to the auditorium, where the gruesome scene almost made him vomit. A body was hanging from a rope tied around one of the rafters, like a demented puppet. The corpse was burnt beyond identification. Zombo reached into the victim’s pocket and pulled out a wallet. He opened it to find a driver’s license, but it was the police badge that surprised him. Retro-Spectre… This guy was a COP?!
Zombo recalled the note from the previous day, which he had memorized: “We know everything. There is no escape. You will all perish, one by one. This is only the beginning.â€
But was it possible? Did they really know everything?
Reaching into the corpse’s other pocket, he found an ace of spades with writing on it:
â€Yours sincerely, the Hand of Fateâ€
What was that he had said yesterday? “… the hand of fate had nearly dealt the ace of spades to Invincibleman mere minutes ago.†He had obviously meant it as a metaphor, but the killer, with his sick sense of humour, had perversely twisted it into reality in Retro’s case. The ace was disturbing, because it further supported the claim that the killer was, in fact, omniscient.
Zombo knew what to do. He called a meeting for 10:00 am and let the members view the sight for themselves. Some had to excuse themselves, unable to handle the grotesque aftermath, while others looked on in mute shock, but Zombo couldn't think of a more effective way to alert the spinners to the exigency and seriousness of their situation. "As you can see, the Mafia has disposed of our primary - and perhaps only - information source. We will pay severely for every mistake we make, and if you had no prior reason of thinking so, well now you do. The custodial staff will clean up this mess after lunch. Until then, consider the auditorium out-of-bounds. That is all, you are dismissed. "
With that, the members filed out of the room, leaving the banner of Bonkura to watch over the fallen spinner.Written by Tialys
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Active Players:
WhiteFang
m3x_spinner
hiryuukatana -- claims to be a representative for SweSpin
minche
Mats
NoRice4U
Teatime
Eriror
Sleeve
Invicibleman
Syrn -- claims to be a representative for JEB
Eliminated players:
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB
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It is day again. Mafia private communication must cease. Any private information transmitted during the night by the moderator may be shared publicly, provided it is not directly quoted or screenshot.
All votes have been reset.
11 spinners remaining, 6 to lynch. 2 role claims.
Retro-spectre is allowed a death rant, no private details should be released. -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 00:35:33
Ok so I will try and be more active this time.
Does anyone have anything to say against who Hiryuukatana and Syrn claim to represent? -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 00:51:59
You guys are fucking morons.
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 01:57:49QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 6 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>“We know everything. There is no escape. You will all perish, one by one. This is only the beginning.â€
Being that the cop was killed first, i think that this statement might be completely true. It would be a weird set of rules, so I'm not sure if it is true, but this will be crazy if the role of each person is known by the mafia.
I didn't want to vote for Invincibleman because it seemed as Mats targeted him wrongfully and i thought that Mats was trying to find any reason he could to blame him. What pisses me off is that there are people who didn't vote at all.
I don't know if I've been playing the game all wrong or all right. Well, I really can't tell at this point. I am either being too analytical giving me false information by relying on my instincts, or actually giving good advice. There may have been people that had suspicions of Invincibleman or Mats but didn't vote, and because they didn't vote there was no decision made. I don't think it was really that bad to have my own suspicions when i gave reasoning behind it, but what really hurt us is the people who voted almost independently without much reasoning. It is still pretty possible to lynch someone when there is everyone voting, and only two main targets but the other people killed that hope. -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 06:15:35
Role claim from invincible man???
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 06:18:28
damn retro-spectre died. damn.
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 07:06:43
i seriously want role claim from insvincibleman and Mats
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 08:18:39
I refuse to waste a role-claim by taking one myself.
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 08:52:11
hows that wasting a role claim? your on mafia possible list.
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 09:04:22QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Mar 19 2008, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hows that wasting a role claim? your on mafia possible list.
not in my world I'm not. I'd rather use the two role-claims on people who may potentially be mafia than waste one on someone who clearly is not mafia.
Saying that, I'm suddenly not suspicious at all of invincibleman. BECAUSE I JUST NOTICED WHAT BOARD SYRN CLAIMS TO REPRESENT. If you know what I'm saying.
VOTE: Syrn -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 09:14:36
any reason why you didn't do anything in day 1? because its hard to believe that you didn't 'notice' or was that part of your plan..?
btw you need to unvote first..
oh. i seee
dw about what i just said.. -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 14:39:43
I want a role claim from Mats and Invincableman as well...I mean aren't those the people Retro were putting pressure on? I mean it's only right for the mafia to kill the person who was most on their case, right?
Now that I look back it was Invincableman only, but I still want a role claim from both....
I also spelled Invincible wrong XP -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 21:17:37
Mats, do you think that Syrn couldn't be from JEB because of Bonkura? i thought about that too.
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Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 02:45:07
Night narrative will be finished and released approx. 8-9 PM GMT this Thursday.
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Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 06:14:25QUOTE (minche @ Mar 20 2008, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mats, do you think that Syrn couldn't be from JEB because of Bonkura? i thought about that too.
.....
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Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 10:25:44QUOTE ( @ Mar 19 2008, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mats, do you think that Syrn couldn't be from JEB because of Bonkura? i thought about that too.QUOTE (Mats)Saying that, I'm suddenly not suspicious at all of invincibleman. BECAUSE I JUST NOTICED WHAT BOARD SYRN CLAIMS TO REPRESENT. If you know what I'm saying. wink.gif
Err....what? Can someone explain this? :X -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 10:36:22
this is how i understood this/
Mats is counter claiming that he is from JEB. therefore saying that Syrn is a mafia.
i don't know what minche is talking about.. -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 13:52:36QUOTE (Sleeve @ Mar 19 2008, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I want a role claim from Mats and Invincableman as well...I mean aren't those the people Retro were putting pressure on? I mean it's only right for the mafia to kill the person who was most on their case, right?
Now that I look back it was Invincableman only, but I still want a role claim from both....
I also spelled Invincible wrong XP
Does anyone know what special role cop actually means?
Minche, I have no idea what you are talking about...
I'm not 'counter-claiming' I'm from JEB. All I'm saying is, after reading which board syrn claims to represent, from my point of view, if you knew what I knew, it looks real bad for him. REAL BAD. Almost like, unless there is a rule that two people can represent the same one board, he's taken one that has already been given to someone else. If you know what I'm saying...
UNVOTE: Syrn
Vote: Teatime -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 14:31:56QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 20 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does anyone know what special role cop actually means?
I'm not 'counter-claiming' I'm from JEB. All I'm saying is, after reading which board syrn claims to represent, from my point of view, if you knew what I knew, it looks real bad for him. REAL BAD. Almost like, unless there is a rule that two people can represent the same one board, he's taken one that has already been given to someone else. If you know what I'm saying...
Well, I'm pretty sure a cop (during night) gets to ask about one character and get what role there are.... For example, Retro asks what I was and then Zombo would reply with what I was. Ergo, Retro didn't even get to do her job.
If you know someone from JEB then who? -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 16:22:08
[b/]Teatime is mafia.[/b]
A cop can't say if they are a cop or not, but let's just say if one was and asked about someone and found out they were mafia, they might change their vote very quickly without warning. They would then get lynched by mafia next night, but at least they will have taken out one mafai for sure, if you know what I'm saying
Forget Syrn for now, that's just a suspician. Teatime is mafia 100% sure no matter what he says to try and defend himself. Know what i mean
*Teatime is mafia! -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 20:23:45
Ok first of all, I have no other choice left for me other than voting for Mats. He is saying that I cant be from JEB from what he "knows", which is probably nothing(because he is mafia), and is purposely being vague to cover up while still sounding important. He'll probably end up making a bullshit reason. Seriously, who in their right mind would claim to be from arguably the most popular board in penspinning. If i were to make up a board I would have to be a complete idiot to claim I'm from JEB. Also it doesn't matter what Mats says he "knows", the truth is if someone else really did get JEB like he says is what's happening, then wouldn't they have counter-claimed by now? Also, going back to the point that i have to vote for him now, its because im the one that has seen my role pm so I know for sure that I am who I am and no one can take that away from me. This is the final straw, you can't get away with saying that "he's taken one that has already been given to someone else.", when I know that I really have JEB.
VOTE : Mats
Also, Norice4u hasn't spoken since page 5, and hasn't actually given one opinion, the whole game. He's slowing down the game, and its annoying. I know hes gonna end up posting just to make sure hes in the game after i do this, but it has to be done, its unfair to just read the thread and vote once. Just don't take part of the game if your not gonna post.
Prod: NoRice4U -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 20:30:59
NoRice4U has been prodded, he should reply soon.
Vote Count:
Mats- 1 (Syrn)
Teatime- 1 (Mats)
Not voting (9): WhiteFang, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, NoRice4U, Teatime, Eriror, Sleeve, Invicibleman
6 to lynch. -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 21:07:35
I will have to agree.. Mats, you're just acting strange and out of the ordinary. Your claims seem just random, and you never give any clear thought behind your suspicions. And you say you clearly are no mafia. Then why do people think you are?
Sleeve, you're making sense, but the Mafia would never do things that way. If they would kill someone, they would want them to have their attention diverted away from them, not to them. If the Mafia is indeed thinking this way, they want us to dispose of Mats or Invincibleman before killing us off again. Of course, they might think this as well, which makes it a vicious circle. -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 21:20:07
Only a fool votes for a Mats...
I'm not mafia retards.
But teatime is!
If you know what I'm saying
prod: Zombo -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 21:50:52
wtf mats... don't play when you're high.
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Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 23:09:58
Since Mats is acting all weird(I didn't know Mats took drugs
) and just denouncing everybody as mafia and just simply stating sort of "lul im not mafia" I want a role claim from Mats. -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 23:55:37
My last guess was clearly wrong. I had no other idea who was mafia other than Retro, and like I said I was wrong. I will have to analyze the next posts to get any idea on who to vote for.
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 02:15:17
hmm
it's been 72 hours already, and nobody has spoken in the last 24 hours... -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 04:26:16
See, this is the problem with this mafia thread. There are a ton of people who just completely shutup for a long period of time, and we need to vote, or at least discuss voting. Ill say it again. Vote, and vote for Mats. He says that I am not JEB even after I role claimed, he is not counter-claiming, and there have been no counter-claims at all. If i were really lying wouldnt the person the "real" JEB have a problem with it and speak up?
VOTE! You should prob give your reasoning along with it, so we can have discussion as well as seeing all the povs. -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 04:53:15
Unvote: Invincibleman
Vote: Mats -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 08:33:51QUOTE (hiryuukatana @ Mar 22 2008, 04:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Unvote: Invincibleman
Vote: Mats
Can I waste a role-claim? Yes? Good
GPC represent! -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 08:42:09
do you mind explaining your reasons why you randomly voted for people? or were you high?
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 10:51:27QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Mar 22 2008, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>do you mind explaining your reasons why you randomly voted for people? or were you high?
I think I quite clearly explained my reasoning behind saying why I thought invincibleman was mafia, however, if I was pushing so hard to get rid of him and he was mafia, I figure mafia would have topped me to ensure safety of one of themselves. This leads me to suspect him less.
Erirornal, I don't know, something about his timing of his posts and content of them really makes me suspicious of him, but not yet enough to vote for him. I would really like to see a role-claim from him, but I think I am probably alone in wanting and that and so nothing doing now.
Teatime, I just have a gut feeling after reading what he wrote in this thread. A wise scientist once said to me 'Go with your gut, it's usually right'. I take his advice here and suggest that Teatime is mafia. I await his defence. . .
(maybe I was a little drunk when I prodded Zombo)
Edit: Oh and take your votes off me now you know who I represent fools... -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 16:35:37
1 role claim remaining
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 17:20:01
Alright, sorry for not posting for so long, I just had a really busy last 3 days(Pen spinning gathering followed by a camping weekend away).
Mats, I don't see why I should defend myself. Your reasoning for me being Mafia is purely gut feeling, so how am I supposed to defend against that? It's not like I can say something to change that >.>
At the moment, I think we should apply pressure on m3x_spinner. He barely participated, and when he did he voted for people without any reasoning or explanation, just appearing, voting and then disappearing again.
m3x_spinner, your defense? -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 19:13:20
My defense?
I just read what other people post.
Yes, I did say that I was going to be more active and me saying nothin doesn't help.
If you want a role claim for me, I can give it to you.
Remember we only have one left. -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 20:20:23
I don't like the way Teatime failed to put up a defence and immediately put the blame on m3x_spinner (who I think just doesn't have anything to say right now and so is not posting due to this). I, personally, would like the last role-claim from Teatime. Anyone else in agreement? m3x_spinner? Anyone?
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 20:28:53
I would like one from Teatime as well now that Mats mentions it.
I agree with what he did because I too am not the only one that has statyed quiet.
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 20:34:42
UNVOTE: Teatime
VOTE: m3x_spinner
He was all too quick to agree on a roll-claim from teatime. All too quick. He fell into the trap and one mafia has been caught.
1 - 0 to the townies! -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 20:41:08
No dude.
All to quick because I'm here like 24/7.
Trust me.
Do NOT vote for me.
If you all vote for me for being Mafia and if I die and my identity revealed, you all will see.
Seriously.
Oh and another thing, I can still give you my role. -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:09:20
If I give you my role you all will see blah blah blah.
Nice try.
You're mafia. -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:13:50
Ok fine.
Just watch.
VOTE FOR ME.
But what about you Mats?
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:15:53
Because he made a role claim?
Mats, that looks like a really nice job, I guess I'll vote for him until he gives a decent role claim. But yeah, m3x, you're just making random votes without giving any thoughts behind them. You're really not active at all, and making bandwagon votes. Tell me a reason why not to vote for you.
Vote: m3x_spinner -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:19:49
His role claim could be fake.
Why not to vote for me?
I am not Mafia.
And because of my role.
I will say it unless anyone else says not to. -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:30:36
Oh snap, I'm not a male because I say I'm not. But I clearly am!
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:35:15
Fine then.
I represent ThaiSpinner.
Screw you guys. -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:41:53
ok, now im up in the air about voting because Mats just role claimed, but I still have no idea why he said that i cant be from JEB. Care to explain yourself? Seriously, whats up with that, if im gonna respect your claim, than why dont you respect mine? Please explain.
I really cant get it off my mind. In the meantime...I want a role claim from m3x_spinner. If you really are innocent, clear your name by role claiming.
