UPSB v3
Advanced Tricks / Twisted Sonic
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 19:27:08
to learn the twisted sonic do you need charge, or reverse charge? and what fingers is charge suppose to be on? (cuz i see tutorials using ring and middle, while kam's vid has index and middle) *confusing
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Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 19:49:28
You need to know Charge the FingerPass in order to do a Twisted Sonic (normal).
It can be either Twisted Sonic 23-12 or Twisted Sonic 34-23. The latter is usually more difficult.
Eso's Twisted Sonic Tutorial: http://youtube.com/watch?v=cj_JhEGVxfk -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 23:35:19
you need to know charge normal (i recommend charge 23, middle and ring)
it may help to know charge 12 as well (index and middle) -
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 05:19:49
sigh....learing charge 2 3 is killing my ring finger and giving me a headache
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 13:03:57
Someone doing a twisted sonic from 12.. Must be a twisted sonic reverse which you need to know charge rev.
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 17:36:51QUOTE (Viper-X @ Mar 30 2008, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Someone doing a twisted sonic from 12.. Must be a twisted sonic reverse which you need to know charge rev.
??? i sorta lost you there -
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 18:26:15QUOTE (asian pen @ Mar 30 2008, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>??? i sorta lost you there
forget that guy...just do half a charge in 23 (ring and midle finger) and while the pen is moving just put your index finger in front of it and pause it on thumb flap...practice and with some time it'll get smooth -
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 23:45:50
for some reason the pen position after the charge is set so that so that that the pen is behind the middle finger....drives me crazy. where should my index be?
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Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 00:05:14
Don't think about how far you have to charge; just pass asap after starting the charge motion.
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Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 04:36:50
i think im doing it now...but its really choppy feeling, i should watch eso's vid like 20 more times
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Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 19:44:49
If you know how to do it but it's choppy there's no need to watch the tutorial. just practice more
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Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 00:43:42QUOTE (asian pen @ Mar 31 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think im doing it now...but its really choppy feeling, i should watch eso's vid like 20 more times
Are you doing a charge and then stopping and doing a pass? If yes then you`re doing twisted sonic wrong=P; I did that when I was first trying to learn twisted sonic but after 10 minutes of trying it came to me while I wasn`t paying attention. It should be one fluid motion; don`t try and bend your index finger down to grab it. After the charge your index finger should just tilt a little and then the pen should just fall into place; it`s all one motion not two seperate ones. -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 01:43:26QUOTE (ppl2love @ Apr 1 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Are you doing a charge and then stopping and doing a pass? If yes then you`re doing twisted sonic wrong=P; I did that when I was first trying to learn twisted sonic but after 10 minutes of trying it came to me while I wasn`t paying attention. It should be one fluid motion; don`t try and bend your index finger down to grab it. After the charge your index finger should just tilt a little and then the pen should just fall into place; it`s all one motion not two seperate ones.
This guy said it all.
Well done. -
Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 08:30:02QUOTE (Viper-X @ Mar 30 2008, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Someone doing a twisted sonic from 12.. Must be a twisted sonic reverse which you need to know charge rev.
What he means is from what the thread starter said. 'while kam's vid has index and middle (doing twisted sonic from index to middle i presume) *confusing' and he is just saying that 'kam' was probably doing a twisted sonic reverse. -
Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 01:26:31
When i started doin twisted sonic, the pass would always be horizontal (parallel to the ground) but as i practised, i began seeing the circular motion in the pass. I guess that would be an important part.
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Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 03:36:24
Don't expect do be able to just do it right after watching the video. It takes practice man.
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Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 07:36:56
SO EASY! twisted sonic for me was easier to learn than charge/thumbspin/and sonic....
W00T... plus its frekin fun to do lol -
Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 10:38:47
easier than charge?
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Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 11:50:51
One thing I found (having only learnt the Twisted Sonic properly in the last few weeks) is that I could do it much more smoothly with my palm facing directly downwards whilst practicing.
I can do it fine in either orientation now, but when I first started it was with my hand vertical & palm facing sideways, and it was really choppy. As soon as I rotated my palm downwards it became instantly smoother and I got a much better feel for the motion. -
Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 19:31:13
How can twisted sonic possibly be harder than charge if a twisted sonic is a combo of a charge & a pass
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Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 20:03:37QUOTE (someone @ Jun 9 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How can twisted sonic possibly be harder than charge if a twisted sonic is a combo of a charge & a pass
Isn't it a hybrid?
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Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 20:09:08
That's not the point...
