UPSB v3

Manipulative Arts / Rubik's Cube

Can you solve it?

  1. Ceedgee
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 21:41:38

    Anyone that does this funny manipulation?

    Got my first cube soon 3 years ago, but wasn't able to solve it until about 2 years ago. I've tried to improve my solvetime from time to time. Haven't gotten very good at it yet since my best time is just above a minute.

    I'm using Lars Petrus method of solving it. Can find a guide here: http://lar5.com/cube/
    Most of the people I see solving uses F2L, but I like this way better smile.gif

    Cubing has gotten pretty popular among swedish spinners, curious how it is outside SweSpin.

    Edit: Fixed spelling.

  2. ShortAssassin
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 22:02:00

    Rubik's*

    Anyway, I use Petrus' method as well. I average about 1:15.

  3. Yiep
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 22:14:50

    As you said, many swespinners cube, Im one of them. Although Im not really good, and just cube for fun atm.

    Anyways, been cubing for like 2 months, doing Layer by layer on my Rubik's Cube. Got an average of 50sek, and a record of 36sek. All with LBL.

    Pretty soon I should get a package from Zaazu with two DIY sets smile.gif Then I'll start with F2L

  4. YourClone
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 22:17:14

    I average around 48 seconds usually... I haven't done much to improve my time since I got under a minute.

  5. Onyx
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 22:31:33

    Just got one today. and I messed it all up dry.gif Any site where I can get help

  6. ShortAssassin
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 22:58:08

    QUOTE (Onyx @ Sep 9 2007, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Just got one today. and I messed it all up dry.gif Any site where I can get help


    There's a link in the first post of the thread lol.

  7. UnEmploymentDude
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 23:05:26

    The old UCPSB thread was very helpful if you guys dont mind going back there.
    http://z15.invisionfree.com/UCPSB/index.php?showtopic=3502

    Yeah, its fun, I'm still trying to fool my teachers into giving me a passing grade if I can solve it by the end of class.
    I average 1 min and 1:20 on a bad day. F2l.

  8. Ceedgee
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 23:11:11

    QUOTE (Yiep @ Sep 10 2007, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Pretty soon I should get a package from Zaazu with two DIY sets smile.gif Then I'll start with F2L


    Yeah, I'm getting a DIY cube from him aswell. Got an originalcube now that works okey. Not very good if you're going for insane speed, but enough for me =)

  9. ShortAssassin
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 23:25:57

    I tried F2L but either I'm too lazy to learn it or I just suck at it. I don't really practice much anymore.

  10. grsbmd
    Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 23:58:04

    My best average was about 24 seconds. I don't really do it much anymore, but I could still average around 30 sec.

  11. Edge
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 00:28:42

    I just got into this. My best time is like 4 minutes or something using the layer by layer method. Are those DIY kits worth it? My current cube is pretty lousy, it has to be perfectly aligned to twist making cubing difficult sad.gif.

  12. UnEmploymentDude
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 00:38:50

    QUOTE (Edge @ Sep 9 2007, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I just got into this. My best time is like 4 minutes or something using the layer by layer method. Are those DIY kits worth it? My current cube is pretty lousy, it has to be perfectly aligned to twist making cubing difficult sad.gif.


    I hear the DIYs cubes pop out easily. And if you want to solve your twisting problem, lube your cube!

  13. Yiep
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 06:46:32

    QUOTE (Edge @ Sep 10 2007, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I just got into this. My best time is like 4 minutes or something using the layer by layer method. Are those DIY kits worth it? My current cube is pretty lousy, it has to be perfectly aligned to twist making cubing difficult sad.gif .


    Well, when I started with LBL I also did times around 5 min. So just keep in there, you should be able to reach 1 min with some additional practice. I shouldnt buy a DIY if I just had gotten into it.

    And as UED said: Lube your cube

  14. Nova
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 08:51:05

    i don't know what method i use, but i average about 1min++, and i need only 2 algorithms. happyy.gif

  15. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 09:37:46

    I have a record of 42 seconds and an average time of 55 seconds with F2L now :)

  16. WhiteFang
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:51:56

    If you get really really stuck..peel the stickers off and glue it back on the right place..

  17. ellusion
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:54:42

    still don't known how to play it pullhair.gif pullhair.gif

  18. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 11:33:21

    There are loads of good tutorials out there.

    I learned how to solve it from this one, and I still use most of the algorithms taught there.


    Getting a cube is the first step, learning how to solve it is the next :)

  19. Tim
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 13:12:46

    QUOTE (Nova @ Sep 10 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i don't know what method i use, but i average about 1min++, and i need only 2 algorithms. happyy.gif


    Then you know a damn good method. My record is 1:10 using intuitive f2l and beginners method.

    @Ellusion to do the cube you have to be the cube. To be the cube you have to feel and empathize with the cube. You have to move like the cube, see like the cube, BE LIKE THE CUBE!!!! teach.gif

  20. DaK
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 17:35:09

    QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Sep 10 2007, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If you get really really stuck..peel the stickers off and glue it back on the right place..

    Disassembling the Cube should be easier.

    I'm cubing a month or two now. But my first cube lay scrambled on my desk for some years.
    My average time is 2-3min, record 1min 52sec. Just too lazy to learn more algs.

  21. Edge
    Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 18:24:14

    Thanks for the advice guys. happyy.gif Just got a 2:03 solve with a lubed cube.

  22. K4S
    Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 01:57:59

    I haven't really been dedicated on shortening my solve times so in my rusty state i can usually solve it around 2 minutes. I treat solving rubik cubes more of a party trick anyway lol

  23. Yiep
    Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 13:53:43

    QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 11 2007, 03:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I treat solving rubik cubes more of a party trick anyway lol


    So do I, but it's hard to keep people focused for a longer solve than 1 min

  24. Ceedgee
    Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 22:39:55

    QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 11 2007, 03:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I treat solving rubik cubes more of a party trick anyway lol

    Hehe

    Can't wait till I get my DIY cube. Haven't lubed the one I got now, but will lube my DIY asap =) Hoping to increase my average time with pretty much.

  25. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 08:42:05

    Hehe

    My original Rubik's is awesome now though, I might not even use my DIY cube so much once I get it :P I think it's awesome so many Swedish people have started cubing, all the massive cube orders from china and wherenot :D

  26. Tim
    Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 14:22:00

    Are DIY's that good. I just bought a really bad cube that came in one of those small, transparent, cylinder-like containers with the sticker holding the lid on. I think there sold almost everywhere so i described it like that.

  27. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 16:44:58

    Yeah, the original Rubik's Cube...


    It's awefull when it's new, and the stickers will fall off quite fast. To make it any good you need to spray the inside with sillicon spray (tutorial on how to do that) and get new stickers for it asap. New stickers can be ordered via the internet, but the shipping cost is high, so getting them from some other cuber who has a spare set is probably easier. It's one of these original Rubik's Cubes, sprayed and with new stickers I use at the moment, and I'm down to 42 seconds, wich is quite alright imo ^^

    edit: oh, and as an answer to wheter DIY's are good or not: imo they're not better then a fixed original cube, but I've only tried them on for short periods, I don't have one myself (not yet, atleast >:D)

  28. SSWind
    Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 04:04:06

    I use F2L method to solve the cube. I just gave away my cube to one of my family members so I need to purchase a new one. I lube my cube using silicone spray. I spray everything except the center piece of the cube (that has the six centers.) Also, I've seen people use nail polish on the stickers to prevent them from falling off. It works quite well but it is kind of messy cause it seems to flake after use. My average time is about 1min. I do hope to reduce my time later on but it is ok for now. happy.gif

  29. Kenzio
    Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 08:24:03

    Rubik's cube is nice& easy!
    but my average time to solve it is still 2 minutes,still n00b...
    mellow.gif

  30. michalcienki
    Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 15:51:34

    I have Rubik's Cube but it isn't original, my solving record is 1:32 but i don't solcing Friedrich method - I solving it layer-after-layer bananalama.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

  31. Sfsr
    Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 19:41:05

    More commonly known as Layer By Layer, or LBL.

    The Friedrich metod is kinda annoying at a start, but after you start figuring out all the algorithms yourself it goes really smooth. Just search on YouTube for F2L and look at some explaining videos.

  32. K4S
    Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 23:59:05

    Where are people buying silicone spray from?...ive checked multiple hardware stores and the only kind they seem to carry is the type that you should not use since it will destroy the plastic.

  33. Edge
    Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 00:26:40

    QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 16 2007, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Where are people buying silicone spray from?...ive checked multiple hardware stores and the only kind they seem to carry is the type that you should not use since it will destroy the plastic.


    i found mine easy at home depot in the lubricant aisle.

  34. UnEmploymentDude
    Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 00:31:39

    I saw some at walmart too. Did you ask the employees?

  35. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 10:01:29

    They have silicon spray at some gas-stations here, you should check if they have some there.

  36. Nova
    Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 10:19:35

    silicon spray is KOOL to TEH MAXX. vcool.JPG

    i use Mister McKenic. some sort of silicon spray.

  37. Nate
    Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 04:15:17

    Wow, I haven't seen a Rubik's Cube in ages. I learned to solve it from a book that was written in the late 80s, and I bothered to learn anything else. I average about a minute, and don't deviate very much from that time.

    Also, powdered graphite is amazing, but gets all over your hands for the first few days.

  38. Maverick
    Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 06:53:10

    I use Petrus Method and have a best of 3:10, not flash at all but I am wondering if F2L is worth learning. Everyone who is using it seems to be getting great times. What is the professional technique/method, if there is even one at all?

  39. K4S
    Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 03:41:32

    Honestly knowing algorithms is only half the battle...the other half is knowing finger tricks and how to turn the rubik extremely fast. Using the beginner's solve method of Layer By Layer which is rather slow you can get your solve times to 40 seconds and lower you're good enough.

  40. Onyx
    Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 04:56:48

    I solved it. Thanks to Tyson Mao's method. hehehe just have to practice it faster hehehehe happyy.gif happyy.gif happyy.gif

  41. Tenku069
    Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 06:13:09

    I average 50seconds-1minute using F2L. Good times are around 40 seconds. 1:10 on bad days

  42. cyber penguin
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 00:21:40

    I learned how to get about 3/4s of it but after seeing how many of you guys do it I think I'll get back into it.

  43. nevets123
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 00:53:02

    yeah, i can do it.
    my best is about 60 sec.

  44. Crzyazn
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 04:18:33

    1min-1:30min average
    53sec best

    WHERE ARE YOU DARKARCHER???!!!! ohmy.gif

    I solve the beginner F2L method...I wanna learn Lars Petrus but the website is so damn confusing!

  45. Nova
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 09:38:03

    i converted to F2L with 3LL.

    sorta slow now, but should get faster once my algs get smooth.

  46. Huroni Remsin
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 09:43:06

    I don't know if I should learn F2L yet...I can solve the cube using a simple method, but I want to know if I should move on smile.gif My best is 2 miniutes, and average is 3. tongue.gif

  47. K4S
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 22:36:39

    god damnit, i've searched everywhere for just silicone spray and i can only find crap with petrol in it. I've just been making due with the syringe they give you with DIY cubes but fallenseraph said that stuff is horrible bangHead.gif

    Any alternatives? I've found some "dry lubricant" spray but there's no mention of silicone in it.

  48. Crzyazn
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 23:12:13

    graphite (pencil lead) is a natural dry lubricant

    I've never tried it out though...

  49. Trogz
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 00:23:24

    did you get the syringe lube with a diy from puzzleproz? that stuff is amazing, but it stays wet longer than i would like, although it does smell lemony fresh.

  50. K4S
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 01:10:41

    No, im using the stuff you get when you buy a DIY cube from rubik's official site...it works alright but fallenseraph said it's terrible and i'll take his word on it since he's the guy with <20 second solve times.

  51. jackolanternsoup
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 02:02:14

    I use the simple simple ultra simple one in jasmine's beginners site.. trying to get F2L.. my best is 2.04... my av is about 2.33.. Unfortunately had to stop for a while simcce my cube broke.. it was a cheap one.. gonna get a nice one soon and challenge my friend who's quite fast tongue.gif

  52. Trogz
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 02:10:10

    This shit is da bomb!

  53. K4S
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 04:50:47

    That looks exactly like the stuff i got with my DIY cube...there's also cubelube.com or something which is the exact same as well?

  54. Trogz
    Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 01:21:54

    does yours smell strongly of citrus?

  55. Onyx
    Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 03:51:10

    I solved the rubiks at 1 min and 27 sec last week. I forgot to confirm it here tongue.gif still practicing my speed. cool.gif

  56. K4S
    Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 04:08:10

    QUOTE (Trogz @ Sep 27 2007, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    does yours smell strongly of citrus?


    Not strongly...more of a very mild citrus scent.

  57. xshadowfire
    Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 07:56:16

    you can easily get under 2 minutes even doing layer by layer, but biggest thing is that you need to know where pieces will go, because when i first start i was always looking for where the pieces were in first and second layer.
    another thing is to not use your whole hand, push with one finger whenever possible.

  58. UEDan
    Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 08:49:55

    QUOTE (xshadowfire @ Sep 28 2007, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    you can easily get under 2 minutes even doing layer by layer, but biggest thing is that you need to know where pieces will go, because when i first start i was always looking for where the pieces were in first and second layer.
    another thing is to not use your whole hand, push with one finger whenever possible.


    Note: repetition is key, get used to starting with a specific color.

  59. xshadowfire
    Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 14:30:22

    i think my best time using my whole hand and looking for pieces while on the first and second layer was 1:45, but that was kind of because i got lucky :/

  60. Nova
    Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 07:47:47

    i got my timings down to 40secs - 1min.

    but i'm having a little problem with my new DIY cube though. it seems that it pops super often, but is not even loose. it is MUCH tighter(more spring tension) than my brother's DIY cube, and alot stiffer, but even pops when i'm not really turning hard and fast.

    any solutions?

  61. Aries
    Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 07:56:51

    lol 2 min here, but just made a Rubik's cube club today at skool

  62. Eso
    Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 14:13:55

    QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 18 2007, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Honestly knowing algorithms is only half the battle...the other half is knowing finger tricks and how to turn the rubik extremely fast. Using the beginner's solve method of Layer By Layer which is rather slow you can get your solve times to 40 seconds and lower you're good enough.


    40 sec??! I've been averaging 2 min using beginner's method this whole time. I think my problem is getting the first layer; I can't do it fast enough. Do you guys memorize where each color is supposed to go before hand? Even with the 15 sec look, I still suffer major lag.

    And my best time so far is 1:20 bawling.gif

  63. Nova
    Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 10:44:42

    i've never really seen a person who has used beginners method all the time do a 40 sec solve.

    i've only seen those sub 18 sec F2L people decide to use beginners method for sport and get a 40 sec solve.

    my brother for instance. laugh.gif


    i think it's all about experience.

  64. Eso
    Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 16:24:43

    So I lubed my cube and it moves great. Unfortunately, it left white streaks on the black sides. And yes, it was silicone spray. D:

  65. K4S
    Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 19:57:08

    I read somewhere that said once you can consistently get 1 minute solves or less using the LBL method it's time to start practicing F2L...of course its not a set path of learning, but more of a suggestion.

  66. darkeh
    Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 20:08:05

    I've tried doing Rubiks cubes...I can get the outsides but the middle ones make no sense :/ and even that took probably 5-10mins huh.gif

  67. Eso
    Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 20:36:29

    QUOTE (K4S @ Oct 4 2007, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I read somewhere that said once you can consistently get 1 minute solves or less using the LBL method it's time to start practicing F2L...of course its not a set path of learning, but more of a suggestion.


    Yeah, that was the goal I set for myself. I have yet to do that. sad.gif

  68. UEDan
    Date: Fri, Oct 5 2007 00:37:07

    QUOTE (darkeh @ Oct 4 2007, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I've tried doing Rubiks cubes...I can get the outsides but the middle ones make no sense :/ and even that took probably 5-10mins huh.gif


    No one said the Cube is easy. Dont give up man.

  69. 11Thrasher11
    Date: Fri, Oct 5 2007 03:00:21

    My best time for one is 45 secs but that was luck = P I average about 1 minute 10 seconds. I don't solve it much anymore but occasionally I do.

  70. Nova
    Date: Fri, Oct 5 2007 09:49:35

    i'm starting to get sub 50 slowly. one i hit sub 40 i'll move on to 2LL.

    wish me luck. i just can't belive memorizing 56 algs. wink.gif

  71. Sfsr
    Date: Fri, Oct 5 2007 14:30:12

    hahahah.gif

    People in my school are starting to learn how to speedcube. We just ordered 5-6 DIYs from Cube4you. And one should be able to get below a minute with LBL.

  72. Wibs
    Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 02:35:39

    I use Petrus as well...I got into cubing for about a month, got to 40-50 seconds, then sorta quit over summer... dry.gif

  73. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 11:27:17

    lol i can average 32 and my best time is 28. i do CFOP(cross, F2L, OLL, PLL) but OLL i only know like 13/57 and for pll i know 17/21. I use a store bought cube. =] just work on your F2L recognition it helps alot

  74. CheeseLord
    Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 01:38:58

    QUOTE (K4S @ Oct 4 2007, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I read somewhere that said once you can consistently get 1 minute solves or less using the LBL method it's time to start practicing F2L...of course its not a set path of learning, but more of a suggestion.


    I get around 1 minute solves, and I'm starting F2L right now. It's really slow.. Are there any F2L algorithms that will help me more than others? I want to try to learn those first.

  75. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 02:09:01

    F2l is by intuition, play more and observe where the pieces move. the concept of F2L is that after the cross, u get a corner-edge pair and then insert it. spend some time looking at the situations and find your own method =] much more effective

  76. K4S
    Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 07:18:08

    So trying to memorize the F2L algorithms is bad then?...guess i've been going about it wrong haha

    ...and i still cant find silicone spray, wtf my city sucks. Stuck using that syringe stuff i guess bangHead.gif


    edit: has anyone tried cubelube.com?

  77. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 12:19:56

    i heard abt it and its supposed to be pretty good. remember that f2l is shit lots of recognition so intuition is the way to go. most f2l algs are written based on what people do intuitively and are probably not even the best algs as they dun make use of empty corners. after u manage to do abit of f2l then just keep practicing. once u can tell the whole sequence of moves after u see a situation, do the following practice: look at the situation, close your eyes, complete the f2l situation, open your eyes, find the next and do. this will help u train your anticipation which would help alot as f2l is all about chaining everything together.

  78. Huroni Remsin
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 13:41:44

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...20052110AAdxb7F

    Do you think it will actually work? I don't want to try it...I'd rather try to find Silicone spray. A

    My average is 2.22 =)

    And does anyone have a pic of how silcone spray looks, and how insert the silicone spray into the cube? If it has to do with taking the cube apart, can someone post a link to a tutorial or something? Thanks

  79. Eso
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 13:51:21

    Before moving onto using F2L situational training, I would like to trim down the time I spend on making the cross.
    What I do is during the 15 sec looking, I see where the white edges are, plan out where they should go, and also try to remember relational location. Like, white is D, so I try to memorize that blue's right is red and to the left is orange, etc. But this seems to mess me up more.

    What's everyone else's strategy for getting the white cross quickly?

  80. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 14:00:50

    QUOTE (Huroni Remsin @ Oct 8 2007, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...20052110AAdxb7F

    Do you think it will actually work? I don't want to try it...I'd rather try to find Silicone spray. A

    My average is 2.22 =)

    And does anyone have a pic of how silcone spray looks, and how insert the silicone spray into the cube? If it has to do with taking the cube apart, can someone post a link to a tutorial or something? Thanks




    erm no it doesn't work my friend tried it and no totally doesn't work. silicon spray is just another spray type lubricant that is silicon based. if it has any petroleum extracts it totally screws your cube. once u get the spray u turn the top layer by 45 degrees or half a U and then pop out one edge. you spray some lube, put in the piece, mess up and solve. then u pop out one edge again using the way i said above, then take out the 2 adjacent corners and finally take everything apart. let it dry for like at most a couple of hours then put it back.


    to Eso:

    you can actually take the 15 secs look time to decide on the exact moves to get the cross and then execute immediately when your time starts, then u can take the time u were doing your cross to find your first corner-edge pair. just a qn, what's your average?

  81. Eso
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 14:24:59

    My average is like 1:40 bawling.gif
    My best so far is 1:20

  82. iNoob
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 05:22:42

    QUOTE (Eso @ Oct 8 2007, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    My average is like 1:40 bawling.gif
    My best so far is 1:20



    Haha. Try harder and practice more. it takes a consistant effort to effectively reduce your timing

  83. Sfsr
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 08:55:56

    I think the easiest way to learn F2L is watching YouTube videos. There are no algorithms to memorize, you just need to understand how F2L works and figure out the rest on your own.

  84. iNoob
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 09:49:24

    nop. youtube vids are too fast to catch. its all about trial and error at the start, and practice later on

  85. K4S
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 23:11:07

    Uh, so i should learn a few F2L algorithms first and then try learn the rest by intuition?

  86. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Oct 10 2007 11:20:49

    up to you, or you can directly go by intuition. works too

  87. Sfsr
    Date: Thu, Oct 11 2007 20:00:17

    I don't really understand this "F2L algorithm" thingy, there are kind of.. no algorithms for F2L? Or well, it's the same type of algorithms as you need solving just the first layer.

  88. Zigosity
    Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 03:12:23

    I just bought my first ever Rubik's cube today (I've NEVER had one D:), so far my best time is... 45 minutes.

    >_<.

    I've only solved it twice though. And I'm only really understanding the LBL noob technique now, so I think I should be able to reduce that to under 5 minutes tomorrow. Yey!

  89. CheeseLord
    Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 03:20:54

    Hmm... I never really look at the cube before I begin to solve. I just find the cross that seems easiest, and start.

    I guess it would help if I took time to look.

  90. UEDan
    Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 05:31:56

    QUOTE (CheeseLord @ Oct 11 2007, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hmm... I never really look at the cube before I begin to solve. I just find the cross that seems easiest, and start.

    I guess it would help if I took time to look.


    Yeah, taking the quick 10 seconds to look will significantly cut your time down. And try getting the same colored cross each time. This way you'll memorize where each color is.

  91. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 15:39:49

    QUOTE (Eso @ Oct 8 2007, 06:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Before moving onto using F2L situational training, I would like to trim down the time I spend on making the cross.
    What I do is during the 15 sec looking, I see where the white edges are, plan out where they should go, and also try to remember relational location. Like, white is D, so I try to memorize that blue's right is red and to the left is orange, etc. But this seems to mess me up more.

    What's everyone else's strategy for getting the white cross quickly?

    I do a method known as "cross on bottom"

    If you want the white cross...assemble each of the white edges on the yellow (or whatever face is behind the target). Then align each edge with it's corresponding face and do a 180 degree turn to bring it up to the white face. Since these are edges, there is no danger of screwing with other pieces

  92. Eso
    Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 18:29:59

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Oct 12 2007, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I do a method known as "cross on bottom"

    If you want the white cross...assemble each of the white edges on the yellow (or whatever face is behind the target). Then align each edge with it's corresponding face and do a 180 degree turn to bring it up to the white face. Since these are edges, there is no danger of screwing with other pieces


    Hmm that's 4 extra moves that's kinda unnecessary. Thanks for the feedback though!

  93. UEDan
    Date: Sat, Oct 13 2007 02:48:15

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Oct 12 2007, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I do a method known as "cross on bottom"

    If you want the white cross...assemble each of the white edges on the yellow (or whatever face is behind the target). Then align each edge with it's corresponding face and do a 180 degree turn to bring it up to the white face. Since these are edges, there is no danger of screwing with other pieces


    Is that the one from the booklet? I suggest you learn the method that involves the fish too. Just when you have to do all 4 corners.

  94. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Oct 13 2007 02:50:05

    eh I was taught by a person...

    and I know the "fish" and the "houses" lol

    I average 1:15...haven't worked on it in a while. I should learn Lars

  95. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 14:05:39

    I've heard people say the "fish" is really awesome and fast. How does it work?

  96. Nova
    Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 14:19:32

    what the heck is the 'fish'?

    sounds quite ridiculous for a method name. laugh.gif
    not technical at all. wink.gif

  97. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 21:30:57

    QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 15 2007, 07:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    what the heck is the 'fish'?

    sounds quite ridiculous for a method name. laugh.gif
    not technical at all. wink.gif

    It's the name for a maneuver in F2L. After the 2nd layer is completely solved, you can orient the last layer so the bottom pieces form "the fish"...once you have the fish a few simple moves will complete the bottom face

  98. UEDan
    Date: Tue, Oct 16 2007 00:02:55

    This is the "Fish" method:
    http://peter.stillhq.com/jasmine/rubikscubesolution.html

  99. roy14692
    Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 02:56:49

    i use the fridirich method whit i think is better and I have a normal average below 40 seconds

  100. Tim
    Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 03:09:28

    I thought petrus was mainly used for least number of moves. I heard that you could do it pretty fast, but is F2L generally faster?

  101. UEDan
    Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 09:04:38

    QUOTE (Tim @ Oct 19 2007, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I thought petrus was mainly used for least number of moves. I heard that you could do it pretty fast, but is F2L generally faster?


    Yeah like Fridirich method. but involves much memorization.

  102. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 11:07:56

    there is some kind of misunderstanding here. Fredrich is the nickname of a method, the proper name is CFOP which means cross, f2l, oll, pll. therefore f2l is part of Fredrich, and F2L does NOT involve any memory

  103. xshadowfire
    Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 11:12:48

    fridrich's f2l is logic, not memorization.
    i mean, when solving layer by layer, if you have your cross facing left, a corner on the top front left with white facing up, is it memorization or logic that you need to do Ui Ri U?

  104. Nova
    Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 11:30:42

    thats intuition/logic isn't it?

    at least for me.



    i try to find out ways to put in 1 F2L myself instead of going on the internet and finding out the algs to do it. that way i understand what i'm doing instead of blindly memorizing

  105. Surge
    Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 15:47:23

    I'm around a minute. It's not really important to me so I don't practice that much. My goal is around 30 seconds.

  106. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 18:17:07

    As I've understood it, OLL is loads of memorization on the other hand, and also a part of the Friedrich method. I've never looked into PLL though, is that for the last layer corners and sidepieces?

  107. Nova
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 01:21:17

    oh. i'm learning PLL(the 21 right?) since i'm moving toward 3LL.


    IMO PLL is easier to learn than OLL. 57 algs is just insane at the moment.

  108. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 01:50:34

    Anyone got an alternate website for the Lars Petrus method other than the default one?

    the one designed by Lars himself confuses me huh.gif

  109. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 02:09:14

    why don't you people try the roux method. u only nid to memorise a total of 48 algs as compared to the 78 algs for fredrich. be warned. there's a hell lot of logic involved

  110. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 06:21:08

    my record now is 2:50 as opposed to like 4 mins like...1 week ago.

    i use the LBL method but i cant see how to get sub-1:30 with a beginners method [LBL]

  111. Aeden
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 09:23:28

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHZ9fsusMGc

    o_O

  112. El Erizo
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 10:55:12

    I searched videos about it, and I saw something incredible, I don't know if someone has posted this video before but I post it, personally, I've never solved a rubik cube, but I think I'm gonna try one day laugh.gif

    Watch !

  113. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 16:19:39

    Remember, the Rubik's cube isn't "hard" to solve. It just requires some memorization and a lot of practice. But once you solve it about 4-5 times, you've pretty much got a good grip on how to complete it from then on out

    But that 3 year old pwns anyway cool.gif

  114. UEDan
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 16:56:12

    QUOTE (El Erizo @ Oct 21 2007, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I searched videos about it, and I saw something incredible, I don't know if someone has posted this video before but I post it, personally, I've never solved a rubik cube, but I think I'm gonna try one day laugh.gif

    Watch !



    Yep seen it. Talk about pushy asian parents eh?

  115. Sfsr
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 18:06:32

    Hit 40 seconds today \o/

  116. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 21:49:00

    I'm jealous of all you sub mionute people dry.gif

  117. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 06:50:59

    YESSSS i got a new best time of 25-26 secs today

  118. K4S
    Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 07:08:15

    Good job, iNoob blink.gif


    Random cube related question:
    I just watched a video of a guy solving a 5x5x5 blindfolded....it's pretty eff'ing amazing. I'm guessing you cant exactly solve it blindfolded by "intuition" so what kind of crazy ass algorithms/techniques do they have to know to do that?

  119. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 08:06:24

    its a different method where the pieces move about in a pattern i think. that one nids alot of practice

  120. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 13:19:58

    For 3x3, they have a pattern they know to start with. 2 pieces of the same color next to eachother there, two of the same color but seperated from eachother there and there, etc. Then they can work out the pieces they need to know the place of from that, and solve the cube.

    Seems really hard...

  121. Tim
    Date: Tue, Oct 23 2007 09:22:48

    lol, that kid was still in a baby chair, she would just have been taught algs but, I'm guessing. I'm kinda starting to do this a little more but it;s hard to get under 1:10 for me. especially consistently.

  122. BananaKetchup
    Date: Tue, Oct 23 2007 09:29:43

    yay! my new record is 2:03..

    any help with getting faster using a beginners method and a slightly lubed cube?

    mi aim is to get to 1:30... after then ill get a better cube

  123. Tim
    Date: Tue, Oct 23 2007 09:38:05

    You should try to find out what you are not fast on, and try to improve that, by improving the parts you are not so fast on your time should come down as a whole. Also look ahead, if you plan out your cross before you start, while you're doing your cross you can look for corners.

  124. BananaKetchup
    Date: Tue, Oct 23 2007 09:50:51

    Doin the cross is def. my slowest bit

    the waqy ive been doin it is that someone will twist up the cube, then start the timer and hand me the cube.

    is it still counted officially if i am handed the cube b4 the timer starts and examine it ?

  125. iNoob
    Date: Tue, Oct 23 2007 11:52:07

    in tourneys its 15 secs examination time, put it down, then u have ur palms on the stackmat, once u lift ur palms, the timer starts and u pickup the cube and start doing. u can ask ur friend to time u including examination time then countdown at 10 secs to 15 then u start at 15 and subtract 15 secs from the final time or sth. else u can download the program called jnet cube timer. its a free java applet

  126. Huroni Remsin
    Date: Tue, Oct 23 2007 20:17:47

    LOL I like this program =) It really helps!

  127. UEDan
    Date: Wed, Oct 24 2007 01:08:37

    Its all about Micheal Peter's timer.
    http://www.geocities.com/rubiksrevolution/timer.htm
    <3 spacebar.

  128. Nova
    Date: Wed, Oct 24 2007 03:48:43

    hit sub 30 today.

    was really lucky though. all my F2L pieces were so easy to find. wink.gif
    last layer wasn't lucky though. laugh.gif


    my friends were quite shocked when i was solving and suddenly started shouting. i was cubing and using my handphone to time myself while we were sitting around and talking. biggrin.gif

  129. Huroni Remsin
    Date: Wed, Oct 24 2007 10:29:27

    WHO! I did 1:35 yesterday, but my average is like 1:50. I'm getting better. And for those of you who want to know to do it faster, know the cube. Understand what you have to do to the pieces before you do them, even if you are using a beginners method. That way, you can understand how the cube works, and stuffs.

  130. death
    Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 01:32:17

    personal best is 34 with petrus method biggrin.gif
    and 1:25 using most beginner method

  131. Sabertrail
    Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 21:22:21

    i decided to start to cubing wink.gif which one do you recommend me? to buy?? im going to buy it from ebay any special good cube to look for??

    thanks!! laugh.gif

  132. Crzyazn
    Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 21:34:02

    Find a method on how to solve the cube, and learn it well

    Once you think that your cube is the only thing holding your times back....THEN upgrade

    btw I've been working on a beginner method for about 1 month now and I average 1:10 with a 46sec best...is this about the pinnacle time?

  133. BananaKetchup
    Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 22:44:06

    wow... how do yu get sub 1:30 with a beginner method?

    do yu hav a link to the method you used... the one i use isnt very... efficient.

  134. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Oct 26 2007 02:38:35

    Er...cross on bottom, put in the corners (aka solve first layer)...put in each 2nd layer edge one by one...then spamming one mini algorithm i know until my last layer is a configuration I recognize and perform OLL(I know 3).

  135. UEDan
    Date: Fri, Oct 26 2007 04:42:48

    QUOTE (BananaKetchup @ Oct 25 2007, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    wow... how do yu get sub 1:30 with a beginner method?

    do yu hav a link to the method you used... the one i use isnt very... efficient.


    Its all about practice, you can probably, no you can get sub 1 min with any method.

  136. Tim
    Date: Fri, Oct 26 2007 10:14:13

    if intuitive f2l plus the rest of the cube beginners method is considered, I got sub 1:30 with beginner's method. vcool.JPG

  137. BananaKetchup
    Date: Fri, Oct 26 2007 11:20:08

    i got 1:45...

    about how long dus it take yu to complete the first layer..

    it takes me round 30-45 secs which seems lyk a lot...


    EDIT: in that 5 mins after mi post i got 1:36..yay!

  138. iNoob
    Date: Fri, Oct 26 2007 13:40:48

    LOL i get 40 secs with beginner method and my 1 hand solve is 1:30. beats your 2 hand solve lol banana

  139. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Oct 26 2007 21:35:34

    anyone know any good household cube lubricators?

  140. BananaKetchup
    Date: Fri, Oct 26 2007 21:47:39

    vaseline, petroleum jelly [same thing] i would use it but im holding out to go 2 the hardware store for some silicone happy.gif
    and i guess practicing with an unlubed cube will be harder, to therefore wen i lube it ill hav a rily good improvement

    and inoob... thx for making my day [a sad one] if i try to solve one handed it takes lyk...5 mins lawl

  141. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Oct 27 2007 04:46:45

    Intuitive Fridrich F2L is my first intuitive method...

    my head hurts
    confusedsmilie.gif confusedsmilie.gif

  142. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Oct 27 2007 06:28:25

    hahaha sry banana. AND KIDS, NEVER EVER USE ANY PETROLEUM BASED LUBRICANT CAUSE IT ABSOLUTELY FUCKS UP THE PLASTIC OF THE CUBE. ITS GONNA BE SUPER SMOOTH FOR LIKE LESS THAN 1 WEEK THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO BUY A NEW CUBE

  143. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sat, Oct 27 2007 13:29:59

    dbanana.gif

    what colour diy sholud i get and where should i get it?

  144. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Oct 27 2007 16:55:45

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Oct 26 2007, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hahaha sry banana. AND KIDS, NEVER EVER USE ANY PETROLEUM BASED LUBRICANT CAUSE IT ABSOLUTELY FUCKS UP THE PLASTIC OF THE CUBE. ITS GONNA BE SUPER SMOOTH FOR LIKE LESS THAN 1 WEEK THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO BUY A NEW CUBE

    add WD-40 to that list...killed my cube for a week until I took it apart and cleaned it well

  145. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sat, Oct 27 2007 23:00:39

    WD40 is bad for lubing everything unless its already jammed with grease/oil

  146. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 00:00:22

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Oct 28 2007, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    add WD-40 to that list...killed my cube for a week until I took it apart and cleaned it well



    WD-40 is petroleum based =.+ read the contents of the lube. always use a silicon spray. best lube availiable. anyway they use wd-40 for pen modding to make the plastic sticky ( grip in cap - RSVP MX ) so quite obviously u shouldn use it for cubes

    QUOTE (BananaKetchup)
    what colour diy sholud i get and where should i get it?


    well u can go to www.cube4you.com and get a white DIYKit. its like 8 USD excluding delivery. Including delivery will probably be between 10-15 USD. They have type (a), (cool.gif and © but their site admin recommends type a for speed cubing so listen to da man. he has been cubing for 15 years alr. However to buy from there u nid paypal / CC so if u dun have then beg ur parents to lend u their CC.

