UPSB v3
Manipulative Arts / Cardistry / Flourishing / Extreme Card Manipulation (XCM)
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 14:03:27
Ok this is the fourishing thread. So what flourished do you can and yeah talk about general Flourishing here.
i can do:
Thumbfan
1 handed fan
charlier cut
revo charlier
scissors cut
thumbcut(+aerial packet throw)
card flipping(xD thsi trikc where you flip a card form the top of the deck)
werm
mini madonna (a little part of madonna)
penta cut
Flutter
Swing cut(lol)
pivotal
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all the basic stuff
My decks:
3 ghosts
1 black tiger
1 red gaff
1 bike red
1 tally blue
1 red masters
Magic:
uhh i can do lot of magic tricks i thnk about 50 but cant remember all xD i even have to look the trick and then i can perform it but i cant all ths 50 get into my brain (lol)
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 15:28:59
i can do
- Charlier cut
- Thumb Cut
- Thumb fan
- Smear fan
- One handed fan
- Giant fan
- alot of basic 2 handed cuts which i cant remember the name of
- werm
- Mantis
- basic sybil
- X- sybil
- and probably something ive forgotten
But i have ghosts, bees red&blue, bikes red&blue, tally hosred&blue&black, black tiger deck, and im ordering some guardians at the moment
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 17:34:56
Yeah XCM is fun I but I can just do a few things, one handed cut, one handed fans.
It sucks for people with small hands. How large are your guys hands?
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And I know more magic that I do XCM. I used to know everything from Ninja 1 and half of ninja 2, and them some. Now I forgot it all <.< -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 18:06:30
Yay finally a tread of XCM/Flourishes!
I have been practising XCM/Flourishes and Magic in 1,5 years now I think.
Some flourishes I can do is:
Mantis.
Buck Eye (soon) - By Jason Soll.
Pilov Cut - By richard.
Headache Cut - By Steve-o
Helix Cut - By Richard.
X-Sybil - By Harwin.
Cluesless -
Exodus - By Deflare.
Hot stones - By Bone Ho.
And many cuts and stuff by Kevin Ho.
And some Sybil variations.
Well that was just a short part of what I acually can =)
I have also make some own cuts which I haven't lay out yet.
Please visit: www.decknique.net
It is from that site I learn all stuff ^^ -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 19:20:51
yeah decknique is great^^
i already now learn stuff from dan & daves - The System
great DVD. But im already a beginner and learning from a good german flourisher and a good portugese (right spelled??) Flourisher named Mr. White^^
Already working on Madonna II >.< -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 19:56:25QUOTE (Ålan @ Sep 9 2007, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>X-Sybil - By Harwin.
Please visit: www.decknique.net
It is from that site I learn all stuff ^^
thought X-sybil was by Jonas?
anyway i learn stuff from decknique too
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 20:00:02
Harwins real name is Jonas, so I guess that's who Ålan meant ^^
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 20:00:36QUOTE (Kebaan @ Sep 9 2007, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thought X-sybil was by Jonas?
anyway i learn stuff from decknique too
Thehe yeah that's totally right... Jonas is Harwin! : O
=)
He is one of the best guys on flourishes here in sweden in my opinion. -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 08:46:38
cool...
i can do:
from The System
genesis
kryptonite(slow, like 6 seconds
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madonna
west coast chaos
madonna 2
molecule 1,2
false sybil
00.327.0000
mary jane
360 spider
the werm
the rest of the stuff i do is freestyle things or other stuff i find on decknique.
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 12:33:46QUOTE (UnEmploymentDude @ Sep 10 2007, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah XCM is fun I but I can just do a few things, one handed cut, one handed fans.
It sucks for people with small hands. How large are your guys hands?
If your hands are 18cm (mine is), you should be fine.
I started out learning card manipulation convinced that my hands are too small for this art form. But it turned out otherwise, after a couple of practices I can do quite a few one handed cuts, while not mastering them, it was a good start. -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 18:26:51QUOTE (Ålan @ Sep 9 2007, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thehe yeah that's totally right... Jonas is Harwin! : O
=)
He is one of the best guys on flourishes here in sweden in my opinion.
ahh okay
what should i buy?, the trilogy or the system? =) -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 18:44:37
hm i think the system is better imo.