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Date: Tue, Jun 10 2008 00:14:45
idk... for me the twisted sonic was just a piece of cake... i watched eso's tutorial and had it down by the end of the video. charge on the other hand... i had to watch eso's tutorial like 10 times to get that one
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Date: Tue, Jun 10 2008 00:28:21
I was like that to, once you know charge you basically know twisted sonic, at least that was how it is for me. Charge took me weeks to learn though
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Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 21:10:35
I've a question about Inverse Twisted Sonic:
Twisted Sonic is basically a Charge ~ Pass ~ Charge, correct? But when I do Inverse Twisted Sonics, I always do an extra charge before it, as in: Charge 1.5 ~ Pass ~ Charge. I find that if you just do half of a Charge (which I believe you're "supposed" to do), it just looks like a pass. I'm pretty sure Eso did this in his Twisted Sonic Variations tutorial (where I learned it from). Do most people do this or should I do half of a Charge before the pass? -
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 21:39:36
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Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 23:08:06
The twisted Sonic took me about..5days to master.
It is actually basically a charge from ring and middle to middle and index
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Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 03:09:47
took 4 days to get this and it was fairly easy, eso explained it very will
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Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 04:51:15
twisted sonic was hard for me to learn too
whenever i watched the tutorials they always did it really fast..
...y not just show it really slowly first? then tell us that it has to be fast...
screwed me over so much... -
Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 08:34:56
i got this on my first try its the easiest trick ever and you dont even need to learn the charge berfore you learn it but it helps.
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Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 07:49:54
How do you get the pass to be more circular? I try the twisted sonic, but when I fingerpass, the pen kinda falls down onto my thumbflap, instead of doing a spin.
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Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 07:54:02
It's not supposed to spin. Twisted sonic is half a charge interrupted by a pass.
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Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 10:45:37
Hmm then I guess mine is just too choppy/unsmooth. For some reason, mine looks really obvious that I'm pushing the pen when I pass, and is really flat. Guess need to practice more
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Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 11:05:46
You do the Pass portion while keeping the circular motion from the Charge beginning, with practice you should be able to combine the two kinds of spin into a single, fluid motion. Right as you reach about 0.25 Charge rotation the pen should be positioned to go directly into the Pass Reverse, then another 0.25 Charge rotation follows the Pass Reverse.
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Date: Fri, Aug 8 2008 01:24:59
i have some questions...
is inverse warped sonic 12-23 possible?
and is a charge reverse in 23 to a pass rev to 12 a warped sonic reverse or a twisted sonic reverse? -
Date: Fri, Aug 8 2008 01:46:34
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Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 23:11:54QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Aug 3 2008, 03:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's not supposed to spin. Twisted sonic is half a charge interrupted by a pass.
Every video I watch on the twisted sonic, the fingerpass looks like a spinning one. I don't understand how people can do that My fingerpass makes the pen flop down onto my thumb flap like most beginners.
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Date: Thu, Mar 19 2009 11:49:52
have you fully master charge? because that helps alot.
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Date: Mon, Mar 23 2009 08:07:32
you do charge 23 then pass to 12 (inside pass)
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Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 11:58:46
You do a normal charge between 2-3 then you do a reverse pass with ur index finger.
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Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 22:27:39
it took me no time at all to master twisted sonic, about one day or less. its really now that hard to learn
i would recomend learning charge first thow it really does help -
Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 22:13:02
i can do it 23 to 12, but im having troubles with 34 to 23. any advice?
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Date: Sat, Apr 11 2009 04:38:47
every time i try to do this, i do a sonic normal. i guess it's because my fingers are so used to that movement. frustrating
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Date: Tue, May 5 2009 12:48:26QUOTE (FireIsBlue @ Apr 1 2009, 06:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can do it 23 to 12, but im having troubles with 34 to 23. any advice?
train ur fingers dextrity.i had trouble last time but jus practice more lol -
Date: Tue, May 5 2009 14:32:03
I couldn't do 34-23 for a long time. I tried for about 5-6h once, got frustrated and left it. After like 3 months I tried again and did it without problem. I guess it's just finger dexterity, as phua sy said. Train outstreching (is it a good word?) your ring finger further. Good charge 34 might help as well.
Good luck. -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 22:22:10
Already did it
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Date: Thu, Jun 4 2009 20:37:49
yea, i found twisted sonic very easy...charge normal btw
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Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 00:21:47
I can actually do the twisted sonic, but the problem is that i dont know how to make the final transition smoother, i can do the half charge and catch it in the 12 slot and bring the pen around to the t1 slot, but i dont know how to make that final rotation more circular...any tips? (and am i making sense?)
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Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 00:40:26QUOTEI can actually do the twisted sonic, but the problem is that i dont know how to make the final transition smoother, i can do the half charge and catch it in the 12 slot and bring the pen around to the t1 slot, but i dont know how to make that final rotation more circular...any tips? (and am i making sense?)
All I can say is when you are going to do the pass, try and keep the momentum of the pen going, and complete the circular shape the charge has started. Doing that will make the trick more circular in shape, rather then linear and thus give your twisted sonic a smoother overall appearance. -
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 20:03:23
u need to know a faked charge in the 23 position and a semmetrical (inverse in other words) pass (23-21). together it makes a twist combo