  147. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 01:32:36

    they don't mind... they hav paypal

    r ther any cheaper alternatives...? i live in australia and that would cos lykk... a fortune

    what aboyut from rubiks.com...? tho im not sure bout the shippping...

    im looking for a diy thats less than $30 australian [$27 usd] all up [plus shipping]

  148. DaThroat
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 07:55:56

    hit a 26 sec yesterday. i'm starting to average sub 40 quite consistently now. out of 12 timings i got about 10 sub 40s, one of which was the 26.


    i just realised memorizing F2L was quite inefficient, as i was watching my cousin who does so solve the cube. he kept 'forgetting' the moves. intuitive is so much better, plus it uses your common sense. laugh.gif

  149. UEDan
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 07:58:37

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Oct 27 2007, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    WD-40 is petroleum based =.+ read the contents of the lube. always use a silicon spray. best lube availiable. anyway they use wd-40 for pen modding to make the plastic sticky ( grip in cap - RSVP MX ) so quite obviously u shouldn use it for cubes


    Not even man! We use rubbing alkeehol!

  150. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 09:02:08

    i went out and bought some silicone spray today... cost me $12 aus

    i lubed my cube... got 1:30

    later i found out it was petroleum based pullhair.gif

  151. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 09:52:19

    good job. u win. anyway its only a total of 15 USD for shipping to Singapore so i think it will be okay for u. below ur budget. and rubiks.com costs a bomb. 30 USD for delivery outside USA

  152. Rorix
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 10:09:06

    I finally placed an order at cubesmith for some tiles smile.gif.

    My times are getting slightly lower, averaging around 1:28 or so. I need to start learning some OLL and PLL.

    How do you know if a spray contains petroleum? I went to this store the other day, and looked for silicon spray. They had a few but they didn't say anything about what it contained. I just went ahead and bought one and it seems to work fine anyway.

  153. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 11:02:49

    its the propellant ...i think

  154. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 17:40:12

    Ugh Fridrich F2L is painful...I average 2min-3min just for the F2L!!!!!

    with LBL I get 1:00 dry.gif

  155. yxTay
    Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 08:10:11

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Oct 29 2007, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ugh Fridrich F2L is painful...I average 2min-3min just for the F2L!!!!!

    with LBL I get 1:00 dry.gif
    You've probably practised less F2L than LBL. F2L should be faster due to the less steps wasted from arranging the corners of the 1st layer and the dges from the 2nd layer. When one gets better, it'd take less time to figure out which group of turns to use, and, hence, less overall time. According to Fridrich's hints page, "many cubists report being slowed down by the F2L rather than the LL." Also, "F2L require a lot of experience but are lighting fast once mastered." wink.gif So, yeah, practice is key.

  156. BananaKetchup
    Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 10:15:54

    [lil jon voice] yayyyyuuuhhhh my new pb is 1:25 w00t and is http://www.cube4you.com/27_White-DIYKit-3x3x3-(a).html
    thr right cube?

  157. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 10:44:12

    yes it is correct, banana

  158. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 22:54:34

    Ok I just need to practice happy.gif

    Would it be reasonable to acheive sub 40 times in two months with average practice of 30min a day?

  159. K4S
    Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 22:56:06

    Alright, so i've begun learning intuitive F2L...its going to take so long to get fast but i can see how it's better than brute force alg memorization. I'm not even going to time myself because it will only make me sad lol

  160. yxTay
    Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 01:42:40

    QUOTE (K4S @ Oct 30 2007, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Alright, so i've begun learning intuitive F2L...its going to take so long to get fast but i can see how it's better than brute force alg memorization. I'm not even going to time myself because it will only make me sad lol
    Yeah, that's a good way to practise. Fridrich gave a similar advice on her hints page.
    QUOTE
    Now, I can't emphasize this enough: GO SLOWLY. The system works best when you do not apply the algorithms blindly but rather you try to minimize the number of moves, ignoring the time for a while. This is why I also always advice to forget about the time and, instead, start paying attention to the number of moves in the F2L. Then, _very_gradually_ increase the speed. This is the best warm up as well, by the way. Much better than twisting like crazy right from the moment you pick up the cube.

  161. Trogz
    Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 01:44:47

    here's the diy I have. Its amazing. its the same one as on cube 4 you:

    DIY CUBE

  162. K4S
    Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 02:26:49

    They cost more than the ones on cube4you though sad.gif

  163. DaThroat
    Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 03:56:28

    i don't really like DIY cubes. their supposed to be the 3rd best cube or something, but i prefer the original rubiks cube actually.

    sure DIY cubes can cut corners like free, but i feel they pop too easily. maybe it's just that i've not adjusted it properly, but i've tried tightening it and loosening it, but it just doesn't work. it can pop without warning. every 2 or 3 solves i do i get at least 1 pop. wink.gif

  164. Crzyazn
    Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 04:00:15

    I feel like getting some cubesmith tiles (my originals are dying already)

    ...are the textured ones better than the plain ones?

  165. bry
    Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 04:35:10

    Guys I want to start speed cubing ...any advice on what to buy?if online it must ship either to the Philippines or to UAE.... happy.gif

  166. iNoob
    Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 07:01:02

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Oct 30 2007, 06:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ok I just need to practice happy.gif

    Would it be reasonable to acheive sub 40 times in two months with average practice of 30min a day?



    erm... that's more than enough i think.

  167. BananaKetchup
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 06:40:56

    arghhh!!

    my times are so... umm... inconsistent!

    one day i get like 3-4 solves under 1:40 which is good in my books... then i get like roily crappy ones over 2 mins

    i neeefddd help!!!!

  168. K4S
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 07:42:36

    Day 2 of learning F2L and im down from 5 minutes to 3 minutes for F2L....still horrendous but i'll take it ._.

  169. DaThroat
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 12:10:39

    my timings are starting to get retarded. out my entire timing session today i had times which ranged from 26-52 seconds. wink.gif

  170. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 12:49:39

    u should use jessica Fredrich's method of time keeping. ignore all lucky solves which means if u have 3 or more f2l pairs where u only take 3 steps to do, or if u skip ur oll or pll. then it should be more consistant. mine is always between 27-32. sucks

  171. Rorix
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 19:18:00

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Nov 1 2007, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    u should use jessica Fredrich's method of time keeping. ignore all lucky solves which means if u have 3 or more f2l pairs where u only take 3 steps to do, or if u skip ur oll or pll. then it should be more consistant. mine is always between 27-32. sucks


    What's that? I tried google but I couldn't find it sad.gif.

  172. K4S
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 21:19:05

    He just meant you ignore all your lucky solves where you can do F2L steps in 3 moves or if you get to skip parts of solving the last layer.

  173. DaThroat
    Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 02:44:18

    well. the thing is i don't use 2 look last layer.

    i use a 4 look last layer if you can call it that(cross, OLL, swap corners, PLL).


    my F2L is about consistent 20, but my last layer has a huge range since sometimes i'm really unlucky to get many cases which i hate, or i could be just blur and unable to recognise the case. sucks. i'm looking forward to learning all 21 PLL.

  174. Crzyazn
    Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 02:53:40

    bluntly put...I want to mod my cube biggrin.gif

    except I don't know where/how much to file and sand (I don't want to drop $12 for a speedcube)...

  175. K4S
    Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 06:54:58

    iNoob, quick question. Im having no problems learning intuitive F2L but i looked at the most popular algs for F2L and noticed that my intuitive solves are generally 3-4 moves longer than the popular algs used. So even if i get good and fast at intuitive F2L, some time down the road am i going to have to learn the shorter algorithms to shorten my time?

  176. iNoob
    Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 07:43:24

    eh i dun think so. point is later on if u feel ur f2l is slow, you will try to find better ways to do it and if u spend enough time you will eventually reach somewhat the same algs. after all most of the f2l algs online are based on what the people did intuitively.

  177. BananaKetchup
    Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 08:32:14

    so... all you "pro" people, around how many solves you do in a day?

  178. BDeyes
    Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 09:54:44

    i'm definately not a pro, but i can solve teh 3x3x3 in about 5mins happy.gif

    BD

  179. Rorix
    Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 10:21:37

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Nov 1 2007, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    eh i dun think so. point is later on if u feel ur f2l is slow, you will try to find better ways to do it and if u spend enough time you will eventually reach somewhat the same algs. after all most of the f2l algs online are based on what the people did intuitively.

    I'm not pro, but I do maybe 20+ a day.

  180. Tim
    Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 10:27:40

    I'm not a pro, but i kinda lost my cubing motivation seeing as I don't have much time with all of my Homework and penspinning.

    I used to do it in front oh the tv, so probably 10+

  181. iNoob
    Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 02:38:56

    damn few times. i only solve on the train to and from school

  182. DaThroat
    Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 02:49:31

    iNoob:
    on the MRT?(i see you're singaporean. laugh.gif )


    for me probably 30+. about 10 without timing myself and about 20 with timing.



    another thing: should we set up a rubik's cube "team"? then we can have more threads with questions like 'how many times do you solve a day?' or 'what method do you use?'.

    that kind of stuff. so it isn't only those who frequently post in this thread who take part in the discussion. also helps those who want to join the discussions to not have to scroll through 12345975230 posts.



    are we allowed to do this? i think it's a good idea.

  183. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 03:30:34

    good idea, but we could always join dedicated cubing forums

  184. iNoob
    Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 03:48:05

    agreed. yes on the MRT. =D

  185. Bathory
    Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 18:30:34

    I got a Rubik's cube today and I solved it in 40 minutes =D

  186. BananaKetchup
    Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 22:20:26

    did you do it intuitively? cos thats pretty good if you dnt kno any algs and such

  187. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 02:20:20

    Im thinkin about ordering a speed cube off ebay

    im torn between the "liquidsound"preassembled model and the DIY by Puzzle Pros

    Liquidsound is expensive but looks really kickass

    Puzzlepros is cheaper with negligible performance loss...but I think they don't have black (the color I want ohmy.gif )

    Recommendations?

  188. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 03:29:56

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Nov 3 2007, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Im thinkin about ordering a speed cube off ebay

    im torn between the "liquidsound"preassembled model and the DIY by Puzzle Pros

    Liquidsound is expensive but looks really kickass

    Puzzlepros is cheaper with negligible performance loss...but I think they don't have black (the color I want ohmy.gif )

    Recommendations?



    dun buy liquidsound preassembled. cause the whole point of a DIY cube is u adjust it yourself so preassembled is pretty pointless, just that it would suck if u have no lube.

  189. Bathory
    Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 13:04:13

    QUOTE (BananaKetchup @ Nov 3 2007, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    did you do it intuitively? cos thats pretty good if you dnt kno any algs and such


    No, I did it with the "layer by layer" method^^
    Now my best time is 6 minutes^^

  190. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 21:01:37

    37 seconds. BAM!

    EDIT:
    my average hasn't really improved at all though ):

  191. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 01:02:53

    26 seconds =.=

    hehehe

  192. Bathory
    Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 19:33:52

    2 min 50

    Ha ha^^
    What is the faster method?

  193. AzNwAr3oR
    Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 22:55:25

    I've been cubing for a week and I average 2 mins biggrin.gif What cubes would you guys recommend?

  194. K4S
    Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 23:20:42

    QUOTE (AzNwAr3oR @ Nov 4 2007, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I've been cubing for a week and I average 2 mins biggrin.gif What cubes would you guys recommend?

    a DIY cube from rubik or cube4you

  195. DaThroat
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 02:50:10

    i wouldn't get a DIY cube if i were you. they pop much more easily than the original cube, even at tightest tension. and at tightest tension it turns like concrete.


    the only advantage i see is that it can cut corners better. laugh.gif

  196. K4S
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 02:59:17

    My cube is moderately loose and it's never popped for me dunno.gif

    My average time has jumped up to 2:30 in the midst of learning intuitive F2L confusedsmilie.gif

  197. DaThroat
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 03:08:52

    just how fast do you turn? do you cut corners alot?

    maybe mine was manufactured with a defect.

    but my brother's one also pops, though not as easily as mine, but much more often than the original rubiks that i have(actually it's a 25th aniversary one tongue.gif )

    or perhaps i should just change my style. wink.gif

  198. K4S
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 03:14:06

    Well if i go LBL then i can solve it around 1:10 so i get it turning somewhat fast but im no where near those crazy 15 second solve kind of turning speeds. Im using a DIY cube from rubik.

  199. DaThroat
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 03:25:11

    yeah mine's from rubik too.


    i do about 35-39 sec average. i guess i'll have to use mine as spare parts. laugh.gif
    that way my PVC stickers won't totally go to waste.


    haha as for those 15 sec turn speed dudes, they probably don't turn that fast. it's their brain which works quick, observation and all. they probably only take 7-12 moves for each F2L set.

  200. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 03:42:22

    QUOTE (K4S @ Nov 4 2007, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well if i go LBL then i can solve it around 1:10 so i get it turning somewhat fast but im no where near those crazy 15 second solve kind of turning speeds. Im using a DIY cube from rubik.

    Im suffering from the same problem you are.

    The transition from LBL to F2L is like switching from a Dr.KT to a bictory

  201. Rorix
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 05:43:57

    Got my cubesmith order today smile.gif. Though the package was missing one blade, but it's alright I guess.

    What happens if you stick the tiles on when you haven't removed all the old adhesive? I only found out that you needed to remove all the adhesive AFTER I finished sticking the tiles on. Will it have any effect in the future? It wasn't much, but it was still there.

  202. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 14:09:36

    speed is all about smoothness and the linking between algs and steps instead of the real turning speed. if u can link everything real good, u can get pretty fast speeds without very high turning speed. the gist is this: practice =]

  203. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 16:00:00

    Those cubesmith texture tiles are really awesome, I don't have any though :'(

  204. BananaKetchup
    Date: Tue, Nov 6 2007 05:40:29

    ohhhh yeeeaaaaaa new record 1:11!!!!!!

    i recon now its my cube thats holding me bak from get any better times...

    would practicing fingertricks with my left hand be worthwhile? cos i can do em pweedy well with my right

    annnndddddd does anyone hav a good link for learning oll algs.. cos atm with my method i just move all the cubies into the right positions and then just spam a 4 move alg untill all the corner peices are flipped correctly.

    i dnt need to learn pll cos i can orient the edge pieces and the corners ok but my method of flipping the corners are slow

  205. Sfsr
    Date: Tue, Nov 6 2007 13:22:03

    It's not that often your cube holds you back though, I was able to get below 1 minute with my old cube and simple LBL. It's just about recognizing situations faster and maybe using some good fingertricks.

  206. Crzyazn
    Date: Tue, Nov 6 2007 22:40:01

    LBL max is around 40sec

    OLL is a pain to memorize...just remember to actually look at what you are doing instead of blindly following strings of moves.

  207. Kazuki
    Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:49:10

    Ahh! Rubik's cube! I use to love playing with them~ My average back than was around 20 seconds, now it has degraded to around 50-1 min. ;-;
    --
    Searched my old Putfile videos, Found one of them. XD
    Wheeee <===

  208. Trogz
    Date: Thu, Nov 8 2007 14:31:39

    hehe! new record LBL 2:03. its no good, but im proud of myself.

  209. Crzyazn
    Date: Thu, Nov 8 2007 22:20:28

    QUOTE (Kazuki @ Nov 7 2007, 02:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ahh! Rubik's cube! I use to love playing with them~ My average back than was around 20 seconds, now it has degraded to around 50-1 min. ;-;
    --
    Searched my old Putfile videos, Found one of them. XD
    Wheeee <===

    dude you pwned the stickers on that cube

    Im working on 3 Look LL instead of 2 Look....i can relax a lot more now

  210. Webo Splash
    Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 00:53:31

    7 minutes. Yup Im pro. BUhht I do layer by layer =]

  211. Kazuki
    Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 06:07:26

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Nov 8 2007, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    dude you pwned the stickers on that cube


    Haha, so many people said that to me. XDD
    I need a new rubik's cube. >>

  212. Tim
    Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 07:29:16

    QUOTE (Kazuki @ Nov 9 2007, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I need a new rubik's cube. >>


    Ya think? Nice video, you kinda speed up and slow down at parts unexpectedly. Way faster then me.

  213. Neo
    Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 10:55:46

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...32231&hl=en

    I'm improving...lol

    Skip to 0:48...thats when it starts lol

    I move my hands faster now, so my time, now, is somewhat faster. Any tips? Any questions about my form? I know its awkward..lol tongue.gif

  214. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 07:24:53

    watch my 24 second solve =D my newest best time.

    there's a bazaar downstars so its damn noisy

  215. DaThroat
    Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 02:36:48

    I like your white cube. biggrin.gif


    good solve. laugh.gif


    were you getting the computer to generate the random moves for you to mess at the start?

  216. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 03:02:23

    yep. the program generates a mess-up then also provides a countdown timer

  217. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 03:12:09

    the program is jnet cube timer

    i like it...but i'm guessing it's nothing compared to a stackmat

  218. XtinE
    Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 07:41:36

    Has anyone tried any of the non-3x3 cubes? Like the 4x4, 5x5 or square-1? Those are pretty interesting...

  219. nevets123
    Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 07:48:53

    my friend can solve a 4x4.
    i tried it, it's hard.

  220. XtinE
    Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 08:46:38

    It is...I think it took me several days to finish it the first time. Once you get the 4x4 down, though, the 5x5 isn't much harder. =] I usually solve it by arranging it like a 3x3 first, and then solving it using a 3x3 method. Square-1 though...that's another story.

  221. UEDan
    Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 08:54:35

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Nov 9 2007, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    watch my 24 second solve =D my newest best time.

    there's a bazaar downstars so its damn noisy

    youtube]VN-2HCBpP88[/youtube


    haaahahaha it took ya longer to mess it up than to solve it!

  222. BananaKetchup
    Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 09:42:37

    argh...

    oll is soo annoying.

    dus anyone hav a GUD way to orient the corners after permuting them and having all edge cubies permuted and flipperd correctly?

    iv started practising keyhole for the first 2 layers, its seems to be faster than the average beginner way =]

  223. csscplayer
    Date: Thu, Nov 15 2007 02:33:01

    Nope I can't help you with that. I use LBL, my last record was around 1:14. I'll try to break one minute eventually.....

  224. Crzyazn
    Date: Thu, Nov 15 2007 05:34:44

    QUOTE (csscplayer @ Nov 14 2007, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Nope I can't help you with that. I use LBL, my last record was around 1:14. I'll try to break one minute eventually.....

    1:14?

    You're pretty close to sub 1min...but LBL has limits. It gets harder and harder to shave off time around this point

  225. csscplayer
    Date: Thu, Nov 15 2007 11:58:46

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Nov 15 2007, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    1:14?

    You're pretty close to sub 1min...but LBL has limits. It gets harder and harder to shave off time around this point


    Yea, I'm starting to figure that out. I was going to switch to petrus, but am way too lazy. Maybe if I get a faster cube, I can break a minute. If not, 1:14 is fine for me. What's weird about my record is I did it at a variety show in front of 100+ people. I guess I work well under pressure lol

  226. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Nov 16 2007 02:46:52

    Even with a HORRIBLY MEDIOCRE Fridrich F2L, I shaved off 10 seconds off my average. I can't wait to see what happens when I actually start getting good. I not content with my 50sec average...

  227. iNoob
    Date: Fri, Nov 16 2007 16:17:37

    hahaha my lbl average is 40 =P

  228. darkeh
    Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 00:37:42

    I just learned to solve it like yesterday, but I have no clue what the way I do it is called, and is there an easy way to find out?
    If this helps I don't know exactly what to do and get stuck on parts after I get the first 2 layers done.

  229. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 00:41:52

    QUOTE (darkeh @ Nov 18 2007, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I just learned to solve it like yesterday, but I have no clue what the way I do it is called, and is there an easy way to find out?
    If this helps I don't know exactly what to do and get stuck on parts after I get the first 2 layers done.

    most likely layer by layer....maybe even Petrus

  230. darkeh
    Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 02:50:21

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Nov 18 2007, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    most likely layer by layer....maybe even Petrus

    Its NP I think, but my mom can do it consitently in 2 mins and I can get liek 3 so it seems to fast. Is petrus a good one to learn?

  231. sp3ctum
    Date: Tue, Nov 20 2007 17:36:02

    I learnt to solve a rubik's cube a couple of months ago when I had a cold for a few days. Since then I've gotten a few, and switched from the beginner lbl method to Petrus and finally Roux, which I like the best.
    I've gotten a personal non-lucky record of 32.5 seconds, and probably average at 45-48 seconds... But it's very boring. I don't like it all that much.
    I like a square-1 better. That's a very interesting puzzle. (search wikipedia) On that I use Lars Vandenbergh's solution, but don't know all the algorithms (only 30+). My record is somewhere around 35 seconds.
    Puzzles are a lot of fun when they turn well.

    Recently I started practicing pen spinning again, and now I haven't decided if I want to work on one thing exclusively... Maybe not. A little bit of everything according to the mood, and never forcing it will probably work the best for me.

  232. csscplayer
    Date: Tue, Nov 20 2007 22:15:03

    Petrus is a good method. A lot of people use it after learning LBL, and its possible to get really fast times using it......

  233. darkeh
    Date: Tue, Nov 20 2007 23:06:44

    QUOTE (csscplayer @ Nov 20 2007, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Petrus is a good method. A lot of people use it after learning LBL, and its possible to get really fast times using it......


    Well I don't know lbl, is it bad to learn Petrus first?
    And does anyone know the alforithm to get the last 2 sides on the second layer? it is in a youtube video but I can't tell what he does...

  234. Tim
    Date: Wed, Nov 21 2007 07:15:09

    QUOTE (darkeh @ Nov 21 2007, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well I don't know lbl, is it bad to learn Petrus first?
    And does anyone know the alforithm to get the last 2 sides on the second layer? it is in a youtube video but I can't tell what he does...


    Last two sides?

  235. BananaKetchup
    Date: Wed, Nov 21 2007 09:01:02

    lol omg im so stressed pullhair.gif

    my good cube broke so im stuck with a crap one...

    i ordered 2 diys from cube4you and i cant wait to get 'em


    im stressed cos this guy in my class is below 1 min and my best is 1:11... i NEED to beat that laugh.gif

  236. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Nov 21 2007 12:13:21

    good luck, i'm oso so stressed, my 1 hand timing refuses to go below 50 seconds =P

  237. csscplayer
    Date: Wed, Nov 21 2007 12:27:16

    darkeh- Its not bad to start with petrus, think of it as skipping a step. Its kind of like penspinning, learn however you want to. I can't help you with that algorithm though, sorry...

  238. darkeh
    Date: Wed, Nov 21 2007 14:49:31

    QUOTE (Tim @ Nov 21 2007, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Last two sides?

    I have the top layer and I need the last 2 edges to finish the middle.

  239. CheeseLord
    Date: Thu, Nov 22 2007 05:20:35

    I haven't actually practiced in so long, my time is about 1:30 now... it used to be 0:5X-1:10.

    I gave up after trying to learn Fridrich F2L. Got 14 algorithms and then quit. dry.gif

    I might try again.

  240. iNoob
    Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 00:09:03

    for god's sake f2l is supposed to be intuitive. you are supposed to slowly figure out the situations.

    anyway new viid =]


  241. Surge
    Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 00:12:31

    nice dude.

    I just got my first sub 30 sec solve. i'm pretty happy.

  242. BananaKetchup
    Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 09:19:09

    yay i got my 2 diys! biggrin.gif

    myh average is 1:20 which is ok but lyk yeh... not the best

    umm how much would it cost and hjow long would it take to get stickers from cubesmith to australia? the stickers that i got with the diy are rily crap

  243. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 13:56:21

    erm free shipping for orders above 10 USD

    i recommend u get the textured tiles. they are really good. 4.50 a set and could last you almost forever, then maybe u get 1 more set of stickers so that u have free delivery haha.

  244. Sfsr
    Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 18:37:14

    We had a rubik's competition on the SweSpin gathering. JonNilsson won with 33 seconds. I finnished second with 35. New record ^^

  245. iNoob
    Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 02:13:45

    WTF neh invite me. i can take video of myself and enter the competition rite? ^^

  246. DaThroat
    Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 02:46:09

    'NEH"? Sinagpore slang FTW.



    iNoob: did you go to the gathering last saturday at vivo? i didn't but my brother did. laugh.gif

  247. Onyx-o7
    Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 02:50:00

    QUOTE (DaThroat @ Nov 28 2007, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    'NEH"? Sinagpore slang FTW.



    iNoob: did you go to the gathering last saturday at vivo? i didn't but my brother did. laugh.gif

    You have a brother?? Dang He might be really good, I have a twin brother tongue.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

  248. DaThroat
    Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 02:58:14

    nah not at penspinning, but at cube, he was the best at the gathering with consistent sub 18 times. tongue.gif



    he just starting learning penspinning, but he likes 'korean' style. different from me.



    anyway i hit a new record yesterday of 21.58. happyy.gif which is dumb since my average is 35.. blink.gif

  249. Onyx-o7
    Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 03:02:59

    QUOTE (DaThroat @ Nov 28 2007, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    nah not at penspinning, but at cube, he was the best at the gathering with consistent sub 18 times. tongue.gif



    he just starting learning penspinning, but he likes 'korean' style. different from me.



    anyway i hit a new record yesterday of 21.58. happyy.gif which is dumb since my average is 35.. blink.gif

    Ohh he might be really good/better then me. lol we're going off topic I'll just PM you tongue.gif

  250. Floating Duck
    Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 05:24:43

    I know no one really cares but i finally figured out how to solve a cube ohmy.gif

    Thank you all for keeping this topic active, it kept me motivated thumb.gif

  251. FallenSeraph
    Date: Mon, Dec 10 2007 07:09:39

    wow im glad so many people got into cubing. looks lik some ppl got good too. any1 beat this yet?
    http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/result...hp?i=2007ZOUR01

    eh it doesnt matter anymore. i quit cubing along with penspinning. i think i could only average sub 30 on the cube now. forgot all my OLL algorithms

  252. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Dec 10 2007 07:49:23

    i beat his one handed cubing upside down

  253. 4GO57O
    Date: Tue, Dec 11 2007 09:25:36

    just learned how to a few days ago tried yesterday and atleast solved one cube 4-6 times....and my time LBL w/mistakes lol around 6 minutes w/o mistakes 4-5 minutes.....haven't memorized the algorithms for the last layer yet....I know mine sucks dry.gif any tips on the uh is it permutation?where you make like...the bottom side of the last layer one color only?

    just memorized all algorithms for LBL and at least...solved my cube 5-8 times today...when I tried to speed cube...I got 3:49 biggrin.gif

  254. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Dec 11 2007 14:59:20

    Anybody tried this:

    http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/games/9766/

  255. FallenSeraph
    Date: Wed, Dec 12 2007 02:19:14

    its called square one. ive tried it but didnt get very far. apparently the theory is similar, but you have to restore it into a cube first

  256. 4GO57O
    Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 11:14:24

    WOOT...I borrowed my friends cube and when I was done I did 1 and a half minutes....my hands were shaking because we raced who'll finish it first with him using mine and me using his...I won but it was unfair for him sad.gif ... and I asked my friend if he could buy an original cube and I'll just pay him in school biggrin.gif .... oh yah...I won BTW

  257. WiteNinja
    Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 18:52:36

    Currently Im skipping around in the methods im learning because im using layer-by-layer, but im learning in an order that is backwards.. Currently Im all algorithms so that I can perform 3-look last layer... I only have a few algs left.. but anyway.. it weird cuse im learnin the 3ll before ive learned how to F2L.. i need to figure out how to do that... its annoyin me.. im just procrastinating on it... but anyways... my times are currently down to around a minute average.. which im fine since Ive only been cubing for around 2-3 months now

  258. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 03:57:28

    @wite: LOL during school....

    anyways...I need to start memorizing PLLs...more like PITA

  259. iNoob
    Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 12:13:12

    just a recommendation. if you're gonna cube extensively in school, buy a good diy cube, make sure its pretty loose and practice one hand cubing. ;]

  260. 4GO57O
    Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 13:53:31

    yeah...but there are no DIY cubes in our place....I can only but in toys r us but from what I know there are non there...and my mom won't even let me buy a original cube unless the whole family gets out or if I convince her dry.gif

  261. FallenSeraph
    Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 21:23:19

    QUOTE (4GO57O @ Dec 13 2007, 07:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    WOOT...I borrowed my friends cube and when I was done I did 1 and a half minutes....my hands were shaking because we raced who'll finish it first with him using mine and me using his...I won but it was unfair for him sad.gif ... and I asked my friend if he could buy an original cube and I'll just pay him in school biggrin.gif .... oh yah...I won BTW

    having someone is really great for cubing. when cubing blew up in my neighborhood i was already at sub20 so no one was near me. but i got a couple of friends that could race around 40s.
    the thing about racing is that its best to stay calm and not think about the racing. let your mine wander. dont even think too much about the cubing. trust me, thats how i got my 15s single solve during rutgers. i looked up and was lik shit wtf that was 15s?

  262. Huroni
    Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 22:31:22

    Can I use Vaseline to lubricate a cube? will it mess up the cube?

    How much is silicone spray?!

  263. 4GO57O
    Date: Sat, Dec 15 2007 17:13:09

    yeah....that's how I am now tongue.gif

    I'm very happy a few hours ago when I used a fake cube and my time was 2 minutes 29 seconds biggrin.gif

    but I'm very sad since when my cube was fragile a small girl took it tried playing with it...it popped(and where the screw gets in...its like bigger now since I can't put it back n sad.gif )and she didn't give it back..well I now have no cube to use sad.gif
    and she didn't give it back..well I now have no cube to use sad.gif need to buy a new fake one loll

    any tips for F2L?I don't use it when I time myself I use LBL when I time myself since I'm a bit slower with F2L....or not lol

  264. dv297
    Date: Sun, Dec 16 2007 01:11:10

    Heh, I've been doing it for about a year now, best Christmas gift I've ever recieved. Still, I'm slow compared to the rest of the world, I quit majorly studying back during the summer. I've averaged 28.xx recently, using a store bought cube (also lubed it with silicone). I used the Fridrich method and only know half the PLL and OLL's.... just to show it doesn't take a million algorithms and a professional cube to get below a minute lol

    Vaseline works for lubricating, not as well though. I personally prefer silicone, and since its only like, $2 a can, just petty change for most people, just need to find a way to get to Home Depot lol.

  265. 4GO57O
    Date: Sun, Dec 16 2007 07:20:26

    I've been doing it for 3-4 days

  266. YourClone
    Date: Wed, Dec 19 2007 05:06:13

    I got an average of 47.87 yesterday, and tomorrow I'm getting a new cube(mine is kinda... crunchy? lol). So hopefully I can bring my times sub-40 over holiday break.

  267. 4GO57O
    Date: Wed, Dec 19 2007 14:35:51

    just got 2:03 even though I didn't practice as much...and a sorta broken cube too tongue.gif

    EDIT!!!: I JUST GOT 1:30!!!!! 5 days and at least went down by 5 minutes~!!WOOT>..no finger tricks no skip

  268. Crzyazn
    Date: Wed, Dec 19 2007 17:25:43

    YAY 43 sec non lucky solve

    3 look LL

    G permutation

  269. SilentAzn
    Date: Thu, Dec 20 2007 00:15:47

    i solved my first rubik cube (which is like... 10 years old...) today and i feel so victorious laugh.gif

  270. 4GO57O
    Date: Thu, Dec 20 2007 12:25:15

    now try solving it sub-1 minute tongue.gif I'm trying to get it sub-1 minute.... AND FAILING !!!! dry.gif

  271. SilentAzn
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 00:25:36

    i'll try to do that when i get a new cube wink.gif

  272. 4GO57O
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 03:25:49

    yeah...I myself need a new rubik's cube...3x3x3 rubik's cube...

    for exchange gift my friends got me a .... EASTSHEEN 2x2x2!!!I like it except it doesn't cut corners nice...
    guys... how do you disassemble a 2x2x2 cube? and how do I put in springs...

  273. iNoob
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 03:42:33

    jesus christ u can't modify the mechanism of the cubes yourself. and u can't cut corners for eastsheen cubes well as far as i'm concerned due to their mechanism.

  274. 4GO57O
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 03:51:18

    well...some can but it takes a lot of work(I forgot the name of the guy)....yeah ... but a guy modified it so it has springs and he said it was heaven... don't even know what thread I was on

  275. DaThroat
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 04:09:41

    I took an average a few days ago..

    29.66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
    6.... seconds.



    I should start learning the 21 PLL.

  276. iamk34n3
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 04:27:33

    can anyone tell me what method im using?? im new to cubing and i just know how to solve it...

    i solve the top cross first, then i solve the sides, then i solve the corners, after that i flip the cube over and solve the second layer, i then solve the top cross, and finally the corners

    thanks, and hope thats not too confusing

  277. 4GO57O
    Date: Sat, Dec 22 2007 02:50:39

    I forgot the name of he method but look for rubik's cube edges first methods was it waterman? I forgot...

  278. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sat, Dec 22 2007 13:21:27

    woot!

    got a new pb of 52 secs! ...but it was lucky

    best unlucky is 55 secs cool.gif

  279. FallenSeraph
    Date: Sat, Dec 22 2007 21:20:24

    QUOTE (DaThroat @ Dec 21 2007, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I took an average a few days ago..

    29.66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
    6.... seconds.



    I should start learning the 21 PLL.


    lol did you learn the oll first? thats kinda....yea
    pll will help your time MUCH more than oll. oll is much more for consistency than time. i got down to avg 25 with 3look. then oll put me at around 22, but with MUCH more consistency. and then better f2l put me sub 20.

  280. DaThroat
    Date: Sun, Dec 23 2007 06:00:43

    I don't know PLL or OLL.


    I use 4 look.. sort of.. biggrin.gif

    laugh.gif

  281. FallenSeraph
    Date: Tue, Dec 25 2007 07:19:20

    QUOTE (DaThroat @ Dec 23 2007, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't know PLL or OLL.


    I use 4 look.. sort of.. biggrin.gif

    laugh.gif

    lol okay that jus means youre spending wayy too much time on f2l. which actually is a very good thing. since f2l is what most ppl have to work on in order to lower their times once they get to the lower levels

  282. Crzyazn
    Date: Wed, Dec 26 2007 00:56:26

    Set myself a new record of 32 sec today. My f2l was crazy abnormal fast (for me) and i ran into familiar OLL and PLL cases

    im still using a store bought cube from target sad.gif

  283. yxTay
    Date: Wed, Dec 26 2007 02:33:15


    Check this out.

  284. SilentAzn
    Date: Wed, Dec 26 2007 05:40:15

    whoa! that's so cool! i want one of those! tongue.gif

    but can you speed solve those kind of cubes?

  285. 4GO57O
    Date: Thu, Jan 3 2008 21:55:28

    you can solve but I dunno about speedsolving...with that cube I mean...

    my new best time... 54.3!!1

  286. BananaKetchup
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 00:27:56

    Yay new unlucky record of 51.16 secs with my new LL method [fish]

  287. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 03:21:44

    EPIC (for me) biggrin.gif

    I went on a hot streak and memorized 10 permutation algorithms and my 3look LL is about 80% complete. Even with this my average has dropped to 45 sec from 1min!!!!!

    32.63sec best!!!!!!!! happy.gif

  288. Tofu
    Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 03:48:24

    I learned this a while ago. My average is 1:20, but best is like 42 secs.

  289. death
    Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 06:42:20

    finally can get to a sub-30 average laugh.gif
    still using my store bought cube dry.gif

  290. NoRice4U
    Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 01:59:47

    does solving it with rubix cube solution's count smile.gif jk well I have yet to learn how to solve one, any tips?

  291. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 05:05:39

    QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Jan 5 2008, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    does solving it with rubix cube solution's count smile.gif jk well I have yet to learn how to solve one, any tips?

    Find a nice solid method you can understand and then practice the heck out of it tongue.gif

  292. Tofu
    Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 05:06:12

    QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Jan 5 2008, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    does solving it with rubix cube solution's count smile.gif jk well I have yet to learn how to solve one, any tips?