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Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 00:28:07
You can see my level of skill here http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=NimW
Am I the only XCMer here? seems like everyone are more of the "flourisher" type here, with many 2 handed cuts :/ -
Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 00:58:57QUOTE (ShoeMan @ Sep 10 2007, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You can see my level of skill here http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=NimW
Am I the only XCMer here? seems like everyone are more of the "flourisher" type here, with many 2 handed cuts :/
I think its more along the lines of "you're the only good XCMer here". I try to do card flourishes but all in all i suck at it. -
Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 06:39:37QUOTE (TayYH89 @ Sep 10 2007, 07:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If your hands are 18cm (mine is), you should be fine.
I started out learning card manipulation convinced that my hands are too small for this art form. But it turned out otherwise, after a couple of practices I can do quite a few one handed cuts, while not mastering them, it was a good start.
yeah, My hands are 17-17.5 cm. I dont mind one handed cuts as much as like, a one handed shuffle. -
Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 22:11:44
I think that The System are better to buy if you just want to learn much fourishes.
But all in all I thinking about to buy The Trilogy intead of The System.
Very nice video ShoeMan ^^
It seems that you have done XCM for awhile, much one handed cuts.
Here you all have a little presentation of myself, I did the video in one night.
Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfpvBr5_z_0 -
Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 22:17:28
Cool video, Ålan. Nice pass as well.
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Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 22:55:59
What're you guys talking about? o.o It seems so interesting xD What do you guys need? Anyone want to post up a good video tutorial? Of whatever?
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Date: Fri, Sep 14 2007 21:24:54
ty, think buy both though.. figured out theres a DVD bundle on their homepage
@Ålan, your vid is removed? -
Date: Fri, Sep 14 2007 21:57:43QUOTE (Reminiscent @ Sep 11 2007, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What're you guys talking about? o.o It seems so interesting xD What do you guys need? Anyone want to post up a good video tutorial? Of whatever?
XCM = extreme card manipulation
It involved flourishes and various tricks with decks of playing cards. There's no single tutorial....you'd just have to search youtube for individual tricks. I do recommend "Xtreme Beginners" if you want to learn XCM. In the case of Ålan's video (which he removed?) he did some XCM and some magic tricks. -
Date: Fri, Sep 14 2007 22:48:32QUOTE (ShoeMan @ Sep 10 2007, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You can see my level of skill here http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=NimW
Am I the only XCMer here? seems like everyone are more of the "flourisher" type here, with many 2 handed cuts :/
mwhahahaha
everyones joining the darkside!!
nah man, you can't say all flourishers do are 2 handend cuts, and there's gunna be a decrease of 2 hand crap without decknique.
but i do cards
and i can do almost every thing on the flourish side of card manip
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jdtheac
got a whole bunch of stuff in there -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 09:07:42
Sorry guys, I removed it because I wanted to change a littlebit in the video.
So here it is, shorter and with more effekts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80NHUGrRRQc -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 14:16:37
I can do:
- Thumb Fan
- One Handed Fan
- Siamese Fan (I suck though)
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Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 14:56:59
@Alan: very nice. i think you are more the XCM dude. But hm i think a bit eork on the spring wouldnt be bad
Btw. im working on canahan fan and madonna II !! -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 17:08:35
Hehe, I can do the shuffle cut, which Ålan tought me ;DD
I've tried learning fans and stuff, but it's just not working.. I haven't put down much time on it though, but I'll try to learn it on the SweSpin gathering later this fall ^^ -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 19:07:58
Shuffle Cut? I have a feeling you might be talking about the Casabon Shuffle. Damn it Ålan, you need to learn the proper names for your moves.
I liked the video Ålan, especially the way you do your one-handed cuts, I think the face-shot was a bit out-of-place though.
You'll probably make a good addition to the Flourishers/XCM'ers/Whatevers of Sweden in the future. -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 21:10:54
yay already learned canahan fan with both hands
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 12:03:08
Here is a new film when Bävern come and visit me, we decided to make a cardmovie.