And damnit, why are my suspicions always well thought out and then they just turn to shit? wth is wrong with me? im always wrong.
yah didnt see the role claim, umm damnit, this is hard.
woah....double posts automatically merge now...cool, that'd make this triple. -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:54:35
I really think that m3x_spinner is mafia, in spite of his role-claim. Even if no-one counter claims, who is to say that every community has been assigned? He might just be getting lucky. Perhaps mafia were even given a board to themselves to use or something, we know that rules are subject to change from game to game and this could be one of them. I say, still vote m3x_spinner - He fell into a trap and seems to be trying every single measure to get out.
And of course, if someone counter claims him - 100% he's going. For now he's perhaps only 90% going...
Sorry Syrn, I initially thought my PM said I was from JEB, but I was mistaken upon double checking.
And what was so special about that role that you could not reveal it m3x? eh? eh? -
Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 21:56:31
I wanted to make sure everyone wanted to hear me say it just in case somebody didn't want to.
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 22:01:49
0 role claim remaining.
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 23:29:32QUOTEBecause he made a role claim?
Mats, that looks like a really nice job, I guess I'll vote for him until he gives a decent role claim. smile.gif But yeah, m3x, you're just making random votes without giving any thoughts behind them. You're really not active at all, and making bandwagon votes. Tell me a reason why not to vote for you.
btw how many mafia is there?
EDIT: sorry dont know why i quoted that..
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 01:57:53
I have posted the narrative for Day 2, please take a look.
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 11:33:29
ok.
i think that Eriror is the mafia. he kinda forced m3x to role claim. it sounded like he's tried to get him to role claim so he wouldn't have to. when m3x said why Mats isn't mafia trying to get rid of a townie. Eriror's answer was 'Because he made a role claim?' so he believes Mats is a townie because he role-claimed but doesn't believe m3x' is townie even though he role-claimed.
the other reason why i think eriror is mafia is because out of 12 people whose playing this game, there are 3 players who i thought has the highest chance of being mafia even before the game started. the 3 of them are Mats, Retro, Eriror. because they are like the 'senior' member of upsb. but Retro is dead, Mats claims to be from GPC, and Eriror isn't really 100% proven to be anything. so yeah..
Vote:Eriror -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 14:11:38
I'm not saying I don't believe m3x to be a Mafia now. Have I posted after he made a role claim? No.. Oh snap! I would make a role claim now, but there are a few things...
1) As of now, you're more or less the only one who is thinking anything behind my reasoning that would seem Mafia-ish.
2) I can't make a role claim anymore, as m3x kinda randomly made one anyway. Oh, and wasn't Mats pushing him to make a role claim as well? Snap, but he's not Mafia!
And really, being a 'senior' member of UPSB would have to do like.. nothing.. with how the roles are divided. Zombo himself has even said that the roles have been assigned to randomly. So "people having the highest chance" would be 1/12, and "people having the least chance" would be... 1/12!
So yeah, you're basically saying: "there are 3 players I would like to see killed because they are way too influental compared to others even before the game started."? So yeah... How about hiryuukatana? You suspected him as well. You didn't want any role claims from me in page 3, even though you said you thought I had the largest chance of being Mafia. Then you bandwagoned on voting Invincibleman. Aren't you being a little bit random with your accusations? You were telling people to vote in Page 5, but you didn't give any reasoning on who to vote for.
So, all in all, you're saying that people should vote, but not on who, because when they would vote, you won't look like a suspect. You seemed like a normal Townie at first, but now I'm really thinking you're Mafia. Defence?
Unvote: m3x_spinner
Vote: WhiteFang -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 14:19:28
prod: Minche
Prod: Sleeve
Where are those guys?
Anyways, imo, Erirornal just dropped himself right in the shitter.
UNVOTE: m3x_spinner
VOTE: Erirornal K.
You fucking cunt of a Spinz agent. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 14:24:20
Holy crap, are we on bandwagon syndrome here?
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 14:43:28
Vote Count:
Mats- 2 (Syrn, hiryuukatana)
Eriror- 2 (WhiteFang, Mats)
WhiteFang- 1 (Eriror)
Not voting (6): m3x_spinner, minche, NoRice4U, Teatime, Sleeve, Invicibleman
6 to lynch.
Sleeve, minche prodded -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 14:57:48
GET YOUR VOTES OFFA ME AND ONTO ERIROR NOW!
I role-claimed and no-one counter claimed - You know I'm telling the truth.
WF was right about Eriror. WE MUST GET RID OF HIM! -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 14:59:36
Obviously, with we, you mean you and your Mafia buddies, and the reason would be so you still have your full force tomorrow, and there are 3 Townies less, steering towards a clean win?
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 15:05:59QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Mar 23 2008, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Obviously, with we, you mean you and your Mafia buddies, and the reason would be so you still have your full force tomorrow, and there are 3 Townies less, steering towards a clean win?
I'm afraid I think that, after reading this post of yours, you may not be mafia. You have created doubt within my mind. I should stick with m3x_spinner.
UNVOTE: Erirornal K.
VOTE: whitefang
I'm not posting anymore in this thread until the next day (unless you idiots lynch me). It is my firm belief that WF is indeed mafia. I'm sure I am not alone in my thoughts and I urge that we must lynch SOMEONE on this day as each day we don't lynch we allow the mafia to take another life with no risk unto themselves. I will not proclaim that you should vote WF, but merely say you should read Erirornal's post on the afore page and make a decision for yourselves. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 15:25:35
i think Whitefang is most likely to be mafia because he accused Eriror without any proper reason (unless of course if you think that Eriror is mafia because he is 'senior' member of UPSB). i'm not voting yet because i'm still not sure about Eriror, NoRice4U and Sleeve.
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 15:31:37
1) by looking at the role i got. i don't belief that the roles were randomly chosen. or its just as you say 1/12 i got my role.
2)Of course you can't make a role-claim now, i'm saying that was your plan. because from what i see, m3x didn't randomly role-claim, you pushed him not mats. when Mats said that m3x is a mafia, i don't think he would've actually role-claimed since Mats was kind of suspecting everyone.QUOTEthere are 3 players I would like to see killed because they are way too influental compared to others even before the game started.
um...no? who said i wanted to see them getting killed?
the reason why i wanted people to vote was because i thought it would've been better if we took our chances and lynched someone. and i wanted to see you and Teatime vote.QUOTEHow about hiryuukatana? You suspected him as well. You didn't want any role claims from me in page 3, even though you said you thought I had the largest chance of being Mafia.
i suspected hiryuu? so why would i want role claims from you? and i never said i thought you had the largest chance of being mafia.
4) you thought i was a townie first but your thinking that i'm the mafia now. do you think that i'm mafia because i suspected you? or because i've been acting suspiciously.
obviously you didn't see me suspicious because you clearly had to go through the thread looking for things ive said (since you can recall the page numbers)QUOTE (minche @ Mar 24 2008, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think Whitefang is most likely to be mafia because he accused Eriror without any proper reason (unless of course if you think that Eriror is mafia because he is 'senior' member of UPSB). i'm not voting yet because i'm still not sure about Eriror, NoRice4U and Sleeve.
remember i had 2 reasons?QUOTEI'm afraid I think that, after reading this post of yours, you may not be mafia. You have created doubt within my mind. I should stick with m3x_spinner.
UNVOTE: Erirornal K.
VOTE: whitefang
you should stick with m3x_spinner and you voted for me..? -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 16:02:47QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Mar 23 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>1) by looking at the role i got. i don't belief that the roles were randomly chosen. or its just as you say 1/12 i got my role.
So you neglect Zombo's very own words and head your own way. That's thoughtful. He even gave the website he used.QUOTE2)Of course you can't make a role-claim now, i'm saying that was your plan. because from what i see, m3x didn't randomly role-claim, you pushed him not mats. when Mats said that m3x is a mafia, i don't think he would've actually role-claimed since Mats was kind of suspecting everyone.
I just followed Mats's lead, is that wrong in your eyes?QUOTEum...no? who said i wanted to see them getting killed?
Well, if Mats, Retro and I would have been Mafia, you would want us to be killed. And if you are Mafia, and we would be suspicious of you, you would want us to be dead as well, seeing as we supposedly have a great influence over the votes of others, or something.QUOTEthe reason why i wanted people to vote was because i thought it would've been better if we took our chances and lynched someone. and i wanted to see you and Teatime vote.
I wasn't suspicious of anyone at that point, and I don't feel like wasting a Townie. I believe we would have had a 1/4 chance of lynching a Mafia if we would have picked randomly. If we would have picked a Townie, we'd be on 2 deaths now. If we killed another townie today, we would be on 4. Doesn't sound very good.QUOTEi suspected hiryuu? so why would i want role claims from you? and i never said i thought you had the largest chance of being mafia.
Yes, you suspected him.
Well, so I can show I'm not Mafia?
Spoiler:
Highest chance of being mafia. The 3 of them are. Well, I'm included.QUOTE4) you thought i was a townie first but your thinking that i'm the mafia now. do you think that i'm mafia because i suspected you? or because i've been acting suspiciously.
obviously you didn't see me suspicious because you clearly had to go through the thread looking for things ive said (since you can recall the page numbers)
I didn't see you as suspicious because it's not really weird not to be overly active in the first day. Now, however, you were acting suspiciously, precisely like someone who doesn't want to be the prime suspect. So, I had to go and reread the things you said. What if I didn't and noted things you said just a little bit differently? That wouldn't be neat of me. So yeah, I just searched for things you said, so what?QUOTEremember i had 2 reasons?
One of them being I pushed m3x_spinner to making a role claim, which others would have done as well, just to get him on hot coals. You also said I didn't believe m3x_spinner to be townie even after he made a role claim, but I never posted anything after he made a role claim. I'd gladly make a role claim, seriously. But no one was suspicious of me before, so there was not even a reason to.
The other being you thinking the roles aren't divided randomly, which Zombo himself said they were, so that is false. =/
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 16:09:46
i'll respond to your post after i get some sleep.
and to all the other people i have 1 more reason to suspect eriror. i'm just not 100% sure about it yet. when i work it out. i'll tell yous -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 16:10:08
BTW, we need more NoRice4U, Invincibleman, hiryuukatana and Teatime in this topic.
Prod: NoRice4U
Prod: Invincibleman
Prod: hiryuukatana
Prod: Teatime -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 16:40:04QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Mar 23 2008, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm not saying I don't believe m3x to be a Mafia now. Have I posted after he made a role claim? No.. Oh snap! I would make a role claim now, but there are a few things...
1) As of now, you're more or less the only one who is thinking anything behind my reasoning that would seem Mafia-ish.
2) I can't make a role claim anymore, as m3x kinda randomly made one anyway. Oh, and wasn't Mats pushing him to make a role claim as well? Snap, but he's not Mafia!
And really, being a 'senior' member of UPSB would have to do like.. nothing.. with how the roles are divided. Zombo himself has even said that the roles have been assigned to randomly. So "people having the highest chance" would be 1/12, and "people having the least chance" would be... 1/12!
So yeah, you're basically saying: "there are 3 players I would like to see killed because they are way too influental compared to others even before the game started."? So yeah... How about hiryuukatana? You suspected him as well. You didn't want any role claims from me in page 3, even though you said you thought I had the largest chance of being Mafia. Then you bandwagoned on voting Invincibleman. Aren't you being a little bit random with your accusations? You were telling people to vote in Page 5, but you didn't give any reasoning on who to vote for.
So, all in all, you're saying that people should vote, but not on who, because when they would vote, you won't look like a suspect. You seemed like a normal Townie at first, but now I'm really thinking you're Mafia. Defence?
Unvote: m3x_spinner
Vote: WhiteFangQUOTE (Mats @ Mar 23 2008, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>GET YOUR VOTES OFFA ME AND ONTO ERIROR NOW!
I role-claimed and no-one counter claimed - You know I'm telling the truth.
WF was right about Eriror. WE MUST GET RID OF HIM!
You have no proof of that.... just because nobody counterclaimed doesn't mean your not mafia. You seem to be trying at all costs to direct blame off of you.
EDIT: Vote-Mats -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 16:43:43
Good point.
Say, there are 9 Townies, there are more than 9 communities. However, GPC is one of the more well-known ones. =/ -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 16:50:15
prods sent.
norice4u, you CANNOT edit your posts!!! -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 16:52:31
Oh...I'm sorry I didn't know... what do I do now?
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 16:55:55
you double-post instead.
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 17:05:25
I agree with Eriror and Mats. WF voted for invincibleman without reason, and it was just a bandwagon vote. WF said that Eriror forced the role claim of m3x_spinner, but honestly i think it was a good thing because if he did not role claim he would have very likely been lynched. Also, WF said how Eriror had to look through the thread to find reason, but isn't that what everyone does? I know when i look at somone i look through their previous posts to make new meaning of it. Also, i dont get why WF would go against what Zombo said, if Zombo said that the selection was random, then i dont see any reason to doubt that. I've been wrong in the past with my suspects, so this time im gonna go with Mats, because after he role claimed, i am pretty sure he is townie and that i can trust him.
UNVOTE : Mats
VOTE : Whitefang -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 17:11:26
Vote Count:
WhiteFang- 3 (Eriror, Mats, Syrn)
Mats- 2 (hiryuukatana, NoRice4U)
Eriror- 1 (WhiteFang)
Not voting (5): m3x_spinner, minche, Teatime, Sleeve, Invicibleman
6 to lynch. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 19:49:15QUOTE (Syrn @ Mar 23 2008, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I agree with Eriror and Mats. WF voted for invincibleman without reason, and it was just a bandwagon vote. WF said that Eriror forced the role claim of m3x_spinner, but honestly i think it was a good thing because if he did not role claim he would have very likely been lynched. Also, WF said how Eriror had to look through the thread to find reason, but isn't that what everyone does? I know when i look at somone i look through their previous posts to make new meaning of it. Also, i dont get why WF would go against what Zombo said, if Zombo said that the selection was random, then i dont see any reason to doubt that. I've been wrong in the past with my suspects, so this time im gonna go with Mats, because after he role claimed, i am pretty sure he is townie and that i can trust him.
UNVOTE : Mats
VOTE : Whitefang
i agree with this on two reasons. one of them being that white fang assumed that the roles were not randomly distributed and proceeded to attack eriror as a result of his senior member status. this could have been just a mistake but why was it not addressed till now? the second reason is that i feel m3x_spinner is not as suspicious right now as whitefang so
UNVOTE: MATS
VOTE: WHITEFANG -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 19:59:50
Okay I haven't been at my computer that much in the past few days. Been up to other things. I really haven't posted in this thread that much because there is not much to say really. I am not ready to make any decisions yet, but originally I suspected Mats. Now I have to say that WF seems the most suspicious. He was somebody I had not really even considered in the last day. He voted for me without reason because I had the highest vote count at the time. He was trying to lynch anybody other than himself. Retro actually tried to collect evidence against the person he suspected. I think this showed the Mafia that he would actually try to look into posts that is why they killed him. If he had gotten suspicious of a mafia member than there was a chance that he could find evidence.