    Here ya go. Right hand side has tutorials.
    http://www.rubiks.com/lvl3/index_lvl3.cfm?...amp;lvl3=compet

  293. 4GO57O
    Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 12:46:51

    a new record I got was 51.75 I did it in a airplane smile.gif badly lit to since everyone was sleeping still use basic LBL for speedsolving but I sometimes do fridrich F2L solves...

  294. BananaKetchup
    Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 10:09:03

    ownage!! 45 sec pb

  295. blugyblug
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 00:25:50

    I can solve it now laugh.gif but my best time is like ..2 and a half minutes sleep.gif.
    I wanna learn Fish, it seems easy and fast

  296. iamk34n3
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 00:56:44

    im not any better...my best time is about two minutes sad.gif

  297. BananaKetchup
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 09:32:17

    stupid f2l dry.gif

    takes to long

  298. 4GO57O
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 16:12:51

    it would take long at first but intuitive is faster

  299. death
    Date: Wed, Jan 9 2008 03:44:47

    i learned that doing a petrus method then learning a intuitive f2l is a lot easier than to try and learn f2l first? laugh.gif

  300. 4GO57O
    Date: Wed, Jan 9 2008 07:40:12

    yes it's most likely easier....and combine them do a extended cross 2x2x2 and then put in the other edges so it's a cross with one F2L pair already solved ... aka already in it's "slot" ,..


    and you guys do know jessica fridrich wasn't the first to use the method fridrich F2L wink.gif .. oop it's a common fact already but still yeah

  301. iNoob
    Date: Fri, Jan 11 2008 12:29:44

    WOHOO new best time of 15 secs. average 22-24 after a few warm up solves.

  302. DaThroat
    Date: Fri, Jan 11 2008 12:58:25

    haven't heard from you for awhile.. that's nice. laugh.gif


    i just got to a new school and many guys were impressed that i could do it sub 30. biggrin.gif

    and i'll bet in other countries guys are labeled 'nerd' for this. sad.gif

  303. Escapist1
    Date: Fri, Jan 11 2008 21:50:30

    I've been doing a rubiks cube for a couple of months now. No idea what method i use, but its where you use r'd'rd for the corners at the end. my fastest is 53 seconds, i average about a minute 10. I recently got a 4x4, and it is pretty crazy also

  304. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Jan 12 2008 04:02:35

    QUOTE (DaThroat @ Jan 11 2008, 04:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    haven't heard from you for awhile.. that's nice. laugh.gif


    i just got to a new school and many guys were impressed that i could do it sub 30. biggrin.gif

    and i'll bet in other countries guys are labeled 'nerd' for this. sad.gif

    i haven't gotten nerd. Just stares of awe at my rather average solves tongue.gif and comments about how i have "too much spare time"

  305. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Jan 12 2008 13:17:20

    you will get labelled as nerd if you're from a nerd school (like me). damn sad. haha but one day on the train i was on super good form and kept suanning the other passengers with my sub 20 solves. super fun. lucky they couldn see my ri badge =\

  306. 4GO57O
    Date: Sat, Jan 12 2008 16:05:00

    ri badge?

    what method do you use?I thinking if I'll use petrus method or fridrich method...for future use I mean...

    what were your times before you had a DIY cube or do use one?ph34r.gif

  307. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Jan 13 2008 02:34:09

    school badge. i use fredrich, and i can't remember my timing b4 i had a diy.

  308. DaThroat
    Date: Sun, Jan 13 2008 06:20:41

    wow you're from RI.


    i heard there are people from your school who average 10.

    is that true?

  309. ultimatsz
    Date: Sun, Jan 13 2008 10:35:04

    wa ri!!! respect.gif


    in singapore ri is pretty godlike
    jkjk. hey i have a video of dathroat cubing XD

  310. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Jan 13 2008 12:14:55

    no there's no1 average 10. only 1 guy average 17. and its really not such a big deal =.=

  311. DaThroat
    Date: Sun, Jan 13 2008 12:23:41

    big deal being in RI or big deal averaging 17?

    17 is like... ranked sub 100 at WCA i think. biggrin.gif

  312. 4GO57O
    Date: Sun, Jan 13 2008 13:08:03

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Jan 13 2008, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    school badge. i use fredrich, and i can't remember my timing b4 i had a diy.


    I was thinking that!>...well not really.
    oicdo you think I'm fast enough now to get one?
    still thinking if I should get one or not

    oh yeh my average with LBL is 1:02 and with fridrich F2L 1:07 Petrus F2L...I forgot


    why am I asking.. I WANT TO GET ONE/TWO/THREE!

  313. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Jan 13 2008 14:21:58

    @4GO570: just get 1. its good motivation to improve ur timing
    @DaThroat: no big deal being in RI

  314. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, Jan 13 2008 19:04:36

    If you truly feel like your cube is limiting you....just buy one!

  315. 4GO57O
    Date: Mon, Jan 14 2008 07:53:00

    yeah I know I just want to make sure that it's really necessary...

    @iNoob: well I was supposed to get one but I decided to buy two just incase(well the reason is a secret)

  316. 4GO57O
    Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 09:07:12

    YEAH!! new best time guyz


    47.xx seconds!!

  317. Sfsr
    Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 09:20:25

    A guy in my school beat my record last week. I have 32-something, he nailed 31.94 xD

  318. 4GO57O
    Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 13:13:12

    lol...

    what method do you use?


    a real life story lol(just happened)
    there will be a rubik's cube competition in out school and every section has no choice but to send a representative.l...the teacher thought of two names
    Bryan Agosto...Radel Dagdag

    I voted for him and he won the voting...
    some knew I was faster than him but didn't want to join since I hate being a rep.... and I have no cube that works dry.gif
    later on he was angry at me when he received news....from me that my best time was 47 seconds...his was 1:18...he was angry cause he's the representative even though I'm faster sad.gif

    I hope we're still friends DB

  319. Crzyazn
    Date: Thu, Jan 17 2008 03:51:43

    QUOTE (4GO57O @ Jan 16 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    and I have no cube that works dry.gif


    moocher tongue.gif

  320. SS4_Flames
    Date: Fri, Jan 18 2008 02:14:42

    Wow, I get an average of 55 seconds using Petrus. I've solved the 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, and the Square-1. Unfortunately, they all broke except for the 3x3. Has anyone tried to get sub 30 one-handed?

    Solve a 20x20x20?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpfz3m11bsk

    One-handed world-record?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRl9eTteF74

  321. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Jan 18 2008 02:21:10

    YES averaged 34 sec during lunchtime tongue.gif

    when i got home it got back to 40 dry.gif

  322. 4GO57O
    Date: Fri, Jan 18 2008 13:05:40

    @Crzyazn: lol that also happens to me sommetimes like for 10-12 solves I have a low average then it suddenly get's high...

    YEa best time: 38.96 !! WOoT

    EDIT: WOOT 34.19

  323. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 02:47:28

    hahaha still so slow....

  324. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 03:09:58

    that's cold man....

    got a diy and im still getting used to its speed

    got a 30.79 for my new best time wink.gif

  325. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 09:02:44

    haha i was just joking. but be warned ur improvement might start slowing down from this point on =\ happened to me

  326. Tanimax
    Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 18:39:48

    WOOT CUBE!

    My records a measly 41.81 fo rthe 3x3x3...

    Anybody solved a professors cube? I have biggrin.gif

  327. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 22:47:18

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Jan 19 2008, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    haha i was just joking. but be warned ur improvement might start slowing down from this point on =\ happened to me

    i was just joking about the "cold" thing too...your speeds are insane

    and i noticed that improvement is getting hard too...my times now hinge on my f2l assembly and permutation recognization

  328. Tanimax
    Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 01:42:41

    Professor's Cube


    Fun!

  329. Martin
    Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 01:47:20

    Played with a Professor's cube before
    just like the other cubes, 3x3x3 and 4x4x4, I only solved one side dry.gif

  330. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 02:00:32

    awww. i hate professors cube. takes too long to solve. i can do the 4x4x4 in 3 mins tho

  331. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 04:02:57

    what is the correct way to apply silicone spray?

    do i pop a piece out and spray the inside or do i have to dissassemble and coat every piece?

  332. randomstuff
    Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 23:19:15

    Either way works, but disassembling your cube and spraying every piece will give you much better results.

    Video

  333. B.I.M.
    Date: Tue, Jan 22 2008 19:12:11

    Lol. I was taught by Tanimax. I average at around 1 min 11 on the 3x3x3 and 33 secs on the 2x2x2

  334. Crzyazn
    Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 01:42:18

    HAHA 25.25sec biggrin.gif

    The diy makes my F2L magical laugh.gif

  335. iamk34n3
    Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 02:18:04

    hey does anybody have any tips or some website where i can get help on my f2l?

    i can do it, but it takes me longer than solving layer by layer...

    thanks in advance

  336. komas
    Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 02:18:59

    Is everyone here using Fridrich? (don't know if I spelled it right)

  337. randomstuff
    Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 05:11:52

    QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hey does anybody have any tips or some website where i can get help on my f2l?

    i can do it, but it takes me longer than solving layer by layer...

    thanks in advance


    Just practice. At first, the standard F2L will take longer than the LBL method (or whatever it's called lol) but you will get much faster with practice. Also be sure you can fix weird cases (like the ones shown here) and always look ahead.

  338. 4GO57O
    Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 10:06:16

    yea I'm gonna buy a 4x4x4 now and the credit card won't work on our cube4you order..WAH!!anyway

    new PB :33.97

  339. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 10:43:04

    dun buy the rubiks 4x4x4 buy the eastsheen 1. its much better

  340. 4GO57O
    Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 11:40:56

    yeah I know wink.gif I can solve up to the LL PLL

  341. Crzyazn
    Date: Thu, Jan 24 2008 03:50:20

    **** N PERMUTATION dry.gif

    Im getting close to a sub30 average...just need to work on ingraining more F2L cases into my brain and eyes

  342. Katantoon
    Date: Wed, Jan 30 2008 15:04:14

    i just started last week. my average time is 4 min

  343. Gunblakes
    Date: Thu, Jan 31 2008 06:53:35

    Nice thread. Does anyone solve the cube using Roux method here? Its an unorthodox method, but sure is good. I average about 35 secs without memorizing the algorithims, i must really find some time to learn them....

  344. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Feb 1 2008 04:59:15



    eh 30 sec...it's very good for me

  345. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 15:55:17

    Well i have 2.5cm x 2.5 cm Rubix cube...very small and hard to do. it took my 1minute 48 seconds with fastest with it. i can't flick the blocks with finger. it gets stuck.

    I tried my friends full large Rubix cube...very easy to do nice size. it took me 49 seconds to solve at my first try. I could flick the blocks so easily without getting stuck. i don't have to move my whole hand with each move!


    if i practice, i might get up to 30 seconds or so

  346. 4GO57O
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 13:05:22

    nice to both happy.gif

    what is the average number of moves for a petrus method?(experts or normal ones)

  347. Lefty
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 17:26:45

    I have a 1:59 time
    without any fingertricking

    I really should learn...

  348. Rorix
    Date: Tue, Feb 5 2008 04:30:25

    Haven't been cubing much lately, but I can get under a minute consistently now smile.gif

  349. caroline
    Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 01:31:43

    If I have someone solve it for me first, I can make a cool design and put it back together.. but I can't solve myself.

  350. 4GO57O
    Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 12:24:04

    my best w/o finger tricks is around 5o s I thnk

    and my new best tmie is!!

    26.32 biggrin.gif

  351. Zigosity
    Date: Thu, Feb 14 2008 03:07:36

    Like the huge idiot I am, I ignored everything I'd been told about lubricating cubes and used something random from my garage. The insides of my original cube melted almost instantly. Yay.

    Anyway, this gives me a good excuse to order the really nice white DIY I've been wanting, and to actually make an effort to pick up some silicone spray. sleep.gif. Just sucks I have nothing to solve for a couple weeks.

    -Zigo

  352. UEDan
    Date: Thu, Feb 14 2008 05:18:53

    QUOTE (caroline @ Feb 10 2008, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If I have someone solve it for me first, I can make a cool design and put it back together.. but I can't solve myself.



    hehehe your just like a friend of mine!

  353. Gunblakes
    Date: Thu, Feb 14 2008 12:00:53

    QUOTE (Zigosity @ Feb 13 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Like the huge idiot I am, I ignored everything I'd been told about lubricating cubes and used something random from my garage. The insides of my original cube melted almost instantly. Yay.

    Anyway, this gives me a good excuse to order the really nice white DIY I've been wanting, and to actually make an effort to pick up some silicone spray. sleep.gif. Just sucks I have nothing to solve for a couple weeks.

    -Zigo



    Lawl, you should have listened to other people's advice. Silicone lube is still the best for cubes, it doesnt eat the plastic. DIY cubes are nice, I have one myself. In these two weeks, maybe you could PS more lol. biggrin.gif

  354. Zigosity
    Date: Fri, Feb 15 2008 03:42:35

    Ordered a new black DYI tonight, should arrive sometime next week. Super excited about it : P. Gonna buy some REAL lube tomorrow morning, stuff that won't melt it xD. After I get used to the new cube I'm probably going to get started learning intuitive F2L stuff. : D. Yay.

    -Zigo

  355. SSWind
    Date: Fri, Feb 15 2008 03:49:38

    Everyone who is getting sub 1min and sub30sec congrats laugh.gif .

    I just picked up the F2L so I'm working on it little by little. Also trying to learn the OLL and PLL I don't know much but enough. I mostly solve about 1min most of the time.

    For the people using the F2L method on average did you start with the intuitive way of learning or jumped right into the algorithms?

    I should be posting a new video of my solving maybe sub 1min using F2L (eventually sub 30 and such when OLL and PLL are learned. tongue.gif .)

  356. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Feb 15 2008 03:54:49

    Intuitive first.

    I experimented for a long time trying to figure out the optimal pair/insert combination for every case. After practicing intuitive f2l for about a month, i looked at the "real" algorithms and with the exception of a couple of inconvenient cases, my intuitive algorithms were THE EXACT same as the official ones

    and learning intuitively first gives you a feel for how each corner+edge pair is constructed

  357. blugyblug
    Date: Sat, Feb 16 2008 08:38:50

    1:15 is my ave, but 1:05 is my record... What patterns can u guys make? These are the only ones I can do. The classic "dot in the centre" thingy. Theres a green centre piece on a fully orange face... on all faces...and the checkers.

    BTW Can someone give me a link for a good F2L or Fish Tutorial? Right now im doing Layer by Layer and i wanna improve my times.

  358. Gunblakes
    Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 02:49:09

    QUOTE (blugyblug @ Feb 16 2008, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    1:15 is my ave, but 1:05 is my record... What patterns can u guys make? These are the only ones I can do. The classic "dot in the centre" thingy. Theres a green centre piece on a fully orange face... on all faces...and the checkers.

    BTW Can someone give me a link for a good F2L or Fish Tutorial? Right now im doing Layer by Layer and i wanna improve my times.



    For F2L, the way i learnt it was by inituition. Most people learn by inituition, and most F2L tuts are based on inituition too. If you really want to learn it by memorizing F2L algorithms, its ok, but I feel that learning it inituitively would be easier as opposed to memorizing algs. Heres a good link : F2L tutorial by Dan

    Btw Roux is a really good inituitive method for those that are lazy to memorize algs, like me. It requires significantly lesser algs to memorize than the Fridriech method, and can be as fast as it too.

  359. 4GO57O
    Date: Sun, Feb 17 2008 13:49:12

    intutitive and I'm gonna go algo when I'm 25 on average


    BTW new best time for me 25.xx

  360. Thnikkaman
    Date: Mon, Feb 18 2008 02:06:00

    i can get to second row and then i cheat. laugh.gif

  361. WiteNinja
    Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 01:09:38

    So currently I am at a ~55 sec average with my best time being ~30 secs... Im using a Friedrich intuitive F2L method with about 1/2 of 3-look last layer memorized... I feel that I am working my way through the Rubik conundrum considering Ive only done it for about 3 or so months now... just thought you guys might be interested

  362. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 02:15:34

    ima goin to start memorizing the painful OLL algorithms now huh.gif

  363. hiryuukatana
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 02:52:23

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Feb 22 2008, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ima goin to start memorizing the painful OLL algorithms now huh.gif


    lol. there are like 60 of those then 20 PLL ones. im sub 30 with a few OLL no PLL and intuitive F2l.

  364. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 03:16:03

    i just recently cracked sub30 (actually i really just didn't time myself for about 1 month)

    sub30 with 20/21 PLL 7/56 OLL (aka most of 3LookLL)

  365. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 08:33:49

    hell mang

    im stuck at 45 secs its lykl... gay as

  366. blugyblug
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 08:48:12

    @BK werent u supposed to post a Fish tut or something.... u told me dry.gif

  367. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 09:26:08

    yeh but my camera got stuffed...


    just come to my house or sumthing afta skool and ill teach u

  368. blugyblug
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 09:33:18

    Uhh k when?

  369. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 09:42:11

    next friday or sumfink i dunno i might go to a dance class in para

    EDIT- ok i just realised i shouldnt discuss this here... so to improve my post: yay new PB 42.xx

  370. DaThroat
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 07:15:57

    I'm still averaging about 30 with 4 Look LL.


    Haven't really been practicing, though I recently became interested in doing one-hand solves.

  371. AsianPlaya
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 23:48:06

    my fastest time was 45 secs i use friedrich method

  372. komas
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 02:51:51

    I've been cubing for about a year, and my best time so far is 14.59, and my average is around 19 sec. w/ Fridrich method. I'm trying to improve one hand and blindfold times, but pen spinning is taking over everything...

    Does anyone go to competitions?

  373. hiryuukatana
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 05:46:50

    i went to one 2 years ago in San Diego but i was 38 sec average which sucks.

  374. komas
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 02:26:36

    That's not bad for a competition. I also had 38 sec average for my first competition

  375. Crzyazn
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 02:33:47

    no competitions in seattle huh.gif

  376. komas
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 07:33:49

    I think that's one of the bigger problems with speedcubing in the US. There are a few concentrated areas like SoCal, while most people are scattered around the country. If you can find enough people, you should think about organizing a competition, even if it isn't official, or you can compete in the Sunday contest online.

  377. Crzyazn
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 05:49:16

    oooohhh possible free stickers for participation?

    I should've done that 3 months ago biggrin.gif

  378. BananaKetchup
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 09:25:32

    OMFG i think i lost my white cube angryfire.gif sad.gif

  379. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 19:04:24

    WOOHOO

    26.42 avg of 12

    with two solves above 30sec dry.gif

  380. Typo
    Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 04:44:28

    I can solve it.

    I use Fridrich's method, Lar's method is like ... I've attempted trying to learn it, but building up on corner's is a bit confusing since I started cubing by layer to layer.

  381. Sigurd W
    Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 22:13:18

    I recently got my first sub20 average! my PB is 16.16 (it was a bit lucky as I skipped a whole step of my solution tho) but I have hit several 16s and 17s.

    if you practice everyday your times should drop below 1 min really quickly.
    I got my first sub30 avg about half a year ago. I still practice it everyday along with my other hobbies.. tongue.gif

    good luck!

  382. awsome
    Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 20:14:29

    I have been cubing for 2 1/2 months now. I average 58 seconds. My best was 44 seconds I use intuitve F2L I have like ten algoritims for the top layer. I don't know how much I can improve without memorizing a hundreds of algorithims, but I try to practise everyday.

  383. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 21:24:36

    "hundreds" of algorithms REALLY isn't that hard biggrin.gif

    If you can overcome your fear of algorithms.....Fridrich is a cinch. Full PLL used to be a legendary goal for me, but now it's routine.

  384. Gunblakes
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 01:35:40

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Mar 10 2008, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    "hundreds" of algorithms REALLY isn't that hard biggrin.gif

    If you can overcome your fear of algorithms.....Fridrich is a cinch. Full PLL used to be a legendary goal for me, but now it's routine.



    Isnt PLL just 17+ or so algorithms? mellow.gif I guess you must be talking bout OLL algs lol. For those that do not feel like learning "hundreds" of algs, theres an alternative method, called the Roux method, which relies heavily on algs. You only need to rmb like 48 algs or so, as compared to the "hundreds" for Fridrich, and the times you can achieve are on par with Fridrich times.

  385. Crzyazn
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 02:37:19

    I feared PLL cuz some of the algorithms were 15 moves long

    anyways...the F2l part of fridrich doesn't need "algorithms", intuition is better than memorization when you start off, because some of them (like RU'R) are just common sense

  386. AsianPlaya
    Date: Sun, Mar 16 2008 12:22:59

    Just wondering if anyones going to the Princeton Open

  387. SilentAzn
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 12:10:46

    You know, i don't consider solving the Rubik cube just "solving" it anymore... now i try to create patterns like each side has an H/I or i try to make an O. you get me? but does anyone else do this?

  388. PenCell
    Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 21:21:28

    I use the layer by layer method. Fastest 24.17 seconds booyah! happyy.gif

  389. 4GO57O
    Date: Fri, Mar 21 2008 01:09:58

    haha nice...I did a 21.xx LBL before >_<

    oh yah..I'm sub 30 now(only if I'm racing with a sub 25 girl/not sure about a guy)

    I use cfop...i know 11 of OLL and 11 of PLL

  390. Viper-X
    Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 08:12:37

    I never had the rubik cube much, only for about a month and my fastest was 3-4 minutes averaging 4/5 minutes. I was about to improve that when my rubiks cube broke sad.gif So basically i have no rubik cube to spin with

  391. Zigosity
    Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 04:16:20

    Just started getting sub 40 times today, best is 38.86 : P. I'm just starting on using 4LookLL, then going for PLLs in the near future. Oh, and ordering a 4x4\5x5 soon :3.

  392. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 05:48:29

    Everyone's getting better...... ohmy.gif

    i've been averaging near sub25 for a while....

    im so close dry.gif

  393. Huroni
    Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 14:00:31

    I is learninz f2lz. It's helping me alot. I feel my time going down smile.gif

    WIN WIN WIN

  394. jabss
    Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 07:44:22

    i desperately want a rubik's cube but i cant (be bothered to) find one. does anyone have a spare they're willing to sell? i tried ebay but all they have are hong kong ones at the moment (dodgy)

  395. Crzyazn
    Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 03:27:10

    um it appears you be in australia?

    you aren't searching hard enough on ebay....

    there's an australian seller (liquidsound) and a hawaiin dude (Puzzleproz)

  396. jabss
    Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 06:28:33

    shit! my bad... i actually haven't searched ebay for a while, will bide my time. thanks tho!

  397. BananaKetchup
    Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 10:19:23

    chinese cubes arnt dodgy... thats what most people use, like the ones from cube4you

  398. Hellblaza
    Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 11:23:40

    Yay! After 4 days, I can do 2 layers without looking at any algorithms. happy.gif Feeling proud here =O

    Now all I have to do is work on corner/edge swapping dry.gif

  399. jabss
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 06:46:56

    QUOTE (jabss @ Apr 3 2008, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    shit! my bad... i actually haven't searched ebay for a while, will bide my time. thanks tho!


    not the cubes themselves, the fact that they sometimes don't send it - scammers and stuff. it's best to b safe.

  400. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 16:53:14

    Ebay does have scammers yes...

    but you'll notice that the REAL cube sellers have stores and insane sales records (900+sales)

  401. Dritan Zulbeari
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 22:01:56

    Just got a cube today.
    Anyone recommend any methods of solving?
    Im not looking for speed just yet; more of just actually solving it.
    Cause I know just trial and error is going to probably get me no where.

  402. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 03:06:59

    Im not pro but being sub25 adds a little weight to my advice biggrin.gif

    http://peter.stillhq.com/jasmine/rubikscubesolution.html

    might seem ambitious but trust me....learning the concepts of Orienting (OLL) and Permutation (PLL) early will set you up for later if you choose to continue wink.gif

  403. Dritan Zulbeari
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 04:35:29

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Apr 10 2008, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Im not pro but being sub25 adds a little weight to my advice biggrin.gif

    http://peter.stillhq.com/jasmine/rubikscubesolution.html

    might seem ambitious but trust me....learning the concepts of Orienting (OLL) and Permutation (PLL) early will set you up for later if you choose to continue wink.gif

    Good method.
    Finally solved it.

  404. tomohiro
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 06:13:33

    i am such a noob compared to everyone else mines only 46 seconds dry.gif

  405. Dritan Zulbeari
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 06:20:02

    Im like at 4 minutes. So ya dont feel bad.

  406. jabss
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 10:53:17

    righty o groucho.gif

  407. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 22:21:28

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrO3S8BezK4

    now iNoob or DaThroat will pop up and pwn me with sub20 laugh.gif

  408. Imposter
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 23:05:38

    Crzyazn, a lot of mistakes, you say? I'm like a crumb compared to you. dry.gif

  409. SevinosI
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 23:42:18

    i been cubing for a year now and my average is a minute and i learned the LBL method which i say is a beginner method and with solving the cube with this method i got and average of one minute. now i learned F2L method which i still have to practice and when i get it down i'm going to put both methods together to get a better time. laugh.gif

  410. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 12:23:47

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Apr 14 2008, 06:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrO3S8BezK4

    now iNoob or DaThroat will pop up and pwn me with sub20 laugh.gif


    lol no la. lazy to take vid. anyway i kinda stopped alr. can still solve sub 30 so i'm happy.

  411. Housetek
    Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 02:38:29

    i use the normal method and can solve in about 1:25 average. best time was 55 seconds or somthing.

    I still cant do it very well with one hand, takes me forever i dont even bother timing it. About 10 minutes or so.

    my hands are small so hard to manipulate the cube.

    I've made 2 custom cubes also, they're a bit harder to solve then the normal b/c the middle pieces have to align just right

  412. hknl13
    Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 07:24:34

    finally hit a consistent 20, now working on sub 20

  413. asian pen
    Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 05:44:56

    i can solve the first 2 layers....

  414. wizwarezx
    Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 07:50:07

    I am from sgcubers.........singapore speed cubers group.

    Me avg is 29s......best timing was 20s

    HAHA....and i am using beginers method to speedcube! tongue.gif

  415. DaThroat
    Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 08:09:35

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Apr 14 2008, 06:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrO3S8BezK4

    now iNoob or DaThroat will pop up and pwn me with sub20 laugh.gif

    That looks really efficient. Your aren't turning that fast but you still achieved 23 secs. NICE!

  416. minche
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 21:04:58

    yay, i finally can solve Rubik's cube
    i'm using beginner's method now,still not too fast smile.gif

  417. ehntoo
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 23:27:53

    I average 25ish. I'm still learning the Fridrich OLLs, but have all the PLLs and F2Ls down. smile.gif

    PSing helps my fingers move faster on the Rubiks Cube.

  418. RicH
    Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 08:23:47

    Go to learn2cube.com, you can learn the steps on how to solve the cube there, plus it has Java applets so you can see how to move the cube. That's where I learned to solve my cube, although the cube is messed up now D:

  419. 4GO57O
    Date: Sun, May 4 2008 15:17:34

    im also around 25ish biggrin.gif but i only know 14 oll and pll >S madness... and 1 F2L alg lol ohmy.gif any tips? its hard to do bottom cross sad.gif( i do top then turn the cube upside down

  420. Ralys
    Date: Sun, May 4 2008 15:25:00

    my avg is 1.30s, record - 40seconds smile.gif It's not hard actually, just you have findout how to solve it by yourself, cause if you will search in net etc. you won't be so good. Because if you make it by yourself, you have technique, that works for you best. That's my opinion wink.gif

  421. ehntoo
    Date: Sun, May 4 2008 16:08:55

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Apr 13 2008, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrO3S8BezK4

    now iNoob or DaThroat will pop up and pwn me with sub20 laugh.gif


    *pops up and pwns you*

  422. Crzyazn
    Date: Sun, May 4 2008 18:43:41

    methinks you gave yourself a 1 move cross wink.gif

  423. komas
    Date: Tue, May 6 2008 23:59:57

    Yes! I finally got a sub20 in competition! (18.56 and 19.25)
    But I lost my good cube. mellow.gif

  424. ehntoo
    Date: Wed, May 7 2008 01:59:43

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ May 4 2008, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    methinks you gave yourself a 1 move cross wink.gif

    Nah, its actually 3 or 4 but I do it really fast.

  425. 4GO57O
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 10:43:36

    guys how come i have only two perms left to memo(and a whole lot more of OLL) but my SD is still high..
    in my latest session my ave was sub25 but my SD was sub 2

  426. komas
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 14:20:02

    you need to have a fast F2L, like at least under 13 sec to get sub 20 consistently. Also, learn more algs!

  427. 4GO57O
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 17:27:42

    ...my F2L ranges from sub16 to sub14..grrr so you could guess my LL is damn slow...
    learn more algs as in..more OLL? i want to learn COLL smile.gif im thinking bout it biggrin.gifD

    my latest LBL ave is sub 27 cool.gif lol

    Edit: only the two N perms from the PLL more smile.gif) but the OLL..LOL ..

    Edit#2:damn can't understand the COLL lol

    BTW i like my store brought cubes better than my DIYs cool.gif

  428. Crzyazn
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 21:42:00

    I have 12-13sec F2L
    but hella slow LL....like 9sec avg tongue.gif

    Rather than loading up on algorithms, optimize your current ones. I still need to get like 3/4 of my PLLs sub3 and only like 4 touch sub2 every once in a while

    It is quite common to get sub20 average using 3LookLL from what i hear...

  429. 4GO57O
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 02:32:20

    i kno crzyazn xD but i cant do 3 look w/o memoing the last N perms tongue.gif so yeah,,
    latest ave is sub25 grr...

    my F2L is fine but in the LL...its so hard to do it very fast on purpose

  430. Crzyazn
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 02:51:52

    Fingertricks are your friend, im still learning how to convert the LL algs I know to pure muscle memory biggrin.gif

    If you are really lazy....you can turn any Nperm into a Jperm using Jperm

    and F2L is never fine, it can always improve!

  431. Gunblakes
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 06:08:58

    Do most people solve with cross on white face?

  432. Dritan Z
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 06:56:53

    I do mine on the green...Don't know why.

  433. 4GO57O
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 12:37:05

    since my sube is japanese scheme i use blue...
    and yes i setup my n perm to j perm tongue.gif

    we can buy type Ds in the philippines for a cheap price :)like 2-4 dollars
    i have an orange one biggrin.gifD

    my finger tricks are sorta ok for now tongue.gif but i still need to make good finger tricks for G perm >S

    hmm gonna fix my tension brb.

  434. komas
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 14:02:27

    ur so lucky! I've wanting a type D for a while but I have no idea how much the shipping is to the US, and I'm afraid to find out.
    I use a white type a at the moment.

  435. 4GO57O
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 20:56:57

    tongue.gif hmm...an old friend of mine(sorta) said that his brother?or something bought for him..he said it was in a store...it was a Diy i got to use it and its yea a diy but it looks more fragile?or something close to that but i doubt it smile.gif [in america[US]]

    i doubt the shipping will be too big but yea you're in US

    BTW make sure to have replacement stickers in handy x) we buy our type ds here pre assembled..

    well ours are not stickered with pvc dunno bout from c4u

  436. komas
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 22:56:17

    Yeah, cube4you comes completely premade, and the stickers are supposed to be in some weird order.
    And I just got 3 consecutive BLD solves, so I'm biggrin.gif

  437. Darkeh
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 22:57:43

    My mom got a 4x4x4, I haven't tried it yet, but she hasn't gotten it down yet either, so she cant theach me this type like she did 3x3x3 confusedsmilie.gif

  438. guitarlord933
    Date: Sat, May 10 2008 03:56:50

    pshh my history teacher jacked mine because i was playing w/ it in class
    i hope he doesnt jack my pen
    ooohhh poor pen i love you

  439. 4GO57O
    Date: Sat, May 10 2008 09:56:40

    thats why you dont play in class tongue.gif

    off topic:i just downloaded CS 1.5 even if i have 1.6 non steam so im laugh.gif

  440. someone
    Date: Mon, May 12 2008 22:42:38

    I know vaseline eats away the cube, but someone I know lubed it w/ it, then removed it a few days later and his cube has been fine for a while.

  441. Crzyazn
    Date: Tue, May 13 2008 03:14:55

    Vaseline doesn't do really major damage, but it isn't exactly healthy either.

    On a generally crappy cube, vaseline will make the cube turn smoother and a little bit faster.

    But because of it's viscosity, you won't get the same results on a higher grade speedcube, where it gunks up the insides and hinders speeds.

    22.04 average w00t biggrin.gif

  442. komas
    Date: Tue, May 13 2008 13:44:09

    Does anyone do Square-1?
    BTW, 15.64 and 3:32.80 blindfold!!!!!

  443. 4GO57O
    Date: Tue, May 13 2008 18:03:29

    nice nice!! havent practiced for a while but i just recently got a sub 23 ave >_> like 2 days ago after that never practiced again....grrrr

  444. Zigosity
    Date: Tue, May 20 2008 03:06:44

    One of my friends used Vaseline to lube his cube; it's almost unusable now, and cleaning it out to lube it properly was a huge pain.

    In other news, 28.xx PB with a 34.xx average now. : D.

  445. Awesome
    Date: Tue, May 20 2008 03:11:41

    I used Vaseline on my cube, it got bad so I relubed it with Vaseline about 4 months ago and it still spins really nice.


    I picked up my cube today and I am above a minute now sad.gif I've been pen spinning instead so it's expected.

  446. Crzyazn
    Date: Tue, May 20 2008 03:14:09

    There are plenty of better cube lubricants out there. But to the casual cuber, Vaseline is more of a "common sense" choice rather than the best choice.

    Average of 21.37 happy.gif

    I'm lookin to set new PB averages every week

  447. Gunblakes
    Date: Tue, May 20 2008 14:10:57

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ May 19 2008, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    There are plenty of better cube lubricants out there. But to the casual cuber, Vaseline is more of a "common sense" choice rather than the best choice.

    Average of 21.37 happy.gif

    I'm lookin to set new PB averages every week


    Wow, nice improvement! Wish I could be as motivated to learn algs...

  448. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, May 20 2008 15:11:57

    I can solve in about 3 minutes with an algorithm sheet in front of me. XD.

  449. someone
    Date: Tue, May 20 2008 18:55:54

    I solve 1-2 minutes...

  450. mastah
    Date: Tue, May 20 2008 19:37:08

    i solve in 2 min and 38 seconds wink.gif

  451. Missle_Z
    Date: Fri, May 23 2008 05:07:05

    I solve LBL around 1:30 on ave.
    Should I start solving with the F2L method?

  452. ycag3db1rd
    Date: Fri, May 23 2008 16:27:58

    well i made my LBL sub 40 then went to fridrich.now my LBL is sub 28? ^^

  453. Missle_Z
    Date: Sat, May 24 2008 01:07:21

    What do you mean by sub? Sorry I'm not really all that into cubing and I don't know any lingo about it so yeah... >_<

  454. Awesome
    Date: Sat, May 24 2008 01:08:26

    sub means below, in cubing, or even temperatures, (sub-zero)

    so below that time

  455. 000zero0000
    Date: Sat, May 24 2008 02:05:20

    wow doesnt that slow you down?

  456. Dritan Z
    Date: Sat, May 24 2008 02:55:06

    Finally leaned how to solve it.

    What method is the one that pogobat uses in his tutorial videos?
    this tutorial

    What other ways is their that doesnt involve to much memorization and has a quick solve?
    I can do that one just fine..averaging about 1:45

  457. Craeos
    Date: Sat, May 24 2008 05:29:19

    I can solve it. Sometimes. X-D
    Sometimes I need the algorithm sheet, and sometimes I remember. But I'm definitely over a minute.

  458. komas
    Date: Sat, May 24 2008 14:49:26

    It's a simplified Fridrich method that almost everyone learns when they start speedcubing. I think it's the same solution that comes with the Rubik's cube.

    If you want a faster beginner method, I suggest using the one at Cubefreak. The algorithms are longer, but I think that it's the same number.

    Other methods include the Roux method and the Petrus method.