Here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aCQUB0MaY
Enjoy! -
Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 09:11:07
here is the last video i made of my flourishes a bit old but it gets the point across.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSu1pFkAovs -
Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 09:18:54QUOTE (C3rb3rus @ Sep 30 2007, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>here is the last video i made of my flourishes a bit old but it gets the point across.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSu1pFkAovs
wow nice dribble/anaconda thing.
some of your flourishes looked very Bone Hoish. -
Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 09:23:47
yeah Bone Ho is a big inspiration
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Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 21:28:50
love you c3rb
saw you 1 time on mebeam with hanzo. was fuckin great ^^ nice vid btw! -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 00:20:33
hey guys you should vcheck out my friends' group there pretty good specilly in this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2FJi42RcAs -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 00:32:24QUOTE (Kirbynator @ Oct 1 2007, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>love you c3rb saw you 1 time on mebeam with hanzo. was fuckin great ^^ nice vid btw!
haha yeah im usually on mebeam several times a dayQUOTE (Chris @ Oct 1 2007, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey guys you should vcheck out my friends' group there pretty good specilly in this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2FJi42RcAs
i've seen better ... not to mention that it was brought up to my (and others) attention that on their site they plan on putting up videos to moves that they did not create... move by Bone, Daren, De'vo, etc... and thats just not cool not only are they not experienced enough to teach those moves they dont have a right to be teaching moves they did not create. -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 00:48:23
I can do a lot of stuff...but that doesn't mean I can do it well. For the stuff I do have down, I do it well. I have been flourishing for 9 months and been doing magic for about a year and 6 months. Just started penspinning...can do a few tings....just trying to get the hang of it. Love doing it in school
As for the video about Hybrid Binary...the only thing I can think about that was cool was the name. They took all of the Virts style and to post tuts of not there moves is disgraceful. As for the Virts style they took all the ideas from there videos, (White background, Group meeting for flourish shots etc.) I just wish they had more style and they were a bit better. Not saying I am any good though. -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 19:25:58
yes they know there not good they kind of created the video to see how people would react to them creating a group, as for copying the virts by forming a group thats not copying all tehy did was form a group and the white background thing they did was beacause where we were filming was in like tunnel with graffiti everywhere and they didnt want to insult anyone as for the tuts i dont really know much about that so yeah
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Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 10:06:36
C3rb3rus, your vid was awesome
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Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 15:59:45QUOTE (K4S @ Oct 4 2007, 05:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>C3rb3rus, your vid was awesome
thanx you .. glad you liked the video
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Date: Tue, Nov 6 2007 14:04:05
eh i nid help with the boomerang card thingy where u throw it and it comes back to u. any1 can explain how to do it?
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Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 19:27:06
can someone PLEASE help me find a site that I can learn form how to do XCM?
I want to learn tricks like:
can someone please help me? X:
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sketching -
Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 20:00:32
The first one, you can find in Jeff Mcbride's art of card manipulation.
The second one isn't XCM, but it's called hummer whirling card, and it can be found either in Ellusionist.com, or Penguin magic. -
Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 21:07:31
The first one I can tell you how to do. Put your hand palm down on the table. Put the card between 34 and 12 bending upwards. Put your hand palm up and curl your fingers in. Shake your hand around a few times and then straighten out your fingers and it looks the card disappeared but it is really just behind your hand. How he throws the card and makes another card appear is beyond me.
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Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 22:18:12
first one is not xcm either btw,, xcm is non- magical manipulation of playing cards.. and in both he's obviously using some sort of a gimmick you cant do that shit with just cards and your hands,, not specifically like he does anyway..