I am fairly certain that WF is in the Mafia, but like I said I am not ready to make any final decisions yet. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 22:11:17
Vote Count:
WhiteFang- 4 (Eriror, Mats, Syrn, hiryuukatana)
Mats- 1 (NoRice4U)
Eriror- 1 (WhiteFang)
Not voting (5): m3x_spinner, minche, Teatime, Sleeve, Invicibleman
6 to lynch.
WhiteFang is at -2. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 22:13:57
Ok, after reading other people's posts I have to agree with them that it makes sense that Mats isn't Mafia
Unvote-Mats
Vote-Whitefang -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 22:21:13
Vote Count:
WhiteFang- 5 (Eriror, Mats, Syrn, hiryuukatana, NoRice4U)
Eriror- 1 (WhiteFang)
Not voting (5): m3x_spinner, minche, Teatime, Sleeve, Invicibleman
6 to lynch.
WhiteFang is at -1. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 22:23:15
Yoi know I stil haven't heard from Teatime after he asked my defense.
He just asked, then Mats came in accusing me being Mafia and what not.
Then he stayed quiet during the whole thing, and still hasn't posted anything.
So now it's my turn to ask you TeaTime...your defense? -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 22:28:33
Yes, as Eriror knows, I was busy making my first MSXA.
What more do you want me to say m3x? You role claimed. No one countered it, for now I have to treat you as townie until I find a good reason to think you're lying.
Right now I'm busy thinking weather the evidence against WF are good enough to vote him off...I don't want what happened yesterday to happen again... -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 22:36:39
I can't decide yet. I'm off to bed, I'll make my decision tomorrow.
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 00:34:45
Same here. I will think about in school tomorrow. I have nothing better to do. It is the last week before spring break so all of the teachers are anxious to leave. I will have a decision by 3:00 p.m Eastern time.
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 01:53:51
like i said before. are you guys voting me because i am suspicious or because i voted Eriror? anywayz i'm about to be lynched so theres no really point of me trying to defend myself. you guys will lynch me sooner or later anyway since other two mafia haven't voted yet. (or people i believe to be mafia)
To all the people saying i'm mafia because i voted invisibleman without evidence. have you guys seen NoRice, hiryuu, m3x?
NoRiceQUOTEOk, after reading other people's posts I have to agree with them that it makes sense that Mats isn't Mafia
Unvote-Mats
Vote-WhitefangQUOTEI haven't been replying but I've been reading. dry.gif
Vote - Invincibleman
hiryuuQUOTEVOTE: Invinceableman
time to put the pressure on...
i mean Invicibleman
m3xQUOTEVOTE-Invincibleman
how people suspect me for voting invisibleman without a proper reason but doesn't suspect NoRice? err.. because he never suspected eriror? like eriror and some others mentioned, practically noone even mentioned my name throughout the game. i would've been in a perfect position to kill people without anyone suspecting me. why would i blow all my 'undercover' to suspect someone?
ask yourself:
if i didn't suspect eriror would you guys even notice me in the game?
if you were the mafia, would you blow your cover to suspect a townie when you can just wait til the night and kill them?
****Eriror: you said that you didn't vote for anyone because you didn't suspect anyone. is that true? or did you just not vote of invisibleman because he's on your side, along with Teatime.?*****
i see alot of connection between Teatime and Eriror. both not voting, and when eriror demanded m3x for a role claim, he was kinda getting Teatime out of there. and as Teatime mentionsQUOTEYes, as Eriror knows, blah blah
i know you wont believe me right now because you all think i'm the mafia, but..
if i do die after being lynched, you will find that i'm not mafia. then you guys must demand a role claim from Eriror, and if he is mafia, then the other two are Teatime and invisibleman. but make sure eriror role claims first if he role claims and is not mafia, well.. then i'm really sorry.
BTW. i am from the largest pen spinning community in asia. community that is known for their skill but many people think they have poor creativity. community also known for their shops and their 'retarted admin' if you know my background, you will know why i thought the roles were not randomly given.
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 01:56:48
Oh, then you have to be mafia! Because that place is EVIL PURE EVIL
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:01:56
i 'role claimed.' what more do you want?
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:04:33
I thought there were 0 role claims remaining
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:08:08
i didn't really say i was from xx community did i? it was indirect. i gave out hints. you had to workout where im from.
ok. everything i said before might not be true. i'm suspecting norice now.. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:09:57
Hmm well I guess indirect role claim is valid haha
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:46:37
I dont know is this is bad or good, but im gonna unvote for WF now. I was really conflicted and had reasons to go either way Eriror and Whitefang and i gave my reasons for Eriror first, was about to post and then changed my mind about it and went for WF because im so indecisive, and ive only had false suspects so far(i cant really word it right but you get the point).
Unvote: Whitefang -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:52:14
i want my type of 'role claim' from eriror norice teatime invisibleman
tell the size of your community, what your famous for, whereabout there is (asia, europe), any other features. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 03:01:42
an indirect role claim doesn't go on the record, it can't be counter-claimed officially as well, only unofficially.
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 03:12:20
I don't care what you people say, if im bandwagoning or not, its pretty well established that im not mafia. After seeing WF's post ive had a major change. While it may be true that it is sorta good for the community to know its not m3x, Eriror still was the one that pushed him over the edge, and if it werent for Eriror m3x would not have role claimed. That part seems pretty clear to me.
I also realize that my only valid reason was that WF was bandwagoning before, but after he pointed out the other bandwagon votes, and the fact that Eriror didn't even vote at all last time im starting to change my mind. I feel so stupid that i was putting the blame on Mats 1st day. Now i think i would have rather seen the outcome of Invincibleman.
Idk if im being too easily influenced or whatnot by the new posts but whatever. Thinking about it more, the only reason WF became a suspect is because Eriror is trying to get revenge for suspecting him. Also the only reasons that are really given for WF being mafia is that he disagreed with the way roles were chosen, and that he bandwagoned. I see stronger reasons for Eriror imo, and im gonna go back to my gut instinct. meh, i dont want to make it a habit of quickly changing votes because i dont want to be accused of "vote hopping" but this is a tough decision. Im done with my personal reasons, my other reasons are just from WF's post, and hes less suspicious now that i see his indirect role claim.
Vote: Eriror -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 03:15:08
Vote Count:
WhiteFang- 4 (Eriror, Mats, hiryuukatana, NoRice4U)
Eriror- 2 (WhiteFang, Syrn)
Not voting (5): m3x_spinner, minche, Teatime, Sleeve, Invicibleman
6 to lynch. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 03:18:40
how is counter-claim official in the first place?
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 03:27:28
you can counter-claim anyone who has claimed. then it's officially written in the first post that you have counter-claimed.
because you didn't claim officially, nobody can directly say "Wrong, I'm from XXXX", they have to undirectly say "Wrong, I think I'm from the same community" or something. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:42:44
Dude what the hell are you counting me for? Not only did I not vote for you I'm actually considering voting Eriror as well.
By "As Eriror knows" I just meant to validate my absence since I talked to him about making the MSXA.
More over, even if I were Mafia, which I'm not, I wouldn't be talking about the game outside the topic because that's cheating, and just the fact that you're considering such a thing just shows how desperate you are.
No point in putting blame on m3x because he claimed a community and hasn't been countered so he's probably a townie(PROBABLY).
Anyway, your post makes sense. I'm in school now so when I come back I'll try to read deeper and see if I can decide what to do next. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:49:40QUOTEMore over, even if I were Mafia, which I'm not, I wouldn't be talking about the game outside the topic because that's cheating, and just the fact that you're considering such a thing just shows how desperate you are
i'm desperate? mafias can talk privately during the night? -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:56:23
and btw. why don't you just indirectly role-claim and then you can call me desparate
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 11:49:22QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Mar 24 2008, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i'm desperate? mafias can talk privately during the night?
Yes they can but where the hell in my words did you find a connection between me and Eriror?
You're just shooting at all directions for no reason at all, I haven't even voted for you >_< -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 12:23:06
your still avoiding the whole role-claiming thing..
in your words i cannot find the connection. but i feel there is a connection between you and eriror throughout the thread. or not? i'm just saying i think your a mafia IF eriror turns out to be mafia as well
and are you saying that i can't suspect you because you didn't vote for me? because i suspected eriror and before he voted for me. and tons of other people suspect other people in the beginning when noone voted for each other -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 14:01:59QUOTEVote Count:
Invicibleman- 6 (Mats, WhiteFang, Retro-Spectre, NoRice4U, hiryuukatana, m3x_spinner)
Retro-Spectre- 1 (Invicibleman)
Mats- 1 (Syrn)
Syrn- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (3): minche, Teatime, Eriror
7 to lynch.
anyone read this clearly?
6 people voted for invicibleman. in my guess there is 2~3 mafia. 6 who voted for mafia:
Mats - GPC (role claimed)
Retro - upsb (died)
hiryuu - SweSpin (role claimed)
m3x - Thai (role claimed)
NoRice - unknown
WhiteFang - unknown (but indirectly role claimed)
out of 6 people, 5 of them is 100% not mafia. (including me since i know where i'm from)
in that situation, the maximum number of mafia who could've voted for invicibleman is 1 (norice) which gives the mafia a GREAT chance to get rid of a townie. but they didn't. which means invicibleman is mafia. why else would they not want to lynch invivibleman.QUOTEHe voted for me without reason because I had the highest vote count at the time. He was trying to lynch anybody other than himself.
sorry i didn't see that before.
err..i voted for you because you had the highest vote count at the time. kinda true, because you had 1 vote at the time i voted for you.QUOTERetro actually tried to collect evidence against the person he suspected. I think this showed the Mafia that he would actually try to look into posts that is why they killed him. If he had gotten suspicious of a mafia member than there was a chance that he could find evidence.
wtf? because Retro tried to collect evidence, and if he gotten suspicious of a mafia member than there was chance that he could find evidence, thats why he was killed. he kinda thought you were the mafia and you could see him as a threat so you killed him. good enough reason?
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 14:17:03
oh almost forgot,
QUOTEVote Count:
WhiteFang- 5 (Eriror, Mats, Syrn, hiryuukatana, NoRice4U)
Eriror- 1 (WhiteFang)
Not voting (5): m3x_spinner, minche, Teatime, Sleeve, Invicibleman
6 to lynch.
how come he didn't vote for me that time..?
why didn't Teatime and Invicibleman just vote for me if they were the mafia? well the answer is... i honestly don't know. my guess right now is because...
eriror told them to?QUOTEYes, as Eriror knows, I was busy making my first MSXA.
Teatime did talk to Eriror for wateva reason. Teatime and Invicibleman both somehow decides to not vote for me which is kinda weird. (what i said just here is not certain for me either, im probably imagining it because i really think Eriror is mafia along with those two.)
and teatime still refuses to indirectly role claim.
the reason why i'm posting soo much is because i really think i'm gonna be killed this round, so you guys can use whateva i said to catch the mafia
Eriror: my reasons are getting worse and more confusing and i am starting to have doubts about you being the mafia. i will unvote you as soon as you role claim. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 19:02:05
I never said I wouldn't vote for you WF. I said I had not quite decided yet. You see unlike some people in this game I actually think about my desicions logicly. Nobody can ever be completely shure about what someone is until they are dead. WF seems to be coming up with strange reasons. By saying that anyone who voted for him was just doing what Eririor told them to do. Remember that Eririor voted for many people you and everybody didn't vote for the same person. Eriror made a very good point that was probably brewing in everybodys brains. We are all smart people, and I believe if everybody looks at the threads they will see that you are the best candidiate for being Mafia.
Vote WhiteFang -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 19:14:46
If Eriror indirectly role-claims then I cant see myself voting for him as well just because its almost the same as a regular role-claim, and i tend to respect them unless refuted. Anyway, after seeing that analysis I think it is safe to say invincibleman is mafia. If Eriror is not a mafia, then the other suspects then become, Minche, Teatime, Sleeve, and Norice4u.
"Yesterday" Sleeve voted for me, and then changed to another suspect, but both times he was voting alone Itd probably so he didnt have to vote for invincibleman if sleeve was mafia himself. I dont really see why else he would, at the final moments, think that hes really gonna get everyone to vote for me or m3x_spinner. if he really wanted that hed give more reason and be more vocal, so i dont want to completely count him out because i think he could have been using that as a way to sidestep the issue.
Norice4u has been acting weird though lately, even after he saw WF's role claim he didnt back off, the other people voting for WF havent even posted after the fact which would hint that they may not have seen it, making Norice the only one that has seen his role claim, but still went actively against it.
I really dont know what to make of the other candidates right now, but I hope WF can become very active soon so he can commentt on some of my ideas, and also possibly give advice for the day, because right now im really trusting him.
Invincibleman you serious...you too i just saw your vote....even after he role-claimed.
Get your votes off WF townies!!!!!! HE ROLE-CLAIMED! -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 19:28:39
Just because he 'role claimed' doesnt mean he isnt mafia
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 19:31:29
Vote Count:
WhiteFang- 5 (Eriror, Mats, hiryuukatana, NoRice4U, Invicibleman)
Eriror- 2 (WhiteFang, Syrn)
Not voting (4): m3x_spinner, minche, Teatime, Sleeve
6 to lynch.
WhiteFang is at -1. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 19:33:03
role claim convinced me.
UNVOTE: WHITEFANG -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 19:42:14
i don't suspect Whitefang anymore. i'm now wondering where is Sleeve?? he just disappeared, after he was acting very strange first day (voting without giving any reason and posting how this game is sooo confusing)!
and he was prodded and didn't reply after that. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 19:45:32
Seeing as you role claimed, I have no real reason to vote for you now, indeed.
Unvote: WhiteFang
I'm sorry if I seemed like a mafia with not voting for Invincibleman, but I really didn't want to seem like a bandwagon voter myself and have the risk of looking even more like a mafia by killing a probable Townie, you see? Me talking to Teatime, it's just because we're friends and talk about pen spinning a lot. We would never talk about Mafia, because that basically is akin to cheating. Even if I were Mafia, I wouldn't be able to talk to any other person except if it's during night time.