  459. Gunblakes
    Date: Sat, May 24 2008 15:24:03

    Does anyone even use the Roux method around here? I could use a little tips on block-building. : < My average is now 40 secs, with no algs learnt. dry.gif

  460. wizwarezx
    Date: Sun, May 25 2008 13:42:40

    i solve my cube with red first......

  461. ycag3db1rd
    Date: Sun, May 25 2008 14:32:50

    i can do roux happy.gif but i like petrus more[somehow]

    my main method though is CFOP...havent solved not once this past week dry.gif

    Edit: I like petrus more than CFOP method

  462. mastah
    Date: Sun, May 25 2008 15:08:26

    I beat my record biggrin.gif
    now 1 minute and 58 seconds

  463. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, May 26 2008 00:09:49

    New average

    20.97

    I'm happy but i can always get faster wink.gif

  464. Gunblakes
    Date: Mon, May 26 2008 15:41:43

    QUOTE (Crzyazn @ May 25 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    New average

    20.97

    I'm happy but i can always get faster wink.gif


    : < How do you get motivated to get faster? Cubing is boring for me, PSing is more fun. dry.gif

  465. Crzyazn
    Date: Mon, May 26 2008 18:36:39

    The fact that there is SO MUCH ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT intrigues me in anything i do, including psing and rubik's cube. Knowing that so many people exceed me only makes me want to practice more and improve myself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdLKG5lstyQ

    My style is....ugly but it works for now laugh.gif

  466. SiPhuYoda
    Date: Mon, May 26 2008 19:36:37

    I use Fridrich's method.

    I have a record of 25 seconds and an average of about 42 seconds.

  467. wizwarezx
    Date: Mon, May 26 2008 23:51:24

    Hey, try using dan brown's beginner method to speedcube. If you practice hard,u can get to avg of 26-28s using that method.
    Like me!!1

  468. shoeman6
    Date: Tue, May 27 2008 00:48:31

    I feel really bad =| meh ebst time is 80 secs, and I only use 5 algorithms so i feel stupid...

  469. someone
    Date: Wed, May 28 2008 00:25:26

    just got my diy cube

    its amazing even though it's not lubed (yet)

  470. ehntoo
    Date: Wed, May 28 2008 01:17:18

    My goal is sub-17 avg this summer. It should be doable. mellow.gif

  471. Goodie
    Date: Wed, May 28 2008 07:23:47

    In answer to the topics question:

    Can i solve the rubiks cube?
    No

  472. Duckrus
    Date: Wed, May 28 2008 22:54:02

    I went and solved my cube today actually got sub 60 i was amazed laugh.gif . I havent picked it up for about a year.

  473. COOL_DUDE
    Date: Tue, Jun 3 2008 14:17:49

    QUOTE (UnEmploymentDude @ Sep 10 2007, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I hear the DIYs cubes pop out easily. And if you want to solve your twisting problem, lube your cube!


    the best way to lube a cube (hey it rhymes) is to remove it all add vaseline and then stick it together again
    that works well for me-my time is 36 seconds on an average laugh.gif

  474. someone
    Date: Tue, Jun 3 2008 18:45:16

    Vaseline eats away the plastic of better quality cubes (e.g. diy). I believe silicon is a lot better.

  475. nateiskewl
    Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 14:51:55

    YAY! New record of 1:51. biggrin.gif

  476. ToastyRage
    Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 01:39:10

    My fastest so far has been 2 minutes. I've been cubing for a week.

  477. xonon
    Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 03:12:46

    I averaged about 45 seconds like a year and a half ago.
    And since I haven't really practiced since then, I bet I'm at 1:15 and I forgot some of my algorithms.
    I use a really really bad unlubed cube where all the pieces pop out simply because the inside has worn down from about 2 years ago. If I take up cubing again, I'll need to get a DIY cube.

  478. Missle_Z
    Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 03:25:14

    I feel sad that I can only solve in a minute and ten seconds after 3 weeks =/.

  479. someone
    Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 21:46:47

    QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Jun 4 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I feel sad that I can only solve in a minute and ten seconds after 3 weeks =/.

    Don't feel bad, I've cubed about that long and I've only got a few sub60 times...

  480. Vanota
    Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 02:14:48

    Petrus method. Average of 43 seconds, best 38.84. Just lubed it though, and with practice I can average around 30 soon. biggrin.gif

  481. QuestionMark
    Date: Tue, Jun 10 2008 15:55:54

    a friend of mine just taught me how to solve a cube, yay ^^
    only problem is I only found one cheap cube in my house, and it's impossibe to try and solve it, it'll take forever >_>
    time to find myself a cube :3

  482. Kari-Chan
    Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 04:04:59

  483. nateiskewl
    Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 17:42:13

    Well, I can get a steady average of 1:50 now with LBL. When I can do 1:30 average, I'm going to learn a new method. What's the easiest method to learn after knowing LBL?

  484. Awesome
    Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 22:46:28

    I would say F2L

  485. Duckrus
    Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 03:06:31

    Hrm I just had a thought, is cubing really manipulating anything? I mean its a puzzle all you're doing is solving a puzzle... so is doing a jigsaw puzzle a manipulation too? random thought....

  486. komas
    Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 03:23:52

    QUOTE (Duckrus @ Jun 16 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hrm I just had a thought, is cubing really manipulating anything? I mean its a puzzle all you're doing is solving a puzzle... so is doing a jigsaw puzzle a manipulation too? random thought....


    I dunno, but I think this qualifies as manipulation. (Macky is god bowdown.gif)

  487. Clyde
    Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 12:02:11

    i dont like rubiks cube bcuz..i cant solve it!! i dont get all the Fi Ui stuff...>< Ri Di R D its hard... ><

  488. BlackOut
    Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 12:20:42

    I'm not that bad.. My best timing is like 32 seconds and my average of 5 is about 38... haha.. I'm using F2L OLL and PLL but i have not learnt everything. I only obtained that timing after.. 3-4months of practice.

  489. kvncbk
    Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 14:49:13

    1x1x1 rubik's cube http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/HowTo:Solve_T...ubik's_Cube
    tongue.gif

  490. GrotesqueFilth13851
    Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 20:02:03

    My best for the 3x3x3 is 16.35.

  491. blacklotus
    Date: Sat, Jul 5 2008 04:56:22

    my average is about sub 50s with intuitive f2l and then a more advanced method of the begineer's method lol. hardly play it nowadays since i got into ps.

  492. fusionnoble
    Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 21:49:50

    QUOTE (blacklotus @ Jul 5 2008, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    my average is about sub 50s with intuitive f2l and then a more advanced method of the begineer's method lol. hardly play it nowadays since i got into ps.



    wow I have just about the same story...
    55 secs is approx. my record.

  493. MrData
    Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 03:45:33

    I've been speedcubing for about 1 1/2 years. My record is about 28 seconds with the Fridrich method.
    I haven't really touched a cube in a couple of months though, because people at school were annoying me about it.

  494. fanwuq
    Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 16:39:01

    This is awesome!
    Cubing is my main hobby. I plan on getting somewhat good at penspinning so that I have something to do when I don't have my cube. I think the main advantage of penspinning is that you don't have to go out to buy different cubes and it's much easier to carry a pen. Most importantly, if you penspin in class, the teacher can't take away your pen, but they can take away your cubes.

    Of course, I can't turn the cube very fast, I believe my fastest turning speed is like 8 TPS. I can do the U perm in about 1.3 seconds (actually even faster than my Sune.)
    some of my cubing videos:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MJPmZT1MEU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Wn386g3Uw

    http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/record.cgi?d...ame=Wuqiong+Fan

    My main interest in cubing though, is not dexterity, but solving blindfolded and fewest moves.

    For speed, I do use Fridrich, but I like ZZ and Petrus better.

    OH cubing is probably the closest thing in cubing to penspinning. I used to do that a lot.

  495. TRoc
    Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 20:05:57

    QUOTE (fanwuq @ Jul 28 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    For speed, I do use Fridrich, but I like ZZ and Petrus better.

    How many PLL and OLL algs have you memorized?

  496. fanwuq
    Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 20:09:03

    QUOTE (TRoc @ Jul 28 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How many PLL and OLL algs have you memorized?


    All PLLs. And about 23 OLLs. I don't like OLLs. I'm really considering to switch to petrus or ZZ and finish with OLL and EPLL or perhaps learn some ZBLLs.

  497. matthewk206
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 07:38:55

    my best time is 46.62 seconds.

  498. QuestionMark
    Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 14:33:24

    Even though someone taught me how to solve, I forgot everything -__-"
    and now I need to learn a whole new method from the beginnng, since I don't remember which method he taught me..
    I tried a few methods, but they seem all complicated >_>
    I suck T_T"

  499. Mister Ree
    Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 18:51:13

    My best time is 57 secs. Got lucky.
    I start with f2l and solve the rest by beginner's method. -.-

  500. Slash
    Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 14:03:44

    Use layer method and get like 50 sec average. Learning F2L currently. Its hard.

  501. Betakuwe
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 15:57:26

    any tips on lars method?
    i uses fridich method

    lol

    i saw a video on youtube a guy used lars method to solve the cube within 9sec
    i taught lars method was slow... ohmy.gif

  502. devilysin
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 03:43:58

    rubix cube is so hard it tskes me like 3 days to do it!

  503. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 03:51:32

    my fastest is 48 secs with LBL method...err what do you guys prefer for lubricating? I just put petroleum jelly in my cube and it's there for like 4 mos but it's still not broken...and I sprayed silicone in it and it's spins smooth now. Well idk I used Mr. Mckenic silicone spray and it's not a lubricant, but my dad said any silicone spray is a lubricant...well who cares

  504. jepthe0528
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 13:14:04

    QUOTE (Clyde Cazeñas @ Aug 15 2008, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    my fastest is 48 secs with LBL method...err what do you guys prefer for lubricating? I just put petroleum jelly in my cube and it's there for like 4 mos but it's still not broken...and I sprayed silicone in it and it's spins smooth now. Well idk I used Mr. Mckenic silicone spray and it's not a lubricant, but my dad said any silicone spray is a lubricant...well who cares


    im thinking of coming back again to rubiks after i found my patterns ~!~ ehehehehe nice go go go ~!~

  505. DeadMyth
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 15:17:15

    Used to do in 2mins about two years ago, but now my cube is gone (aka, someone broke it ¬¬) and i never bought another. If i were to try i'll probably take a day to solve lol

  506. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 15:58:18

    Fridrich, average of 40 something seconds.
    Personal best 33 seconds.

    Learning Petrus method. Looking to maybe getting a DIY soon.

  507. CrimsonV
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 22:52:35

    i can do 3x3x3 in a day (4-5 30 min bursts at a time) u should go to youtube and see the random variotions of the rubiks that exist including rubiks snake, the sphere, and the computer only 100x100x100 cube

  508. wyrlo
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 11:25:18

    I'm from Philippine Cubers Association my personal best is 25.86 seconds and my average of 12 solves is 38.xx.....im still slow solving the cube...but now im having fun with pen spinning..

    solving a Rubik's Cube is very nice...

  509. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 12:30:25

    QUOTE (wyrlo @ Aug 17 2008, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm from Philippine Cubers Association my personal best is 25.86 seconds and my average of 12 solves is 38.xx.....im still slow solving the cube...but now im having fun with pen spinning..

    solving a Rubik's Cube is very nice...

    teach me fridrich method pare tongue.gif add me on ym clyde_cazenas

  510. lansky0808
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 02:17:15

    wellp, I use the fridrich method(which is soooo easy ) and i also know these methods; cross, F2L, Normal, Petrus.



    i know its a lot, im fast at all of them and my avERAGE IS 40 secs, and wen im really mad or depends on wat im feeling i go





    for 20+ but if im battling someone i go for 15 secs tongue.gif













    my record is 14 seconds(BEAT THAT!!!!)

  511. wyrlo
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 07:04:36

    QUOTE (lansky0808 @ Aug 17 2008, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    wellp, I use the fridrich method(which is soooo easy ) and i also know these methods; cross, F2L, Normal, Petrus.

    i know its a lot, im fast at all of them and my avERAGE IS 40 secs, and wen im really mad or depends on wat im feeling i go

    for 20+ but if im battling someone i go for 15 secs tongue.gif

    my record is 14 seconds(BEAT THAT!!!!)


    i see....so fridrich is easy ha....oh! i mean soooo easy for you...bilis mo naman....15seconds? wow!...great for you dude! memo mo na ba lahat ng oll at pll? what is your f2l?

  512. HaRdCoRe-SpInneR-626
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 07:17:48

    yes i can solve it


    my avg time is about 30 seconds with the fridrich method


    the cube is a past time for me , pen spinning pretty much took over my cube solving hobby

  513. Chummy
    Date: Mon, Aug 25 2008 10:56:51

    me? I can't solve one to save my life... dry.gif

  514. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Aug 26 2008 02:32:25

    I finally bought some lubricant the other day and applied it to my cube.
    It's a smooth mo fugga now.
    Probably cut down around 5 seconds on a solid solve.

  515. Logic
    Date: Tue, Aug 26 2008 22:46:55

    My personal best: 12.56.
    My best average of 5: 16.78

    I stopped cubing about 5 months ago. It just got too repetitive and I wasn't really improving much so I lost interest.

    Also: Pen Spinning > Rubiks Cube

  516. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Aug 27 2008 00:15:08

    QUOTE (Logic @ Aug 26 2008, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    My personal best: 12.56.
    My best average of 5: 16.78

    I stopped cubing about 5 months ago. It just got too repetitive and I wasn't really improving much so I lost interest.

    Also: Pen Spinning > Rubiks Cube

    I guess it's all a matter of opinion. I'm more of a fan of cubing right now than pen spinning.

  517. Outlander
    Date: Wed, Aug 27 2008 00:31:12

    Does anyone here have a link to a 'method' or technique for solving the third (bottom) layer? I'm very new to cubing and can't get the last layer..

  518. TRoc
    Date: Wed, Aug 27 2008 01:36:33

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Aug 26 2008, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone here have a link to a 'method' or technique for solving the third (bottom) layer? I'm very new to cubing and can't get the last layer..

    Well that really depends on which way you hold the cube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnCh0bfaZ9U...feature=related I suggest this tutotial for the first layer by layer method. I didn't learn from him but I used to do this method when I was starting out and I really think it's the most efficient.

  519. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Aug 27 2008 02:36:46

    I use the 2 look OLL/PLL way to solve the last layer, but I'm working on memorizing most of the algorithms so I only need to 1 look it.

  520. Sfsr
    Date: Wed, Aug 27 2008 18:36:58

    Hey Turbulent, get a DIY. They're really not expensive at all (they're cheaper to order than buying regular cubes are here), and it'll be so much easier to solve it. Try to get an A DIY cube though, I think they pop way less than the B ones.

  521. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Aug 28 2008 01:20:19

    I wanna get a couple DIYs, particularly this hybrid I've been hearing about with the type-d cube and the type-a core. But the shipping cost alone is way more than a store bought cube. Maybe I can arrange to trade some people here for pens or something...
    Oh well, my store bought ones are pretty good right now ever since I lubricated them. If anything, I just need to get to Cubesmith and get some replacement stickers.

  522. wizwarezx
    Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 07:19:26

    yup..trust me, Type d with type a core is godly!! Losen the tension and lube it a bit and a godly cube u will have!! I have one actually....haha..

  523. renwickftw
    Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 08:17:32

    Yep I can do one, with the layer method. My average time is only around 1:30 tho. dry.gif

  524. Kari-Chan
    Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 06:19:04

    o.o??
    my average is 1:30 using F2l, OLL & PLL o.O

  525. Logic
    Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 10:30:16

    QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Sep 2 2008, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    o.o??
    my average is 1:30 using F2l, OLL & PLL o.O


    Either your cube is very hard to turn or you turn it very slow. Have you learnt finger tricks and tried lubing the cube?

  526. Huroni
    Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 12:40:46

    I be doin da keyhole an gettin 1:30 OLL PLL etc.

    I do LBL and now avg 1:05 wink.gif

  527. Outlander
    Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 13:16:23

    I just orders some new cubes on cubefans.com (same guy as cube4you). I'm getting a white 3x3x3 Type D, and cheap Diensheng white 3x3x3, and a white Eastsheen 2x2x2.

    I also ordered tiles from cubesmith for the type d and the 2x2x2 as well as an old 3x3x3 rubik's brand cube. I'm tired of having worn out stickers lol, its hard to tell orange from red and I hear that the cubesmith tile basically last forever biggrin.gif

  528. Logic
    Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 13:32:48

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Sep 2 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I also ordered tiles from cubesmith for the type d and the 2x2x2 as well as an old 3x3x3 rubik's brand cube. I'm tired of having worn out stickers lol, its hard to tell orange from red and I hear that the cubesmith tile basically last forever biggrin.gif

    The tiles really do last forever lol. The only problem with them is that the edges of the tiles can hurt your fingers a bit. But its definitely worth it. biggrin.gif

  529. wizwarezx
    Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 05:16:49

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Sep 2 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I just orders some new cubes on cubefans.com (same guy as cube4you). I'm getting a white 3x3x3 Type D, and cheap Diensheng white 3x3x3, and a white Eastsheen 2x2x2.

    I also ordered tiles from cubesmith for the type d and the 2x2x2 as well as an old 3x3x3 rubik's brand cube. I'm tired of having worn out stickers lol, its hard to tell orange from red and I hear that the cubesmith tile basically last forever biggrin.gif



    hey, u can try to get Lepao cubes they are good for OH cubing....

  530. Kari-Chan
    Date: Fri, Sep 5 2008 07:49:03

    QUOTE (Logic @ Sep 2 2008, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Either your cube is very hard to turn or you turn it very slow. Have you learnt finger tricks and tried lubing the cube?


    well... basically i'm just a horrible cuber who's more into other manipulations tongue.gif

  531. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Sep 6 2008 02:50:00

    Well, I'm just gonna order a set of stickers and tiles from Cubesmith for now. I'll maybe look into type d with a core later, I lubed up my 25 anniversary Rubik's brand cubes and they turn really well, they don't ever lock up and can cut some pretty nice corners too. I also rarely ever get any pops.

    I timed myself the other day with the jnetcube timer. Average of 12 cubes is at 37 seconds. PB is still 26 seconds, but that was an incredibly lucky solve in my opinion. After the cross, two of the edge/corner pairs were essentially done for me. I might've gotten a PLL skip on that one too... actually my time would've been a lot lower with a PLL skip...
    Anyways, still using Fridrich F2L, 2 look OLL/PLL but working on memorizing the algorithms so I only need to 1 look it.

  532. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 08:16:01

    My fastest right now is 1 minute and 3 seconds...


    I do it layer by layer ...




    I tried to learn the Fridrich method just about.. 1 month ago? - I gave up on it.




    Too frustrating.. dry.gif

  533. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 13:01:25

    You should keep working on it, once you get it down, your speeds will dramatically increase, as mine did.

    I ordered a bunch of Cubesmith tiles and stickers yesterday. Now I can stop worrying about wearing the crap out of my cubes' stickers.

  534. Outlander
    Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 14:51:28

    I got my cubes last week and played around with them over the weekend. The Type D isnt bad. I'm just more used to cubes that feel sturdy. When turning, it can feel as though it going to fall apart, but it hasnt popped on me once (note: it has a type D core, I didnt get a DIY type A to swap the cores with).

    The 2x2x2 Eastsheen is a dream. It is soo smooth and can to 2 turns with one 'flick' of the finger if you push a little harder than normal.

    The cheap as hell 3x3x3 Diensheng is actually my favorite cube right now tongue.gif Its pretty smooth, hasn't popped and feels sturdy.



    My roomates now learned how to solve the 2x2x2 and the 3x3x3 so another cube order has been placed biggrin.gif I'm getting a square-1 and another 3x3x3 Diensheng and they're both getting 2x2x2 Eastsheens and 3x3x3 type Ds.

  535. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 19:36:28

    I'm assuming you're getting them off cube4you, right? I'm kinda skeptical about ordering off there, considering all the stories I've heard about how unreliable the guy running it can be. Yes, I do realize that there is little else I can order from if I want DIYs, but I'd just like to know that if I place an order it'll get carried out 100%.

  536. Outlander
    Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 00:42:54

    If you'd feel better about using a distributor in the US chec out HuskyOmega on eBay (no 'type d or a' but they have Eastsheen cubes), and KingFlatLand on eBay (has some 'speed cube' of unknown type and other cube-like puzzles like megaminxs and square-1s)

    I ordered from CubeFans.com (same guy as Cube4You) and I paid for the faster shipping (it came in about a week, not bad for shipping to the US from China). The cubes are cheaper there, but the shipping is a bit expensive (still works out to be cheap cubes if you buy more than 2 lol).

    And the order that I made for my roomates and me was shipped on friday, I'll let you know how that goes. It should be here toward the end of this week or beginning of next week.



    And my CubeSmith tiles and stickers finally shipped today, it took about a week and a half after I made the order, but its not bad.

  537. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 01:02:44

    I'm just psyched waiting for my Cubesmith tiles and stickers to get here. My friend said to just go for the $15 no shipping thing, so I'm gonna have a bunch of randomly colours tiles and stickers. He told me to get the chrome set of stickers.... sleep(1).gif
    I'll probably end up ordering from Cube4You sometime later this semester, but I'm just hoping they get some old type-a cores in soon, cause I really want to try the type-d with type-a core hybrid. I don't want to have to order an entire old type-a just for the core...

  538. Outlander
    Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 01:04:15

    Well, if you do end up getting both, you can type d core in the type a lol. I'm not sure if it will work well though >.>

  539. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 03:57:22

    Well, I'd still like a type-a to play around with, cause I heard it's actually not a bad speedcube. I'd kinda like to try out the DianSheng cube, since I had read that it's pretty solid too.
    Well, it took all night, surprisingly, but I think I've finally got the G perm under control, well 2 out of the 4 variations anyway. Only 6 more PLLs to go through before I got em all. And I got a better Y perm than the one I've been using all along. This one flows a lot more smoothly.

  540. Fluke
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 05:39:33

    WOW!!! THERES A LOT OF CUBERS HERE!!!
    My PB avg. is 18.62secs which I was pleased with biggrin.gif and PB single of 12.31secs. I really like the D parts/A core! I use a black one for 2H and a white one for OH (It just got too loose for 2H sad.gif) I used either Fridrich or ZZ method but on fridrich need to finish learning OLL >.< 57 cases >.>....... I've learnt like 30 so far.....
    this is a really good speedsolving forum if you want to use it www.speedsolving.com I am *LukeMayn* on there biggrin.gif
    @ turbturtle: This is my Y-perm, I like it more than the double OLL one...
    z U2 R U R' U' R y R U r' F r U R' U'

    Don't forget, small case letters are double layer turns tongue.gif
    My only really letdown is a 5:06.xx PB for 5x5x5..... need to work on tredges

  541. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 11:46:27

    I ain't no noob.
    I have an account on that speedsolving website though, no surprises as to what my screen name on there is.

    The Y perm I'm using now is F R U' R' U' R d R U R' B' R U' R2. I was using that double OLL one for a while, but I kept having to pause to readjust my hands, so that sucked. I actually looked into that exact one you're using right now, I'm not a big fan of turning the cube by an axis though, but it does flow very well.

    Maybe I could just trade some of you guys pens for cubes or something laugh.gif

    Let me ask you though, what algorithm are you using for the U perms? I'm currently using the ones where there are just a series of U's and M's, but I recently looked into the one where it's just R's and U's, which seems like it might be faster.

  542. Fluke
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 19:28:04

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Sep 10 2008, 06:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I ain't no noob.
    I have an account on that speedsolving website though, no surprises as to what my screen name on there is.

    The Y perm I'm using now is F R U' R' U' R d R U R' B' R U' R2. I was using that double OLL one for a while, but I kept having to pause to readjust my hands, so that sucked. I actually looked into that exact one you're using right now, I'm not a big fan of turning the cube by an axis though, but it does flow very well.

    Maybe I could just trade some of you guys pens for cubes or something laugh.gif

    Let me ask you though, what algorithm are you using for the U perms? I'm currently using the ones where there are just a series of U's and M's, but I recently looked into the one where it's just R's and U's, which seems like it might be faster.

    I use the 2-gen ones (R,U) but I think the M U ones can be real fast. I saw some guy do one in 0.83 o.O

  543. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 20:01:11

    I can do the M U ones somewhat okay, but maybe I'll switch over to the R U ones for a bit and see how that tickles my fancy.

  544. VGamer
    Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 00:41:04

    i picked up cubing in the summer, but i stopped for some reason and forgot the algorithms. Now i can't solve it anymore bawling.gif

  545. Outlander
    Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 16:36:25

    So I got my Cubesmith tiles yesterday. And what an improvment! I got both smooth and textured and I like both of them. If you want to know what they feel like, its very close to a FiveStar notebook plastic front cover or a plastic binder seperator page. Very durable (I've used rubik's brand regular stickers and had them pealing in the matter of a week, but these really seem like they are going to hold up for a long long time.

    Definitely buy the plastic scraper from Cubesmith as well (its like 2$). It makes removing old stickers a great deal easier and doesnt damage your cube (like a metal blade might).


    My CubFans (same as Cube4You) order said it was shipped last week friday... but checking the tracking number on USPS's site now said it was only shipped yesterday... But its all good, because I paid for the faster shipping and it should be here sometime next week.

  546. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 19:05:21

    Yeah, I'm still deciding on which cube to put the tiles and stickers on. Both of them are store bought, but I like them A LOT. The first one is extremely broken in, turns really smoothly and is a bit looser than the second. I might stick the tiles on the looser one, sticker the second one.
    I did end up buying the scraper thing, just cause I needed stuff to go over $15 for the free shipping, but I had read and watched Youtube videos with people saying that a guitar pick works just as well.

    Did you have to clean off your cube after you took off the Rubik's stickers? I watched some videos, and the stickers seemed to peel off a little TOO cleanly, so I'm only guessing that those are the vinyl stickers or something?

  547. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 19:53:23

    I have a scraper but IMO guitar picks are better <.<... I really want tiles, I just have the good old CS stickers (10 sets, lol)

  548. Outlander
    Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 20:53:46

    Yeah, the rubik's brand sticker peal terribly. lots of residue can be left behind, but I came up with a method to reduce the left over.

    use your scraper/pick just to lift the corner, then grasp that with your fingers and pull it off slowly (just not super fast really). For me that only left a small amount of residue around the edge of where the sticker was (either glue seeping out or muck from using it for a long time. it was a 5 year old cube).

    Then to remove what was laft, I got some packaging tape (duct tape works just as well) and peeled the rest of the glue remaining off.

    Next I wiped the sides with my t-shirt to make sure nothing was left and put the stickers/tiles on.


    For applying the tiles (as well as stickers) I peeled the backing off (carefully not to touch the bottom) then stuck the edge of the tileon the tip of an exacto knife. This way the glue stays perfect and its easier to line them up well (skew tiles look really bad IMO).



    P.S. - I checked my tracking number from my CubeFans.com order (placed last week friday) and it was only shipped yesterday despite getting an email on friday saying it was shipped lol. My second Diansheng and my DIY Square-1 should be here towards the end of next week >.>

  549. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 22:00:30

    I saw a video on Youtube with some dude wiping his cube down with WD 40 to get rif of the residue. He just stuck a bit on a Q-tip, dabbed it onto the cubie and wiped it down.

    Okay so I got the order confirmation email today from Cubesmith for my stuff. Any idea how long it takes to send to Canada? It says roughly 2 weeks for international orders, but I'm assuming that's keeping overseas shipping in mind. I'm hoping to get them by next week. The peeling stickers on both my cubes are pissing me off.
    And I'm also bugging my roomate to use his Paypal to get stuff off C4Y for me. The two type-A DIY package, which I think uses the old type-A core unless I'm mistaken? I saw that they have the old type-A cores for sale too, but it doesn't say whether they're sold out or not, can someone confirm for me? And I'm gonna be getting a white type-D DIY if possible. We'll see how that goes ig it happens.

  550. wizwarezx
    Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 07:05:48

    Hey, does anyone know the best way to break-in a cube??

  551. Logic
    Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 11:33:41

    http://www.eightyeightynine.com/games/rubi...e-cheating.html

    Just solve it though. its more fun.

  552. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 12:57:42

    QUOTE (wizwarezx @ Sep 13 2008, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hey, does anyone know the best way to break-in a cube??

    Solve it over and over again. Maybe a couple hundred solves, it should get a bit smoother. What you can also do is take the cube apart, sand down the imperfections, clean the cubies and put the thing back together.
    There's also a video on Youtube made by Pestvic that has an actually pretty decent way of breaking your cube in.

  553. Outlander
    Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 15:08:28

    @Turb

    I'm not sure about the type A package, but I think you are correct about them having the old cores.

    And the Cubesmith package should get to you next week sometime. It only took 2 days for me (I live in the US, so its faster than into Canada, but I would think it shoulding take more than a week).



    I've grown to really dislike my type D. It has the original type D core, lubed well, and screws all the way tight, but it just feels like its gonna pop from simply turning a face of the cube (and worse when cutting corners).

    I was planning on putting tiles on it, but I put smooth times on my Eastsheen 2x2x2, Rubik's 3x3x3 and textured tiles on another Rubik's 3x3x3 instead, and will probably give/sell the type D to one of roomates who is constantly taking my cubes from my desk and getting them dirty...

    I'm much happier with the Diansheng 3x3x3 cube (lol, it was the cheapest one that I got tongue.gif). I'm getting a second one and putting tiles on that (I have C4Y stickers on the one I have now). And I got a bunch of vinyl sheets of Cubesmith stickers coming that I'll trim to get on my square-1 (should be here early next week).

  554. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 15:36:34

    Well the package is essentially two of the Type-A cubes, right?
    I'm looking at these ones, and if they do have the old cores, then I probably won't need to get a spare core. Unless I feel like just having a type-A to play around with, which wouldn't be a bad thing =)

    There was a little problem with the shipping address for my place, since I just moved in 2 weeks ago, so I'm still not too sure about how the mail works here. I e-mailed the Cubesmith guy on the Friday that he was going to ship, and he responded back pretty much immediately and made the appropriate changes. I had heard that the Cubesmith guy was extremely reliable, but that was something else. I think I'm definitely going to be giving him tons of business when possible.

  555. Outlander
    Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 17:17:40

    It seems like that 'package' on the page you linked is for one white and one black type A cube. (I'm not sure about the core though)

  556. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 23:13:53

    Well the cube on that page should have the old type-A core, right? So I'm just guessing that you're getting two of those cubes for the package.
    If I do end up getting that stuff off C4Y, I'll probably end up buying and extra old A core just in case.

  557. Outlander
    Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 23:34:08

    I'm not getting any type a cubes as of now. I;m quite happy with my 2 rubik's cubes, 2 diansheng cubes, and waiting for my square one.

    I just finished tiling a new rubik's brand store bought cube and its actually really nice. With this one I'm making a point of breaking it in for a while before doing anything else with it.

  558. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 00:28:25

    I might look into the DianSheng cubes as well, they're friggen ~$5 for one, so I might as well.
    I was reading though, that the ones not in the package, with the stickers are better than the painted ones though.

  559. Outlander
    Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 13:54:58

    Monday or Tuesday I should be getting my package with 2 stickered Dianshengs. I have a painted one (that I put the free replacement stickers on) because it wasn't colored the normal way.

    So I'll definitely tell you what I think of each of them when I get a chance. CS Tiles will be going on the better one lol.

  560. yani
    Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 21:49:33

    for all the people here using the fridich method; how long did it take you guys to get a sub 30 solve on average?

    Because I want to get better at cubing happy.gif

  561. komas
    Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 22:59:48

    QUOTE
    for all the people here using the fridich method; how long did it take you guys to get a sub 30 solve on average?

    Because I want to get better at cubing happy.gif

    I got it in about 3 months, but that was because i was in 8th grade, and had spent like more than an hour a day. I don't get to do it much now though.

  562. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 01:28:39

    I've been cubing seriously for about a month now, and I'm just flirting with the 30 average.

  563. wizwarezx
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 02:53:58

    O.o thats okay already..hahas...jus memorise full olll and pll can already..hahas...

  564. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 04:22:13

    I'm working on PLL right now, I have 6 more to go. OLL... I'll wait a bit more for that, but I have a good portion of them down.

  565. TRoc
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 04:50:43

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Sep 15 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm working on PLL right now, I have 6 more to go. OLL... I'll wait a bit more for that, but I have a good portion of them down.

    Ahh, I can't convince myself to start memorizing them but I wan't to. How did you learn them, did you just do them over and over again?

  566. yani
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 12:51:47

    thanks for replying!

    you guys are so motivated, I just can't find the time to sit down with my cube and a sheet of algorithms, pathetic really xD

    so which site did/do you guys use for the algs? I'm currently looking at Dans Cube Station site, but are there better alternatives?

  567. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 12:52:02

    It works a lot easier once you get a good basis of simple algorithms because a bunch of the more "complex" PLLs are actually pretty repetitive using smaller algorithms. For example, you're going to be seeing R U R' U' a lot, or a variation of that.

    yani: I use a thread from the speedsolving site.
    Here.

  568. Outlander
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 19:54:32

    I got my order in from CubeFans.com today. The Diansheng that comes out of the box is really similar to the one that comes in the box. I can't really tell a difference.

    I took a pic of all my cubes at the moment, excapet I've since given the type d to my roomate because he keep taking other ones (nicer ones tongue.gif) from my desk when I'm not around.

  569. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 20:05:26

    I've always wondered, and since I don't have any to compare to. How would you tell the difference between the types of cubes, say between types A and D?

  570. Outlander
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 22:10:25

    The 'type' refers to different manufacturers of the core and cubies I believe.





    And on a seperate note, found that the Diansheng cube that comes in the box (painted colors) is much nicer than the other version. Its very fast with the screws almost all the way tight and this is without lube.

  571. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 22:12:54

    Yeah I know what the type refers to, I just want to know how you tell the difference. Like if I just brought you two cubes, would you be able to tell me the difference if they were types A and D?

  572. Outlander
    Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 23:52:46

    Type A has a yellow core and Type D has a black core as far as I know.

  573. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 02:54:05

    Other than that, is there a noticeable physical difference to easily tell them apart?

  574. Outlander
    Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 03:18:05

    Nope. As far as I know the only noticable difference is in the core color and feel (hard vs. rubbery).

  575. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 05:32:12

    o.0 I can tell the differance

  576. Logic
    Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 10:53:08

    QUOTE (yani @ Sep 14 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    for all the people here using the fridich method; how long did it take you guys to get a sub 30 solve on average?

    Because I want to get better at cubing happy.gif


    A few months. Start with learning F2L. You times will get worse at the beginning but then they will improve when you learn more and more. I was at ~45 seconds doing LBL and it took me a couple months to get down to 28-30ish. Then I learnt OLL and PLL and my times when to like 20-23ish and then I worked on turning the cube faster and got down to 15-18ish.

  577. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 20:22:41

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Sep 15 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    o.0 I can tell the differance

    Care to enlighten us? tongue.gif

  578. Rawn
    Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 10:52:27

    Yes you can probably tell which cube is what by seeing how it turns. I have both a Type A and D and there's a noticeable difference.

  579. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 11:54:41

    So you can only tell when it turns? Like if I just showed you two cubes, you wouldn't be able to tell me which one is A and which one is D?

  580. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Sep 19 2008 23:32:47

    Yay, my Cubesmith order came today! I restickered my first cube, and I think I'll tile my other one tomorrow. Or probably tonight.

  581. hoiboy909
    Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 22:06:21

    i average about 30 seconds... with the friedrech method...
    and then i quit so now i forgot everything... =(

  582. j147l
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 01:14:48

    For the 3x3, I averaged 50 seconds with F2L, but know I'm out of practice.

    Once, when I solved the 2x2, I got a really easy pattern and I solved it in 3 seconds(yes, I was extremely lucky.)

    And for the 4x4, well, you don't want to know my time. I'm really slow at it.

  583. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 20:01:33

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Sep 17 2008, 06:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So you can only tell when it turns? Like if I just showed you two cubes, you wouldn't be able to tell me which one is A and which one is D?