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Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 09:22:42
first one is not 'XCM' by strict definition..
it can be found in 'the Art of Card Manipulation' by Jeff McBride.
there are many volumes of it I think... -
Date: Fri, Jan 18 2008 02:20:36QUOTE (Kirbynator @ Sep 9 2007, 06:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My decks:
3 ghosts
1 black tiger
1 red masters
Sorry to be blunt but you just got owned by Ellusionist. They talk BS almost all the time. You probably think the cards are "noticeably thicker" and the $5 each is a great deal for such cool cards, but think about it. Even if the cards were 25% thicker, the deck would be too big to be reasonable. (13 cards thicker to be exact). I have their decks, and a side to side comparison shows they are EXACTLY the same width as your standard Bike. As for the price, everything they sell is very overpriced as it would cost at MOST 50 cents to print one deck. Remember the "special" UV500 finish? It's just a fancy name for that standard Bicycle finish and the "glow in the dark" second-edition Black Tiger? White always seems to "glow" under black-light. Relatively speaking as well, Brad Christian is a pretty bad magician. he also tries to copyright "his" tricks all the time.
This is assuming you bought it off their website.QUOTE (Kirbynator @ Sep 9 2007, 06:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Magic:
uhh i can do lot of magic tricks i thnk about 50 but cant remember all xD i even have to look the trick and then i can perform it but i cant all ths 50 get into my brain (lol)
So whats about you?
I personally can only do various fans with a deck in terms of XCM, but I know quite a few magic tricks not limited to card tricks. I'm a member of exposed and SoMF, and despite the names, they are better than either E or Penguin Magic as they tell you better tricks along with the ones sold on E. I'm trying to get down Molecule 1, 2, and 3 and plan on eventually getting Jackson 5 down along with the crazy ones here in The Trilogy Trailer:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/b...bctid1046149134 -
Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 06:35:45
Does anyone have any tutorials for XCM? I really want to learn some stuff (especially the fan, any).
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Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 07:55:19
All the really good tricks you are going to have to pay for. Some tricks like fans and such you can learn from tutorials on Youtube.
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Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 12:00:05
Does anyone have any recommended tutorials?
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Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 15:56:50
@ss4:
I bought the ghosts from ebay and the masters dekc was a gift xD. Btw my fav decks are blue tally/bikes. Have some aviators too
^^ Maybe i'll get some wynns or Mr.Leon -
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 08:53:42
Well I just started XCM, and wow I had no idea it would be this demanding on the hand. I have standard 18 cm hands, and damn these one handed cuts a spins are just killing me. Only thing I've got down pretty well is the Charlier Cut, and I've been working on some simple 2 handed cuts.
Also ordered a few decks: Viper, Ghost, Black Tiger
Can't wait for them to arrive. -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 01:08:30
I've been flourishing for years and it lead me to PS. I love it!
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Date: Sat, Mar 22 2008 12:32:56
I want learn XCM and Do you know if there are good card in France ?
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 05:36:26
people...
DECKS FROM ELLUSIONIST AREN'T SPECIAL!!!
and for decks in france... do you get bicycles? -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 06:14:54
If I didn't have penspinng I would consider learning XCM, all I can do is a one handed cut. Still I find that sort of stuff impresive.
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 10:49:40QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 23 2008, 06:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>people...
DECKS FROM ELLUSIONIST AREN'T SPECIAL!!!
and for decks in France... do you get bicycles?
Yes, I want bicycles or beautiful cards
Do you know websites or forums or tutorial on Youtube to learn XCM ?
and Is it a deck with 54 card ? -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 20:37:05
yes, 52 + 2 jokers
http://www.dananddave.com/
http://decknique.net/forums/
and this is a sweet video by some flourishers from France
http://decknique.net/forums/thread:4233
good luck -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 20:57:33
OK thanks and what is the fundamentals of XCM ?
I can swing cut !!! ^^ -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 23:11:01
what do you like more tho?
devo stuff - XCM (like shoeman)
or Dan and dave stuff - flourishes (like me)
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 00:25:37
what's that trick called that TEK does here?
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 01:00:24QUOTE (Xero @ Mar 23 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what's that trick called that TEK does here?
it looks kinda easy...
but i think u have to do the flicking thingy twice but each time with different cards. then u edit the clips by cutting the movie at the exact time u want it and yeah u get the effect... -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:22:59QUOTE (tomohiro @ Mar 23 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it looks kinda easy...
but i think u have to do the flicking thingy twice but each time with different cards. then u edit the clips by cutting the movie at the exact time u want it and yeah u get the effect...
no.... i've seen it performed live... -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:27:46QUOTE (Xero @ Mar 23 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no.... i've seen it performed live...
it's like a snap change or something...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GGIl208XRVs -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:03:28QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 24 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what do you like more tho?
devo stuff - XCM (like shoeman)
or Dan and dave stuff - flourishes (like me) ?