As for my indirect role claim, my board holds the number 3 and 4 of the world. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 19:55:46
I love David Weiss is my role claim and Unvote: [b]WF[b/] for now since the people who voted 4 him pressured him
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 20:20:03
Vote Count:
WhiteFang- 3 (Mats, NoRice4U, Invicibleman)
Eriror- 2 (WhiteFang, Syrn)
Not voting (6): m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Teatime, Eriror, Sleeve
6 to lynch. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 20:27:46
Just because he roll claimed doesn't mean he didn't lie. I do realize that he may have told the truth. I will leave my vote for now. Depending on how things play out in the next few hours I will change my vote.
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 20:29:06
oh whoops Unvote: Whitefang, since all of us who voted for him pressured him until he 'role claimed'
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 20:45:07
Excellent job Whitefang.
He's good at playing mafia. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 21:57:23
Im sorry but by "playing mafia" are you saying hes good at the game in general and implying a good townie, or hes good at playing the role of mafia? Basically are you saying WF is townie or Mafia by that?
anyway, after Eriror role claimed by hints, im gonna have to unvote.
Unvote: Eriror
Lets get the talk started, since now its sorta going in a new direction.
Anyone else agree that Norice4u's hint is questionable?
Anybody else up for going for Invincibleman again? this time the evidence seems much more concrete. btw sorry townies on my bad calls "yesterday". -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 22:13:01
i feel that we should go after invincibleman again since there is this
QUOTEI never said I wouldn't vote for you WF. I said I had not quite decided yet. You see unlike some people in this game I actually think about my desicions logicly. Nobody can ever be completely shure about what someone is until they are dead. WF seems to be coming up with strange reasons. By saying that anyone who voted for him was just doing what Eririor told them to do. Remember that Eririor voted for many people you and everybody didn't vote for the same person. Eriror made a very good point that was probably brewing in everybodys brains. We are all smart people, and I believe if everybody looks at the threads they will see that you are the best candidiate for being Mafia.
Vote WhiteFang
how is that for jumping on the bandwagon?
also, i have a nagging feeling that mats may also be mafia. i initially voted mats but was kind of persuaded over to whitefang.
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 23:28:11
Sorry I have been gone...I don't have a computer on my own and it has just started Spring Break...So it's really hard to get on sometimes! Sorry for my inactivity! Let's see here... accusations? on me? Psshaw... I voted for you Syrn on the first day because it seemed like you were trying to hard...you know? But then again I did say that could be a trait of a mafia or good town leader...i don't know about everyone else...but i accept it as town leader... As for m3x...It seemed like he just jumped on the band-wagon even after the band-wagon was starting to break up...to me that seems suspicious so I voted...hoping maybe for some pressure maybe? Call me brash but I do what I have to in the limited time on the computer?
Not voted but wanted role claim....sorry -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 00:08:28
Okay WhiteFang you convinced me; yiu put up a strong defence where as a mafia member would just give up. Unvote WhiteFang
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Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 07:07:30QUOTEI never said I wouldn't vote for you WF. I said I had not quite decided yet. You see unlike some people in this game I actually think about my desicions logicly. Nobody can ever be completely shure about what someone is until they are dead. WF seems to be coming up with strange reasons. By saying that anyone who voted for him was just doing what Eririor told them to do. Remember that Eririor voted for many people you and everybody didn't vote for the same person. Eriror made a very good point that was probably brewing in everybodys brains. We are all smart people, and I believe if everybody looks at the threads they will see that you are the best candidiate for being Mafia.
what happened to deciding logically. i role-claimed, noone counter claimed, therefore i am logically not mafia. we can't be 100% sure about one's identity, but we do have role-claims dont we? and i am saying people voted for me because of Eriror,(which i think is still happening) but not because he told them to.
maybe you should come up with a defense for yourself rather than say how great eriror is. yes, he is great but thats not the point right now. i don't remember that eriror voted for many people me and everybody else didn't vote for. unless your talking about him voting for me.QUOTEOkay WhiteFang you convinced me; yiu put up a strong defence where as a mafia member would just give up. Unvote WhiteFang
i'm sorry, but what defense? you voted for me, then before i even posted again you unvoted me saying that i put up a good defense..? how logical. this is what i think happened. Invicibleman voted for me when i had 4votes in hope to get me lynched, then eriror norice hiryuu unvoted me. which made him nearly impossible to lynch me, and thats why he backed off. make sense? this time i want a defense. you've been accused so many time but never gave a reasonable defense.
and are you calling yourself mafia? 'as a mafia member would just give up.' i don't quite get that.
Eriror role-claimed. WTF!!! i was nearly certain that he was mafia. but anywayz.
unvote:Eriror
i wasn't saying you were cheating, i was just stating what could've happened, sorry.QUOTEI really dont know what to make of the other candidates right now, but I hope WF can become very active soon so he can commentt on some of my ideas, and also possibly give advice for the day, because right now im really trusting him.
i really appreciate you trusting me and all. but please dont think me as a 'leader' or something.
and to Teatime minche Invisibleman Sleeve ROLE CLAIM!!
Teatime: you avoided me telling you to role-claim. do it NAO!!
Invisibleman: yes just because i role-claimed doesn't mean i didn't lie. i agree with you. but i wasn't afraid of role-claiming was i? i told you to write a defense, so i think you should just role claim for that.QUOTEI love David Weiss is my role claim
err..? someone translate this for me. i don't get it.
and i want to say something about this guy. he ALWAYS follow the majority. he voted for invicibleman + me when we had the most vote. after i role-claimed he said i must be the mafia and he would stick with he's vote. and he always goes about 'pressure.' he decided to not change his vote against me because of pressure and decided to unvote me because of pressure.. WTF
finally. why am i writing so much. sorry you had to read so much.
i think Invicibleman and Teatime is mafia atm.
vote:eriror
oh wait wtf..
unvote:eiror
vote:invicibleman
and btw Mats, unvote me. trust me its betta for me left unvote if you know what i mean ?
EDIT: betta for the townie that i'm left unvoted.. -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 07:54:58QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 25 2008, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay WhiteFang you convinced me; yiu put up a strong defence where as a mafia member would just give up. Unvote WhiteFang
Yeah, cos I know if I were mafia, I would just sit there and let myself be lynched.
You're a fucking retard Invincibleman!
Unvote: whitefang
Vote: Invincibleman
And that's purely because you're a fucking retarded cunt.
(and also cos you're mafia) -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 12:38:14
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 2 (WhiteFang, Mats)
Not voting (9): Syrn, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, NoRice4U, Teatime, Eriror, Sleeve, Invicibleman
6 to lynch. -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 13:12:23
one thing we should do is decide how many mafias and how many townies there is. any suggestions?
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Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 13:38:55
Yeah, after seeing on day 1 that invincibleman was spared even though he could've been lynched this must have been a combination of the mafia saving him and my digression. Anyway the mafia would have lynched him if he were a townie, and his quick change of decisions recently to get off the spotlight is very obvious.
Vote: Invincibleman -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 14:31:14QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Mar 25 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>[Insert WF's really long post here!]
Why do you want a role claim for me...you give reasons for everyone else to role claim but not any reasons for me? I'm very curious.
I guess i'll go with Invincibleman because thats who I was pushing for in the bginning of DAY 2 anyway....that is because Retro wanted him gone and looked at what happened to her
Vote Invincibleman -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 17:05:52QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 25 2008, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay WhiteFang you convinced me; yiu put up a strong defence where as a mafia member would just give up. Unvote WhiteFang
What the hell? WF didn't post anything new...
wtf a mafia member would give up? What are you talking about? You're just trying to bail because everyone stopped voting for him.
You got busted, time to die.
vote: Invinciblema -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 18:34:49
Vote Count:
Invicibleman- 5 (WhiteFang, Mats, Syrn, Sleeve, Teatime)
Not voting (6): m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, NoRice4U, Eriror, Invicibleman
6 to lynch.
Invicibleman is -1. -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 18:46:51
Retro is a guy Sleeve
and ya, back to Retro's death, I agree with Retro wanting Invincibleman dead and Retro died :>
VOTE - Invincibleman -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 21:57:52
I've cleaned all posts after NoRice4U's hammer vote.
You are not supposed to discuss about the hammer vote has fallen. Consider as if the topic is locked. -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 22:08:38
The Pyrrhic Victory
“Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival.â€
- Winston Churchill
UPSB Laboratories – Auditorium
Day 2
2000
Less than 24 hours after a flame was extinguished, another candle was on the verge of burning out. Invincibleman sat on the chair, positioned at the exact spot the body of Retro-Spectre was found earlier. He faced the makeshift jury, his countenance expressionless. Zombo drew his revolver and aimed it at the condemned.
“Time to see if you really are invincible. Any final words?â€
“I’m not a SpinZ agent. You’ll regret this, you stupid mother--â€
“Enough. The members have spoken.†As Zombo’s finger tightened around the trigger, Invincibleman’s next response made him hesitate momentarily.
As witnesses will attest, at that exact moment, Invincibleman reared back and let out a disconcerting laugh that echoed through the auditorium. Even as the bullet tore through his heart, a flicker of amusement played across his face during his last moments of life. The rest of the members, visibly shaken, retired to their rooms.
Some time later, Zombo appropriated Invincibleman’s possessions and was perusing them. He found nothing of interest except a handwritten note hidden in his pillowcase. Notes seemed to be a recurring theme.
Even on his deathbed, Invincibleman was lying through his teeth. At that moment, Zombo’s cell phone rang.
“Hello?â€
“Hello again, Zombo.†The same cold voice from earlier emanated from the speaker.
“An evolution in revolution? You dumbasses couldn’t think of a better slogan?â€
“Hahaha. You amuse me, Zombo. You’ve destroyed one of us, so what? It was your foolishness that let Invincibleman off the hook on the first day, and do you remember what happened next? Oh yes, I do believe we disposed of your precious police officer.â€
Zombo’s grip tightened on his cell.
The caller continued. “See, we have no reason to be scared just yet. Your so-called ‘jury’ can’t think for itself. They are too easily swayed by the opinions of their peers.
Zombo looked around the hallway. He suddenly felt very exposed, as if under constant surveillance.
“All it takes is one well placed hit, and your member base is incapacitated permanently.â€
Zombo’s grip tightened even more, until he felt certain he would crush his cell to bits like Vegeta crushed his scouter to pieces in the “over 9000†scene.
The caller, evidently sensing his frustration, began laughing.
Zombo roared in anger and whipped the phone at the window of Invincibleman’s room, surprised that it actually broke through the pane. The commotion drew a small crowd of spinners, curious as to what was going on.
“Nothing here, folks. But I just found out that Invincibleman was a Spinz agent. Spread the news to every member. Good work.â€
Zombo was too pissed off to do anything else, so he retired to his room and went to bed early. He could not allow the enemy to get to him this easily.Written by Tialys
Active Players:
WhiteFang
m3x_spinner -- claims to be a representative for ThaiSpinner
hiryuukatana -- claims to be a representative for SweSpin
minche
Mats -- claims to be a representative for GPC
NoRice4U
Teatime
Eriror
Sleeve
Syrn -- claims to be a representative for JEB
Eliminated players:
Day 2
Invicibleman - Mafia Agent - SpinZ
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB
=====================================================
Thread locked for the night.
Mafia can now communicate privately.
If you have night action(s), PM your choice to me ASAP. I will end the night when I receive everybody's choice. If I don't receive your choice within 48 hours, I will assume you're doing nothing! But to speed up the process, if you choose to do nothing, PM me anyway! -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 04:54:50
TBD, Mats is killed.
Written by Tialys
-----------------
Active Players:
WhiteFang -- claims to be a representative for PenDolSa
m3x_spinner -- claims to be a representative for ThaiSpinner
hiryuukatana -- claims to be a representative for SweSpin
minche
NoRice4U
Teatime
Eriror
Sleeve
Syrn -- claims to be a representative for JEB
Eliminated players:
Night 2
Mats - Representative - GPC
Day 2
Invicibleman - Mafia Agent - SpinZ
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB
=====================================================
It is day again. Mafia private communication must cease. Any private information transmitted during the night by the moderator may be shared publicly, provided it is not directly quoted or screenshot.
All votes have been reset.
9 spinners remaining, 5 to lynch. 1 role claim.
Invicibleman and Mats are allowed a death rant, no private details should be released.
I have made a mistake in judgment last turn by allowing WhiteFang to post his indirect role claim which was too obvious. I have therefore penalized this day by removing one role claim, which is was by WhiteFang last day. No one should use indirect role claiming as a way to prove innocence or as a method of pressure on others. The idea of limiting role claims is to prevent mass role-claim in the first place, and indirect role claims go against that. -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 05:14:34
Ok
We should save this role claim.
Or treasure it
As not like last tiuem -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 05:43:15
A final parting word. The video clips are as follows 1st clip = day 1, 2nd clip = night 1, 3rd clip = day 2.
Invincibleman -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 05:58:32
oh shit..Mats died. FUCK!!! why mats..
we got invicibleman all because of him..... 
but at least we got one mafia down. but i still have NO IDEA why invicibleman didn't vote me when eriror and others voted for me. if he just voted for me, he would've had the 'hammer vote' and got me lynched without getting suspicious.
Teatime: i think your a mafia. your defense? prove your innocence without role-claiming. and in your defense, include why you didn't role-claim last day.
DONT ROLE-CLAIM FOR NOW. WE ONLY HAVE ONE SO DONT WASTE IT.QUOTERetro-spectre and Mats are allowed a death rant, no private details should be released.
i don't see your name invicibleman GTFO
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 12:27:43
btw i'm really sorry Mats and Retro died. its all my fault. i had a chance to save them since i have the doctor power. thats why i wanted to Mats to take the votes off me. whenever i finish the day with no votes on me, i can use that power to protect someone. end of day 1, i had no votes, but i didn't know i'm supposing to pm zombo during the night(sorry first time playing proper mafia). end of day 2, i had options. As i mentioned before i thought the mafia would go after the 'senior' members. Eriror or Mats. but as you guys saw i dont fully trust eriror yet.(sorry) so i was going to protect mats. then i thought mafia could kill me. why? because i was the first one to vote for invicibleman when he got lynched. i had to decide, but i honestly thought it was more likely that mafia would get me instead of Mats. maybe i was being selfish, trying to protect myself and risking others...so i'm sorry.
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 17:22:33
DAMNIT JUST KILL ALL THE MAFIA YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE KNOW!