    No I'd probably be able to see also because of size (some a millimetre smaller than other) the corners of the corners >.> and how tighly packed together the cubies are. I wouldn't be able to tell the core though >.<)
    All types of cubes have a unique feeling like my type D with A core is LIGHTENING fast but it locks up occasionally where as my A's bearly ever lock up but aren't as fast. also how the cubies rub up agaist each other..... I don't really know but is you got two diferant types you would be able to see smile.gif

  584. BeckWreck
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 20:19:05

    I enjoy the F2L method, I've used it to do an underwater solve once.

  585. j147l
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 23:47:34

    QUOTE (BeckWreck @ Sep 22 2008, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I enjoy the F2L method, I've used it to do an underwater solve once.


    Wouldn't solving it underwater mess up the cube's inner mechanism?

  586. FurBelz~
    Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 01:41:18

    lots of pro tries to solve it underwater, its just a plastic cube.. what is there to be messed up?
    (well unless u using some electronical rubiks cube...)

  587. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 02:47:48

    My Rubik's cubes have goldfish in them, so I can only solve them underwater.

  588. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 06:40:21

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Sep 22 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    My Rubik's cubes have goldfish in them, so I can only solve them underwater.

    Woah... Me too o.0

    I hate it when people say "OMG! Can you do those things" and when theyr'e mixing it they go "hay don't look and turn around"

  589. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 19:15:32

    I usually offer it to them to mix it up for me, cause I hate doing it now. Usually that's good enough for them, but if they do tell me to look away, I tell them that technically I'm allowed up to 15 seconds before I start solving to inspect the cube.

  590. Kari-Chan
    Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 04:08:11

    what lube was bad for the cube?

    i only managed to get through 3 pages after giving up on the slow internet =.=""

  591. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 11:15:29

    WD-40 is horrible. Don't use petroleum or oil based lubricants, like vaseline, or vegetable oil and stuff.
    CRC silicone is the most widely used and is considered the best.

    I use Jig-A-Loo, which I find works amazingly so I'm gonna stick with that.

  592. Herro
    Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 17:41:11

    Hi all. I'm new to pen spinning, started maybe a month ago? Only know like thumbaround, fingerpass, sonic, charge, infinity, and backaround. I could've learned a lot more, but you know... procrastination... Haha. Well I was browsing the forums and found this thread. Ehheh. Something I'm good at! Wheeee. I've gotten 1 sub-15 average but am probably down to like 18 because I haven't practiced in months. I use MGLS, a spreading method (rather, a variation of a method). Shotaro Makisumi had the idea, Lucas Garron developed many of the algorithms. More info at http://cube.garron.us/MGLS/ best if you know Fridrich or something else that fits with it. I've found Fridrich to work best with it :-)

  593. McDade
    Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 18:31:09

    I can solve it in like 3 minutes, I use the method that comes with the cube, lol.

  594. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 21:54:16

    QUOTE (Herro @ Sep 27 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hi all. I'm new to pen spinning, started maybe a month ago? Only know like thumbaround, fingerpass, sonic, charge, infinity, and backaround. I could've learned a lot more, but you know... procrastination... Haha. Well I was browsing the forums and found this thread. Ehheh. Something I'm good at! Wheeee. I've gotten 1 sub-15 average but am probably down to like 18 because I haven't practiced in months. I use MGLS, a spreading method (rather, a variation of a method). Shotaro Makisumi had the idea, Lucas Garron developed many of the algorithms. More info at http://cube.garron.us/MGLS/ best if you know Fridrich or something else that fits with it. I've found Fridrich to work best with it :-)

    what works even better with MGLS is petrus because you allready have all the edges oriented by that step so you can do something easy like R U R'. to put the last edge in the do the last corner and the LL corners the usual way in one alg.

  595. j147l
    Date: Sun, Sep 28 2008 01:27:24

    QUOTE (FurBelz~ @ Sep 22 2008, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    lots of pro tries to solve it underwater, its just a plastic cube.. what is there to be messed up?
    (well unless u using some electronical rubiks cube...)


    The mechanism will have issues, and also, any lubricant on it will dissolve(not sure if its the right word but yes, the lubricant will come off).

  596. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 04:16:39

    I think I'm gonna start taking up some OH cubing.
    I steered away from it before because my hands aren't actually too big, but I just practiced a bunch of F2Ls and a couple full solves, and it was actually pretty fun.

    The problem is going to be looking for OLLs and PLLs that are good with the left hand, but then again most of mine are Rs and Us, so it should be okay.

  597. TRoc
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 04:24:32

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Sep 29 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I think I'm gonna start taking up some OH cubing.
    I steered away from it before because my hands aren't actually too big, but I just practiced a bunch of F2Ls and a couple full solves, and it was actually pretty fun.

    The problem is going to be looking for OLLs and PLLs that are good with the left hand, but then again most of mine are Rs and Us, so it should be okay.

    You're left handed huh. I know Nakaji has some videos of PLLs that I think he uses, and he uses his left hand.
    http://de.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&a...uber&page=2

  598. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 12:29:15

    Awesome, thanks for the links.

  599. Kari-Chan
    Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 14:29:03

    can someone please post links for F2L, OLL & PLL (and hopefully other links) Algorithims? (the one that you use:P)

    The ones i search aren't very good

  600. TRoc
    Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 16:29:22

    You should watch Badmephisto.
    http://de.youtube.com/user/badmephisto?ob=1
    He also has his own website where he gathered all of the algorithms that he thinks are best.
    http://badmephisto.dyndns.org/site/

  601. Kari-Chan
    Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 06:23:51

    alrite^^ it looks like a very decent site^^ ty^^

  602. Rarka
    Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 15:24:46

    Yeah, one week ago my friend has teached me how to solve Rubik's Cube, after one day I managed to do it without his help in about 6 minutes. Now I can solve it in 2,5 - 3 minutes. I don't know name of the method, it's probably one of the easiest. My best time - 1:50, with a lot of luck wink.gif

  603. Kari-Chan
    Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 05:30:21

    i'm thinking of convincing my parents to get me a speed cube. what do you guys recommend me to get? i see lots of type As and Ds etc but i'm probably only going to get 1 wacko.gif

  604. Krs-Two
    Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 18:22:35

    I Learned How To Last Year :^). Best Time Is 1:08. Basic Method, I Never Took The Time To Learn Roux.

  605. Outlander
    Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 14:59:45

    QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Oct 3 2008, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i'm thinking of convincing my parents to get me a speed cube. what do you guys recommend me to get? i see lots of type As and Ds etc but i'm probably only going to get 1 wacko.gif


    If you can only get one cube I would actually get a Diansheng cube. They are white and can be purchased at Cube4You.com or CubeFans.com

    They're very inexpensive (like 5$ or 6$) and work very well (even without any lube).


    Otherwise, people say that type Ds with a type A core is the 'best', but I've never tried that.

  606. Herro
    Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 19:45:23

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Sep 27 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    what works even better with MGLS is petrus because you allready have all the edges oriented by that step so you can do something easy like R U R'. to put the last edge in the do the last corner and the LL corners the usual way in one alg.


    Actually, yes, it would work great with Petrus. Sadly, I suck at blockbuilding. So I guess the method really is catching on? :-)

    QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Oct 2 2008, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i'm thinking of convincing my parents to get me a speed cube. what do you guys recommend me to get? i see lots of type As and Ds etc but i'm probably only going to get 1 wacko.gif


    Just get a type A if you can only get one, but maybe you should also try to get the ones that 'don't pop' (type D?). I heard those are pretty good. I also heard that they suck. But yeah, you should probably just go with type A.

  607. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Oct 8 2008 01:31:26

    There's been no discussion about me getting some speedcubes from C4Y for a while. My roomate is looking to get some too, so hopefully we can get our other roomate to hook us up cause he has Paypal.

    In other news, my average is hovering at 30 seconds. I can get sub-30 maybe 1/3 or 1/4 of the time.

  608. wizwarezx
    Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 03:15:40

    erm...i would get a type A if i were you...hahas.
    or, u can try rubiks diy. its smooth but the centre cap keeps falling off. jus glue it...it should be okay. hahas

  609. Kari-Chan
    Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 05:15:11

    is it just me or has singlish developed to 'hahas'? o.O

    i'll prolly get the diansheng cube since it's cheap o.o

  610. FrozenIce
    Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 05:17:12

    I use a DIY cube too...The Cube 4 You cubes are fine, except the stickers suck...But you can use Cubesmith stickers instead.

  611. daffy
    Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 13:35:34

    Ya i can solve a rubix. my record is 1:00

  612. MrThomasBeckwith
    Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 14:05:44

    i can only do slightly under 1 min with the super stiff cube of mine.

    @ wizwarezx any where in singapore sells cubes for speed cubing?

  613. wizwarezx
    Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 14:35:00

    Thomas@ alot of places man hahas. You can get diansheng at some night market at $4!!!

    Rubik's Brand storebought:
    Comic's Connection, Toys 'R' Us, OG -Price: $11 ~ $14

    Rubik's Japanese Speedcubing kit:
    Toys 'R' Us - Price: $30

    Type A:
    Bloomington, Dollz Inc -Price: $15 ~ 20

    Type B:
    ?

    Type C:
    Bloomington -Price: $15 ~ 20

    Type D:
    Most major bookstores -Price: $4 ~ $10

    Type E:
    Comics Connection(nt sure), Popular @ Lot 1, Science center, Heartland Mall -Price: $4.50 ~ $8

    Type F:
    ?


    Rubik's Magic:
    Toys 'R' Us -Price: $18
    Bloomington - Price: $??

    Rubiks.com DIY
    Bloomington - Price: $15

    EastSheen 2x2:
    Action City -Price: $11.95

    EashSheen 4x4:
    Action City -Price: $24.95

    EastSheen 5x5:
    Action City -Price: $34.95

    Megaminx:
    Childrens World @ IMM -Price: < $20

    Pyraminx:
    Childrens World, science center -Price: < $20



    *Bloomington is located at Anchorpoint (Alexandra Road).

  614. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 19:29:22

    Today marks the day that I finally memorized all 21 PLLs.
    It shouldn't have taken this long, and there was a massive break for a couple weeks where I didn't even try learning any new PLLs.
    Oh well, it's all over with.

    Now onto OLLs!

  615. MrThomasBeckwith
    Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 22:09:57

    wow xD thanks alot wizwarezx! i definitely going to get a couple of them now xD

  616. Zaiks
    Date: Fri, Oct 10 2008 18:30:54

    I had like 50-55 sec average with layerbylayer method before i started spinning and now i found my rubik's cube haha;D


    http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=lfPb9PrtXrk

    I changed music tongue.gif

    47 sec:D

    Its pure lbl with ''top'' on the left tongue.gif


    Youtube destroyed quality:(

  617. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Oct 10 2008 19:42:35

    Woah, that's some pretty nice turning there. Looks a hell of a lot faster than my weak fingertricks.
    Get into another method like Fridrich or Petrus, and I think you'll be pretty solid.

  618. Zaiks
    Date: Sat, Oct 11 2008 11:00:10

    I would know fridrich ,but i found pen spinning haha . I was able to do something about 40 sec here . But it was my 3rd solve after 5-6 months and my brain doesn't work pretty fast yet . I have to practice it tongue.gif .
    My friend told me that if i learn fridrich i would have something about 20 sec's as ''start'' with this method O.o

  619. Kari-Chan
    Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 02:11:31

    hmm... i have no idea on how to start memorizing the PLL algorithims >.< help~~ =3

  620. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 02:53:42

    QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Oct 11 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmm... i have no idea on how to start memorizing the PLL algorithims >.< help~~ =3

    Ah yeah, getting started sucks for memorizing PLLs and stuff.
    I'd say knock down the more difficult to recognize ones first. As in the ones that don't really have any apparent visual triggers, so go for the 4 G perms.
    What I did was write all the PLLs down on a piece of paper and just bring it with me whenever I know I'd have free time.

    Just start off by doing the first couple turns on the cube and try to memorize that. Then keep tacking on more and more moves while still going back to see if you can repeat the sequence. After that, just brute force it into your mind by repeating it over and over again, and trying to recognize any good visual keys that could help you recognize the permutations as quickly as possible.

    I just recorded my personal best. Lucky solve, PLL skip, but I don't care.
    20.05! Yay!
    But I still count my non lucky 23.70 solve as my real personal best.

  621. wizwarezx
    Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 04:34:09

    What I did was write all the PLLs down on a piece of paper and just bring it with me whenever I know I'd have free time.

    [/quote]

    I memorised my LLs algo that way too!!

  622. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 05:19:49

    A friend of mine bought me a Rubik's Revenge (4x4x4) for my birthday ... but I'm wondering can anyone here solve it? And how long does it take for you to complete it? laugh.gif

  623. FrozenIce
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 06:08:37

    Where are you stuck? At the very beginning? Let me know so I can help you...

  624. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 06:38:14

    Yeah riiight at the beginning

    All I know.. is that I'm supposed to complete 4 little squares of one face then 4 on the opposite face.



    The problem is, the cube that she bought for me is not the official one. They're not colours, they're pictures ...

    And I can't remember which face is opposite which face. =(





    So I dunno if it's 'solveable' anymore... XD

  625. FrozenIce
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 07:19:13

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 12 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yeah riiight at the beginning

    All I know.. is that I'm supposed to complete 4 little squares of one face then 4 on the opposite face.



    The problem is, the cube that she bought for me is not the official one. They're not colours, they're pictures ...

    And I can't remember which face is opposite which face. =(





    So I dunno if it's 'solveable' anymore... XD


    Ooh...Solving it will be tough...But if you can take a picture of every EDGE piece, it might be possible to figure out the original color scheme.


  626. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 08:35:35

    QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Oct 13 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ooh...Solving it will be tough...But if you can take a picture of every EDGE piece, it might be possible to figure out the original color scheme.




    So what do you suggest me do? XD


    Take a picture of every piece? Or every little cube's face? XD


    EDIT: I just looked for something that might help me ... and I found this site
    http://www.wrongway.org/mcube/solve.html
    It's one of those little things that .. where you put in the colours and they tell you how to solve it ... it's just that.. I dunno how to put in the little colours 'cos I don't know how the thing on the site is orientated to the cube I have in front of me ...


    Know what I mean ? XD

  627. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 16:35:53

    I knew I could've improved on my lucky solve time if I didn't make an idiotic U3 instead of the U' at the end to fix the top layer sleep(1).gif
    But I did just that and BAM!
    19.73, my first sub-20 solve.

    I never actually thought about how much I was improving until just now. My first post in this thread on August 16th, which was essentially when I started speedcubing seriously:

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Aug 16 2008, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Fridrich, average of 40 something seconds.
    Personal best 33 seconds.

    Learning Petrus method. Looking to maybe getting a DIY soon.


    Now, pretty much 2 months and a bit later and my average recorded the other day was 26.06 seconds. That doesn't really bode well for me, as it basically means that my PLLs or OLLs are ~6 seconds... sleep(1).gif
    But seriously, I was on the speedsolving forums and was envious of the people who had solving times in the 20s. I guess practicing and solving the cube over and over again really does help.

  628. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 18:48:00

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Oct 13 2008, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I knew I could've improved on my lucky solve time if I didn't make an idiotic U3 instead of the U' at the end to fix the top layer sleep(1).gif
    But I did just that and BAM!
    19.73, my first sub-20 solve.

    I never actually thought about how much I was improving until just now. My first post in this thread on August 16th, which was essentially when I started speedcubing seriously:


    Now, pretty much 2 months and a bit later and my average recorded the other day was 26.06 seconds. That doesn't really bode well for me, as it basically means that my PLLs or OLLs are ~6 seconds... sleep(1).gif
    But seriously, I was on the speedsolving forums and was envious of the people who had solving times in the 20s. I guess practicing and solving the cube over and over again really does help.

    are you using frid or petrus w/ OLL/PLL? lol 6sec PLL's o.O meh thinks you need some new ones o.O
    yay sub 20 solve smile.gif, yesterday I was sooo close to a sub 20 avg. It was something like 20.14 >.> I was dissapointed. My usual avg is still at 22 but my PB avg (12) is something in the 19sec range biggrin.gif

  629. yani
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 19:12:25

    Aww, congratulations man! happyy.gif

    No progress for me ._.

  630. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 19:27:41

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Oct 13 2008, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    are you using frid or petrus w/ OLL/PLL? lol 6sec PLL's o.O meh thinks you need some new ones o.O
    yay sub 20 solve smile.gif, yesterday I was sooo close to a sub 20 avg. It was something like 20.14 >.> I was dissapointed. My usual avg is still at 22 but my PB avg (12) is something in the 19sec range biggrin.gif

    I'm still tanking it with Fridrich, and I'm not sure if I'm ever going to make the permanent switch over to Petrus, even though I can see how it would be advantageous to do so in the long run. I might practice the Petrus method a lot more and learn the intricacies of it later when I feel that I have perfected the Fridrich method to the best of my capabilities.
    I'm not sure about the 6 second PLLs, as I've timed myself doing them before, and they're not actually that long. It just looks like it with my times tongue.gif I usually have about, a 3 or 4 second execution time on my PLLs and that's with a little stumble along the way. Usually it might take me a little longer when I tend to rush the end (which happens more than I'd like ^^) and I overshoot a turn or something. I think the OLLS are what are really slowing me down though, if I get a case where there's just the one dot at the top. Not worrying too much about it though, as I'm gonna start learning the more common OLL cases I run into soon. Hopefully that'll help my OLL times.

  631. Zaiks
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 20:23:34

    Look at him . And ppl say that penspinners are nolifers haha



    http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=lvFVFnX-Cbk

    http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=7kbJzknH7Lo&feature=user
    ownage ohmy.gif

  632. TRoc
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 20:30:24

    How about this guy tongue.gif :
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=095AVQMEcng


    http://youtube.com/watch?v=jI_zjWssn2g

  633. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 21:04:57

    Hahaha, poor Yu Nakajima. Too bad it wasn't at a comp or he would've beaten Erik's 7.08 at the 2008 Czech open.

  634. FrozenIce
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 23:07:08

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 13 2008, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So what do you suggest me do? XD


    Take a picture of every piece? Or every little cube's face? XD


    EDIT: I just looked for something that might help me ... and I found this site
    http://www.wrongway.org/mcube/solve.html
    It's one of those little things that .. where you put in the colours and they tell you how to solve it ... it's just that.. I dunno how to put in the little colours 'cos I don't know how the thing on the site is orientated to the cube I have in front of me ...


    Know what I mean ? XD


    Okay, what I suggest you do is assign each different picture on your cube a different color(use white, yellow, red, orange, green, and blue.)

    Then, custom configure your cube on that website and then it should tell you how to solve it.

  635. xz64
    Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 04:31:42

    You'll get so bored if you use that solver program. I tried it a few times, and it took way too many moves that I messed up the first few times.

    I used Chris Hardwick's solution page

    http://speedcubing.com/chris/4-solution.html

    I think his solution is very simple and easy.

    edit: as for the stickers, i guess you could either buy new ones or just find out what picture belongs to each face. The problem with the picture cubes is that the stickers will have to be rotated correctly so it is even harder than a normal 4x4x4 cube.

  636. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 06:06:04

    Um... the only reason I was going to use that solver was to find out which face was opposite which face when I solve it .. XD



    But anyway... I've figured out which side is opposite which .. =)

    I looked at the corners and drew up a picture of a cube and figured it out. =]





    And now I'm going to look around ... to find tutorials.



    Anyway, how long does it take around to solve a 4x4x4 cube?


    QUOTE
    I used Chris Hardwick's solution page

    http://speedcubing.com/chris/4-solution.html

    I think his solution is very simple and easy.




    Thanks for the site. I'll check it out now. =]

  637. Outlander
    Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 15:38:24

    Rubik's Revenge Topic merged with Rubik's Cube thread.

  638. sangara
    Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 23:00:23

    Do you guys know where I can find one of those cubes where it's like a white plastic base instead of black? And what would a good method be for someone who could solve the cube efficiently with the layers method? I want to learn some more advanced stuff.

  639. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 23:03:04

    QUOTE (sangara @ Oct 16 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Do you guys know where I can find one of those cubes where it's like a white plastic base instead of black? And what would a good method be for someone who could solve the cube efficiently with the layers method? I want to learn some more advanced stuff.

    You're gonna need to buy those either online, or hope they sell them somewhere close to where you live. I've been wanting to get a DIY for a while, but my roomate doesn't want to use his Paypal for it, cause he's an idiot.
    Google up the Fridrich method. Watch badmephisto's videos on Youtube. Or you could learn Petrus.

  640. Awesome
    Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 23:40:14

    I found my cube the other day, I am averaging 1:20 sad.gif

    My F2L is so slow now and I forgot so many algorithms, I wish I kept up with it more then I was.

  641. sangara
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 01:00:27

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Oct 16 2008, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You're gonna need to buy those either online, or hope they sell them somewhere close to where you live. I've been wanting to get a DIY for a while, but my roomate doesn't want to use his Paypal for it, cause he's an idiot.
    Google up the Fridrich method. Watch badmephisto's videos on Youtube. Or you could learn Petrus.


    What kind of place would sell them?

  642. Floating Duck
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 03:02:16

    QUOTE (sangara @ Oct 16 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What kind of place would sell them?

    http://www.cube4you.com/

    http://www.cubefans.com/

    There are more but im too lazy to look.

  643. sangara
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 16:35:36

    Oh wow thanks a lot, ohmy.gif I really want that green one... Ok thanks for showing me, but when you buy that does it come with the stickers?

    EDIT: Nvm it says it right there, I should read more.

  644. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 18:29:55

    If you're gonna buy stickers and tiles, go with Cubesmith.
    I think I'm gonna get some more soon, just regular stickers and maybe tiles. I spent too much last time on dumb stickers that I'm probably never gonna use but look friggen cool. Chrome stickers... *drool*

  645. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 22:06:27

    I just got a cube and just started to get into it. I dont kno any other method than the one in the book. I would love to learn the fridrech or w/e method, but i looked it up and was like O_o when I saw it. I suck my fastest solve was like 1 min 34 secs or something. WANNA GET FASTER!!!

  646. TRoc
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 22:10:59

    O man the method in the booklet thingy is so stupid. If it's the same one that was in my friend's then it's very different from Fridrich.

  647. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 22:18:06

    The one i know is u have to get a cross and solve the first layer then the second and finish off with the third. It takes me an average of like 2 minutes. Wheres an easy place i can go to learn the fredrich method?

  648. TRoc
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 22:31:18

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM I always reccomend this guy because he's a great teacher. But I don't think you should just rush into F2L if you just started. I did and was confused as hell.

  649. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 22:42:32

    Ok where should i go from here then?

  650. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 00:27:55

    Yeah, watch both of badmephisto's videos for intuitive F2L. Then, practice the hell out of those for a couple weeks until it's essentially second nature to match an edge/corner pair and put it in the correct slot. Then I think he has the 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL video up too, take a gander at that.
    Everything I know, I essentially learned from watching his videos and just solving the crap out of my cubes over and over again for a month.

  651. Huroni
    Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 11:50:13

    Eh...I'm losing interest...fast...only because my cube sucks and i cant get passed 57 seconds...and I cant think too fast so f2l is kinda hard for me. What can I do to reboost my interest? I was thinking about buying a new cube, but I dont have paypal..

  652. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 18:35:33

    omg so F2l is like nuts. I always get some weird instance that i end up going back to the way i already know!

  653. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 19:26:48

    Fridrich is all about practicing so you can practice each individual case until it burns itself into your brain.
    After having learned the long way for each case I came across, I started thinking up of shortcuts and just easier ways to recognize and execute each situation.

    Trust me guys, it's all about practicing the shit out of F2L until you can just glance at a situation and be able to properly insert it into the correct place.

  654. NitriX
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 00:46:54

    i can do a 2x2 in 8 sec a 3x3 in about 50 sec and a 4x4 in like 4 min

  655. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 06:11:36

    my fastest is 46.25...using beginner's method (LBL) and my average is 50 secs...but I slowed down to 1 min + because the stickers of my old cube got so old so I just peeled 'em off then bought a new hard one, lubed it, but it's still hard even if I used silicone lol...that's why I'm slow again T_T

  656. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 07:39:54

    Daily avg. (I'll post these once in a while (more into cubing then PS again >.<... It just feels better. I only practise PS at school now >.> OMG look how off-track I got >.>))

    anyway...
    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Thu Oct 23 20:34:23 NZDT 2008 -----

    Average: 21.99

    Fastest Time: 18.52
    Slowest Time: 27.38
    Standard Deviation: 02.04

    Individual Times:
    1) 19.88 D U2 F2 D2 U2 B R' U D2 L' D B L F D R' D R2 F2 L' U B2 R' B D'
    2) 23.50 B' R L2 F' U R F L U B2 R' D U B' U' F L B' R L2 F' D2 U2 L2 R'
    3) 19.83 D' B2 U2 L2 D2 B2 R B L R2 D2 U2 F2 R' L2 U L R D' B L' D2 R B2 R2
    4) 25.28 F L U R' B' L2 B2 F2 R D' R' F2 D2 U' R U F2 R' B2 D F2 L B2 F' D2
    5) (18.52) L' R F B' R' F B2 R2 D' F B U' F' R' B F2 U2 L D2 F2 L B L R' B
    6) 23.70 F' U' B' U B D' L' R' F B2 R D' F' L F L' U' D2 F D' L' B' F R2 L
    7) 20.28 F D2 U2 L2 F2 R2 U B2 F' L U2 F' D2 U R L2 B F2 D' L' B' R' B2 U F2
    8) (27.38) L2 D2 L U2 B2 L' U' D' B' F L2 B U R' D R2 B L2 B' L R2 U' R B2 D2
    9) 19.95 U2 R L' D F D' F' B2 U2 R2 L' F U2 F U' B' R2 F U2 B R' D2 R2 U' F'
    10) 21.76 L' R2 B2 R2 U' L R B2 F2 L' F' R U2 D2 L U R2 B' R2 D2 L2 B L F' D2
    11) 21.56 R U B' F' R D F R B2 F R' L F L2 U F2 L' D2 B' U R2 B2 R' B2 U
    12) 24.20 R U' B2 U F2 U2 L2 R' D' F' L' U L2 D U' B' U B2 D U2 F2 B' U2 B F

    I get quite a bit of sub-20 solves now biggrin.gif
    ewww yuck @ the 25+'s....

    DONE WITH NEW CUBE THAT I AM WEARING IN!!!!!
    BEARLY ANYONE WILL EVER GET A CUBE LIKE THIS!!!!!
    Edison pieces
    type A core + centres

    YOU CAN ONLY GET EDISON'S IN KOREA AND MY FRIEND WENT THERE!!!!! So he got me an edison cube. he also got some stuff.. for himself he got a...
    Joy Cube
    Megaminx
    Pyraminx
    ES 4x4x4
    ES 2x2x2
    sq-1 and yea >.>

    I'M GETTING A MEGAMINX AND PYRAMINX FOR X-mas!!!
    I'm so excited biggrin.gif

  657. daffy
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 12:53:33

    i stopped cubing. i find that it gets boring after a while of doing the same things sleep.gif sleep.gif

  658. grebz
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 16:22:28

    i used to have cube when i woz about 8 years old, i twisted it around so much i never once done it, and after about a year i just took the stickers off it and stuck them in the right order

  659. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 18:31:55

    QUOTE (Clyde Cazeñas @ Oct 22 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    my fastest is 46.25...using beginner's method (LBL) and my average is 50 secs...but I slowed down to 1 min + because the stickers of my old cube got so old so I just peeled 'em off then bought a new hard one, lubed it, but it's still hard even if I used silicone lol...that's why I'm slow again T_T

    Hopefully you broke the cube in before spraying it with silicone...

    Hey Fluke, old type-A core? Where are you getting them? Does C4Y still sell them?

  660. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 18:37:09

    I got a type A like..... quite a wile ago. I have 3 old A's tongue.gif...
    sadly I don't like type A's tongue.gif

  661. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 18:59:10

    The interest in me for a DIY is slightly increasing.
    Slightly, I still like my storeboughts though.

    Hook me up with an old A laugh.gif

  662. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 22:47:49

    Has anyone ordered off of Cubefans or Cube4you (Same site i think?)? I just want to know how good is the service and how quick does your order get to you.

  663. FrozenIce
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 23:01:42

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Oct 23 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Has anyone ordered off of Cubefans or Cube4you (Same site i think?)? I just want to know how good is the service and how quick does your order get to you.


    I've ordered from Cube4You before...

    Shipping...Sorry, but I don't exactly remember how long it took.

    But the cubes are really nice for their price, but DO NOT use the stickers they provide in the kit! Seriously, they feel cheap and ARE cheap. If you want stickers, order them from Cubesmith.

    Aside from poor quality stickers, the cube is really nice, breaks in easily, and turns well.

  664. Outlander
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 23:24:20

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Oct 23 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Has anyone ordered off of Cubefans or Cube4you (Same site i think?)? I just want to know how good is the service and how quick does your order get to you.


    I ordered off of cubefans and cube4you. Shipping to capital region NY took about one and a half weeks (paying for the slightly more costly shipping option).

    I heard that the cheap shipping option can take a month..

  665. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 01:40:01

    Thanks for the info. Screw that. I want a DIY cube (Just to put the dam thing together!) but im not such a patient person...

  666. FrozenIce
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 02:02:55

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Oct 23 2008, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Thanks for the info. Screw that. I want a DIY cube (Just to put the dam thing together!) but im not such a patient person...


    Yeah, it takes a while to put together a DIY cube, especially when it's your first time...The pieces are so tiny, but after putting together a couple, you get the hang of it.

  667. TRoc
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 02:04:00

    Then DON'T GET A THIRD MODEL TYPE A.

  668. FrozenIce
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 02:49:23

    QUOTE (TRoc @ Oct 23 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Then DON'T GET A THIRD MODEL TYPE A.


    What is that? I use an official DIY cube from rubiksshop.com.

  669. Outlander
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 03:09:37

    The third model Type A DIY has TONS of caps that need to be put onto a majority of the cubies (glueing them is suggested as far as I know from pestvic's walkthrough of assembling it).

  670. Fluke
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 07:05:26

    FINALLY first ever sub 20 avg of 12
    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Fri Oct 24 20:00:43 NZDT 2008 -----

    Average: 19.73

    Fastest Time: 13.48
    Slowest Time: 22.69
    Standard Deviation: 01.93

    Individual Times:
    1) 19.20
    2) 21.09
    3) 20.89
    4) 21.78
    5) (13.48)
    6) (22.69)
    7) 17.03
    8) 17.45
    9) 17.42
    10) 21.72
    11) 19.12
    12) 21.64

    I'M SO HAPPY
    13sec was full step, anti-sune, U-perm biggrin.gif
    The F2L was normal.... for some reason I did great look ahead!

    EDIT: just relised that there was a 17sec avg of 5 in there tongue.gif

    just did an average of 50 biggrin.gif
    50: 00:23.16 x
    49: 00:21.09 x
    48: 00:20.23 x
    47: 00:21.55 x
    46: 00:24.76 x
    45: 00:20.08 x
    44: 00:23.98 x
    43: 00:21.37 x
    42: 00:20.22 x
    41: 00:24.27 x
    40: 00:21.52 x
    39: 00:18.60 x
    38: 00:19.63 x
    37: 00:22.29 x
    36: 00:23.68 x
    35: 00:15.95 x
    34: 00:25.81 x
    33: 00:24.00 x
    32: 00:21.93 x
    31: 00:21.43 x
    30: 00:23.29 x
    29: 00:19.44 x
    28: 00:22.90 x
    27: 00:24.69 x
    26: 00:18.93 x
    25: 00:18.58 x
    24: 00:21.09 x
    23: 00:23.14 x
    22: 00:27.12 x
    21: 00:25.23 x
    20: 00:17.95 x
    19: 00:22.76 x
    18: 00:20.79 x
    17: 00:22.13 x
    16: 00:24.69 x
    15: 00:15.96 x
    14: 00:18.95 x
    13: 00:26.29 x
    12: 00:22.58 x
    11: 00:19.03 x
    10: 00:25.97 x
    9: 00:24.34 x
    8: 00:17.80 x
    7: 00:23.73 x
    6: 00:20.39 x
    5: 00:20.44 x
    4: 00:20.45 x
    3: 00:17.48 x
    2: 00:19.16 x
    1: 00:22.64 x
    AVERAGE = 21.67 biggrin.gif my true avg

  671. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 11:25:59

    Im patient when putting stuff together, i just dont want to wait for the cube to actually get to my house! dry.gif And all these types are killing me because i dont know which one is good.

  672. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 12:56:03

    Dude, Elmo, I'm telling you, just chill with your current cube for a bit.
    If you REALLY REALLY want a DIY just to put it together, it's kind of a waste of money in my opinion. Plus, actually having a DIY probably won't do much to your times at your current level (no offense). A DIY cube probably really helps with fingertricking and just cutting massive corners (probably, I wouldn't know, I've only ever used my storeboughts).

    I took a couple times this morning and was surprised at the 30+ times, and even managed to get a 33 ><
    But then after the first 4 or 5 solves, I started getting my usual 27s and 28s. I guess I just needed to warm up. I attribute this slower time to the fact that I now use my phone's stopwatch to time my solves, and I have to press that tiny button to stop the clock.
    I did manage to get a full step PB of 20.7 though, which is nice. I had an amazing look ahead and finished F2L at like, 16 or something.... which now that I think about it, is pretty typical for me... I guess I just had better OLL and PLL execution... =/

  673. Outlander
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 14:57:21

    Have any of you guys used CubeMania.org?

    I know there are a bunch of site out there, but I like this one best.

    You start and end your times by hitting the spacebar. It gives you random scrambles and you do 5 different ones that it then averages. It even plots them on a line graph to see how you're improving. Then you can compare your times to other members on the site to see how you do against others.

  674. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 19:38:05

    I dunno, I've gotten used to using jnetcube timer, and it works well enough for me. I don't need no stinkin' line graphs...!

    Also, I saw that Puzzleproz's forum is pretty decent and they have old type-A cores for sale too. Do they sell the different Chinese DIYs?

  675. Fluke
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 23:01:57

    I'm LukeMayn on cubemania.
    Turbulent Turtle:
    You can see my progress from that stage and how long it took me to get sub 20 or very low 20's biggrin.gif
    Just go onto timer then go "compare" and choose my name.
    (just some little side notes) my first sub 20 avg of 5 was lucky. pretty much all of the solves were AMAZING for that time tongue.gif
    (another side note >.<) The 30sec avg's were me experimenting with ZZ method.
    also @ TT: have you ever seen harris chan in real life >.<. Just noticed that you live in Canada lol

  676. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 01:06:09

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Oct 24 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm LukeMayn on cubemania.
    Turbulent Turtle:
    You can see my progress from that stage and how long it took me to get sub 20 or very low 20's biggrin.gif
    Just go onto timer then go "compare" and choose my name.
    (just some little side notes) my first sub 20 avg of 5 was lucky. pretty much all of the solves were AMAZING for that time tongue.gif
    (another side note >.<) The 30sec avg's were me experimenting with ZZ method.
    also @ TT: have you ever seen harris chan in real life >.<. Just noticed that you live in Canada lol

    Canada's a pretty big country dude....

    Also, I think I'm gonna order some stuff from PuzzleProz this weekend, or sometime soon. I made an account there, and the guy seems to have an excellent variety of merch. Hopefully I can get some type-Ds from him, because he sells old-A cores.

  677. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 02:00:28

    I really want to get a dam DIY cube... which makes me mad cuz i dont want to wait for it to get here!

  678. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 03:29:08

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Oct 24 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Canada's a pretty big country dude....