I like more XCM but I want learn a little flourishes too -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 04:03:28
ok then
fundamentals would kinda be...
thumb fan
basic ribbon spread
arm spread
charlier cut
knuckle cut
thumb cut
tutorials:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/4jacksFort
he has lots.
and STRONG reccomondations for you:
XB
good luck
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Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 05:08:58QUOTE (tomohiro @ Mar 23 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it looks kinda easy...
but i think u have to do the flicking thingy twice but each time with different cards. then u edit the clips by cutting the movie at the exact time u want it and yeah u get the effect...
Actually, it's called the snap change. No camera edits require to do this trick.
And another fundamental, although it might not be taught in 4 Jacks youtube, is the revolution cut, or the one-hand revolution. That's needed if you are gonna do some of Dan and Dave stuff. -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 05:16:52
WERD
snap change = n00b magic but = cool magic
and i suggest not going into xcm and trying out the DnD stuff
hurray for nightsora! -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 06:36:27QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 24 2008, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>WERD
snap change = n00b magic but = cool magic
and i suggest not going into xcm and trying out the DnD stuff
hurray for nightsora!
Meh, Jones and Click change are better. Click change is cleaner, and the Jones change is just awesome as it is. xD
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Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 11:33:29
i like the bertram change most
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3D951qp40E -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 16:51:20QUOTE (NiGHTSora @ Mar 25 2008, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Meh, Jones and Click change are better. Click change is cleaner, and the Jones change is just awesome as it is. xD
jones change is kinda silly.
looks cool on video, feels great in the hands... but is worthless in real life... i've never fooled anyone and i can do it well.
click equals awesome.
but i don't do those types of changes in real life anyways
i like a twirl, duck or winter change myself
how good are you at DnD stuff NIGHTsora?
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Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 19:06:00QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 25 2008, 05:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok then
fundamentals would kinda be...
thumb fan
basic ribbon spread
arm spread
charlier cut
knuckle cut
thumb cut
tutorials:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/4jacksFort
he has lots.
and STRONG reccomondations for you:
XB
good luck
Thank you for the tutorials but for XB, It's not cheap and I don't want pay 40$ for this
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Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 20:34:59QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 25 2008, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>jones change is kinda silly.
looks cool on video, feels great in the hands... but is worthless in real life... i've never fooled anyone and i can do it well.
click equals awesome.
but i don't do those types of changes in real life anyways
i like a twirl, duck or winter change myself
how good are you at DnD stuff NIGHTsora?
Erdnase Classic change...That's where it's at. xD
I started with The System, but I can only do the False Sybil, Kyptonite, Genesis, All the molecules, and Madonna 1 Smoothly. xD
I got the Trilogy, and I can do most of the stuff there, except for the hugh scott Shuffle. xD The only flourishes that I can do smoothly though is the Jackson Five, Pandora, Molecule 4_NY, and Vertigo.
It takes me awhile to get any flourish smooth, but they're nowhere near the Bucks. xD -
Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 00:27:38
show me your false sybil and pandora pls. i wanna see if you can do they that well like you said
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Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 01:47:58
what about tenkai palm?
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Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 02:16:02QUOTE (Kirbynator @ Mar 25 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>show me your false sybil and pandora pls. i wanna see if you can do they that well like you said
The clip you are about to see were made in October 2007. I apparently didn't have a Pandora at the time, so I gave you a Jackson Five. xD
And obviously, I'm not as good as the Bucks, but I only do flourishing for fun. My smoothness can obviously be improved, but I never do flourishing anymore anyways. xD
Link
EDIT: @ Jamie Enns: OMG I saw your flourish video, it was kickass.
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 00:52:28QUOTE (Xero @ Mar 26 2008, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what about tenkai palm?
the tenkai palm is a little harder to pull off. u need more misdirection than the tenkai backpalm
maybe thats cause im lazy. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 18:02:45
I started to learn XCM, and I'm troubled with Which hand should I use in XCM?