*dies* -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 19:04:45
Seems like the discussion is dying down...We need to get to talking peoples...*high fives for killing the mafia*
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 23:30:35
YA BITCH YA Invincibleman turned out to be mafia when he died
and, oh no, Mats died D: so he wasnt high when he was playing mafia, or was he, lol -
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:33:05
Hm.. With Mats dead, we lost a resourceful guy. =/ This is a pretty bad loss, but we can still manage it. I'm pretty much in the dark for now, as my potential mafia suspects all lynched Invincibleman.
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:43:55
lets not forget, when we decided to lynch invicibleman in day 2. It was clear to both townie and mafia that he was going to get lynched whether mafia voted for him or not. maybe mafia just voted so they could be hidden within the townie.
Vote:Teatime -
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 16:57:45
Can someone please explain why Teatime has become a subject. I just never saw the reasons against him. For some reason he never seemed suspicious to me. Also note, that "last night" im sure Mafia were included in the vote.
This makes me not want to discount Norice4u especially after his overly vague role-claim, which doesn't make any sense at all. I think it might be safer to vote for Norice4u, he also sounded suspicious when he didn't unvote for WF right away even after his very obvious role claim. For now I'm gonna have to put my suspicion on Norice4u. I'm not gonna vote just yet, but i might. -
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 06:21:25
i just think Teatime is the mafia because of the reason how he continuously avoided indirect role-claim last day. well..so did NoRice. but i think Teatime is mafia for the reason in first day. when Mats 'randomly' accused invicibleman, one person who was defending him was teatime.
QUOTEYou suspect him 'cause he suggested to wait? Who here DIDN'T suggest to wait(or implied on so due to the fact we know absolutely nothing)?
and i'm not exactly sure when, but i did feel that teatime was trying to change the subject whenever retro or mats were giving reasons that invicibleman is the mafia.
and lookQUOTESorry for not replying for so long, had a busy couple of days.
I want Invincibleman to post a defense before I lynch him.
and when invicibleman gave a shitty defense, he still vote for him.QUOTEMats- Pointed out Invicibleman for no real apparent reason, making him a suspect of foul play...
and finally..QUOTEMats seems really good at pointing random fingers, but I have to agree that you need to participate more. I think this is your first post since page 2? That puts you in a very good position for a "slow-playing Mafia", according to Mats' words.
I think it's time to start voting someone, I'll have to go with Mats at this point.
Vote: Mats
Teatime never really wanted to vote invicibleman. he was defending him.
and other reasons:
-see how invicibleman voted for retro, and retro died? well Teatime voted for Mats, and Mats died. this isn't a good reason but anywayz.
-i still stand by my first theory where Eriror and Teatime and invicibleman is the mafia because i can see some connection. but atm i cant say eriror is mafia since he role-claimed, and invicibleman turned out to be a mafia, so teatime is my next mafia
NoRice could be a mafia, but it is unlikely imo. remember the reason why i thought invicibleman was a mafia? because in day 1 mafia could've had the hammer vote but they didn't. well NoRice voted for him and i doubt he'll risk he's team mate getting lynched on the first day when on the first day the reasons weren't that good, we were randomly voting. (or at least i was)
but i do think norice is suspicious, i reckon 'if' there is something like 'the third party' where he not townie or a mafia but only goal is to survive or lynch anyone.
Prod:
hiryuukatana
minche
i know teatime didn't post anything either but i want to hear his defense so i can't get him prodded.
EDIT:QUOTEand when invicibleman gave a shitty defense, he still didn't vote for him. -
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 06:35:44
i think minche or teatime is mafia.
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Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 12:49:50
Vote Count:
Teatime- 1 (WhiteFang)
Not voting (8): Syrn, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Sleeve, NoRice4U, Teatime, Eriror
5 to lynch. -
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 15:15:42
I really like WhiteFang's conclusion about Teatime....plus, just look at his avatar...ITS A SIGN!...Lol...
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Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 12:12:00
i rally don't know what to post. this day is going so slow, now that Mats is dead, he was one of the most active people in this game.
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Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 12:40:41
yea..and noone seems to post anything interesting.
[b]prod:Teatime
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Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 14:54:28
Well, where's Syrn? He is usually a good discusser? We need some morale! Come one people! Pull yourselves together!
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Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 17:50:34
I hereby waive my narrating duties due to impending finals and general inactivity/apathy on part of participants.
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Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 19:27:21
Okay, really.. We need to step up. This really is no good, nobody seems to be interested in playing anymore. =/
WhiteFang, NoRice4U could have voted for Invincibleman for the sole reason you said, to not look suspicious. That's my opinion, though, I'm thinking really far-fetched now. Teatime really needs to reply to accusations, I'm getting sick of him dodging us constantly. WhiteFang made a good job of analising him, in my opinion.
Vote: Teatime -
Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 21:51:38
Vote Count:
Teatime- 2 (WhiteFang, Eriror)
Not voting (7): Syrn, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Sleeve, NoRice4U, Teatime
5 to lynch. -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 01:10:19
Well, yeah sorry about being slightly inactive its mostly due to school and wrestling.
My problem right now is i have reasons for everybody. Minche, didnt vote for invincibleman both times around. Norice4u has an either fake or really really vague role claim hint and didnt retract his WF vote right away. Sleeve, voted for me possibly to avoid having to vote for invincibleman on the first day.
Also, @Sleeve. I'm really not that good of a discusser, all my theories seem to prove out wrong. Hiryuu, Mats...i basically screwed the town over singlehandedly, i might as well be damn mafia with defending Invincibleman. I'm really not that strong of a player.
All i can think of right now, is that Teatime, has not given a defense, possibly because he thinks he can get away with avoiding it, possibly because hes busy. I want some sort of defense. I want a role claim from either Norice4u, or Teatime. But first i want some good defenses, or more slight hints.
One of the problems is that in my mind we have it down to a few people. Minche, Sleeve, Norice4u, and Teatime.
I believe theres probably two mafia within this bunch, not based on any logic really, but its just my feeling. So please, if you are part of this group and a townie, help the rest of us figure it out. These are the people that need to start to drop subtle hints at role claims and defenses why they are not mafia. Honestly, its really up to you. Speak up, and help advance the game.
I don't want to put another vote onto Teatime yet, because it could put him at risk of being lynched before we get our role claim for the day. -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 01:18:58
well zombo said the 'hints/indirect' role claims arent to be too obvious like whitefangs, this mine is meant to be confusing, so i dont waste a role claim.
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Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 01:40:47
hahaha yeah right. Bullshit. First of all at the time you "role-claimed" Zombo didn't make it clear that you couldn't be as obvious as WF was. You posted right after Eriror, who's "role-claim" was also fairly obvious and he didn't penalize the town for yet another role claim. I doubt after those two very obvious role-claims and no moderator interjection, you all of a sudden decided to make your "role-claim" less obvious for fear of taking away one from the town. Now it seems even more apparent that your just dodging the bullet. Thanks for clarifying my man.
Also i may have made a mistake, in my previous post asking people to drop subtle hints at role-claims. Zombo said, "No one should use indirect role claiming as a way to prove innocence or as a method of pressure on others." Does this mean indirect role claiming has now been taken out of the game or you just cant be as obvious as WF? Are you allowed to do it as long as you aren't trying to prove innocence? Is there any allowance of hinting at your role without saying it or only full out role-claims now? I need some more clarification on this.
Vote: NoRice4U -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 02:20:31
I'm pretty sure there is, but not too obvious like whitefangs's role claim
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Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 04:20:32
you can't role claim at all. the reason zombo said we can't do now is because my way makes this game way too easy for the townie. technically we shouldn't be penalized because i had permission from zombo to indirectly role-claim. but anywayz..
NoRice..you role-claim was like WTF. 'i love david weis'?
Syrn, about norice, i saw teatime reading the post but never post. he avoided me when i told him to role-claim. at least norice tried.
i want explanation why they didn't role-claim. NoRice and Teatime both of you.
Minche didn't vote for incivibleman twice but so did eriror.
We need more confidence in this game. someone needs to step up and try to accuse someone that weren't before. it looks like everyone is too scared to step up and try something differnent. -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 11:09:49
this is fucking gay
Prod:Teatime
Prod:Teatime
Prod:Teatime
Prod:Teatime
Prod:Teatime -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 11:55:16
Vote Count:
Teatime- 2 (WhiteFang, Eriror)
NoRice4U- 1 (Syrn)
Not voting (6): m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Sleeve, NoRice4U, Teatime
5 to lynch.
prodded teatime.
no, dont give hints a bout your roles please. -
Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 11:07:24
so..how are you everyone..;;
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Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 11:08:51
great
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Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 12:00:15
want to post something interesting?
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Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 14:40:41
I don't understand why I would be trying to help the town so much if I was a mafia...but i really have no defence...I just want to know why I am suspicious in the least bit...Yes, i did vote for Syrn in the beginning, but that was in the beginning. Everyone is usually confused in the beginning of a mafia game...as we are right now?
As for my accusations, I have none at the moment...I want a role-claim from Teatime more than NoRice4u.... -
Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 19:31:33
you're not suspicious. now we're waiting for Teatime's defense/reply.
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Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 00:38:16
wtf happened to the prod? that was over a day ago. I don't even care at this point, does he need more pressure? I want a role claim from Teatime! He hasn't given a response in days, and even if hes not mafia, hes just pissing me off and isn't even helpful to the town anyway. My main reason is his consistent avoidance of role claims.
Should i vote for Teatime? I believe it might be him, but i dont want to get him lynched without using the role claim for the day. I don't think there really is a better use of the role claim right now, idk what the other people think, but if Teatime doesn't talk or role claim within the next 24 hours hes got my vote.
Bottom line is i don't want the role claim to go unused. -
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 01:39:09QUOTE (Sleeve @ Apr 4 2008, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't understand why I would be trying to help the town so much if I was a mafia...but i really have no defence...I just want to know why I am suspicious in the least bit...Yes, i did vote for Syrn in the beginning, but that was in the beginning. Everyone is usually confused in the beginning of a mafia game...as we are right now?
As for my accusations, I have none at the moment...I want a role-claim from Teatime more than NoRice4u....
err..how did you help the townie so much..?
i want role-claim from noRice. if he turns out to be townie we can lynch teatime.
prod:norice4u -
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 02:50:58QUOTEif he turns out to be townie we can lynch teatime.I thought about that too after i posted. The only problem i have is that it is sorta giving into to Teatime's inactivity. It seems like Teatime wont speak anyway so the only person we can turn to is Norice4u to see if he'll speak. I think it could be good either way but I've been doing some thinking.
We have a few different scenarios that could play out.
Teatime role claims-
lynch- not enough info on norice going into next day
keep- means norice would be voted off because he'd be the next most obvious suspect.
Norice4u role claims-
lynch- we still have info on teatime to say that he is also a mafia suspect
keep- means that teatime is very likely mafia because there is already some evidence
If my scenarios are accurate the effectiveness of Norice4u claiming outweighs the effectiveness of Teatime claiming. I think Norice role-claiming is a safer option and will balance out the insight we have on each player. -
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 05:42:17QUOTETeatime role claims-
lynch- not enough info on norice going into next day
keep- means norice would be voted off because he'd be the next most obvious suspect.
Norice4u role claims-
lynch- we still have info on teatime to say that he is also a mafia suspect
keep- means that teatime is very likely mafia because there is already some evidence
or we could just hear the defense from both of them to save us from all the trouble. -
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 06:04:25
All i was saying is that we have one role claim. Of course i want a defense from both of them but a role claim can be a lot more powerful, so i wanted to think out clearly who i wanted to role claim this round. I don't know if you meant it as such, but you seemed to me knocking my whole idea.
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Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 13:03:18
teatime was already prodded a long time ago.
norice4u has been prodded. -
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 13:58:35
Prod them harder....O.o
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Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 16:37:04
if I prod someone and they still don't post, you can assume they're willingly refusing to post.
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Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 19:16:32
I've been thinking too hard on this. Its simple, if Teatime was prodded, and is still not willing to post we can also assume that hes not a town member because hes acting really different and trying to avoid the whole situation by not speaking. Hes trying to get everybody to wait for his role-claim, which will never come, and stall the day until a no lynch. Its been somewhat effective because people are unwilling to proceed without his or Norices role claim, but for now.....
Vote: Teatime
Also, idk what other people think, but before we lynch Teatime, id like a role claim from Norice. I have a feeling hes not gonna speak, so if other people agree it might also be effective for sleeve or minche to role claim, but him not speaking would just make him more suspicious.
There are people that are playing this game but not even speaking. I think its pretty obvious its Teatime right now, and at this point I'd take a role-claim from Norice Sleeve or Minche as well. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 00:02:57
there must be some reason why he's not posting. its just..so stupid for him to not post because he is suspected. he should just try to defend himself. maybe Syrn is right, he's waiting for someone to use the role-claim. but is NoRice as well? i have reason to suspect sleeve as well. she refused to role-claim last day and refusing to defense today. if she is a townie, she's not helping us.
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Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 03:18:55QUOTEmaybe Syrn is right, he's waiting for someone to use the role-claim. but is NoRice as well?
yeah i actually meant Norice as well, now that i reread it i was a bit confusing. "before we lynch Teatime, id like a role claim from Norice. I have a feeling hes not gonna speak, so if other people agree..." i meant it like I have a feeling Norice is not gonna speak either, just like Teatime.
If Norice doesn't role-claim soon I'm going to have to consider him very suspicious as well.
I messed up with my voting earlier by accident.
Unvote: NoRice4u
Vote: Teatime -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 03:20:23
Vote Count:
Teatime- 3 (WhiteFang, Eriror, Syrn)
Not voting (6): m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Sleeve, NoRice4U, Teatime
5 to lynch.
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teatime is at -2. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 03:23:29QUOTEi have reason to suspect sleeve as well. she refused to role-claim last day and refusing to defense today. if she is a townie, she's not helping us.
Sorry but who did you mean by this, Sleeve is a guy, Minche a girl. You either got the names confused or the genders confused. clarify please. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 03:34:54
Let me make this clear to the lazy people who aren't keeping up with the thread but will probably vote really quickly to get a lynch.
DO NOT LYNCH UNTIL WE GET OUR ROLE CLAIM!
If Norice or Teatime don't respond, or if none of them role claim then they basically branded themselves as mafia imo. If they don't respond in a timely fashion then Sleeve or Minche need to role claim. Then we'll proceed with the lynching process after we get that new information. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 04:32:02
Im sorry guys, my mom took my internet
I'm able to be active now, assuming she doesnt take it again. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 04:57:37
oh great your active now.. want to say something useful rather than 'i'm active now'?
i mean sleeve. i got gender confused.. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 05:28:26
NR4U. Why don't you just post your role already, if you're a townie, id expect you'd want to clear your name as well as speed up the really slow game. Seriously, post before your mom "takes your computer away" again. I want to get this over with already.