    Also, I think I'm gonna order some stuff from PuzzleProz this weekend, or sometime soon. I made an account there, and the guy seems to have an excellent variety of merch. Hopefully I can get some type-Ds from him, because he sells old-A cores.

    know canada's big... I meant it as a joke, and kind of real if you actually had tongue.gif
    anyway, after wearing in my edison with type A insides, D feels like a pile of s***... just ad to say >.>

  679. FrozenIce
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 04:19:54

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Oct 24 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I really want to get a dam DIY cube... which makes me mad cuz i dont want to wait for it to get here!


    Yeah, Rubiksshop.com's shipping to the U.S. is painfully slow...it took a week and a half to get here...But it's probably because it was stuck at customs or something.

  680. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 09:36:06

    What're the advantages of a DIY cube?

  681. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 14:32:25

    Im new to speed cubing but from what i can gather the DIY cubes are adjustable. The spring tension in the center pieces can be adjusted to be looser letting the faces spin faster. Also apparently DIY cubes can cut corners very nicely. There are 3 major DIY cubes. Rubiks, Eastsheen, and Cube4You Cubes which are confusing. The confusing thing is the different types (A,B,C,D,F) all have something different about them whether its weight, kind of plastic, core, screws, popping prevention, etc. From what I read the better cubes are the Type A and Type D, with C coming in between those 2. I may be wrong but thats what I gather from some research. (Yea i sat there and researched this stuff, i like to know what im talking about...)

  682. komas
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 15:03:05

    Is anyone going to do the Negative Time Solving Contest?

  683. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 20:22:52

    QUOTE (komas @ Oct 25 2008, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Is anyone going to do the Negative Time Solving Contest?

    D: I missed it...... no WR times for me sad.gif

  684. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 21:22:03

    I think I might actually try out some Edison cubes, where did you get them?
    If I recall correctly, that one Japanese shop started selling them outside of Japan or whatever, right? Or were those the

    I think I might actually try out some Edison cubes, where did you get them?
    If I recall correctly, that one Japanese shop started selling them outside of Japan or whatever, right? Or were those the Joy cubes?

  685. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 23:05:58

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Oct 25 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I think I might actually try out some Edison cubes, where did you get them?
    If I recall correctly, that one Japanese shop started selling them outside of Japan or whatever, right? Or were those the

    I think I might actually try out some Edison cubes, where did you get them?
    If I recall correctly, that one Japanese shop started selling them outside of Japan or whatever, right? Or were those the Joy cubes?

    yea, tribox started to sell them biggrin.gif

  686. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 01:27:45

    Does anyone have a Rubiks Ice Cube? Im thinking about getting one. I know, i know, Rubiks 2x2x2s are terrible, but unless I find a place where I can order one that doesnt use paypal, the Ice Cube is the only 2x2x2 I can get.

  687. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 02:04:42

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Oct 26 2008, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone have a Rubiks Ice Cube? Im thinking about getting one. I know, i know, Rubiks 2x2x2s are terrible, but unless I find a place where I can order one that doesnt use paypal, the Ice Cube is the only 2x2x2 I can get.




    lol I want one too .. but I think it was a special edition one. XD

  688. FrozenIce
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 04:21:46

    Ice Cube is just plain weird looking. Just get the 2x2 with the original colors.

    If you can order from Rubiksshop.com, you should be able to get it.

  689. MrData
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 05:15:50

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Oct 25 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone have a Rubiks Ice Cube? Im thinking about getting one. I know, i know, Rubiks 2x2x2s are terrible, but unless I find a place where I can order one that doesnt use paypal, the Ice Cube is the only 2x2x2 I can get.

    I have one.
    I pretty much hate it because it's so hard to turn.
    I can't find a normal 2x2 unfortunately. D:

  690. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 06:04:21

    Im not one to order online so the ice cube is my only choice... or a junior cube which would require some new stickers happy.gif

  691. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 06:45:03

    QUOTE (MrData @ Oct 26 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I have one.
    I pretty much hate it because it's so hard to turn.
    I can't find a normal 2x2 unfortunately. D:



    It's hard to turn? Can't you lubricate it? Or spray something in to it?

  692. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 07:54:43

    lol avg today.... not sub 20 D: but 20.00 biggrin.gif
    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Sun Oct 26 20:53:43 NZDT 2008 -----

    Average: 20.00

    Fastest Time: 16.62
    Slowest Time: 23.34
    Standard Deviation: 01.50

    Individual Times:
    1) (16.62) F2 U2 F D' U' B2 R F2 D' B' L B2 R' U D2 L U2 L2 B R2 F R U' L' D'
    2) 19.20 D' B U' R B' U' F' U D R D' B R' B' D B R2 B2 D2 L2 D' B2 R L2 D2
    3) 20.02 L' R' D2 F' B2 R D B2 D L' R F' B' D2 U' L2 F' D2 U R2 U' L' R D R'
    4) 18.11 R2 U' R U2 L B' R' U2 F' U L2 D' L' D' L2 D B' D F L2 U' R' D2 U2 R
    5) 18.83 D' B2 R2 L D R' L B' U2 D' L2 D2 L' F' R2 D F2 U' B' U D' B' D2 B' U2
    6) 20.17 U' R2 U D' F U B2 L D' B L' F L' U' D' R U2 L2 U2 L' R' F L R' U'
    7) 22.36 D' F2 B2 U2 R2 U B' L2 R2 U2 D B F' R2 L' U F' L B' D' L2 F2 L2 D2 F'
    8) 21.06 U R' B F D U' F L F B' U B' U' D2 F' R L' D F L' F2 D' L2 B U2
    9) 20.78 D2 B F2 U D' L2 R2 F' R F U R' U' F2 R' F B' U' F L U' F2 R' U F'
    10) 17.83 R' L F' U' L' U' F' R B2 D' R' L' B2 L B U2 R' U2 L2 R2 U2 B L' R F'
    11) (23.34) B2 R' L' U2 D' B' U F L' B' D' U' R B' D' L F' U' B' F' R2 D U' L' B2
    12) 21.61 D' L' R' D' F L2 D R B2 F' R2 D' L' U2 F' R F D' F' U' F2 L2 R' U2 F

    cool... chau

  693. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 08:00:58

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Oct 26 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    lol avg today.... not sub 20 D: but 20.00 biggrin.gif
    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Sun Oct 26 20:53:43 NZDT 2008 -----

    Average: 20.00

    Fastest Time: 16.62
    Slowest Time: 23.34
    Standard Deviation: 01.50

    Individual Times:
    1) (16.62) F2 U2 F D' U' B2 R F2 D' B' L B2 R' U D2 L U2 L2 B R2 F R U' L' D'
    2) 19.20 D' B U' R B' U' F' U D R D' B R' B' D B R2 B2 D2 L2 D' B2 R L2 D2
    3) 20.02 L' R' D2 F' B2 R D B2 D L' R F' B' D2 U' L2 F' D2 U R2 U' L' R D R'
    4) 18.11 R2 U' R U2 L B' R' U2 F' U L2 D' L' D' L2 D B' D F L2 U' R' D2 U2 R
    5) 18.83 D' B2 R2 L D R' L B' U2 D' L2 D2 L' F' R2 D F2 U' B' U D' B' D2 B' U2
    6) 20.17 U' R2 U D' F U B2 L D' B L' F L' U' D' R U2 L2 U2 L' R' F L R' U'
    7) 22.36 D' F2 B2 U2 R2 U B' L2 R2 U2 D B F' R2 L' U F' L B' D' L2 F2 L2 D2 F'
    8) 21.06 U R' B F D U' F L F B' U B' U' D2 F' R L' D F L' F2 D' L2 B U2
    9) 20.78 D2 B F2 U D' L2 R2 F' R F U R' U' F2 R' F B' U' F L U' F2 R' U F'
    10) 17.83 R' L F' U' L' U' F' R B2 D' R' L' B2 L B U2 R' U2 L2 R2 U2 B L' R F'
    11) (23.34) B2 R' L' U2 D' B' U F L' B' D' U' R B' D' L F' U' B' F' R2 D U' L' B2
    12) 21.61 D' L' R' D' F L2 D R B2 F' R2 D' L' U2 F' R F D' F' U' F2 L2 R' U2 F

    cool... chau


    F2L I presume?

  694. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 08:02:15

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 26 2008, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    F2L I presume?

    no... full solves o.O

  695. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 08:42:21

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Oct 26 2008, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    no... full solves o.O


    No no no ... like ... did you do the First 2 Layers at the same time?

  696. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 12:16:45

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 26 2008, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No no no ... like ... did you do the First 2 Layers at the same time?

    Are you asking him what method he uses?

  697. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 20:54:33

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 26 2008, 04:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No no no ... like ... did you do the First 2 Layers at the same time?

    of course.... it really hard to get that fast with LBL
    (that wasn't saying that other methods like petrus or heise are bad)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM
    learn F2L from here, no algs needed. I'd suggest that you learn algs for cases over 8 or 9 moves

  698. FrozenIce
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 21:03:09

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 25 2008, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    It's hard to turn? Can't you lubricate it? Or spray something in to it?


    It's just hard to take apart, but once you take it apart, it can be lubricated like a 3x3.

  699. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 06:22:39

    QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Oct 27 2008, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    It's just hard to take apart, but once you take it apart, it can be lubricated like a 3x3.


    No... don't take it apart... turn the top layer a little bit ... then L a little bit ... so there's a little square hole.


    Now spray something into it. =D

  700. FrozenIce
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 07:01:24

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 26 2008, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No... don't take it apart... turn the top layer a little bit ... then L a little bit ... so there's a little square hole.


    Now spray something into it. =D


    The problem with that, is that the lubricant doesn't get distributed as evenly...But you don't have to take it apart if you don't want to.

  701. Rawn
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 08:19:52

    What I do to lube is that I take out two opposite edge pieces on one face and spray a little bit of silicone on the plastic that is exposed on both sides. Then you put the pieces back in a turn that layer for a while to work it in do this for all layers and it should give it an even spread. Might not be the best way, but it works for me.

  702. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 09:04:00

    QUOTE (Rawn @ Oct 27 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What I do to lube is that I take out two opposite edge pieces on one face and spray a little bit of silicone on the plastic that is exposed on both sides. Then you put the pieces back in a turn that layer for a while to work it in do this for all layers and it should give it an even spread. Might not be the best way, but it works for me.


    There are no edge pieces on a 2x2x2 .. o_O

  703. Outlander
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 12:20:32

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Oct 25 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone have a Rubiks Ice Cube? Im thinking about getting one. I know, i know, Rubiks 2x2x2s are terrible, but unless I find a place where I can order one that doesnt use paypal, the Ice Cube is the only 2x2x2 I can get.


    If you do get one, its worth checking out this vid to adjust it to be a little looser (Its hard to turn out of the package): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBQuQNsJh8U

  704. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Oct 28 2008 11:33:28

    So I bought one (because someone broke my 3x3 dry.gif) and its fun... it just sucks. I made it looser, and lubed it. But this thing is just garbage. My fingers are killing me from the cube locking up. But its still fun as hell! Now to save up for a 4x4!

  705. ttwbioraka
    Date: Tue, Oct 28 2008 13:23:53

    Yes i can solve one. I have 2x2x2,3x3x3,4x4x4*lost it*, and a 5x5x5 which i haven't touched for a while.

    *flashback*
    I remember having fun with my 4x4x4. When the bell rang for recess, I put it inside my bag. As i returned, IT WAS GONE!!!
    My suspect is my seatmate who likes to wreck havoc in our school,he gets a lot of sanctions.
    *sob*

  706. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Oct 28 2008 13:27:16

    See thats wy you always ave your cube with you.

  707. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 04:34:39

    Taken last Saturday.


  708. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 09:36:52

    o.O you need to look ahead from cross-F2L stage

    was LLL was that?
    (eg 3LLL)

  709. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 15:34:53

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Nov 1 2008, 03:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    o.O you need to look ahead from cross-F2L stage

    was LLL was that?
    (eg 3LLL)

    I know, that has been my biggest problem and why I cant improve by that much anymore until I get my look ahead solid.

    LL was, I believe, something, sune and A perm?

    Other than that, how was it? Am I progressing along at an okay enough rate? I have never liked my fingertricking either...

  710. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 23:44:50

    you seem to be going OK,
    For U' do you use thumb and index (like can you effectively use them depending on the case)
    slowing down in F2L helps a lot. progress to faster turning SLOWLY. Don't try turn Nakaji speed or anything tongue.gif

    Anyway I got a PB today on 3x3x3. 10.13

    happyy.gif

    about 7 move X-cross
    next F2L was that one where its already in but the edge is unoriented
    next slot was y2 L' U L
    Last slot was R U R' U' R U' R'
    OLL was R U R' U' x D' R' U R U' D
    PLL SKIP

    38HTM smile.gif
    (just reverse OLL to see case smile.gif)
    happyy.gif



    MY PLL's

    U Permutation : b

    • [R’ U R’ U’ R’ U’ R’ U R U R2]
    --------------------
    U Permutation : a

    [R2 U’ R’ U’ R U R U R U’ R]
    --------------------
    A Permutation : a


    • [l’ U R’ D2 R U’ R’ D2 R2]

    --------------------

    E Permutation

    [x’ R U' R' D R U R' u2 R’ U R D R’ U’ R]

    --------------------

    A Permutation : b

    [y x R D’ R U2 R’ D R U2 (R+Lw)]
    G Permutation : a

    • [R2' Uw R' U R' U' R Uw’ R2 y' R' U R]
    --------------------
    G Permutation : b

    • [y L' U' L y' R2' Uw R' U R U' R Uw’ R2]
    --------------------
    G Permutation : c

    • [y R2' Uw’ R U' R U R' Uw R2 Fw R' Fw’]
    --------------------
    G Permutation : d

    [R U R' y' R2 Uw’ R U' R' U R' Uw R2]
    --------------------
    H Permutation

    • [M2’ U’ M2’ U2’ M2’ U’ M2’]
    --------------------
    Z Permutation : b

    • [U R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R' U]
    --------------------
    R Permutation : b

    [R' U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F' R2' U']
    --------------------
    R Permutation : a

    • [L U2 L’ U2 L F’ L’ U’ L U L F R2 U]
    --------------------
    J Permutation : b

    [R U R’ F’ R U R’ U’ R’ F R2 U’ R’ U’]
    --------------------

    J Permutation : a

    • [R’ U L’ U2 R U’ R’ U2 R L U’]

    Y Permutation

    • [F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F']

    --------------------

    T Permutation

    • [R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F']

    --------------------

    N Permutation : b

    • [R’ U R’ F R F’ R U’ R’ F’ U F R U R’ U’ R]

    -----------------------

    N Permutation : a

    • [y’ z R' U R' D R2’ U' R U D' R' D R2’ U' R D']



    V Permutation

    • [R' U R' U' y x2 R' U R' U' R2 y x R' U' R U R]
    --------------------

    F Permutation

    • [U' R' U R U' R'2 F' U' F U R x U R' U' R2]

  711. TRoc
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 01:11:22

    Fluke, I'd like to see some Cubing videos biggrin.gif

    Well, my Rubik's DIY came in the mail today happyy.gif , my first real DIY cube. It's so nice. I know my times dropped. I hear it'll get better and better after I lube it, so I'm waiting.

  712. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 04:38:56

    I fucking despise the N perms I currently use, so I think Im gonna be giving the ones you posted a try. So far, after a couple run throughs, I really like them and I am definitely sticking with it.

    As for U2(prime), I have heard of people using their thumb and index finger for it, but I have just never applied it to my solves. I does feel nice, but I guess its just kinda awkward.

  713. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 05:55:49

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 1 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I fucking despise the N perms I currently use, so I think Im gonna be giving the ones you posted a try. So far, after a couple run throughs, I really like them and I am definitely sticking with it.

    As for U2(prime), I have heard of people using their thumb and index finger for it, but I have just never applied it to my solves. I does feel nice, but I guess its just kinda awkward.

    yea. you have to be in the right place for it :/ but it can be a dream in algs!
    I'll post a vid shortly smile.gif I'll keep on going till I get a (hopefully) sub 15.

    EDIT: Just relised I already have a 14 sec solve on my channel tongue.gif here it is smile.gif

  714. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 09:01:52

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Nov 2 2008, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    yea. you have to be in the right place for it :/ but it can be a dream in algs!
    I'll post a vid shortly smile.gif I'll keep on going till I get a (hopefully) sub 15.

    EDIT: Just relised I already have a 14 sec solve on my channel tongue.gif here it is smile.gif


    Was that the Fridrich method solve?

  715. Herro
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 09:35:07

    Haven't posted here in a while... If you're looking for a video of me, here's one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZwEIpQbs7w
    Good times... Also, who did the negative time contest? http://cubefreak.net/negative.html You get to stay up till 2 and wait for DST to end... Those were good times too... yep, good times... good... times... nighty...nigh.. sleep.gif

  716. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 18:50:13

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Nov 2 2008, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Was that the Fridrich method solve?

    si smile.gif

  717. sangara
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 00:42:51

    So I ordered my new DIY cube along with some non slip stickers (nate said I should plus he wanted some) and I have to say I'm really excited to get it. But anyway so I know the Layer by Layer method really well, in my hight of cubing I was hitting 60-58 at times but now it's gone down to 1:30. Anyway I'm just really wondering do any of you guys know who badmephisto is? I'm just wondering if he is a good source to learn more advanced stuff from. Thanks.

  718. VGamer
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 01:05:01

    I forgot most of the algorithms. I need to study again. sad.gif

  719. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 02:14:09

    QUOTE (sangara @ Nov 2 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So I ordered my new DIY cube along with some non slip stickers (nate said I should plus he wanted some) and I have to say I'm really excited to get it. But anyway so I know the Layer by Layer method really well, in my hight of cubing I was hitting 60-58 at times but now it's gone down to 1:30. Anyway I'm just really wondering do any of you guys know who badmephisto is? I'm just wondering if he is a good source to learn more advanced stuff from. Thanks.

    Most people learn intuitive F2L from badmephisto.

    And jeez, do you REALLY need a DIY when you only know LBL and your time is 1min+?
    Im consistently getting sub-30s and Ive only started to think about getting a DIY.

  720. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 02:45:08

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 2 2008, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Most people learn intuitive F2L from badmephisto.

    And jeez, do you REALLY need a DIY when you only know LBL and your time is 1min+?
    Im consistently getting sub-30s and Ive only started to think about getting a DIY.

    lol so true but I gues It'll be worn in by the time he's at our stage tongue.gif

  721. sangara
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 04:33:18

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 2 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Most people learn intuitive F2L from badmephisto.

    And jeez, do you REALLY need a DIY when you only know LBL and your time is 1min+?
    Im consistently getting sub-30s and Ive only started to think about getting a DIY.


    Yea I know it's over kill but my store-bought was demolished so it's kinda like why not? Plus I doubt I will get into serious speed cubing like sub 30's it's almost like a collectors item(the fact that it's green)? And my final reason it's about the same expense (minus shipping of course T_T).

  722. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 05:23:55

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 3 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Most people learn intuitive F2L from badmephisto.

    And jeez, do you REALLY need a DIY when you only know LBL and your time is 1min+?
    Im consistently getting sub-30s and Ive only started to think about getting a DIY.


    What does solving it 'intuitive' mean?

  723. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 05:40:01

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Nov 3 2008, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What does solving it 'intuitive' mean?

    figuring it out your self.
    Intuitive F2L = Like know 3 intuitive things which solve the full F2L instede of learning 40whatever algs.

  724. FrozenIce
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 06:25:43

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 2 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    And jeez, do you REALLY need a DIY when you only know LBL and your time is 1min+?
    Im consistently getting sub-30s and Ive only started to think about getting a DIY.


    My first cube(that I could call it mine) was a DIY cube.

    But before that, my brother had the 25th anniversary cube with stickers that peeled off in one day.

    But you're still using a store-bought cube? That one in the video you posted looks like a DIY cube to me...

  725. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 01:56:45

    Ive never touched nor even seen a DIY cube.

  726. hoiboy909
    Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 04:52:39

    hey does anyone have a link to the f2l method?

  727. Rarka
    Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 13:07:49

    Very good F2L tutorial by Badmephisto:
    http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4GxLM_dZqg4

    Anyway, today at school I did my PB without LC : 43s (Fridrich Metod with simply OLL). I've been cubing for 1 month and 1 week.

  728. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 13:29:33

    Recorded a personal best non lucky solve of 20.52 the other day. Felt pretty good. And considering that my personal best with a lucky solve (OLL skip) is 19.73, it bodes quite well.
    Also have been making a better effort with look ahead for F2L.

  729. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 18:46:42

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 4 2008, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Recorded a personal best non lucky solve of 20.52 the other day. Felt pretty good. And considering that my personal best with a lucky solve (OLL skip) is 19.73, it bodes quite well.
    Also have been making a better effort with look ahead for F2L.


    YAY smile.gif

    and to hoiboi

    all you need smile.gif (don't mind about CxLL, thats for other method the fridrich)

    http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

  730. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 19:13:42

    Ive been kinda experimenting with Roux lately, cause it seems like a really cool method. I usually get stuck at that one part where you have to make the top and bottom layer colours the same though, if that makes any sense. I read somewhere that it can be done intuitively, and I also checked out the Roux site for alorithms, but Im still kinda confused about it.

  731. husong1995
    Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 03:07:51

    I've been cubing for a year with fridrich, which i would say is the best. I managed to get 12 second solve with it. But does anyone have a good tut on roux method?

  732. daffy
    Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 13:10:34

    when i asked my dad if we could go and buy silicone for lube he said i was obsessed huh.gif

  733. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 22:42:58

    My parents havent said anything about obsession with the cube, but considering they saw my stage with pens, its not that hard to believe.

  734. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Nov 6 2008 15:00:36

    My parents are seeing my obsession with the cube. I dont have many but they think its alot. I have 2 3x3s a 2x2 and i recently just got a magic.

  735. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Nov 6 2008 18:55:31

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Nov 6 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    My parents are seeing my obsession with the cube. I dont have many but they think its alot. I have 2 3x3s a 2x2 and i recently just got a magic.

    HAHA my parents say a lot cos I have.....
    x2 - 2x2x2's (both Eastsheen, one white, one black)
    x8 - 3x3x3's ( a lot of different types...)
    x2 - 4x4x4's ( 1 rubik's which I hate, and on lovely Eastsheen)
    x1 - 5x5x5 (just eastsheen)
    x1 - square-1 (yup...)
    x1 - magic
    x10 - sets of cubesmith stickers smile.gif

  736. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Nov 6 2008 21:53:51

    I only have two 3x3s. Both are storebought.

  737. FrozenIce
    Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 02:39:14

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 6 2008, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I only have two 3x3s. Both are storebought.


    You can buy white cubes in a store? I'm referring to the one you used in the video you posted.

  738. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 05:03:38

    QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Nov 6 2008, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You can buy white cubes in a store? I'm referring to the one you used in the video you posted.

    Black Rubiks brand storebought cube.
    I have never seen a white cube being sold, ever.

  739. omega
    Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 05:13:56

    Just getting over a minute is pretty fast....(thats wat i think).

  740. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 14:03:19

    I just recently started to get under a minute consistently. Im now working on getting under 50 seconds. Im going in 10 second intervals smile.gif

  741. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 19:40:41

    QUOTE (omega @ Nov 6 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Just getting over a minute is pretty fast....(thats wat i think).

    Meh, I think even being able to solve the cube is pretty good already.

  742. komas
    Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 23:26:50

    just got a void cube! it starts out turning really bad, but its getting better after some breaking in.

  743. TRoc
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 00:37:43

    QUOTE (komas @ Nov 7 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    just got a void cube! it starts out turning really bad, but its getting better after some breaking in.

    OOO you did. Where did you order it from. I also want the Mirror Blocks cube.

    And my Eastsheen 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 came today. They're so small!

  744. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 06:58:01

    nice

    3x3x3 avg. of 12 PB:
    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Sat Nov 08 19:52:22 NZDT 2008 -----

    Average: 19.14

    Fastest Time: 16.34
    Slowest Time: 22.31
    Standard Deviation: 01.82

    Individual Times:
    1) (16.34) L F' R' B2 F U2 D' R' D2 R' L2 F L' R D' F L F D' R F2 U2 F' U2 B2
    2) 21.62 U B' L D R F2 D2 F' B' R' L' B' R' D B2 L2 F L B' R D' L2 R' F2 B
    3) 21.55 F' L' R F' D2 U R' B' R2 U2 F2 B' L' R' D2 F' U B D' F2 L' D L U' R2
    4) 16.72 R L2 U' R' F' U B' L2 U2 D' R' F' D2 B2 U' R2 B' D F L F' R B' L' D'
    5) 19.52 U L D2 B F L U2 R U L U' B' R B' D' F' R' F2 B U' F2 L' B R' D
    6) 19.64 B R U2 R L D2 B2 L D2 L2 F' R' F2 R' L2 F D B F2 R' D2 U R2 U2 F
    7) 20.50 L2 B2 L' B' R' D2 R' D2 L2 R2 D' F' B' L' U2 D2 F2 R D R2 D2 B' U R' F'
    8) (22.31) R U F2 U2 D' R' U' R D' B' F' L R U L' B' D2 U L2 D U2 L U2 R F2
    9) 17.55 L F' D2 B R2 L2 F' R2 F2 L' U2 D' R U' B U2 D' F2 U D L U' B2 U2 B
    10) 19.52 D2 B2 R B' R F L2 D2 U2 B2 L U' L' U' B D2 F B' R' B' F2 R' D' U' L2
    11) 18.17 R' D B L D B' D F' L B' L2 F2 B' D' B D' U' R' B' U' B2 D' B2 R2 L'
    12) 16.64 D2 R' D' R2 B2 D2 L2 B' R F L' F2 B D B D U' R' F B2 D U L2 F L2

    Almost sub 19 smile.gif
    I also believe I set the single solve record for New Zealand (10.13) sooo close to sub 10 >.>

    here's a random fact about speedsolving:
    The Faster you are, the more solves you do, the slower you progress tongue.gif

    You also have to warm up more angryfire.gif lol
    I was averaging 23's at the beginning of my session

  745. Darkeh
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 15:47:19

    What method do you sub 1 min use? I'm learning Petrus right now

  746. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 17:32:09

    Agreed on the warming up. When I want to start timing myself, right off the bat I get 30s... But after a couple more goes its all good again.

  747. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 01:50:43

    QUOTE (Darkeh @ Nov 8 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What method do you sub 1 min use? I'm learning Petrus right now

    there's a guy on www.speedsolving.com who can average 14secs with a modded version of Petrus.
    He does all the block bulding stuff, the Edge orientation, then he makes the cube look like it has a triple X-cross (so one slot left) The he does MGLS, but since the edges are already oriented, he only has to do 1 alg for the last slot and OLL.

  748. MrThomasBeckwith
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 16:07:20

    i've been cubing for 2-3 weeks. but my solves average between 50-60secs. my f2l takes me about 30-40 secs. how would u cut that timing down?

  749. l33tPi
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 18:21:47

    i have been cubing for about a year and i use the fridriks(i cant spell) method and my record is 21 sec but i average about 47 sec so i recommend using this method

  750. TRoc
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 18:29:48

    QUOTE (l33tPi @ Nov 9 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i have been cubing for about a year and i use the fridriks(i cant spell) method and my record is 21 sec but i average about 47 sec so i recommend using this method

    Wow, 21 and you average 47. Did you have like an LL skip or something.

  751. l33tPi
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 18:33:52

    QUOTE (TRoc @ Nov 9 2008, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wow, 21 and you average 47. Did you have like an LL skip or something.

    yup

  752. FrozenIce
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 18:35:55

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 6 2008, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Black Rubiks brand storebought cube.
    I have never seen a white cube being sold, ever.


    Maybe I was thinking of another video then...Never mind.

    But there was a white DIY cube that was discontinued...

    By the way, what do you use to lubricate your cube?

  753. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 19:05:47

    I've stopped using my DIYs for a while. I now average around 1.10 with a regular cube and I'm very happy. biggrin.gif

  754. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 19:06:24

    QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Nov 9 2008, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Maybe I was thinking of another video then...Never mind.

    But there was a white DIY cube that was discontinued...

    By the way, what do you use to lubricate your cube?

    Jig-A-Loo.

  755. Cawibo
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 19:12:28

    I've been solving the 3x3x3 cube for 11months now. Long time sinse I practiced and therefor my solve time now is 1min --> 2min sad.gif

    ATM I'm kinda happy cuz I managed to solve the 4x4x4 cube without any help!
    Time, First Solve: 9months

    I use the Layer by Layer method.

    Is there any 4x4x4 or 5x5x5 cube with the same ¨cube size¨ as 3x3x3?

    /Cawibo

  756. l33tPi
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 19:25:03

    QUOTE (Cawibo @ Nov 9 2008, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I've been solving the 3x3x3 cube for 11months now. Long time sinse I practiced and therefor my solve time now is 1min --> 2min sad.gif

    ATM I'm kinda happy cuz I managed to solve the 4x4x4 cube without any help!
    Time, First Solve: 9months

    I use the Layer by Layer method.

    Is there any 4x4x4 or 5x5x5 cube with the same ¨cube size¨ as 3x3x3?

    /Cawibo

    no there isn't

  757. Cawibo
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 20:31:13

    QUOTE (l33tPi @ Nov 9 2008, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    no there isn't

    Doh! sad.gif

  758. TRoc
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 20:52:46

    QUOTE (l33tPi @ Nov 9 2008, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    no there isn't

    Yes there are. I just got my eastsheen 5x5 and 4x4. They're about a half a centimeter bigger than the 3x3. I'll post a picture of comparison soon.

  759. l33tPi
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 22:49:48

    QUOTE (TRoc @ Nov 9 2008, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yes there are. I just got my eastsheen 5x5 and 4x4. They're about a half a centimeter bigger than the 3x3. I'll post a picture of comparison soon.

    i know that eastsheens are small but there not as small as a 3x3 but there pretty close

  760. FrozenIce
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 23:05:46

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 9 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Jig-A-Loo.


    Could you give me a link to it?

    Thanks!

  761. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 00:39:56

    So who has a DIY they wanna throw my way? Lol j/k. I cant wait to get me a DIY!!!! And a 4x4!!!

  762. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 01:24:19

    QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Nov 9 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Could you give me a link to it?

    Thanks!

    What do you mean, a link to the lubricant's site?
    Um.... here?
    http://www.jigaloo.com/

  763. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 01:26:03

    QUOTE (Cawibo @ Nov 9 2008, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Doh! sad.gif

    WTF!
    Eastsheen 4x4's and 5x5's are only like a millimetre bigger o.O

  764. komas
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 05:54:42

    QUOTE (TRoc @ Nov 7 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    OOO you did. Where did you order it from. I also want the Mirror Blocks cube.

    And my Eastsheen 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 came today. They're so small!


    Sorry, I don't know if there's a site that ships void cubes to the US. My dad brought one from Japan for my birthday.
    My void cube turns a lot better now. I can turn a side 360 degrees with a strong flick, but it sometimes overturns during solves.

    I'm also finally back into 2 min something blindfold solves! smile.gif

    Does anyone know if Eastsheens better than Rubik's for 4x4 and 5x5?

  765. TRoc
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 06:09:31

    I've tried both and I think the eastsheen is uncomparably better. The structure is pretty different and like all DIYs you can adjust the tension. It's smaller and cheaper too.

    And do you know how the void cube is held together.huh(1).gif It has no core

  766. komas
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 06:16:36

    I took it apart for cleaning, and its pretty crazy. Hereare someone's pictures of the internals.

  767. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 20:04:28

    Thats nuts!

  768. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 20:46:47

    So my birthday is coming up, I guess I'll ask my friend if he can let me order some stuff with his Paypal now.
    He said maybe when I asked him about a week ago, even when I said I'll pay him back in full right after he makes the order.



    =\

    I'm thinking that by the time this happens, PuzzleProz might not have any type Ds left, so that kinda sucks. I'll end up getting 2 type As probably, I definitely want to maybe get an ES 4x4 too. We'll see when I cross that bridge.

  769. sangara
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 20:46:58

    Wait so I don't get the void cube, do you have to solve it a special way or could you still use a normal method?

  770. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 20:51:27

    QUOTE (sangara @ Nov 10 2008, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wait so I don't get the void cube, do you have to solve it a special way or could you still use a normal method?

    You don't know which center is which, so it requires a bit more knowledge of the colour scheme.
    Like say if your using the white across yellow colour scheme, it might not be a good idea to just suddenly switch it up and solve it blue across white.

  771. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 23:19:45

    Im assuming its the same as solving a 3x3 you just have to get the colors right. Seems like fun and can really mess with people when u can do it. I would get one but i cant order anything online!!!! sad.gif

  772. komas
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 23:44:22

    One more thing with the void cube is that you can have a permutation parity where just two edges or two corners are switched, due to the fact that there are no set centers.

  773. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 00:59:29

    Yargh... dam that parity! O M G i cant wait to order me a set of eastsheen cubes off of husky!!!!

  774. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 03:04:28

    Husky? The oil company?

  775. TRoc
    Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 03:25:07

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 10 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Husky? The oil company?

    lol, probably Huskyomega, an ebay cube seller guy.

  776. l33tPi
    Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 04:23:12

    QUOTE (TRoc @ Nov 10 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    lol, probably Huskyomega, an ebay cube seller guy.

    i heard that guy sells really good cubes

  777. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 12:29:51

    He sells like sets of eastsheens. I wanna get a white 2x2,4x4,and 5x5 set. And its like what 36 bucks or so and then shipping so like 45 bucks or so. And hes 100% reliable. Id order off of him or C4Y. I want the set, but I want to get a DIY Magic set off of C4Y and make like a whole slew of custom magics.

  778. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 16:54:38

    Pretty intriguing, though I don't think I'll be going for the entire set just yet, I'll stick with my 3x3 for now, and maybe get a 4x4.

  779. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 22:30:41

    I want to get a 4x4 also, but i already have a 2x2 and thats fun, its just not an eastsheen tongue.gif. And i figure while im at it ill get the 5x5 so why not get the whole set?

  780. onestruecolors
    Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 15:40:24

    I use the Roux method and have gotten down to ~25 seconds. I need to learn the CMLL algorithms sleep(1).gif that should cut down at least 2 or so seconds.

  781. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 19:55:39

    QUOTE (onestruecolors @ Nov 12 2008, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I use the Roux method and have gotten down to ~25 seconds. I need to learn the CMLL algorithms sleep(1).gif that should cut down at least 2 or so seconds.

    Wooo a Roux user! Think you could teach me the ways?
    The I am most unsure about is aligning the top and bottom edges after you have the top corners permutated. And speakiing of which, I usually spam Y and T perms to permute the corners and I have no clue what I am doing. Think you could help me out?
    I looked on the Roux site but the algorithms he listed there dont really help me out at all. Then theres that tutorial on youtube and it doesnt help at all for anything past the first two 1x2x3 blocks.

  782. Darkeh
    Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 23:38:42

    What are the different letters on DIY cubes?
    And I got 2:08 using Petrus dry.gif I can't get it any faster lol

  783. komas
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 02:50:25

    Do you mean like a, b, c, d, etc?
    Those are different types of DIYs. Each one is a bit different, and some turn better than others.

  784. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 04:12:29

    Its all a matter or preference, really.

  785. MrThomasBeckwith
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 06:20:19

    should be easy to get faster from 2 min. just play around with the cube for a week and u should be under a min. After that i've got no idea how to go faster either. haha. im stuck at 50++ secs

  786. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 13:58:36

    Its all about practice.