My Strong hand is right, but in almost every vid, most cuts and stuff happens in left hand.
Same goes to tutorials.
And thanks for youtube tutorials =]
*sorry for bad grammar. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 21:00:43
you should learn one handed cuts in your left hand and then with half a deck in each hand,, i swear
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Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 22:37:08QUOTE (ShoeMan @ Apr 5 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you should learn one handed cuts in your left hand and then with half a deck in each hand,, i swear
hehe im righthanded too. have to mirror most of the tutorials -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 02:19:32
right handed people need to learn one handed cuts with a full deck in the LEFT hand and then if they want to make cut combos then with half a deck in the right hand, and there are a number of reason for doing it like that.
1- if you are right handed you should be used to holding the deck in your left hand, from dealing games and doing simple shuffles
2- in two handed moves, if the deck is in the left hand it means that the right hand is doing most of the action, which is your stronger hand
3- you should be learning one handed cuts in both hands (full deck in the left hand and half a eck in the right hand), so if you learn a cut in your left hand, it will take you about 10% of the practice time to also master it in the right hand b/c it's your stronger hand, saving you practice time.
4- you spring from right to left, you waterfall from right to left, you finish two handed sequences in the left hand, you do the pressure/thumb fan in the left hand, your routines/ combo won't flow well if you end everything in the left hand then transfer the deck to the right hand for your one handed cuts.
that's my opinion atleast -
Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 17:32:23
yeah i already learn 1 handed cuts with both hands and fans as well
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Date: Tue, Jul 1 2008 20:35:02
shoeman that was a great vid i recently took up xcm and penspinning and always have my cards and a few pens with me. i like this trick i made up using magic skill and xcm if i get a decent web cam i ll post for all to see...
QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 25 2008, 05:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok then
fundamentals would kinda be...
thumb fan
basic ribbon spread
arm spread
charlier cut
knuckle cut
thumb cut
tutorials:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/4jacksFort
he has lots.
and STRONG reccomondations for you:
XB
good luck
i find his tuts can be a bit hard to follow but thats just me i prefer the 3c and just watchin the performers and trying to work them out my self -
Date: Thu, Jul 10 2008 05:09:21
Can you get Bicycles in Australia?
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Date: Mon, Jul 14 2008 18:26:47
Instead of saying what flourishes I know, i tell you what I like(and can do):
triple charlier
scissor cut
molecule false cut
carnahan fan
deck flip
KFC
molecologic
sybil
totally bogus
restricted(my own)
limitless(my own)
Latitude Cut
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Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 05:30:54
I flourish
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Date: Tue, May 5 2009 19:36:16
i like card Flourishing nothing fancy though just a few basics but its nice to use such simple tricks to amaze everyone while shuffling for a game of poker of anything.
I do have a 100% plastic card set it allows me to bend the cards much further without ruining them. -
Date: Thu, May 14 2009 20:00:45
*bump*
QUOTE (TriXonic @ May 5 2009, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i like card Flourishing nothing fancy though just a few basics but its nice to use such simple tricks to amaze everyone while shuffling for a game of poker of anything.
I do have a 100% plastic card set it allows me to bend the cards much further without ruining them.
100% plastic cards are terrible for fanning. Get some Tally-Hos, they're the "primo" cards. As Jerry Cestowski would say.
I got into pen spinning from XCM, I don't think I can list all the moves I know here.
I'm working on De'vo's Cut Combo, Crossed Cobras, Twin Fans, Veireck, and False Sybil. I'm also known as CardPiranha. -
Date: Thu, Jun 4 2009 02:49:47
eh i can do a few of them like nitroze cut which is pretty much what all i can do.
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Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 21:47:38
are there any books on this stuff?
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Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 03:14:32
umm..
www.ellusionist.com/
im getting a black tiger deck and a shadow masters -
Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 11:58:36
Hey guys...
I dont plan to start learning XCM, but its really cool =)
So I wanna watch any good trailer with nice editing...