Your role-claim is...? -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 05:34:44
Why am I suspected? Just becuase I haven't role claimed? As for not contributing... I'm not sure whom I will vote until role claims...what else do you want?
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Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 06:00:27
yea..pretty much. your being suspected because you didn't role-claim. obviously.. eh? last day when we had indirect role-claim, why didn't you role claim? i want to hear that
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Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 08:30:25
I didn't know. Should I provide a hint?
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Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 09:11:38
what? what didn't you know?
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Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 14:57:03QUOTE (Sleeve @ Apr 5 2008, 04:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I didn't know. Should I provide a hint?
no
you either role-claim or you don't. -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 01:17:11
Alright i bet Norice4u is mafia too. He's probably going to say that he couldn't post because his mom took his computer away to stall. I'm pretty sure this is just a lie especially because when he had the chance to post he didn't role claim, and after we made it clear its his turn he still didn't role claim, even though he already logged on today. I think at this point Sleeve might need to role claim.
WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE! No one is fucking posting, this is just making the game boring for those who want to play. Post a damn opinion, or at least who you want role-claims from. Hell, even vote, im starting not to care if we get this role claim because the game is so boring.
The following people have not spoken in a while:
Teatimes been prodded already and hasnt spoken "today"-273 hours ago...over 11 days
Prod: m3x_spinner 177 hours ago...over a week
Prod: hiryuukatana 127.5 hours ago...over 5 days
Prod: Eriror 102.5 hours ago...over 4 days ago
Prod: minche 54.5 hours ago...over 2 days -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 02:54:27
all players prodded.
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 02:57:36
I want a role claim from NoRice.
Don;t give it just yet though.
Some people might not want it from him -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 04:23:55
Ughhhhhhh. No. He should role claim. The thing is, hes probably not gonna talk. If someone was heavily against it, then i guess they should of thought of that before they decided to be lazy and not post. At this point no one has done that and they have had ample amounts of time to do so. It seems as if most people would like claims from Norice at this point. Any one who still says Teatime is delusional, as he hasn't made a post this "day" and has been prodded with no posts.
Teatime has pretty much made it clear he is not gonna talk, so i think we need to speed up this day so we can lynch Teatime already. Its basically between Norice and Sleeve right now. Norice has been inactive and some people have voiced opinions of Sleeve being suspicious. Minche while not out of the picture can role claim "tomorrow". It really doesn't matter it seems as if the town is going to win, probably because of the indirect role claim fiasco.
Norice and Teatime are both very suspicous already with their avoidance tactics. I say Sleeve needs to role claim as its practical because he posts. Norice is welcomed to role-claim before that but hes already logged on today and if he was going to make a role-claim he would have done it already. I think he tried to set up a fake scenario where he could conveniently drift in and out of the game, i don't believe it.
I want Norice to role claim, but he doesn't seem to be willing so Sleeve should role claim.
If anybody disagrees then they can post. -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 04:32:21
Norice4u is active on the board as of now, so he'll role-claim if thats his intention.
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 05:25:42QUOTEI want Norice to role claim, but he doesn't seem to be willing so Sleeve should role claim.
If anybody disagrees then they can post.
i want norice to role claim and if he doesn't? i don't care i still want him to role-claim, not sleeve. we'll get sleeve/minche next round.
yea. i agree with you that norice is lying about computer, but..yea. im also thinking about voting instead of teatime.
dont forget we have to give some time for people to counter-role-claim even after norice role-claims and especially more time because nobody is active here.
Zombo: is teatime replaced yet?
maybe zombo isn't replacing him because he's mafia..? its kinda weird to replace a mafia... -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 10:51:52
So, who are we going with? Teatime or NoRice? I'm also not afraid to role-claim...in fact, it would be a waste to use it on me.
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 11:06:58QUOTE (Sleeve @ Apr 5 2008, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I didn't know. Should I provide a hint?
wat didn't you know? answer the question.
and you do realise you can give out your opinion too you know.. not just follow the crowd. -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 12:42:26
nobody has been replaced so far.
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 18:22:23
i want a role claim from minche but norice comes first.
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 18:34:21
Geez, haven't I posted everything I wanted to already?
I voted for Teatime to pressure him, I want a role claim from NoRice4U, and otherwise someone else. Geez, if it's necessary, even I would role claim. -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 20:01:02
Oh jeez, sorry guys I completely forgot. I've been up to my neck with stuff these past 2 weeks, and I never had the time to properly play.
Zombo you can go ahead and find a replacement.
I ask that you ignore the past week+ as part of this game, it doesn't have anything to do with it. I did not purposefully ignore the game, I just didn't have time. -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 23:55:22
sadi the pirate is the replacement for Teatime
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 00:40:39
uhhh~~~~~helllooooo everybody, i just joined this game and i am trying to catch up with wat everyone has posted so far, so if there is any role-claiming im supposed to be doing i suppose everyone wouldnt mind retelling me?
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 01:00:57
I cant exactly decide if id still want Teatime/Sadi to role-claim now that there's a replacement it doesn't totally seem like he is/was trying to avoid the role-claim. Unless he purposely went so far as to get replaced to help the mafia... Idk, right now I'd rather see Norice role claim. This replacement sure is going to change up the game though.
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 02:17:21
-After reading most of the previous posts, I personally would be suspecting retro-spectre of mafia if he was not already killed ~_~, but that could just be because I personally dislike him. Before you make any accusations of me because of my over posting or quick accusations, just remember that I am both new at the game (not using as a defense) and I have just now entered the game and have not read every single post, but have done more of a quick skimming.
-I disregarded most of the first day, considering it did not really lead to anything but a non-lynching.
-Invincibleman was eliminated because he had more information then he should yet he was also accused of avoiding posts right before he was lynched. Regardless of whether this was a good approach that we took, it ended up successfully getting a mafia so I beilive that we should use this and not wait like we did the first night.
-It seems to me that people that are inactive r mostly the ones that are targeted, is it because they are simply avoiding role claims, or because they do not have enough time on their hands to defend themselves?QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 25 2008, 03:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah, cos I know if I were mafia, I would just sit there and let myself be lynched.
-looking at previous votes and inactivity this leads me to not trust Mex_spinner(who made a bit of a hasty role claim...) or Eriror at all…but I do not want a role-claim yet.
-Personally I think that Syrn has made a few too many brash accusations…he did not push invincible man when he could of, and now he seems to have a new accusation in every post…QUOTE (Syrn @ Apr 6 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I cant exactly decide if id still want Teatime/Sadi to role-claim now that there's a replacement it doesn't totally seem like he is/was trying to avoid the role-claim. Unless he purposely went so far as to get replaced to help the mafia... Idk, right now I'd rather see Norice role claim. This replacement sure is going to change up the game though.
-U make a very good point when u say that Teatime may have simply been leaving to replace me, but you must take in consideration of whether he would really give up playing a game just to help someone else in the game lol. I see where you are going but I would prefer at this point that we are certain of who to lynch, considering that it will be more and more risky as time goes on NOT to lynch someone…
-Requesting role claim from Syrn, but don’t give it yet, considering how inactive it has been and others may want to pressure others (especially me lulz) now that Teamtime has has a replacement ~_~.
-I really want to side with what mat was saying previously considering how active he was in the game, but he had those random acts of randomliness so i think i will just make a note for now...
Vote:Syrn for uhh….pressure??
this very large post may be my last for a little while considering all my homwrk, but we will see how things work out lol….this makes me sound so guilty doesn’t it
… o wells, I phail...the best defense im gunna go with incase anyone makes a roleclaim is: im not mafia =P
p.s. whats a bandwagon syndrom Eriror ~_~?
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 02:19:27
Bandwagon syndrome is where you just do what everybody else is doing
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 02:21:39
edit: im nipickity about posting the wrong wrd lolz...one of my has should be a HAD
QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Apr 6 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Bandwagon syndrome is where you just do what everybody else is doing
soooo its like somthing that would lead to someone being accused of being a mafia or total confusion or both? -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 03:06:52
i think you might be disregarding role claims as valid. Basically I role claimed JEB and i did it first day i believe which means if anyone else had JEB im sure they would have counter claimed. Basically i claimed to be from the most popular board in psing, so that must have been a role to be given out when Zombo was deciding boards. If i was not from JEB than the person who "really" is would have let everybody know im lying. No one did that so its pretty generally accepted that im a townie. Seriously stop playing this like its the first or second day of mafia, accusing because of the way people post. weve had tons of role claims already, and anybody smart enough would realize its between 4 people right now Sadi/Teatime, Norice, Sleeve, and Minche.
WHy do you make me post this...you're just being really bad at the game, so now i have to unnecessarily post to defend myself. Seriously think damnit... Obviously im gonna change my opinions as the game goes on. I didnt vote for Invincibleman because i thought at the time it was Mats and how would that look for me if i switched from voting to Mats, just to lynch Invincibleman, and he turned out townie. That would be dumb and at the time, i had just defended invincibleman because i thought mats was picking apart his posts too much and it was for dumb reasons so i genuinely thought invincibleman was townie. Mats ended up being right but i still say his reasons werent that solid.
Goddamnit, just read through the thread thoroughly and youll see ive already defended myself numerous times. Also youll be delighted to note that your boy TEATIME DIDNT VOTE WHEN HE COULDVE LYNCHED Invincibleman. so honestly shutup. your pissing me off because you have no reading comprehension level. you are essentially Teatime, so its hypocritical to day that im mafia for not lynching invincible man when "you" didnt either. and Eriror, minche, and SLeeve did not vote invincible man as well if my memory serves me correct.
ALso wtf is voting for "pressure" supposed to mean i role claimed already. i dont need to defend myself but i will just to prove you wrong. If lets say you did just recieve the role of Mafia, it seems pretty clear that you are just trying to blame others and try and get them killed using terrible logic imo. Its funny because you dont understand the game enough yet that we see how mafia you really are. You just blatantly voted for a known townie...good job mafia.
If anyone needs to role claim its YOU!!!!!!! lets not forget have 3 votes on your ass.
Yes my thoughts are ever changing...have a problem? its called the progression of the game, and this day has been particularly hectic.
I wanted a role claim from Teatime all along btw if you read.... but it seemed like he was purposefully avoiding it so i opted for Norice which would have also been helpful and maybe more practical because he wasnt completely silent, then he was pretty damn silent so i was thinking about sleeve as well because Norice seemed to be avoiding it and i didn't think that he'd ever role claim so i was being practical.
NoRice4u still is my first choice for role claims then Teatime/Sadi now that hes active. Btw i think Whitefang is gonna have a field day with you. -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 03:42:35
mrm...
QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Apr 6 2008, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>o wells, I phail...QUOTE (Syrn @ Apr 6 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so honestly shutup. your pissing me off because you have no reading comprehension level.
even though i see the stupidty of my post (especially accusing u when i didnt realize how you made that role claim =P)...in my only defense, i already told you that i did not read through the entire thread, and i have just been the replacement in the middle of a complex game which i have never played before...
in any case...
unvote: Syrn
this is gunna be fun for me now ~_~?
-i should really re-read my posts before posting from now on then just posting useless giberish that will lead to nothing...now if i cause the townies to lose, every townie is gunna hate me for screwing it up for them w/ my self-rape....
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 07:34:11
maybe you should read the whole thread before accusing anyone. guess what..? its my first proper mafia too. so dont make that excuse
QUOTEOh jeez, sorry guys I completely forgot. I've been up to my neck with stuff these past 2 weeks, and I never had the time to properly play.
Zombo you can go ahead and find a replacement.
I ask that you ignore the past week+ as part of this game, it doesn't have anything to do with it. I did not purposefully ignore the game, I just didn't have time.
he is lying. i saw him reading this thread few times about a week ago but he didn't post anything. honestly how could he forget? you get a pm from zombo when you get prodded. (i think)
he got replaced by zombo like 3 hours after he posted. he could've easily role-claimed and everything would've been fine.
why is NoRice keep avoiding the whole role-claim thing? i want a role-claim from norice or sadi. any one of you, just fucking do it. stop fucking ignoring it. -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 14:39:42
@ WF: I didn't know I had to role claim or anything of the sort...so thats that...
I don't understand why NoRice is not trying to defend himself? So I want a role claim from him. i also side with the fact that i saw Teatime reading the fourm and therefore had time to roleclaim and didn't. So I would also like a role-claim from Tea/Sadi. So whatever one works for me...let's just this thing on the roll...no more defending I want claims of roles! -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 23:08:38
I don't get it Norice and Sadi, are you guys both saying your mafia? I know a townie would want to role claim to help the town decide who really is mafia, and to prove their innocence. If any of you are townies then role claim, otherwise we can just assume your both mafia. In our town's corrupt little system you guys are both guilty until proven innocent.
May I have your attention please?
May I have your attention please?
Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
I repeat, will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
We're gonna have a problem here...
-Eminem -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 23:16:06
Sleeve: remember how you said you have no reason to role-claim and that you won't? just before invisibleman got lynched? so why are you saying you didn't know?
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Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 00:52:48
Role Claim: Representative - DPSB
happy? -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 01:46:48
0 role claim left.
Vote Count:
sadi teh pirate- 3 (WhiteFang, Eriror, Syrn)
Not voting (6): m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Sleeve, NoRice4U, sadi teh pirate
5 to lynch. -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 02:14:58QUOTE (Syrn @ Apr 7 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't get it Norice and Sadi, are you guys both saying your mafia?
wait, lolwut? -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 02:29:45
you didn't get it? try reading the post all the way through again. It was somewhat sarcastic but had some truth to it. it should be made more clear later in the post. if not i cant really help you.
Also i still think Sadi is mafia. He picked one of the most unknown boards in psing. It seems like a really mafia thing to do, to pick the most unknown board and try to claim with it because it probably wasn't a board assigned. They to my knowledge haven't as a board participated in anything big. They only have 32 members on their whole board who have even posted once, and much less active members.
read this post to see how little members they have. it was posted a while ago but i went to their site and saw their member list. its pretty much true, maybe a couple more active members, but thats it.
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...post&p=1788
read this on some general info on their general inactivity
http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/DPSB
I doubt Zombo would pick that board to be a representative with it in such an undeveloped stage, no one would believe anyone is from that board and it would lead to unnecessary lynchings of town members if he put it in from the start...which is why i think he didnt put it in.
Make sense? good.