  787. wizwarezx
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 14:02:54

    ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350">

    some stuff we did during a small gathering. And thats totally not me...=p

  788. Rarka
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 16:09:17

    Yay, I've just done my first sub40 solve smile.gif


    Spoiler:

    Statistics for 11-13-2008 17:04:49

    Average: 48,56
    Standard Deviation: 1,26
    Best Time: 39,89
    Worst Time: 55,52
    Individual Times:
    1. 47,09 R' B2 D' U F2 D2 U2 R F' L' R2 D2 B F' D2 B' F U' B2 F' L R D B2 F2
    2. 50,17 B2 F U F D2 L2 R B F D' U2 F2 L D B' F U B' R D B2 L' B F2 R'
    3. 48,42 D' B' D' B2 F L2 R2 F2 L2 R2 B' D B' F L' D2 U' F' R2 D2 B' L2 R' B' F2
    4. (39,89) [oO!] F U' L' R B2 L B' D U L B U2 L F2 R B' F2 D2 R' U2 B L R2 B L2
    5. (55,52) L2 R' D R D' U2 L' R D' U B D2 L F' L2 B R B F' D' R2 B U L F2


    I've been cubing for 6-7 weeks.

  789. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 17:49:36

    Grats on breaking the 40 barrier, Now aim for sub-40 average.

    I have been so busy this week, no time to practice, so I think my time will be low 30s the next time I record some solves.

  790. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 18:45:38

    QUOTE (Rarka @ Nov 13 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yay, I've just done my first sub40 solve smile.gif


    Spoiler:

    Statistics for 11-13-2008 17:04:49

    Average: 48,56
    Standard Deviation: 1,26
    Best Time: 39,89
    Worst Time: 55,52
    Individual Times:
    1. 47,09 R' B2 D' U F2 D2 U2 R F' L' R2 D2 B F' D2 B' F U' B2 F' L R D B2 F2
    2. 50,17 B2 F U F D2 L2 R B F D' U2 F2 L D B' F U B' R D B2 L' B F2 R'
    3. 48,42 D' B' D' B2 F L2 R2 F2 L2 R2 B' D B' F L' D2 U' F' R2 D2 B' L2 R' B' F2
    4. (39,89) [oO!] F U' L' R B2 L B' D U L B U2 L F2 R B' F2 D2 R' U2 B L R2 B L2
    5. (55,52) L2 R' D R D' U2 L' R D' U B D2 L F' L2 B R B F' D' R2 B U L F2


    I've been cubing for 6-7 weeks.

    Haha, good job.
    This reminds me of my first sub 20 average which was 19.98 tongue.gif

  791. Darkeh
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 22:04:34

    QUOTE (komas @ Nov 12 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Do you mean like a, b, c, d, etc?
    Those are different types of DIYs. Each one is a bit different, and some turn better than others.

    What are each letter? Like which is easiest to turn and hardest?

  792. komas
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 23:35:18

    As far as I know, as and ds are the best cubes, with b and c being so-so. I haven't tried e, f, or the second and third type as, so I'm not sure what they're like. I use a hybrid between d centers, a core, and Rubik's 2006 mold DIY pieces. It's not bad.

  793. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 01:57:20

    http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php...d_other_puzzles

    Well, just did an average of 12 without any warming up, and like I predicted, Im in the low 30s for a bit, but then started getting back into the rythm.

    Average: 27.80

    Fastest Time: 23.47
    Slowest Time: 34.75
    Standard Deviation: 02.81

    Individual Times:
    1) 32.08 U2 R' B' D2 F2 R' L D' L U2 B2 D2 L' F R' L F' R' U2 R2 U' L F U' B2
    2) (34.75) F2 B' D L2 B2 F' R' L' D F' U R2 D F' R' F2 R F U' B2 R' L B' U' D'
    3) 32.93 D' B F' R F2 B L2 F B L' F' B' D L F2 U' B2 D2 L' B D2 U R' U2 L
    4) 26.58 F U F2 L' U F B U' R' B' L R U2 R2 B F2 R B F2 R B' U' L D U2
    5) 24.66 D' B2 U' L' U' B2 F2 L R' U2 L F2 U' F2 L' D' U B' L2 U D' F' U2 L F2
    6) 25.31 U' R D' L2 F B2 R' F' R2 U2 F L' D' L2 R' U' B L F2 L2 R2 U' F2 U2 L2
    7) 27.57 U' F' L' R U R' L2 U' B D U2 L B2 F' L B' U' B' U F' D' B2 L2 U D
    8) (23.47) L2 R F' R F2 B L' D L' R F B D R' L U2 L' U' D' F' L R2 U' F2 L'
    9) 27.08 B F2 D' F B' D2 F' R2 D' L' R F2 L B U' F' D2 U R2 D U' R2 U2 L' D
    10) 27.68 D2 U' B2 F D2 L' D U' R D' R L2 U2 D' R' F' U R' F' D' L' D B D R'
    11) 25.18 B F R' B2 D B2 U' F U L2 F D L' F2 R B' R B R2 D L2 D L R' B2
    12) 28.98 D L F2 D' L' F2 D R U F2 L' F' R' B R' U' D' B' D2 R2 B2 U' L2 B D'

  794. Fluke
    Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 20:58:17

    What's your best average of 12?

  795. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 21:57:08

    So far, 26.06. I kinda cheated a bit though, so Ill go with my 26.16.
    Not like theres a big difference there. In the first one I took out a 30 second solve tongue.gif

  796. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 04:05:23

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 14 2008, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So far, 26.06. I kinda cheated a bit though, so Ill go with my 26.16.
    Not like theres a big difference there. In the first one I took out a 30 second solve tongue.gif

    lol I do that to if I mess up on OLL, PLL Cross... pretty much anywhere if I execute incorrectly (I normall still do F2L even if I screw up, don't ask me why lol

  797. Rarka
    Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 15:46:32

    OMG!

    Statistics for 11-15-2008 16:44:35

    Average: 43,60
    Standard Deviation: 4,42
    Best Time: 31,52
    Worst Time: 49,59
    Individual Times:
    1. 35,06 (LL skip) L2 B L2 B2 D' B' F2 R2 D2 B F' L' R U' B' F2 L2 R2 B F' D2 L2 R2 B2 D'
    2. 49,08 B' F2 L2 R2 F L U' L R2 D' B2 F' L2 R D' U' F' L R' U2 L2 D U' L' R2
    3. 42,33 B2 F' U' B F' U B D' U2 L2 R F2 D R' D U R2 B F' D B' L R2 B F
    4. 36,84 D' R2 U2 B2 F' L' R2 D' U B D U L B' D2 F L2 U' L D L' R D U L
    5. 46,05 D R2 B F L B F2 R' B R2 D' R B2 F' U' L' U L2 B2 F2 L R2 D' U2 R
    6. 47,86 U' F R' B2 F2 L2 D2 U2 L2 R2 B D L F' L' F R2 B L U' R' B F2 L' D
    7. 45,75 B2 F2 L2 B2 D' B F D' B' L D2 F' R U' L R B U' L' B' F2 D U2 F' L2
    8. 41,30 D2 U B2 R2 D L' U' B L B2 F2 U' F' D U' L' R B2 F' R D2 U' B2 F' U2
    9. 45,45 F' D' L2 B L R' U L' R' B2 F L' D U B' L2 B R2 B' F' R B2 F2 D2 U2
    10. 46,28 L2 R2 B2 F D' U' B F2 D L B2 F' L D B F2 L2 R2 D U B' F2 L D L
    11. (49,59) R' D R' B2 F2 U B' F' L R' D U2 B F2 D L2 D U2 R D L' R2 B F2 R'
    12. (31,52) (without any skips!!!) D U F2 R B U2 B2 R2 D2 U B F' U L2 R B2 F' L' R' D2 U L F2 L' R2


    Wow, I'm so proud... Trying to beat 30s now, it will be so hard...

  798. Eric
    Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 16:09:59

    QUOTE (wizwarezx @ Nov 13 2008, 06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    some stuff we did during a small gathering. And thats totally not me...=p


    if that keything hanging out of his pocket gets caught in his bike's backwheels *ouch*

    nice though biggrin.gif

  799. Rarka
    Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 21:50:54

    http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=cm8hiPcHYH8

    My 34s-long solving. Lol, it looks terrible and extremly slow there... I'm getting nervous when I have to record something :/

  800. sangara
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 02:03:40

    w00t got my diy cube today, type a. And now I know why people use them, insanely fast right out of the box.

  801. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 02:43:33

    I got bored and decided to record two random solves. First is DIY, second is Rubiks. Using LBL. No scrambles, sorry. sad.gif I'll remember to put them into the video next time.




    Tell me if I should move on to a more complicated method or keep using LBL.

  802. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 04:13:26

    Fridrich is faster. Its undeniable, i use the intuitive method and im down under a minute. I dont do F2l tho because i am terrible at looking ahead.

  803. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 04:17:08

    Comes with practice dude.
    I'm going to stick with my previous statements of people not really needing a DIY until their fingertricks are good enough to take advantage of the corner cutting and the cube smoothness. Of course, it is a very good practicing tool though, so I guess if you're used to it while learning a new method then all the better.

  804. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 06:08:58

    Thanks for the advice guys. I think I will stick with LBL until I can get 40s consistently.

  805. Rarka
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 10:24:26

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Nov 16 2008, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I think I will stick with LBL until I can get 40s consistently.


    I don't think it's a good idea. I advice (and a lot of better people who teach me) to learn Fridrich's F2L as fast as possible, and try to mix LBL method with some parts of Fridrich metod (first learn intuitive F2L, from badmephisto's tutorial). First few days of practising it you will get times like... 5-10 minutes, but one week of practising and new F2L will be faster than the previous one.
    Later you can learn 2-look oll and 2-look pll: http://student.agh.edu.pl/~piwilk/EO_CO_i_PLL.doc (some words are in polish, but notation and picture are good).
    Sorry for bad english :/
    And my best avg of 5 : 37.80 smile.gif

    Edit: You don't have to learn all PLLs, 6-8 PLLs are enough to solve all cases (or almost all) in two times. First learn U, A, T, Y, H, maybe Z, J. G permutations look strange, but they are a mix of A and U, so you don't have to learn them.

  806. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 15:25:09

    I agree, it is probably a good idea to switch over to a quicker method from LBL sooner than later.
    I think I switched over to intuitive F2l when I was at around 2 minutes, it helped me pick up fingertricks a lot quicker and easier.

  807. MatthewK206
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 18:02:06

    So I just got a DIY cube for the first time the other day
    And it's kind of motivated me to get back into speed cubing biggrin.gif

    My fastest time before was 46 point something seconds before.
    and then when I got my DIY cube, my times had dropped to an average of like 1:10 ]=

    But
    I've been bringing it back up.
    and I've got a new fastest time biggrin.gif
    42.85 biggrin.gif

  808. sangara
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 22:16:15

    So I had to re-learn LBL and my averages of 5 have been around 1:35. But I think instead of using the Frindich I'm going to go with Petrus Method instead for some reason it's more appealing to me. So once my solves get to around a 1 min average I'm gonna start learning the Petrus.

    I can't stop cubing biggrin.gif

    EDIT:
    ----- JNetCube Session Statistics for Sun Nov 16 14:46:53 PST 2008 -----

    Cubes Solved: 5
    Total Pops: 0
    Average: 1:35.79

    Fastest Time: 1:29.26
    Slowest Time: 1:45.50
    Standard Deviation: 06.65

    Individual Times:
    1) 1:37.85 B U' R F2 B' D U2 B F' R F' R2 L F' L' D' L' B2 R' F2 L D2 B2 F' U2
    2) 1:36.48 R' D L R2 B U R L U2 B' F L2 D2 B D2 U' R' D' B2 F' U' D' L D U'
    3) 1:45.50 U F2 L F2 U F' B2 R' D F L U' L2 R U B L B2 D R2 L2 F L F U
    4) 1:29.26 L D2 R' F2 L U F2 D B' U' B2 R' L U2 D' F2 L2 F B2 D2 U L2 B2 L2 R'
    5) 1:29.85 U' L' D F' L U2 F D' L2 R' B' R2 B2 U B' L F' B2 D R' B U' F B D2

    yay my 1:35 average is standing

  809. Darkeh
    Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 22:38:47

    Is anyone here good w/ Petrus? I don't know a fast way to finish F2L (last 6 pieces) I really get slowed down on that part

  810. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 01:16:21

    HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

    I just got 36 seconds LBL...WITH NO STEP SKIPS!!!

    ...still too lazy to learn F2L. I think I might go with petrus or something...

  811. Mr.Squekers
    Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 01:42:42

    Sweet nate! but you didnt get it on camera? D:

    Im going to start cubing as soon as i get one XD

  812. Huroni
    Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 01:43:48

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Nov 16 2008, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

    I just got 36 seconds LBL...WITH NO STEP SKIPS!!!

    ...still too lazy to learn F2L. I think I might go with petrus or something...

    '


    I WANT DIY.

  813. TRoc
    Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 01:46:11

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Nov 16 2008, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

    I just got 36 seconds LBL...WITH NO STEP SKIPS!!!

    ...still too lazy to learn F2L. I think I might go with petrus or something...

    Going to petrus is not really easier than F2l. F2L is not anthing special that needs special memorization to learn. It's really just intuition. If you fully underdstand what is going on in the first two layers in LBL, than F2L shouldn't be very hard.
    I don't like petrus.

  814. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 02:30:46

    It's a good idea to just try out a bunch of different methods to see what you like.
    Some people like block building so Petrux or Roux is better for them. Fridrich is just more popular because it is a lot easier to understand.

  815. Fripâ„¢
    Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 03:36:16

    I just solved my cube for the first time today! happyy.gif
    Now I'll get it consistant.... then I'll tyry to get under 2 mins...then I'll learn a new method.

  816. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 06:52:40

    hay, TT:

    I'm practising roux more now. looks promising tongue.gif Hopefully I'll get a sub 45 avg. by the end of the week. Maybe even sub 40 if I'm lucky

  817. sangara
    Date: Tue, Nov 18 2008 03:14:40

    Cubes Solved: 7
    Total Pops: 1
    Average: 1:21.52

    Fastest Time: 1:00.68
    Slowest Time: 1:53.94
    Standard Deviation: 17.00

    Individual Times:
    1) 1:53.94 R L2 U B2 L' U2 D2 F' U F2 R' F2 B U' B' U' B2 U2 D' L' D' R D L U
    2) 1:20.06 L B2 U L' D2 F R B2 D' U2 R D' U B U F' B U2 F' R2 D L D F' U
    3) 1:23.48 B' L F B' R L' F2 U L B2 L2 R B2 F' R F' B' U' L' F' R L2 D B2 L'
    4) 1:09.60 L R2 B2 F2 D F' B2 U' R' L' U' R' U' L' F' U2 R2 D2 R L2 U2 F2 R' F2 U'
    5) 1:28.49 D2 F R F' R2 D2 L B' D R' D R2 L D2 U B2 R2 F R B2 R' F' U2 D B2
    6) 1:14.37 R' U2 R2 F2 L2 D R F' L F' L F' D F B2 R2 D R' L2 D' F' U2 R2 F' D'
    7) 1:00.68 U L2 R2 B U' D B' U' B R' F R D B2 F' R2 L2 U' R' F R' D' L2 F L2

    OK so I did this, this morning and got my fastest LBL solve with out skips ever. So with my average coming down rather quickly I'm getting bored with LBL, so I've decided to just go ahead and learn the Petrus method. I figure I wont be fast for a while, but eh I'd rather be slow than bored.

  818. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Nov 18 2008 03:33:19

    I was solving before one of my lectures today, and this guy started talking to me about cubing. Then one of is friends came over and he was like, "yeah he can solve it in 15 seconds!"







    cool.gif

  819. Nolan
    Date: Tue, Nov 18 2008 20:49:07

    If possible, could someone provide me with a breakdown of the moves(like R U' B2 U L') for Layer by Layer?

    Or just direct me to a site where I can learn from?

    thanks.

  820. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Nov 18 2008 21:06:31

    QUOTE (Nolan @ Nov 18 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If possible, could someone provide me with a breakdown of the moves(like R U' B2 U L') for Layer by Layer?

    Or just direct me to a site where I can learn from?

    thanks.


    ok, I might not have time to write it all but you can practise the first part. The problem is that I have to write this while in a scool lesson >.>

    1. Make a cross on the BOTTOM (this will help over time). Make sure that the edges are actually in the correct place, not just on th white face. They have to have white facing down (If you do a white cross) and if it was a white/red edge the white would be touching white and the red part touching red. This is INTUITIVE!!!!!!

    2.Now you have to put in the corners.
    Obviously all the corners you are going to put in have white if you did a white cross. so now You'll learn your first algs. First place the corner on top of where it needs to go (make sure that the empty slot where it needs to go is The Bottom,Front,Right!!!!!!). Now you have your first algs:

    If the white is facing up, then do the alg:
    R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U'
    tHIS IS FAST AND CAN BE DONE IN LESS THAN 1sec *****Caps***** >.>

    If the white is Clockwise from facing up then use:
    R U R'

    And if it is facing anti-clockwise from facing up, then do:
    U R U' R'

    With enough practise, you could do the first face in EAISILY under 10secs. Make sure that you put all the corners in the correct place though. Instede of thinking "I've done a face" Think along the lines of "I've done a layer"

    Now you must think "I need to do the second layer"

  821. Gavin
    Date: Tue, Nov 18 2008 21:45:36

    QUOTE (l33tPi @ Nov 9 2008, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    no there isn't


    Ummm Eastsheen are almost exactly the same size, how do you not know that after 1 yr.

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Nov 15 2008, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I got bored and decided to record two random solves. First is DIY, second is Rubiks. Using LBL. No scrambles, sorry. sad.gif I'll remember to put them into the video next time.



    Tell me if I should move on to a more complicated method or keep using LBL.


    Learn OLL and PLL 1st, then move to fredrich.

  822. sangara
    Date: Tue, Nov 18 2008 23:45:48

    Learning Petrus, it's so awesome, I looked up the Fridrich method and it just seemed boring to me. So like I said I'd be learning Petrus as of right now I'm working on the expansion of 2x2x2 to 2x2x3 it takes me about 2 minutes to get to the 2x2x3 but I just started seriously learning it last night. I am however, having trouble in getting Corner-Edge Pairs in the beginning, any tips on how to make these pairs fast if you aren't starting with any?

  823. T-roy
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 03:50:02

    cubing is awesome XD

  824. Fluke
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 05:32:24

    QUOTE (sangara @ Nov 18 2008, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Learning Petrus, it's so awesome, I looked up the Fridrich method and it just seemed boring to me. So like I said I'd be learning Petrus as of right now I'm working on the expansion of 2x2x2 to 2x2x3 it takes me about 2 minutes to get to the 2x2x3 but I just started seriously learning it last night. I am however, having trouble in getting Corner-Edge Pairs in the beginning, any tips on how to make these pairs fast if you aren't starting with any?

    nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

    ROUX FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It's just a better version of petrus which involves a lot of fat turning and easy recognition. I might move to roux (getting like 1:05 avg. with it tongue.gif) I recon it's faster (in time) and it has less algs then Fridrich

    http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Intro.html
    phew.gif
    Do it I say (this is coming for a sub 19sec cuber grin.gif

  825. sangara
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 06:13:05

    But Petrus is so awesome, so I'm going to stick with it, I'll learn Roux after I learn Petrus, deal?

  826. nateiskewl
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 06:22:54

    Agreed. Sangara and I are kinda learning Petrus together and I really like how there's such little algorithm memorization, but more pattern memorization.

  827. Fluke
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 07:41:19

    Cool then smile.gif

    I'll challenge TurbulentTurtle to see who can get sub 30 with Roux first. I'll post my avg. for today with roux biggrin.gif


    F**K!!!!

    I lost the average.... My computer screwed up sad.gif

    It was 47.60 though biggrin.gif

  828. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 12:16:10

    You do realize I havent been practicing Roux yet, right?
    I experimented with orienting the edges the other day, but that's it.

  829. sangara
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 17:56:34

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 19 2008, 04:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You do realize I havent been practicing Roux yet, right?
    I experimented with orienting the edges the other day, but that's it.


    pwned


    Anyway I'm starting to work on the "Bad Edges" stage, it was really hard to break from the keyhole method >.< .

  830. Fluke
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 18:27:25

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 19 2008, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You do realize I havent been practicing Roux yet, right?
    I experimented with orienting the edges the other day, but that's it.

    here's some advice that will help you a lot with EO
    if your U/D colour is poking out anywhere, fix it.
    All you have to do is memo the cases where it isn't M' U' M' and then do M' U' M' for the rest

  831. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 20:32:28

    QUOTE (sangara @ Nov 19 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    pwned

    How is it pwned when I havent practiced something... that doesnt even make any sense.
    Pwned, you havent practiced how to re-enact the entire LOTR trilogy with sock puppets, on your feet.

  832. sangara
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 23:42:33

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 19 2008, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How is it pwned when I havent practiced something... that doesnt even make any sense.
    Pwned, you havent practiced how to re-enact the entire LOTR trilogy with sock puppets, on your feet.


    I was saying he was practicing for nothing if you weren't practicing.

  833. Jtrophy
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 00:45:41

    im not good at rubix cubing but my friend is and he is only in 7th grade. isnt there a formula or something to solve rubix cubes? o.O?

  834. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 01:45:59

    Rubik's Cube is the proper spelling. God is it annoying to see Rubix cube. I dont use the apostrophe all the time tho.

  835. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 01:49:19

    QUOTE (Jtrophy @ Nov 19 2008, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    im not good at rubix cubing but my friend is and he is only in 7th grade. isnt there a formula or something to solve rubix cubes? o.O?

    There are different methods to solving it. Some more intuitive than others.

  836. Gavin
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 02:04:18

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Nov 19 2008, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Rubik's Cube is the proper spelling. God is it annoying to see Rubix cube. I dont use the apostrophe all the time tho.


    I feel the same way.


    As for the "Formula" thing, it doesn't hurt to look 2 or 3 post above yours.

  837. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 02:42:32

    QUOTE (sangara @ Nov 19 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I was saying he was practicing for nothing if you weren't practicing.

    I wasn't trying to get better than him but then I say your post about you 2 practising petrus together so I thought the same. sooooo.....

    PWNED!!!!!!!!

  838. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 13:10:59

    Wow, I realized last night how sloppy I had become from not practicing for so long.
    Overturning, amateur mistakes, I even did a U4 during last layer for one solve... sleep(1).gif

  839. sangara
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 18:36:23

    Learning Petrus is going pretty well, I can now finish the first 2 layers easily, now I just got to learn some new last layer algorithms happy.gif .

  840. Darkeh
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 00:31:58

    I got my new best time with Petrus, 1:27, but I still get messed up with finishing the 2x2x3 dry.gif

  841. sangara
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 02:02:32

    I wish I could be that good with petrus... I always have trouble on the last edge piece for the F2L

  842. Fluke
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 03:31:07

    QUOTE (sangara @ Nov 20 2008, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Learning Petrus is going pretty well, I can now finish the first 2 layers easily, now I just got to learn some new last layer algorithms happy.gif .



    OMG WTF!!!!!!!!! I just posted a msg. that took like 20mins to type.... BUT I HADN'T F***ING LOGGED ON ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ( cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

    Sorry if it seems to short but I'm really F**KING pissed now sad.gif

    Learn all of the cross OLL algs http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/OLL

    Then My version for a realitivly (4secs) fast PLL if you don't want to learn all 21 is this (you can learn 21 later)

    CORNES
    Play with them to see what they do

    T-perm: R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' (2 corner solver)

    Y-perm: F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' (diagonal swap)

    with them you can do CPLL in one alg. now onto EPLL

    EDGES

    Ua: R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R (3 edges CW)

    Ub: R' U R' U' R' U' R' U R U R2 (3 edges CCW)

    H: M2 U' M2 U2' M2 U' M2 (opp. edges)
    note: I execute as
    QUOTE
    R2' r2 U' r2 R2' U2 R2' r2 U' r2 R2'


    Z: U R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R' U





    DONE wow, only tokk to executions to do PLL.... Now onto learning the rest >.<

    First learn that PLL stuff, then learn the cross OLL's

  843. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Nov 22 2008 05:48:08

    roux avg. of 12... It's getting good biggrin.gif

    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Sat Nov 22 18:46:01 NZDT 2008 -----

    Average: 40.70

    Fastest Time: 23.67
    Slowest Time: 54.66
    Standard Deviation: 07.92

    Individual Times:
    1) 33.75 B R U L F' D L2 R D F B' L B2 U F2 U2 D2 R B' U' F R2 U2 R U2
    2) 27.83 U D2 F D2 F B2 L2 D F' U R B D2 R U' F R' L2 F B' D' U2 B D L'
    3) 40.42 R B' L2 R D2 R2 U2 F U' L2 F R B2 D2 U F' R2 B' U' D' R B2 R D R'
    4) 31.50 F' R L' D2 R F2 D' R2 U2 F2 R F2 R' D' F' D2 R U2 D' L' B' L' D2 B2 D
    5) 49.84 D2 R' U' F' D2 U L B U2 F U' D' F2 D2 F D2 F' D2 L B F U D F' L'
    6) 47.22 F2 D2 R' B' F' U D2 R' B L R2 U2 B2 D2 U2 L2 U2 F L B' U L2 D' L2 U2
    7) 45.47 F' L2 F U' D' R2 D' U' L R2 D' F2 D B D U F U' R B' D U' R' F2 D
    8) (54.66) F U B' D' L' U2 F U2 D' L' D2 F2 R2 D2 U' R2 F2 D L U D2 B2 R L' B2
    9) 37.52 L' D2 F U R' F2 U B2 R2 F B R2 D F L B' D2 F2 R' F' U2 F2 R2 D L
    10) 50.92 R' B F2 L B' D2 L2 U' L' B' L U2 B2 R2 U' F2 D U R' F U2 F' D F2 R'
    11) (23.67) L' F' R L U L2 D' F' U F D' B' F2 D' U2 R' L F D2 B U2 B L2 B F2
    12) 42.48 R D' B2 L' U2 D' F2 L' D F' R' F2 B' D L' R' B2 U' L2 R B F' R'


    sub 40 this weekend smile.gif

  844. Rarka
    Date: Sat, Nov 22 2008 12:54:12

    Yay!!!!!



    Statistics for 11-22-2008 13:58:37

    Average: 37,69
    Standard Deviation: 3,01
    Best Time: 29,06
    Worst Time: 43,80
    Individual Times:
    1. (43,80) L B' F L F2 D2 B R2 B R' B2 D' U' L' R' F2 D' U' L2 D2 U F R' D2 R
    2. 41,30 D2 U B F U L' B' D' U B' L' R2 D2 U' L2 D2 F D B F' D U' L B' D
    3. 37,84 F' R B2 F2 L R2 F2 D2 U L2 U2 F' U' B L B F2 U F2 D' B' L' R B U
    4. (29,06) OMG new PB first sub30! L2 R B D2 L R2 B2 F' D' R' F2 L' R D' L2 R' B L R2 F R' B' F2 L U
    5. 33,92 F2 R2 B2 F' U2 L R2 D B2 L2 B2 L' R2 D2 U L' B2 F' D' R B D' U F D2


    Without any skips, 29.06 is full solve, cross in 6 moves, easy slots, two olls, U perm.

    And new best avg of 12, 41.58.

    Learning last PLLs, in few days I should know all of them.

    BTW, my friend made this:
    http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/823/csssyesc2.png :]

    Fluke, 23.67 looks nice:) I see Roux is pretty good.

  845. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Nov 22 2008 13:08:44

    Did a couple averages of 12 last night, and as expected my times have severely increased due to lack of practice.
    School, assignments, exams, and I bought a new game for my DS.
    The first average of 12 I really rushed every single solve, made dumb mistakes, couldnt even do F2L anywhere close to the time it used to take me (I used to finish at around 15 seconds but it was hovering at 20 seconds when I finished), and just tried to do it too quick. Overturning and what not.
    The second average of 12 went a lot better though:

    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Fri Nov 21 22:49:11 EST 2008 -----

    Average: 26.33

    Fastest Time: 20.44
    Slowest Time: 31.30
    Standard Deviation: 01.77

    Individual Times:
    1) 28.64 B D' U2 B2 U' R2 B' L' U2 D R D2 U L' D' B' R B2 U2 R U' F' B' U2 B'
    2) 25.21 U' D2 B L' F B' L2 F D2 F2 U' B D' R' F U2 B2 R2 B' U2 D' B' F L R'
    3) (31.30) U' B U' D B2 D B F2 U2 D2 L R U R' U2 R L' D2 L D2 U2 F' B D L
    4) 27.50 F L2 F B2 U2 L' D' F2 U' L' R2 D2 R B U' D F2 L D2 R' B' U' D L2 U'
    5) 24.76 B2 L2 D2 L' D2 R2 F' D' F' B D' L2 F D' B2 U' F R2 L' U L' U' F' U D
    6) 23.64 B2 R2 F L2 D' F2 B' R2 L U2 F2 U D' R L' B2 U D F L' D' L' D' F D
    7) 26.84 L B2 U' B2 U R' U2 R' L D' R2 D' R B2 U' R U F2 B2 U2 R2 L' F' R D
    8) 26.97 R F2 B' D' R2 L2 D F U' B R' B F U B2 U D2 F2 D2 F U' R' F' D' B'
    9) (20.44) L' U F R' U2 L2 F' L' B L B2 D F' U' D R' L' B' F2 R' B' L' D' L' B2
    10) 27.67 U R' U2 L2 R2 B' D F2 L B2 R2 B' F' R2 L D2 U2 R2 L' U L' B2 L2 U2 F2
    11) 28.01 L' B U' D' L B' R' L D' L U D2 L2 R F' R2 F2 B U' R F' R2 L' U2 B
    12) 24.02 B L D2 F' L B F2 D2 U2 R2 D2 U F' L' R' D B' R D' R F2 B' U' L F'

    That 31.30 still bugs me though, but oh well. I just have to remember to take it easy, slow down and not rush each F2L pairing so as to make unnecessary mistakes.

  846. Fluke
    Date: Sat, Nov 22 2008 23:35:09

    o.O getting good TT
    and O.O sub 30 rarka!!! work on look ahead is what I can say (from when I was at your stage with Fridrich)

  847. Darkeh
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 03:00:37

    Is there an easier way to learn than Petrus to finish f2l? I've never done it in less than 50 secs...

  848. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 03:25:20

    ^^ Yup something like fridrich is eaisier to understand yet in the long term Block building > Slots
    block building save moves, has more opportunities and can lead onto eaiser LL's then the "slot" method eg:
    1x2x3/opp. 1x2x3/CMLL/edges > cross/F2L/OLL/PLL

    going for an avg. of 100 now to see how good I actually am with roux O.O

    avg. 30 (I got bored tongue.gif)

    30: 00:32.63
    29: 00:40.23
    28: 00:45.37
    27: 00:35.34
    26: 00:41.76
    25: 00:23.63
    24: 00:42.86
    23: 00:42.76
    22: 00:32.42
    21: 00:42.88
    20: 00:39.90
    19: 00:45.93
    18: 00:34.48
    17: 00:31.98
    16: 00:42.95
    15: 00:43.49
    14: 00:42.94
    13: 00:31.46
    12: 00:47.60
    11: 00:28.88
    10: 00:42.93
    9: 00:38.63
    8: 00:32.15
    7: 00:32.39
    6: 00:45.74
    5: 00:45.65
    4: 00:37.49
    3: 00:34.00
    2: 00:38.14
    1: 00:35.24

    avg = 38.39

    Yay sub 40

    I might be able to get sub 35 avg. of 12 by Friday smile.gif

  849. komas
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 07:05:08

    Woooo!!!!!!!

    16 average in competition today! http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/result...hp?i=2007WATA02

    Also, PB in competition of 13.90!
    So happy biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

  850. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 09:50:18

    Is Petrus a form of F2L aswell?

  851. komas
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 15:30:36

    Yes, and it has a step for edge control so that you only need to know 7 oll algorithms.

  852. Rarka
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 16:21:07

    Okay, finally ma first avg sub 40 smile.gif

    Statistics for 11-23-2008 17:20:30

    Average: 38,53
    Standard Deviation: 1,66
    Best Time: 35,91
    Worst Time: 45,34
    Individual Times:
    1. 39,64 L B F L B2 F' U2 L D' L' B2 D' U' B2 F L2 R2 B L' R F' D2 L' B L
    2. 36,05 B2 L2 F U' B D' U B2 L' B R2 F L' R D B F' D B U' L' D B2 F2 D'
    3. 37,24 B' L2 B' F L' F' D U2 L' D L2 R2 D U' B2 L2 B' L' R D2 L2 R F' R' D2
    4. 38,73 L B' F2 R' U L' U' L D' B' L2 R' B F D U R' D L R' D2 B2 D' F' U'
    5. 38,45 U' B R' B F' D' U' L' U' L R' B2 F' L' R' F R' F2 D' B' D2 U L2 F2 D2
    6. 39,25 F2 L2 B F' D' F L' R F L' F' R2 D' U2 R2 B D L2 R2 B' F' L R2 F L
    7. 36,70 B F2 U' R2 B' F2 U' L' R D2 U2 B2 L' R F U2 L2 D2 B R2 U' F U L' R'
    8. 42,14 F U' B' F D' B2 L' D2 R U' B' L F2 D' B2 F U B' F' R' B F' L B F2
    9. 39,48 B F D B' F2 L' R' F R' B' R' B2 F2 D U B' U' F2 U2 F' R F2 L D L'
    10. (35,91) B F R2 D F2 D' B2 F D R' D2 R D' U R' D' F2 R' B' L' D2 U B D L'
    11. (45,34) D2 B L2 R2 U' R D2 L R2 D' B' U2 B F' U2 B U' F D' L2 B2 R' D2 R U'
    12. 37,64 B F2 R2 F L' D' U B2 U' R2 D' U' B2 F2 D' U L B' L' D2 U' L2 R2 B' R'

  853. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 18:05:07

    QUOTE (Rarka @ Nov 23 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Okay, finally ma first avg sub 40 smile.gif

    Statistics for 11-23-2008 17:20:30

    Average: 38,53
    Standard Deviation: 1,66
    Best Time: 35,91
    Worst Time: 45,34
    Individual Times:
    1. 39,64 L B F L B2 F' U2 L D' L' B2 D' U' B2 F L2 R2 B L' R F' D2 L' B L
    2. 36,05 B2 L2 F U' B D' U B2 L' B R2 F L' R D B F' D B U' L' D B2 F2 D'
    3. 37,24 B' L2 B' F L' F' D U2 L' D L2 R2 D U' B2 L2 B' L' R D2 L2 R F' R' D2
    4. 38,73 L B' F2 R' U L' U' L D' B' L2 R' B F D U R' D L R' D2 B2 D' F' U'
    5. 38,45 U' B R' B F' D' U' L' U' L R' B2 F' L' R' F R' F2 D' B' D2 U L2 F2 D2
    6. 39,25 F2 L2 B F' D' F L' R F L' F' R2 D' U2 R2 B D L2 R2 B' F' L R2 F L
    7. 36,70 B F2 U' R2 B' F2 U' L' R D2 U2 B2 L' R F U2 L2 D2 B R2 U' F U L' R'
    8. 42,14 F U' B' F D' B2 L' D2 R U' B' L F2 D' B2 F U B' F' R' B F' L B F2
    9. 39,48 B F D B' F2 L' R' F R' B' R' B2 F2 D U B' U' F2 U2 F' R F2 L D L'
    10. (35,91) B F R2 D F2 D' B2 F D R' D2 R D' U R' D' F2 R' B' L' D2 U B D L'
    11. (45,34) D2 B L2 R2 U' R D2 L R2 D' B' U2 B F' U2 B U' F D' L2 B2 R' D2 R U'
    12. 37,64 B F2 R2 F L' D' U B2 U' R2 D' U' B2 F2 D' U L B' L' D2 U' L2 R2 B' R'


    >.>-----------------------------------------------<.<
    me giving you the evil's...................................
    Looks like there's some competition going on between me with roux and you with your method......
    lol
    BTW I did a sub 36 avg. of 12 smile.gif

  854. Rarka
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 19:37:59

    Cool ;d How long have you been cubing?
    And I use Fridrich method.

  855. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 23:04:18

    Welp, I recorded a 25.xx average of 12 today, but didn't save the time because I am awesome.
    Everything was fine and dandy until the elephant came and beat me over the head with its tree trunk and I got a 36.something or other.