I've watched video by Dan and Dave, but there is too much beautiful editing and too few XCM in it =) So I need one with a great number of good tricks, but still with nice editing =)
give me a link to such vid, please... -
Date: Fri, Jun 12 2009 02:20:01
These are the cards i have so far.
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Date: Fri, Jun 12 2009 02:24:13QUOTE (KL-7 @ Jun 11 2009, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey guys...
I dont plan to start learning XCM, but its really cool =)
So I wanna watch any good trailer with nice editing...
I've watched video by Dan and Dave, but there is too much beautiful editing and too few XCM in it =) So I need one with a great number of good tricks, but still with nice editing =)
give me a link to such vid, please...
get the dan and dave stuff
its worth it
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Date: Fri, Jun 12 2009 02:27:51QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Jun 11 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>get the dan and dave stuff
its worth it
ive never seen ur card collection... from what ive heard is crazy.
Post pics, nao. -
Date: Fri, Oct 30 2009 19:44:23
just a quick question. do you think this site has decent tutorials? I haven't seen many tutorials, so I'm not sure...
http://videotutorialspot.info/free-magic-t...cm-coins-chips/ -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 00:41:38QUOTE (ninjaaa @ Oct 30 2009, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just a quick question. do you think this site has decent tutorials? I haven't seen many tutorials, so I'm not sure...
http://videotutorialspot.info/free-magic-t...cm-coins-chips/
Yea it does but I used it a while back so some of the videos might be down. Then again if your looking for some decent tutosials there is always this or this. -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 15:00:22
Anyone know how to throw cards?
CardShark88 on YouTube does some pretty good XCM tutorials btw. -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 18:06:45QUOTE (ಠ_ಠ@ Nov 1 2009, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Anyone know how to throw cards?
CardShark88 on YouTube does some pretty good XCM tutorials btw.
Yes I do. Not very good at it though. About 40% of the time when I try to throw the card it just like flutters to my feet. -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 19:14:21
I see people do that when I teach them.
What I did first was to concentrate on linear wrist action then build it into a smooth arm to wrist release.
The fun bit is where you begin to chop stuff like fruit and vegetable -
Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 06:23:54QUOTE (ಠ_ಠ@ Nov 1 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I see people do that when I teach them.
What I did first was to concentrate on linear wrist action then build it into a smooth arm to wrist release.
The fun bit is where you begin to chop stuff like fruit and vegetable
Ohk lol thanks for that. -
Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 11:30:13
i'm sure there's a separate thread for card throwing
is there a decent/informative carnahan fan tutorial out there somewhere? @_@ -
Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 21:04:03
Wow i looked up XCM on Youtube and it looks pretty interesting.
But Penspinning pwns all other manipulations
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Date: Wed, Nov 18 2009 01:08:45
What do you guys think of this?
Oh and please help out a friend. -
Date: Wed, Nov 18 2009 11:49:28
oh yeah! i love cards! i love magic..i love watching flourishes they are really cool..
i don't really practice flourishes that much but i know a little like..
thumb fan
one-handed fan
s-fan
carnahan fan
revolution cut
molecule_four
tj deck flip
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Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 05:15:06
ive always been interested in XCM, but i never took it up, are there like fundamentals, or some place to start?
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Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 23:41:29
So how hard is card flourishing if you have small hands? (mine are 15.7 cm length)
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Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 04:33:34QUOTE (Wind @ Jan 4 2010, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So how hard is card flourishing if you have small hands? (mine are 15.7 cm length)
its frustrating at first, but it'll look cooler -
Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 05:07:26
i only can cut
my deck:
1 bicycle disney cars
2 hoyle
3 david blaine split spades 1st edition
1 bicycle eco edition
1 bicycle tragic royalty
1 bicycle guardian
1 marina bay card
1 paul son card(hard rock card)
1 bicycle tetra
1 bicycle one series
1 miniature mini card deck -
Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 08:28:33QUOTE (Wind @ Jan 5 2010, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So how hard is card flourishing if you have small hands? (mine are 15.7 cm length)
O.O i thought i had small hands... lol XD
i'm currently (trying to) learn the carnahan fan =DD kinda hard but... not really getting there =P