I'd still encourage people to vote for Sadi even after the role claim. it was just so weak. -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 02:47:39
but then again, he is new to the game, so doesnt know too much about it yet, so Im not sure who to vote for yet
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Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 02:55:52
but thats not even to mention the Teatime events. Teatime had also made himself very suspicious even before and also because of his replacement. there are so many parts to this story that make it complete but most have been mentioned already. this is just another addition to the teatime/sadi mafia theory.
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Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 03:05:17
before accusing me of -
QUOTE (Syrn @ Apr 7 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Teatime had also made himself very suspicious-remember that NR4U had the ability to make a role-claim when he didnt...
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Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 03:12:17
edit: *didnt role-claim when he had the ability to*
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Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:08:39QUOTE (Zombo @ Apr 7 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>0 role claim left.
w8....we only had one role claim??? -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:14:12
yep because whitefang used the other one in the last day, er well he indirectly used it
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Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 06:11:07QUOTE (Syrn @ Apr 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I doubt Zombo would pick that board to be a representative with it in such an undeveloped stage, no one would believe anyone is from that board and it would lead to unnecessary lynchings of town members if he put it in from the start...which is why i think he didnt put it in.
wat are all the possible boards that would be used besides the ones already claimed do u think? this could be a bad route to take, but things seem sorta slow with only the 4(?) of us talking... -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 06:44:06
i really doubt that zombo picked DPSB for mafia. he probably got the 'famous' ones. wats the chance that someone who is highly suspected gets the role of a board some people never heard of? (or is it just me..)
QUOTEw8....we only had one role claim???
before posting anymoar. read the whole fucking thread.QUOTE-remember that NR4U had the ability to make a role-claim when he didnt...
remember youu dont did it because you had no other choice? and teatime had the chance since the day one but didn't. and he still avoided to role-claim when we had indirect..?
everyone vote for him!!
this sucks because we dont have Tialys narrating anymore.. i loved his narration. -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 13:33:55QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Apr 8 2008, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>remember youu dont did it because you had no other choice
hm? -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 14:12:54
i have heard of the DPSB until you gave that wiki article...maybe Zombo chose it because it represents a country, i dont really know...but are u guys really going to Lynch a towny cause hes bad at making himself look innocent?
Prod: M3x_spinner
Prod: Minche
Prod: Eriror -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 14:42:37
I actually agree with Sadi here. It is hard to just jump into a mafia game, plus the replacement was tageted, which puts even more stress on him. I think his role claim is legit for now. I think we should go with our plan and get NoRice, because that was our plan right? To lynch the person who didn't role claim?
We can get Sadi later if we didn't get the mafia? -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 20:00:08
We cant just plan to lynch the person who didn't role claim. We first have to assess whether the role claim is real, in this situation it seems very very fake. Also if you read some of the other accusations it seems like the best possible choice. There is the mos compiled evidence.
Just to note, Sleeve...you defending him with that much evidence on him doesn't look good. At least when I defended Invincibleman I had more of a reason than basically saying i believe him because he sound like hes being honest. It being "hard" to jump into a mafia game has no relation to whether he is mafia or not. You cant just sit there and defend him when the mafia role could have been given to anyone. You know what i hear you saying "omg i feel so bad it must have been so hard coming in blind like this, I'm just gonna neglect the possibility you're mafia because I'm mafia as well." haha.
Also @Sadi, you signed up in the replacement thread, you should have been following along with the game and ready to take your place if needed. Thats like a vice president saying, "hold on, i didn't think the president was really going to get shot. Give me some time so i can catch up with whats going on." -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 04:20:30QUOTE (Syrn @ Apr 8 2008, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thats like a vice president saying, "hold on, i didn't think the president was really going to get shot. Give me some time so i can catch up with whats going on."
hmmm...seems like a bit of an overstatement to me...
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Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 04:53:40QUOTEhm?
you knew if norice role-claimed we would've lynched you. so obviously that the reason why you did it.QUOTEbut are u guys really going to Lynch a towny cause hes bad at making himself look innocent?
umm..yes?QUOTETo lynch the person who didn't role claim?
We can get Sadi later if we didn't get the mafia?
lets see who didn't role-claim....you? -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 05:25:11QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Apr 8 2008, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>remember youu dont did it because you had no other choice
i just meant that i didnt really understand what u were saying because added the word "Dont" when u didnt need it?...i do that all the time so i dont care, but just so thats cleared up now...why am i being put up on a cross, (when 4 other people have not made role claims????) because of hesitation? or because there was a switch in players (because he was obviously too busy to play, if he was too busy to make a role-claim) and that seems like it would somehow help the mafia?? Yes that particular board is small, but what other boards could the 4 innocent people around me be from? You seem to be trying really hard to make evidence to kill a towny; i wonder if Eriror would even keep his vote, if he hasnt already read the posts since i switched with Teatime... -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 05:57:40
There are enough boards the other people could be from, and yes, I would be keeping my vote. DPSB... Come on. It's not even in the "Around the World" collab, and that particular video has like.. A LOT of boards.
Why vote for the people who didn't role claim? Well.. No one pressured me to make a role claim. You avoided making one at first. And when you make one, voila! One of the most unknown boards in mankind. Aside from the DPC, which doesn't even exist anymore. But yeah... It just doesn't look real to me. I'm not going to give a list of other boards, because another mafia might even pick a better one to choose. -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 06:04:11QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Apr 9 2008, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You avoided making one at first.
Teatime was too busy, and when it gets passed on to me, the first thing i do is ask if someone would like me to role-claim... -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 10:10:31
you didn't have to ask, you just had to read wat Syrn? or someone else said. and teatime wasn't really busy to play. he avoided me last day as well as this day. he was reading the thread and comon how long does it take to write 'dpsb' if thats where your from..
QUOTENo one pressured me to make a role claim.
i pressured you and you kinda did role-claim. if you know what i mean
this game started with 12 players.
WhiteFang
m3x_spinner
hiryuukatan
minche
Mats
NoRice4U
sadi teh pirate (Teatime)
Eriror
Sleeve
Syrn
Invicibleman
Retro-Spectre
and there were 6 role-claims made
ThaiSpinner
PDS
JEC
GPC
Swespin
*DPSB*
UPSB (dead-retro)
there were also one more role-claim made last day which i can't mention.
everyone role-claims made except DPSB is one of the major psing board. and all except DPSB is in the WC. so i'm guessing that every board here should be in WC. 10 boards in WC. 12 players. and 2 mafia. make sense? i'm sure zombo included all 10 teams in the WC to be unbiased. which mean DPSB can't be in it because that would make 11 townie and we already got 1 mafia. so imo DPSB wasn't even included here.
defend yourself
STOP FUCKING USING THE EXCUSE ABOUT YOU BEING REPLACED AND ALL THAT SHIT. ITS NOT GOING TO WORK. I DON'T CARE IF YOU WERE REPLACEMENT OR NOT. IF YOUR GOING TO USE THAT EXCUSE WE MAY AS WELL REPLACE HIM BACK TO TEATIME. -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 10:19:59
btw, are m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, NoRice not voting because they believe sadi is not a mafia or because they can't be fucked to check this thread..? i want their opinions too.
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Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 14:21:41QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Apr 9 2008, 05:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>10 boards in WC. 12 players. and 2 mafia. make sense?
2 mafia seems a bit low doesnt it?QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Apr 9 2008, 05:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>btw, are m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, NoRice not voting because they believe sadi is not a mafia or because they can't be fucked to check this thread..? i want their opinions too.
same.... -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 19:29:07
I don't like the idea of voting for Sadi as mafia, but you guys do have overwhelming evidence and suggestions that he is, so i will vote for Sadi, but when we are wrong I'll say I told you so, and when we are right I will go good job team. I just don't have a good feeling about this one. So let's just get the mobbing on...
Vote: Sadi/Teatime....*sigh* -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 19:42:03
lets get this day over
Vote: Sadi -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 22:22:34
Please do not post after the lynching vote. All subsequent posts deleted. This is the second time I've had to delete posts.
sadi teh pirate is the Mafia Godfather.
Active Players:
WhiteFang -- claims to be a representative for PDS
m3x_spinner -- claims to be a representative for ThaiSpinner
hiryuukatana -- claims to be a representative for SweSpin
minche
NoRice4U
Eriror
Sleeve
Syrn -- claims to be a representative for JEB
Eliminated players:
Day 3
sadi teh pirate - Mafia Godfather - SpinZ
Night 2
Mats - Representative - GPC
Day 2
Invicibleman - Mafia Agent - SpinZ
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB
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Thread locked for the night.
Mafia can now communicate privately.
If you have night action(s), PM your choice to me ASAP. I will end the night when I receive everybody's choice. If I don't receive your choice within 48 hours, I will assume you're doing nothing! But to speed up the process, if you choose to do nothing, PM me anyway! -
Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 14:34:25
Day 4
Whitefang was eliminated during the night. He was a representative for PDS and a doctor.
Active Players:
m3x_spinner -- claims to be a representative for ThaiSpinner
hiryuukatana -- claims to be a representative for SweSpin
minche
NoRice4U
Eriror
Sleeve
Syrn -- claims to be a representative for JEB
Eliminated players:
Night 3
WhiteFang - Representative - Doctor - PDS
Day 3
sadi teh pirate - Mafia Godfather - SpinZ
Night 2
Mats - Representative - GPC
Day 2
Invicibleman - Mafia Agent - SpinZ
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB
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Mafia communication must cease.
7 remaining, 4 to lynch. 2 role claims.
WhiteFang is allowed a death rant. -
Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 15:36:50
Sadi: hahahahaha as soon as you were replaced you died!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
dear remaining mafia:
Spoiler:
Dear Townies:
i just want to say good luck and want you to know that i am never wrong! Invisibleman, Sadi. i am never wrong. if you know what i mean
hahaha
zombo: am i allow to sign up for replacement for mafia? -
Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 16:43:03
no.
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Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 16:57:36
well to start this off i definitely want role claims from NORICE4U! and the other role claim i want is Sleeve. Norice4u has been able to avoid role claims for quite some days now!
Today, Norice4u, you must role claim. I think, that he is the only mafia left, he didn't vote for Sadi as well. If there is another Mafia left it is Sleeve, but right now i really doubt it.
Also, a note to the other townies, lets say for some horrendously, ridiculous reason we lynch NoRice4u, and at the end of the day were wrong. It really doesn't even matter, because the next day well have full role claims from EVERYONE.
Anyway, Norice4u really needs to role claim and give an enormous defense, because if you have been keeping up with the thread there is a ton of evidence towards him. I wasn't wrong with my vote on Sadi and he had a lot of collected evidence on him, so I am almost 100% sure that Norice4u is mafia.
Again, DON'T lynch until we get our two role claims.
Vote: Norice4u
Defense? Role claim? -
Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 17:14:47
I did vote for Sadi, But Zombo deleted my post because it was after the killing vote, I didnt realize i voted after the killing vote
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Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 17:52:50
well, i didn't see that, but, I don't believe that you didn't realize it was after the killing vote. I think you did that to try and save your own ass and make believe your innocent by throwing your vote on something that doesn't even matter. If you were mafia, which I'm gonna assume you are now, then that would make perfect sense... you vote for the mafia after you know they are already gonna get lynched so whats the harm, its pretty simple to realize when the hammer vote is, and I bet you did.
That is not a good excuse, you did nothing for the town by voting after the hammer vote, and obviously its at no loss for you if the mafia is already dead to vote for them. If anything, this makes you more suspicious, saying you didn't realize...I know that there were people who voted after the hammer vote yesterday, but after Zombo made if perfectly clear last time there is no excuse.
Stop avoiding the role-claim!!!!!!!! DO IT ALREADY! You had a chance to do it yesterday before Sadi even came into the game, and you had a chance your last post.QUOTEI know that there were people who voted after the hammer vote after invincibleman was killed, but after Zombo made if perfectly clear last time there is no excuse.
correction... -
Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 23:09:12
I want the role-claim from NoRice4U as well. So let's see it Ricey!
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Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 16:27:42
Oh yeah, good job team! I guess I was wrong...-.-'
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Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 19:15:22
cmon norice...stop avoiding it!
umm Sleeve your role-claim is less important to me but seeing as how no one else is participating I know I wouldn't mind hearing your role claim today. After Norice role claims you definitely have to role claim, but your welcomed to claim beforehand to clear your name imo.
I still want to hear some other voices today. -
Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 02:06:55
i was gone over the weekend and was not able to make a death rant...but if this is too late then you can delete it Zombo:
I am pretty bad at this game, but i want to be in the next game (if there is one) and try to play a bit more conservatively...until then, thank you for allowing me to replace you Teatime (even though it wasnt a very good position) and thank you guys for helping me learn not to make the mistakes i previously did.
*bleeds on Syrn*
*Dies* -
Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 04:06:35
so, we just waiting for norice?
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Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 04:24:44
Umm, kinda, Sleeve is gonna have to role claim by the end of the day...might as well do it asap. There will be more reason to press Norice4u for the role claim if Sleeve seems genuinely townie, because them it would narrow it down to 2 people who are mafia... and if it were between minche and Norice, Id definitely pick Norice, unless he role claims, and gives us reason why not to pick him.
Now that hes avoiding role claims, and also gave a complete bullshit reason on how he voted for sadi, (but it was after the hammer vote, so its really not proving that hes townie at all...see my above post for the better explanation) I'm really suspecting Norice4u.
Heres what i propose now, Sleeve role claim, if Norice doesn't role claim fast enought, then we can just lynch his ass. I'm pretty sure that'll end the game anyway. -
Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 04:26:20
ok, 4 people 2 role claims...... idk yet dude
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Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 04:34:53
are you denying that your the most suspicious out of everyone? I'm pretty sure you know most people suspect you so if you really are townie, you have a chance to prove it.
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Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 14:37:56
Im a rep. from Penzone...I'm not scared to represent!
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Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 16:52:09
1 role claim left.
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Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 17:17:23
NoRice4U, stop avoiding the role claim, for freaking sake. You're not making it any easier for yourself. >_< It seems everyone wants one from you, so there's no reason to say the other two have to make one. Just do it.
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Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 17:41:09
Vote Count:
NoRice4U- 1 (Syrn)
Not voting (6): Eriror, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche, Sleeve, NoRice4U
4 to lynch. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 17:29:18
Ok, I'm sick of this now, I'd just vote off NoRice4U to get this game going. This isn't fun anymore. =/ No Townie would avoid making a role claim for this long.
Vote: NoRice4U -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 18:32:10
ya, i agree that a townie wouldnt avoid a role calim for that long...minche has been very inactive as well. Hmmm, other people can comment on this, but i think Minche should role claim, and we'll kill Norice. Well find out what Norice was when hes dead, if hes not gonna give a normal role claim. Then we'll at least get the role claim for today, instead of waiting for Norice who isnt goin to role calim because hes a mafia...
so if other people agree...then Norice should role claim if he choses to do so, but Minche can role claim as soon as she sees this, if other people agree with me. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 00:54:27
VOTE: NoRice
Because he doesn't want to give his role.
And because he keeps on avoiding it. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 00:57:57
I claim to represent
oops i clicked add reply before i could finish it
I represent PPP(if you dont know, Rarka, etc. in wc08) -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 01:19:50
0 role claim left.
Vote Count:
NoRice4U- 3 (Syrn, Eriror, m3x_spinner)
Not voting (4): hiryuukatana, minche, Sleeve, NoRice4U
4 to lynch. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 02:39:38
whoever lynches next is mafia.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 03:24:36
umm not necessarily true...because i wouldnt mind seeing the outcome of what norice is, honestly we have a couple of shots...if norice is wrong its not like the townies are gonna lose, there cant be that many mafia, and my gut feeling still tells me its norice especially with his hammer vote on invincibleman, because after we found out teatime/sadi was mafia, it was obvious that the mafia were in there trying to cover their asses. I think lynching norice may be what WF wanted, and he wasn't wrong with 2 other people. also for this reason...
QUOTEI think you did that to try and save your own ass and make believe your innocent by throwing your vote on something that doesn't even matter. If you were mafia, which I'm gonna assume you are now, then that would make perfect sense... you vote for the mafia after you know they are already gonna get lynched so whats the harm, its pretty simple to realize when the hammer vote is, and I bet you did.
That is not a good excuse, you did nothing for the town by voting after the hammer vote, and obviously its at no loss for you if the mafia is already dead to vote for them. If anything, this makes you more suspicious, saying you didn't realize...I know that there were people who voted after the hammer vote yesterday, but after Zombo made if perfectly clear last time there is no excuse.
and he defended Sadi too,QUOTEbut then again, he is new to the game, so doesnt know too much about it yet, so Im not sure who to vote for yet confusedsmilie.gif, but then again so did sleeve, and sleeve role claimed too. whatever people do what you want, I just think its a risk id be willing to take, if it doesnt turn out right then well get minche and eriror's role claim tommorow. I just think he has the most evidence on him, and he avoided it for a long time. unfortunately Penzone and PPP are on the smaller side of boards i believe so they both arent very strong role claims.
Honestly I dont care, I dont think were really gonna find that much dirt on the other players, and the game isnt going to go anywhere if we stall...i also dont think we should lynch minche just because she didnt role claim...but i do believe she should speak up.
And on a more personal note aside form the game...it getting kinda boring lets just make a decision and see where it leads.
edit: oh i meant we shouldn't lynch minche because she didn't role claim, because we didn't ask after all. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 14:49:53
Ill pound the nail for the coffin of NoRoce...
Vote NoRince4U -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 17:28:29
NoRice4U is a PC agent.
Active Players:
m3x_spinner -- claims to be a representative for ThaiSpinner
hiryuukatana -- claims to be a representative for SweSpin
minche
Eriror
Sleeve -- claims to be a representative for Penzone
Syrn -- claims to be a representative for JEB
Eliminated players:
Day 3
NoRice4U - Mafia Agent - PC
Night 3
WhiteFang - Representative - Doctor - PDS
Day 3
sadi teh pirate - Mafia Godfather - SpinZ
Night 2
Mats - Representative - GPC
Day 2
Invicibleman - Mafia Agent - SpinZ
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB
=====================================================
Thread locked for the night.
Mafia can now communicate privately.
If you have night action(s), PM your choice to me ASAP. I will end the night when I receive everybody's choice. If I don't receive your choice within 48 hours, I will assume you're doing nothing! But to speed up the process, if you choose to do nothing, PM me anyway! -
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 16:42:54
Syrn is eliminated.
Active Players:
m3x_spinner -- claims to be a representative for ThaiSpinner
hiryuukatana -- claims to be a representative for SweSpin
minche
Eriror
Sleeve -- claims to be a representative for Penzone
Eliminated players:
Night 4
Syrn - Representative - JEB
Day 4
NoRice4U - Mafia Agent - PC
Night 3
WhiteFang - Representative - Doctor - PDS
Day 3
sadi teh pirate - Mafia Godfather - SpinZ
Night 2
Mats - Representative - GPC
Day 2
Invicibleman - Mafia Agent - SpinZ
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB
3 to lynch, 2 role claims -
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 16:45:12
Let's start with a bang, I'm from FPSB. Minche, role claim.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 16:55:03
Woah, I'm honored to be killed, that means the mafia truly felt I was a threat...cool. Yeah so by the end of today you get full role claims, hope that works out well.
I'm just unsure of one thing Zombo...it says in the most recent post Norice4u is still active even after revealing his role as a mafia agent from the pencil council. Does that mean he got saved somehow and the town needs to lynch him again? His role was already revealed...this must be a mistake of some sort or its just really odd.
Well good luck everyone have fun, and do the town a favor and post more frequently if you can.
cya. k thx bye. -
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 17:02:03
1 role claim left.
oops sorry thats a mistake, NR4U is eliminted.
it takes 3 to lynch. -
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 19:11:57
i missed the whole day (too much quad )
I'm from PPP -
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 20:21:01
0 role claim left
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 01:16:04
Im voting minche because she uses PPP which the last mafia member used. I think it's a desperate grab....
Vote: Minche -
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 01:53:51
Vote Count:
minche- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (5): Eriror, NoRice4U, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche
4 to lynch. -
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 03:37:22QUOTE (Zombo @ Apr 21 2008, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Vote Count:
minche- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (5): Eriror, NoRice4U, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche
4 to lynch.
you did it again. NoRice4U can't vote..
and btw whats a PC agent? -
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 04:17:19
u died D: and so did i
pc = pencil council agent -
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 15:00:30
Vote Count:
minche- 1 (Sleeve)
Not voting (4): Eriror, m3x_spinner, hiryuukatana, minche
3 to lynch. -
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 15:17:03
Prod Everyone
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 14:34:00
*Penspins waiting for people to talk*
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 22:53:37
i get this feeling that minche is mafia ever since the very first day when retro-spectre was killed.
VOTE: minche -
Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 22:58:16
Vote Count:
minche- 2 (Sleeve, hiryuukatana)
Not voting (3): Eriror, m3x_spinner, minche
3 to lynch.
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Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 14:38:13
Come on people....one more.....
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Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 05:23:20
I bet this is wrong, but you seem to be right. >_<
Vote: Minche -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 12:36:43
minche is mafia
game over.
TOWN WINS!
Survivors:
m3x_spinner - Representative - ThaiSpinner
hiryuukatana - Representative - SweSpin
Eriror - Representative - FPSB
Sleeve - Representative - Penzone
Eliminated players:
Day 5
minche - Mafia Agent - PC
Night 4
Syrn - Representative - JEB
Day 4
NoRice4U - Mafia Agent - PC
Night 3
WhiteFang - Representative - Doctor - PDS
Day 3
sadi teh pirate - Mafia Godfather - SpinZ
Night 2
Mats - Representative - GPC
Day 2
Invicibleman - Mafia Agent - SpinZ
Night 1
Retro-Spectre - Representative - Cop - UPSB
feel free to talk in here instead of a PGT -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 12:53:14
minche was in a team with Norice? i thought Norice was by himself.
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Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 13:04:41QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Apr 24 2008, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>minche was in a team with Norice? i thought Norice was by himself.
why would you think that? -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 13:15:46
Nice job guys!!!
Nailed a mafia everytime!!! -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 13:28:07QUOTE (Zombo @ Apr 24 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why would you think that?
idn. i just always thought the mafias were Invicibleman, Teatime, Eriror. and Norice was a 3rd party thing by himself where he just needs to survive because he didn't care about who, he just voted everyone like hell. i think i said this before i died.. i guess i was wrong about eriror. but only reason i suspected teatime and invicibleman was because i thought Eriror was defending them. didn't even think minche was a mafia.
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...4378&st=220
question to mafias. why the fuck didn't you hammer vote me? invicibleman and teatime both of you had a chance to lynch me. if you just lynched me i wouldn't have time for suspecting you two. -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 14:35:57
Mwahahahaha! Nice job my fellow townies! Can we play again?...I love mafia!
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Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 15:17:41QUOTE (Sleeve @ Apr 24 2008, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mwahahahaha! Nice job my fellow townies! Can we play again?...I love mafia! this mafia game was so inactive, no way I'm doing another one.
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Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 15:30:30QUOTE (Zombo @ Apr 25 2008, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> this mafia game was so inactive, no way I'm doing another one.
thats because whenever a mafia was suspected, they just disappeared and didn't post anything instead of trying to defend themself. -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 15:46:26
you cant blame mafia players for not doing anything,
if they dont anything, force them to do it, if they don't often then it means they're mafia
if all town players are active and all mafia players are inactive, its very easy. -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 15:55:25
we our whole focus is in 'X' and we want him to role claim. there isn't much to say if he just doesn't post at all. we need X's role claim to continue the discussion. o well..i see what you mean and i do agree this mafia was inactive as hell.
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Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 17:17:59
then just lynch him already
it doesnt matter if you mislynch or not.
because even if you mislynch, you gained info that will help you -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 18:53:33
fuck,
i wanted to get in on a game
its been a while since i played
but if you're not going to make one whatever
if you do in the future though let me know
i always miss sign ups -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 19:27:54
this game was just so confusing and inactive
and those 'role claims' ruined the whole game imo
and NR4U wasn't mafia from begining -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 21:22:22
Town did a good job lynching mafia every day, game was too slow though.
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Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:56:23
fun game~~~i want to do another one (w/o being fucked over this time)
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Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 00:18:21
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 05:02:20QUOTE (minche @ Apr 25 2008, 05:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>this game was just so confusing and inactive
and those 'role claims' ruined the whole game imo
and NR4U wasn't mafia from begining
what? really? can you and NoRice quote your roles? i don't get what PC is. -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 08:33:24
i was PC agent but i don't know what PC is :/
and that day was so weird, we all had a chance to lynch you, but we didn't and then you started those 'role claims' -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 08:58:11
yep.. if you lynched me. there would've been no indirect role claims.
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Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 10:49:30
PC is Pencil Council, see the first mafia game on UCPSB.
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Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 13:39:19
Doood, I just spent like an hour reading through like 15 pages. T_T
Mafia is an interesting game indeed, but what really drew my attention was Tialy's creative writing.
Well done. -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 13:50:49QUOTE (Hellblaza @ Apr 25 2008, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Doood, I just spent like an hour reading through like 15 pages. T_T
Mafia is an interesting game indeed, but what really drew my attention was Tialy's creative writing.
Well done.
ya, its really to bad he stopped... -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 23:18:17
minche said nr4u wasn't mafia from the start post game...
Zombo, were there any hints or special directions that would be interesting to read if you posted everyones pm?
If so I'd like to see it. Yah rah rah rah....pretty cool. too easy though.
If i were Minche I would have counter claimed Norice4u yesterday to keep yourself alive and you would have come off innocent. too bad you didnt pick up on that.
Fun game, too slow though. -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 23:28:58
Had fun until I died of course. The beginning of the game was good but it died down after some time.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 00:08:49
Many ppl had a "secret agenda" which could confer them a special power / info if they fulfilled the conditions.
However, NOBODY CLAIMED their reward.
For instance hiryuukatana had to make sure both role claims were used up in a single day to claim his reward. But he never ever claimed it. He would have gotten the info that there are 2 mafia factions in the game.
Mats had the objective to "vote hop" 5 times in a single day. I think he managed it in day 2, but he died that night.
Sleeve had to be the leading poster by the end of a day. But he never achived it.
Some ppl had objectives to always satisfy otherwise they LOSE powers. Whitefang had to make sure he didn't get any vote on him by the end of a day, Retro had to never role claim.
The official mafia group consists of Teatime, Invicibleman and Minche. minche however worked for PC and not SpinZ. Teatime knew about this. However, the PC was instructed to work in collaboration with the SpinZ for the whole game. But if Teatime felt suspicious, he cuold have killed minche. NR4U was a undercover mafia agent that nobody knew about. If something would happen to minche or that the SpinZ are eliminated, he would be able to contact her and join the "official" mafia. -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 07:03:16QUOTEHowever, NOBODY CLAIMED their reward.
i thought i claimed it by protecting something. i just missed both times.. -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 09:40:03QUOTE (Syrn @ Apr 26 2008, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>minche said nr4u wasn't mafia from the start post game...
Zombo, were there any hints or special directions that would be interesting to read if you posted everyones pm?
If so I'd like to see it. Yah rah rah rah....pretty cool. too easy though.
If i were Minche I would have counter claimed Norice4u yesterday to keep yourself alive and you would have come off innocent. too bad you didnt pick up on that.
Fun game, too slow though.
i would've counter claim too, but i missed the whole day
and again, somebody would figure that out... -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 09:44:40
wait. how come if there was 2 mafia parties. there weren't 2 kills each night?
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 09:58:41
this game looked so promising in the start :/
there weren't two mafia parties, just two different 'kinds' of mafia SpinZ and PC
but maybe there was a chance that they become two mafia parties,
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 13:38:48QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Apr 26 2008, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i thought i claimed it by protecting something. i just missed both times..
not you, you had nothing to claim.
BTW, minche, there was an obvious omission. You were the last to roleclaim, ever noticed that KPSA is not present? -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 15:09:13
KPSA wouldn't have worked, people would still accuse him since there already was PDS. but mafia could've role-claimed that they are from PSERHOME, PPP at the beginning. if you knew there was 4 mafia out of 12 people. you should've made 2 of mafias role-claim to be in pserhome/PPP in day 2~3.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 16:37:21
still KPSA is a lot less suspciious than PPP that was already claimed and failed
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 16:42:11
Should have claimed PSUK!!!
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 18:30:46
i noticed that there wasn't KPSA, but there was PDS :/
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 23:30:35
damn...i didn't claim my reward lol.
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Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 00:23:27
what was the reward =O ill take it
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Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 01:17:45
Why'd you bastards kill me off first.
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Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 01:30:12QUOTE (Retro-spectre @ Apr 26 2008, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why'd you bastards kill me off first.
cause ur an ass
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Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 02:44:55QUOTE (Zombo @ Apr 25 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sleeve had to be the leading poster by the end of a day. But he never achived it.
I don't have a computer so i couldn't post enough.
EDIT: What was the powers gained? -
Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 13:27:47
vigilante shot:
the ability to kill one person only.