  856. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 02:51:50

    QUOTE (Rarka @ Nov 23 2008, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Cool ;d How long have you been cubing?
    And I use Fridrich method.

    like 10 or 11 months
    I used to, but I'm game for something new (A.K.A roux)
    I average 18secs with Fridrich though tongue.gif

    @ TT: o.O you really are awesome...... 25 sec avg. *high fives*

  857. l33tPi
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 03:55:25

    new average : 27seconds XD
    new record: 19 seconds XP

  858. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 04:07:10

    Got a new Rubik's today. Luckily I got a REALLY good one. I can move each layer with one finger very fast. I lubed it and it's perfect now. <333 It's also really loose.

  859. l33tPi
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 04:22:03

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Nov 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Got a new Rubik's today. Luckily I got a REALLY good one. I can move each layer with one finger very fast. I lubed it and it's perfect now. <333 It's also really loose.

    lucky, once i got a cube and i turned one of the layers and the center piece broke off >.<

  860. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 05:39:43

    haha:)

  861. l33tPi
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 05:53:02

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Nov 23 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    haha:)

    pshhh..... wal-mart sucks i get my cubs from k-mart XD i got my 4x4 there and it is perfect!!! xp

  862. Rarka
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 15:34:35

    /me is pro ;d

    Statistics for 11-24-2008 16:32:49

    Average: 35,85
    Standard Deviation: 3,19
    Best Time: 25,33
    Worst Time: 43,16
    Individual Times:
    1. 37,55 B' F D' U2 L R B L' R' B' U2 L2 D2 U' L' R' B' F' D' F U2 L' R' B R2
    2. (25,33) D U' B2 F2 U2 L' U B' F' D2 U2 R2 B F' U B' L2 D2 R2 D2 U L' D2 U2 F Yay, new PB ! quite easy f2l, two olls, U perm.
    3. 38,89 F2 D' L U B' F L' F L' B2 F U F D2 U L R2 D2 B2 R2 D2 U' L2 R2 F
    4. 38,56 F D U2 B2 U' B' U2 L2 R2 B2 F' R' B F' L2 R2 F' L R' B F2 L2 B R2 F'
    5. 36,45 U' L' R B2 F' L' B2 F L' D2 U L R U B' F2 R' D2 U2 L2 R2 D B F L2
    6. 37,75 U R U' B F L2 B2 D2 U' L' R B2 L2 U B F2 L' D U' B' F' D' U B2 F2
    7. (43,16) R2 B L R D' L D U L' R D' U L' B' U2 F' R' B2 F2 R' F' D2 U' L' B2
    8. 32,42 B F' D L2 R' D2 L D U F D2 F' R D U' B' R' D U' L D B' D L' R
    9. 35,36 B2 F' D U' B' D' U' B' D' U2 F2 U2 B' F2 R' D2 U' L2 R2 U B' F2 L' R2 U2
    10. 36,06 D2 U L' B' F' D' U B F2 D2 U' B2 D R' F L2 R2 D U L2 R2 F' R B2 F
    11. 37,58 B' L2 D U' B2 L2 F U R' D L2 F2 L2 R' F' L R' D' L R F L' F' L' R2
    12. 27,89 R D2 F' D U R D U B F L' R D2 R2 D2 U B2 R2 B2 F' L R2 F' U2 B' PLL Skip

  863. Darkeh
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 16:29:04

    I got 1:13 my best yet, but skipped the last step :x
    What are the breakdowns for each part that you do?
    Like you finish f2l in what time?

    And what time you use to record these averages?

  864. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 17:31:28

    I memorized all the LL algs today. I really like not having to end in Ri Di R D. biggrin.gif

  865. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 18:19:10

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Nov 24 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I memorized all the LL algs today. I really like not having to end in Ri Di R D. biggrin.gif

    So OLL/PLL !?!?!?!
    one day O.O
    I guess you mean 4LLL
    BTW did you memo my 4LLL? It's a really fast one IMO

  866. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 18:49:01

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Nov 24 2008, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So OLL/PLL !?!?!?!
    one day O.O
    I guess you mean 4LLL
    BTW did you memo my 4LLL? It's a really fast one IMO


    No, I got the Petrus LL. I'm gonna stick with this for a while then maybe I'll learn 2 look.

  867. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 19:51:15

    Time breakdown for me, I guess would be:

    ~13-16 seconds for F2L, so... I guess 3-4 seconds for cross?

    - 3-4 seconds cross
    - 10-12 seconds F2L
    - 3-4 seconds OLL
    - 3-4 seconds PLL

    Then you got the extra time for screw-ups (there are a lot of them) and just recognition in general.
    After my calculus test tonight, I can probably practice a lot more. I'll ask my friend if I can order the cubes too.

  868. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 20:44:59

    Alright, so I timed myself for the first time with Petrus...I got 1:30.72. Alright, IMO. But it was a pretty easy scramble. :/

  869. MatthewK206
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 00:51:43

    I learned it on petrus, and my best time is 36 seconds now, but I'm learning intuitive friedrich, and my best time so far is like 50 seconds after about a week of serious practice.

  870. Fripâ„¢
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 04:21:37

    If you'd get a free cube off ebay...which one would you choose?
    (Tell mne a good cube from ebay smile.gif )

    The stickers of my cube are pealing off.. one is already off. >_>

  871. sangara
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 15:58:17

    QUOTE (Fripâ„¢ @ Nov 24 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If you'd get a free cube off ebay...which one would you choose?
    (Tell mne a good cube from ebay smile.gif )

    The stickers of my cube are pealing off.. one is already off. >_>


    Are you looking for a DIY?

  872. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 18:45:16

    >.> TurbulentTurtle: Your cross is better than mine but my F2L and PLL Pwn you... not that I ever use fridrich now smile.gif

    Avg. of 12 for steps:

    Cross:
    2.87

    Better than I thought tongue.gif

    F2L:

    8.79

    LOL is all I have to say

    OLL:
    coming soon

  873. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 18:48:28

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Nov 25 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    >.> TurbulentTurtle: Your cross is better than mine but my F2L and PLL Pwn you

    Well considering your time is quite a bit better than mine, and you have been cubing a lot longer than me, I am not surprised...

  874. Darkeh
    Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 04:13:19

    I finally got a sub 1 tongue.gif But it was so lucky so I'm not satisfied, I want a real one tongue.gif

  875. Floating Duck
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 00:05:10

    How many of you are color neutral?

    I'm trying to become color neutral and im failing.

  876. sangara
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 00:08:36

    QUOTE (Floating Duck @ Nov 26 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How many of you are color neutral?

    I'm trying to become color neutral and im failing.


    Learning Petrus made me become color neutral, now I just look for corner edge pairs.

    But I got my best time with Petrus 1:51 xD

  877. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 00:43:07

    Personally I think being colour neutral for Fridrich might be a bad idea, but I could see it being a real benefit for block building.
    If you're colour neutral for Fridrich then you spend way too much of your time looking at various different cross and corner/edge pairing cases at the beginning inspection than just looking at one colour that you're used to using.
    Of course, that is just what I think and there could be some pretty good points for being colour neutral.

  878. wizwarezx
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 01:46:32

    Well, if you can spot your pieces fast, then being colour neutral is good for you. But i don't think you would want to waste the 13s inspection time just to spot which colour cross is easier to solve. Hahas. smile.gif

  879. Floating Duck
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 02:46:35

    Yeah i use Fridrich because i've been to lazy to look up and learn roux, Petrus etc....

    But i want to start getting a 2x2x2 block, then doing the rest of the F2L and OLL/PLL

  880. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 02:56:12

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Nov 26 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Personally I think being colour neutral for Fridrich might be a bad idea, but I could see it being a real benefit for block building.
    If you're colour neutral for Fridrich then you spend way too much of your time looking at various different cross and corner/edge pairing cases at the beginning inspection than just looking at one colour that you're used to using.
    Of course, that is just what I think and there could be some pretty good points for being colour neutral.

    I'd have to disagree, duel cross works wonders! Too bad I'm not OPP. color neutral

  881. sangara
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 04:55:33

    Just a little LBL

    ----- JNetCube Session Statistics for Wed Nov 26 20:54:43 PST 2008 -----

    Cubes Solved: 6
    Total Pops: 0
    Average: 1:10.95

    Fastest Time: 59.12
    Slowest Time: 1:23.57
    Standard Deviation: 10.37

    Individual Times:
    1) 1:15.91 B2 U' L' U F2 L F2 U F2 U B2 D U F2 R2 B2 L R' B L2 F2 L U' D2 R
    2) 1:20.44 U2 L U R2 U' D' R' U D2 F' R' L2 D2 L2 U2 R' B2 F' L B F' R' D F2 U
    3) 1:01.35 F U R2 U2 D' R2 U' R' D2 U2 L F' D2 L' B2 R B' R B' L2 R' D2 F D' R'
    4) 1:23.57 F2 L U2 B R2 L U D2 F2 L' U' B R2 D' B' U' B D2 B2 D2 B2 F D' F' D
    5) 1:05.34 U' R2 B' F2 U' D' R' L2 F R U D2 F U' L' U' F2 B D2 R2 F2 B' R' B' R2
    6) 59.12 L2 U L2 D' F L2 B' L D2 L' R B R' L2 U2 L' U' R2 F U' B2 U' F' B' L

  882. nateiskewl
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 21:52:13

    New personal best w/ Petrus: 1:18.79

    biggrin.gif

  883. nateiskewl
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 18:14:44

    Ugh, I just got 1:20.41, but there were two unnecessary algs in there that I happen to be really slow at. I could have gotten a new best. sad.gif

    EDIT: and for Petrus users, I made a really easy Niklas sub. Hold the two correct pieces on the right and do R Ui Li U Ri Ui L U U. It's sooo much better than regular Niklas because there are no stupid back and forth B and F turns (which I just can't get).

  884. GoldStars
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 19:16:54

    i can solve 3x3 = 50 sec

    4x4= about 4 minutes lol

  885. Darkeh
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 02:40:14

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Nov 29 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ugh, I just got 1:20.41, but there were two unnecessary algs in there that I happen to be really slow at. I could have gotten a new best. sad.gif

    EDIT: and for Petrus users, I made a really easy Niklas sub. Hold the two correct pieces on the right and do R Ui Li U Ri Ui L U U. It's sooo much better than regular Niklas because there are no stupid back and forth B and F turns (which I just can't get).

    I can do the normal Niklas very easily :x i = counter clockwise?

  886. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 02:41:06

    QUOTE (Darkeh @ Nov 29 2008, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I can do the normal Niklas very easily :x i = counter clockwise?


    Ehh, whatever, I just hate back turns.

    Started learning 2-look. biggrin.gif

  887. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 03:35:37

    please guys....
    Instead of 1 use '
    so like instead of R Ui Ri
    Write as: R U' R'

  888. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 04:43:46

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Nov 29 2008, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    please guys....
    Instead of 1 use '
    so like instead of R Ui Ri
    Write as: R U' R'


    I'm just writing it as it is in the Rubik's booklet. They, after all, did invent it. tongue.gif

  889. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 08:03:11

    meh my fastest is still 46.25 with LBL dry.gif I can't do it faster anymore T_T I just get 46.30+ or something damn

  890. wizwarezx
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 09:18:44

    Try learning full pll.

    So, LBL + 2 OLL + PLL should get you to around sub 30....hahas

  891. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 14:47:22

    Writing ' is a lot easier to read than i in my opinion, also it's probably a lot more common as a notation. Not that there is anything wrong with either form though.
    So I started writing down all the OLL algorithms and taping them on my wall, I guess I can start with those now. Some of them are actually pretty easy and aren't too bad.

  892. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 16:44:12

    The PLLS are hard as hell! I looked them up on badmephisto's site (Hes like amazing with explaining stuff) and i must be retarted but some of the PLLs i try to do, and they dont work out. Half of them like mess up my cube entirely. And i have gotten like 36 with LBL, 2 OLL, 2 PLL, so i guess its a matter of how fast can you execute the OLLs and PLLs. And i do prefer the apostrophes over the I. Just easier to differentiate. R U Ri Ui, or R U R' U'? I mean the Is just mess with me.

  893. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 20:23:54

    PLLs aren't that bad dude, you just need to pick the ones that work for you the best and stick with them. I've used three different Y perms before reverting back to the second one I picked up as my main one. I hate the N perms I am currently using so I am going to be making a switch soon.

  894. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 02:30:30

    got a new PB avg. of 12.... I <3 Fridrich tongue.gif............. I need to learn OLL >.>

    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Sun Nov 30 21:29:40 NZDT 2008 -----

    Average: 18.24

    Fastest Time: 16.44
    Slowest Time: 19.61
    Standard Deviation: 00.82

    Individual Times:
    1) 17.94
    2) (16.44)
    3) 18.94
    4) (19.61)
    5) 17.75
    6) 19.44
    7) 17.20
    8) 18.20
    9) 18.92
    10) 18.64
    11) 18.53
    12) 16.86

    avg = 18.24

  895. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 04:31:40

    I just knocked down two OLLs today, I'll work on the rest after my finals are over with.
    These next couple of weeks are all about studying.

  896. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 06:59:31

    w00t!!!!!!!!!
    sub 17 average of 12! happyy.gif happyy.gif happyy.gif happyy.gif happyy.gif

    ----- JNetCube Best Average for Mon Dec 01 19:56:11 NZDT 2008 -----

    Average: 16.72

    Fastest Time: 14.39
    Slowest Time: 18.73
    Standard Deviation: 01.50

    Individual Times:
    1) 18.06 D B' L2 B' U2 D' L2 R2 D2 B' F2 L2 D B2 U2 B L U' D F2 R2 L' D' B R
    2) 14.50 F' L' B F' D' U' F' D' L2 B L D' F R' U' L2 D R2 U2 D R2 U2 F2 L2 U2
    3) 18.53 D U2 F' D2 L' B' R L2 U2 D B' L D2 U2 R' L' U L' F2 R2 L U L2 B2 L2
    4) (18.73) L' U R' F B D2 R L2 F2 B U L D B' R L F' L2 F D2 R2 D R2 U2 L
    5) 17.45 U' B D U2 B U2 R D' L' U2 D2 L2 D' U B2 R2 U B2 F' U D' F R U L'
    6) 16.41 D2 F R2 L U2 D2 B' F' U B' U' F' B2 L2 D B D' F' U' L B D B' L' R2
    7) (14.39) L R F2 R' D' F B L' R F2 L B2 R2 F L' U2 B L U R' D2 F' L B2 F2
    8) 15.98 F2 R2 D' L2 U B' L2 F' R' L U' L D2 B F2 L D R' B' U' L D' F2 D2 R2
    9) 18.28 D2 B' R D' U L' F2 U' R2 D2 R L2 D' B' F' U B R' D B2 F R2 B2 R2 F'
    10) 17.64 U' F2 B2 R U' D2 F B U2 L' U' F2 U2 R2 L U R F L2 F B2 U2 F2 L' R2
    11) 15.89 F' R B R2 F' U2 D R2 B D' U L' R D' L' R2 F R2 U B' F' L' R' D' R2
    12) 14.45 D2 L B2 D B' D2 R2 U F R2 D B2 L' R' U L' B' U F D2 U' B2 D' L2 D

    let me also metion that this is the best average in New Zealand!!!!
    Also the winner of NZ open (April 2009) will get sponsered to go to the worlds biggrin.gif
    hopefully I will be consistently sub 15 by then

    Average of 30 for each step now:

    Cross: 2.36
    F2L:
    OLL:
    PLL:

  897. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 05:18:03

    I learned 2 Look OLL and PLL in one and a half days. Someone give me a high five. biggrin.gif

  898. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 05:42:35

    It's only like, 7 algorithms dude. Come back when you pick up all PLLs and OLLs in one and a half days.

  899. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 05:55:08

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Dec 1 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    It's only like, 7 algorithms dude. Come back when you pick up all PLLs and OLLs in one and a half days.


    More like 14 algs. Also, I'm sorry I'm not some memorizing machine. I was asking for a high five because I did much better than I thought I would, not because I am good compared to you guys. sad.gif

  900. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 08:17:46

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Dec 2 2008, 01:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    More like 14 algs. Also, I'm sorry I'm not some memorizing machine. I was asking for a high five because I did much better than I thought I would, not because I am good compared to you guys. sad.gif

    Yea be kind to poor nate sad.gif
    thumb.gif
    now lets point and laugh mwhahahah
    pointlaugh.gif

  901. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 21:34:24

    WOOT A STORE AT MY MALL GOT 4x4s AND 5x5s AND I GOT EM BOTH!!! THEY ARE AMAZING! They are rubiks but i mean they are cool. I got the retooled 5x5.

  902. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 21:56:25

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Dec 1 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    More like 14 algs. Also, I'm sorry I'm not some memorizing machine. I was asking for a high five because I did much better than I thought I would, not because I am good compared to you guys. sad.gif

    Well what do you know, it IS 14. But a bunch of them you should know from before from solving it LBL. And I don't really count mirrored OLLs and PLLs as two different ones.

  903. MrData
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 22:04:03

    eh...
    I'm a bit better now...
    pb single: 18.42
    and I average around 27 seconds...

  904. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 22:55:12

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Dec 2 2008, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well what do you know, it IS 14. But a bunch of them you should know from before from solving it LBL. And I don't really count mirrored OLLs and PLLs as two different ones.


    Are you going to keep bashing me? I would expect more from a moderator.

  905. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 23:47:31

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Dec 2 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Are you going to keep bashing me? I would expect more from a moderator.

    Eh, I would too, but what can you do.


    And I guess telling you that solving LBL requires you to know some algorithms is bashing.

  906. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 23:50:28

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Dec 2 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Eh, I would too, but what can you do.


    And I guess telling you that solving LBL requires you to know some algorithms is bashing.


    You're discouraging me.

    And I just got my first sub 1 min Petrus solve. biggrin.gif

  907. Heyzeus
    Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 02:39:16

    1:04:45
    Fastest Time
    Noob Method

  908. Floating Duck
    Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 03:16:30

    It took me more then a week to learn the 2look OLL's and PLL's so good job Nate, and grats on the sub 1min.

  909. arthurrhodes
    Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 21:40:58

    quick question. When should I move on to more advanced solving methods? I'm like 2 minutes on lbl using keyhole method. Should I go ahead and learn a faster method now or wait?

  910. MrData
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 00:26:18

    QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Dec 3 2008, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    quick question. When should I move on to more advanced solving methods? I'm like 2 minutes on lbl using keyhole method. Should I go ahead and learn a faster method now or wait?

    You might want to practice more and get a little faster first, but you could always learn new things and add it to the method you already use.

  911. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 02:49:40

    yes you should learn something better!

    I suggest looking up Badmephisto on youtube and looking at his intuitive F2L videos. The sooner you learn that, the better

  912. arthurrhodes
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 03:00:47

    i looked at his videos, it was hard though. probably would have been like 10 minute solve times. sucks i have to unlearn what i have already learned

  913. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 03:40:23

    QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Dec 3 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i looked at his videos, it was hard though. probably would have been like 10 minute solve times. sucks i have to unlearn what i have already learned

    keep at it, in 1 or 2 weeks your F2L (first 2 layers) time will be faster.
    In the long term, this will defiantly serve you well and you'll be happy to of learnt it so early smile.gif

  914. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 12:25:14

    I Highly suggest badmephisto's tutorials. He explains them very well. The notation is simple and easy, and he teaches you intuitively how to use the fridrich method. I learned his method and im not too fast (cube is holding me back) and im down to like high 30s. If going from LBL to fridrich, wait till you are around a minute or so in LBL and then seek out fridrich.

    QUOTE
    i looked at his videos, it was hard though. probably would have been like 10 minute solve times. sucks i have to unlearn what i have already learned


    You don't really unlearn anything. Most of the stuff you learn in LBL still applies to fridrich and F2L.

  915. NitriX
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 13:14:58

    i can solve it best time 56 sec with the cross suloution

  916. nateiskewl
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 15:31:50

    QUOTE (NitriX @ Dec 4 2008, 05:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i can solve it best time 56 sec with the cross suloution


    Lol, there are lots of cross solutions...

  917. MrThomasBeckwith
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 15:54:18

    QUOTE ((ORLY)InhumanElmo @ Dec 4 2008, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I Highly suggest badmephisto's tutorials. He explains them very well. The notation is simple and easy, and he teaches you intuitively how to use the fridrich method. I learned his method and im not too fast (cube is holding me back) and im down to like high 30s. If going from LBL to fridrich, wait till you are around a minute or so in LBL and then seek out fridrich.



    You don't really unlearn anything. Most of the stuff you learn in LBL still applies to fridrich and F2L.


    wow. sub 30. u using OLLs and PLLs as well? or just f2l and the noob finish

  918. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 18:21:59

    QUOTE (MrThomasBeckwith @ Dec 4 2008, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    wow. sub 30. u using OLLs and PLLs as well? or just f2l and the noob finish

    IT wouldn't matter, he'll get beter in the long run anyway is he knows them.
    I've seen a person avg. 40's with VH....
    I've seen a person avg. 15 with 4LLL....

  919. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 20:17:13

    Looks like I will be stuck with storeboughts for the rest of my short life.

  920. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 21:14:45

    Im using 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL, i suck with F2l so i do lbl for that sleep(1).gif.
    Ive moved on to learning how to solve a 4x4 and a 5x5 and i must say they are SO FUN! I got so bored with the 3x3 and im sitting there with my 5x5 and its like when i first got my 3x3.

  921. arthurrhodes
    Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 12:48:13

    you guys solve times are amazing. Its nowhere close to you guys times but I got under 2 minutes last night 1:57:43. I only been seriously been cubing for a week. Now to get one minute

  922. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 20:06:08

    It's all about practicing and just learning some fingertricks that would be helpful in your regular solves.
    Even when I only knew how to solve it LBL, there were always cases that I would run into and after a while muscle memory kicked in and I developed some pretty good tricks for solving some parts.

  923. Stevieboy7
    Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 01:00:35

    Been cubing 2 days now..
    got my times down from 6:06.50 on the first day
    to an average of 3:09.73 (best time being: 2:20.47)
    im useing badphesto`s beginner method... works really well
    im hooked up with cubemania.org... same username, check me out,

    Anyone have any pointers or vids for actually being more efficient at manipulating the cube
    thanks.

  924. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 01:09:57

    ...Manipulating the cube...?
    I know Luke has posted up some videos in this thread, as have I.

    Here is the one I made for Inhuman a while back, to show him some of my crap fingertricks.


    And here is a random solve I did while we were out for a friend's birthday.

  925. Nolan
    Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 22:11:20

    i solved it twice today. still using the things on the website. gotta memorize now.

    BTW: website i use: http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/beginner.html

  926. Jayyrizzle
    Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 22:13:48

    i can only solve the corners haha

  927. wizwarezx
    Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 02:21:14

    TurbulentTurtle, ur fingertricks is not that crappy...only the first part of your second vid is.

    Jayyrizzle, try learning it. It fun. hahas.

  928. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 02:35:13

    QUOTE (wizwarezx @ Dec 8 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TurbulentTurtle, ur fingertricks is not that crappy...only the first part of your second vid is.

    Cross + F2L, right?
    Yeah, those are the worst parts of my solve. I can easily break into low 20s to 25 average if I had a better look ahead.

  929. icepisces32
    Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 13:34:55

    T_T i average about 1 min and 5 s.....I use the Fridritch method, but I don't know how to do the F2L.....that's what makes me slow I guess.....

  930. Rarka
    Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 14:50:51

    Recently I haven't been practising much because my hands were hurting after solving too much cubes...
    Now I decided to practise speedcubing, but about 20-30 solves per day, not more. I don't want to hurt my wrists.

    Today's times (my best avg so far:) )


    Spoiler:
    Statistics for 12-09-2008 15:46:09

    Average: 35,79
    Standard Deviation: 2,41
    Best Time: 28,14
    Worst Time: 42,66
    Individual Times:
    1. 33,30 B2 L' R' B R' U' L B2 U L' U' L R2 B' D U2 L2 D U' F' L' R2 U L2 B2
    2. (28,14) D' B' F2 D2 U2 R' U2 L R2 U' L2 R' D U' R2 D2 B F L B D' B D2 U2 B' PLL skip
    3. (42,66) U' B2 F U' B' F' R B2 F2 D U B' F' U' L2 R B2 D' R2 B2 D B' F D2 U'
    4. 35,44 L R2 B2 D2 U2 B2 F' U B F2 U B2 F' U2 R B2 F2 R' F D2 L2 R' D' F2 D
    5. 38,17 B2 U R2 B' L2 B' U2 R' D2 B L2 D L D' U' R2 D' R2 F L2 B F U' R B'
    6. 38,34 R' B2 F' L' R2 B2 F R' F L2 U F2 D2 U' F U2 F' D' U' B' R2 D' U2 L' R'
    7. 30,88 B D U' B F2 U2 F2 L2 B R F2 U L' R U2 R B L' B R' B L R' B' F'
    8. 34,91 B' F R2 U' B L R U R' U' L' D' U' L2 B' L' U F L R2 F' D U' F R
    9. 37,67 F R' B2 F2 R U' B' D L2 R' U R' U2 F' L' B2 D L2 R' B' L R2 D R2 F2
    10. 35,67 U2 L2 R D2 U B' U2 B F U2 B2 F' U2 L' R' B D U2 B2 F L R D' F L
    11. 34,61 B2 F2 D' U F2 L D U L2 B' F D U2 F' R B2 F L' B' L R F2 L' R B
    12. 38,89 F D2 U' B' F' R B' L D' U2 L U' L R U F2 L R D U' B' L2 R' D2 B'

  931. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 18:58:14

    Nice Rarka, I'm gonna try my first blindfold solve after school today biggrin.gif I'll keep attempting until I get a success.
    BTW, it feels go to be better than you at something tongue.gif Your spinning is amazing @.@
    edit, also I'm gonna postm a finger tricks video with my finger trick but I'll wait till we get to the next page or it'll just be instantly forgotten tongue.gif.

  932. nateiskewl
    Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 06:35:52

    I'm pretty sad right now. sad.gif I found a crack in my D type core when I was cleaning it out. What should I do? sad.gif

  933. Fluke
    Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 07:36:16

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Dec 10 2008, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm pretty sad right now. sad.gif I found a crack in my D type core when I was cleaning it out. What should I do? sad.gif

    just cube until it get's destroyed >.>
    Type D cores suck anyway tongue.gif

  934. nateiskewl
    Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 15:14:32

    I have the super old type D and it's VERY good.

  935. Fluke
    Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 18:18:45

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Dec 10 2008, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I have the super old type D and it's VERY good.

    but the core isn't smile.gif
    I only have the D's when they 1st came out tongue.gif
    I would suggest using and A core smile.gif

  936. nateiskewl
    Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 01:25:44

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Dec 10 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    but the core isn't smile.gif
    I only have the D's when they 1st came out tongue.gif
    I would suggest using and A core smile.gif


    Yeah, that's what I did, I used an a core. It's soo much tighter though... T.T

    EDIT: here's a video w/ the D type + A core. This is about my average now.

    Video -> Full View • Download


    And I only have a stackmat because they were half off at Toys 'r' Us. XD

  937. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 05:59:13

    Nate....
    Man during and after the 2x2x2 block you have wayyyyyyy to to much pausing...
    BTW the 2 gen part is fun eh XD
    Work on look ahead and you'll be sweet. I'll show you how slow you can turn for a sub 30 solve:
    Video to come...

  938. nateiskewl
    Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 06:01:46

    Yeah I know there are a lot of pauses, I'm still trying to work on looking forward to the next step...but thanks for the advice. biggrin.gif

  939. MrData
    Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 23:29:55

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Dec 10 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    And I only have a stackmat because they were half off at Toys 'r' Us. XD

    lol I also got that glow in the dark timer at toys r us. It was on clearance for like 15 bucks xP

  940. wizwarezx
    Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 07:23:51

    NAteisskewl, OMGZ!!! is that the Glow in the Dark stackmat timer?? I cant get that here...zz...

  941. nateiskewl
    Date: Sat, Dec 13 2008 20:50:10

    Omfg. I just got my best time (and first sub-30). It had a PLL skip, though. It was in this average of 5 that I was doing:

    ----- JNetCube Session Statistics for Sat Dec 13 12:46:37 PST 2008 -----

    Cubes Solved: 5
    Total Pops: 0
    Average: 46.35

    Fastest Time: 24.65
    Slowest Time: 57.99
    Standard Deviation: 12.65

    Individual Times:
    1) 49.83 L B' L2 D2 U' F U' B' R' F L R2 U2 D2 L F' L' D' B' R' D' R U2 B' F
    2) 49.95 U F U2 L F R2 L2 B' F2 U' B D' B' U2 L' U' F R B2 U D' L' B2 R' F'
    3) 49.33 B R2 F' B' U2 L' U L2 R' D U R' D' F' L' U2 B2 F' L' U B' L2 F L2 D2
    4) 57.99 U' L2 F L D2 R L2 F' U' B' R' U2 D2 L D' F' U R B' F' L' D2 L2 R' D'
    5) 24.65 R' D F D2 B2 U L2 F D' L2 F' B R' U2 F2 D' U L D2 F U B2 U2 D L2

  942. Rarka
    Date: Sat, Dec 13 2008 21:14:00

    Nate, I don't know how it is in other countries, but in Poland people consider their own PB (personal best) as a time without any skips ;] or they identify two records : PB and PB LC.
    Btw it looks so strange when you have one time 2x better than others ;d Anyway nice times smile.gif

    And today I did mean of 25. It's not my best, it was doing when my hands were cold :/ Tomorrow I'll make better one.

    Cubes Solved : 25
    Average : 35.23

    Best time : 30.07
    Worst time : 39.18
    Standard deviation : 3.11

    Sections
    30.xx = 4 : {30.50, 30.53, 30.57, 30.07}
    31.xx = 2 : {31.36, 31.32}
    32.xx = 1 : {32.17}
    33.xx = 2 : {33.18, 33.50}
    35.xx = 2 : {35.65, 35.32}
    36.xx = 4 : {36.77, 36.34, 36.18, 36.78}
    37.xx = 5 : {37.17, 37.18, 37.23, 37.63, 37.59}
    38.xx = 4 : {38.98, 38.62, 38.65, 38.26}
    39.xx = 1 : {39.18}


    Also I've learnt all permutations, including Gs.

  943. nateiskewl
    Date: Sat, Dec 13 2008 21:17:35

    Ah alright. My PB is 33 then. And nice times, Rarka. wink.gif

  944. k-ryder
    Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 00:16:58

    i can solve it, not particularly fast (about 1.5 minutes max)
    all i tend to do now is make pretty patterns XD

    i can solve a megaminx! yay! laugh.gif

  945. Darkeh
    Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 00:41:29

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Dec 13 2008, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Omfg. I just got my best time (and first sub-30). It had a PLL skip, though. It was in this average of 5 that I was doing:

    Petrus?

  946. Rarka
    Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 14:27:43

    As I said yesterday, here's my today's mean of 25:

    Cubes Solved : 25
    Average : 33.91

    Best time : 27.04
    Worst time : 40.11
    Standard deviation : 3.21

    Sections
    27.xx = 1 : {27.04}
    29.xx = 1 : {29.89}
    30.xx = 3 : {30.61, 30.40, 30.96}
    31.xx = 2 : {31.57, 31.49}
    32.xx = 3 : {32.86, 32.40, 32.10}
    33.xx = 4 : {33.73, 33.25, 33.89, 33.06}
    34.xx = 3 : {34.51, 34.29, 34.03}
    35.xx = 1 : {35.65}
    36.xx = 2 : {36.16, 36.91}
    37.xx = 2 : {37.65, 37.10}
    39.xx = 2 : {39.06, 39.01}
    40.xx = 1 : {40.11}

    times 39-40 are with perm G, I still don't use them when doing averages, because they're slow :/ (I do T perm, then U instead of Gs).

  947. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 15:29:37

    QUOTE (Darkeh @ Dec 13 2008, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Petrus?


    Yup. ^^

    And more nice times, Rarka. smile.gif

  948. Floating Duck
    Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 17:10:12

    Got a 45sec petrus solve after about only 3 hours of pratice, but i have no look ahead on the first two layers yet =/

  949. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 22:12:11

    I got a pretty good time. OLL skip though. >.> Scramble: D2 F2 R' D2 U2 F' D L' U2 B' U F R' L' F' R' L' F B2 L' U L2 R' F B

    Video -> Full View • Download


    F2L was non lucky.

    BTW: I cut the scramble at the beginning, that's why there's that last turn.

  950. l33tPi
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 02:02:36

    hey nate give me that buster cyl and that DIY!!!!now!!!!
    btw: we should make a rubiks cube collab XD that would be epic!

  951. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 02:30:47

    It's not a Buster CYL.

  952. l33tPi
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 03:12:11

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Dec 14 2008, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    It's not a Buster CYL.

    sure looks like one

  953. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 03:53:34

    No ps discussion >.>
    also heres my short fingertrick video:




    @Rarka:
    I'm sure with 1/2 an hour or less of practise, your G's (lol) will be better than a T,A.
    I can do my G's in like 2 1/2 secs on avg. and my favorite G I can avg. under 2 secs

  954. l33tPi
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 03:56:16

    QUOTE (Fluke @ Dec 14 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No ps discussion >.>
    also heres my short fingertrick video:



    holy f*** dude give me a square 1 please?!?!?!

  955. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 04:18:34

    QUOTE (l33tPi @ Dec 14 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    quack

    what!?!
    how'd you know I have sq-1?

  956. wizwarezx
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 14:45:41

    Anyone here does OH CUBING?? My avg is 1min...

  957. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 18:39:04

    LOL
    I started it last night and then you post this tongue.gif

    my avg. is mid to high 40's

  958. Rarka
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 19:20:46

    Anyone doing blindfolded?
    It looks really cool, I'm gonna learn it soon. yesterday I was practising memorizing the cube by memorizing the "cycle" (edge on UR goes to DL, DL goes to BU... and similar to corners), but I don't know how to remember which orientation of edge or corner I have to change :/

    Edit: okay, nvm, I've found how to memorize orientation, but it looks quite hard. I'm going to practise it :]

  959. MrData
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 21:33:55

    I've done one BLD solve...
    Can't say the time because I did memo one day and executed it the next.

  960. komas
    Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 21:42:54

    Blindsolving is my favorite smile.gif My best time was 2:09 with the 3-cycle method. I'm practicing M2 edges right now. If you're using either of those methods, I can help you out if you have any problems.

  961. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 02:41:38

    3op edges are fastere than M2 :/
    not that I'm better than you at BLD tongue.gif
    move onto freestyle, it's like 3op but you put the o and p together.
    you know, commutators!

    so you do a normal 3 cycle but like.... :/ You don't orient at the start, you orient and permute at the same time. It's the best by far for good times smile.gif

    BTW, I've only got 1 success 12mins but I do know a bit about BLD tongue.gif

  962. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 04:01:47

    Woo! New PB. ^^ 30.18

    Got it on Cubemania. Does anyone else use this?

  963. Fluke
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 04:04:56

    i do.
    LukeMayn tongue.gif

  964. MrData
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 06:18:12

    I do as well.
    MrData is the username, of course.

  965. wizwarezx
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 13:55:04

    erm...can anyone get for me a glow in the dark timer?? Just the timer..

    THX!

  966. Stevieboy7
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 20:13:59

    i use cubemania too.
    same username smile.gif
    outlander does as well.

  967. Rarka
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 21:30:27

    Cubes Solved : 25
    Average : 33.72

    Best time : 25.34
    Worst time : 41.51
    Standard deviation : 3.34

    Sections
    25.xx = 1 : {25.34} (LOL, my PB is 25.33)
    28.xx = 1 : {28.22}
    30.xx = 2 : {30.57, 30.97}
    31.xx = 2 : {31.15, 31.19}
    32.xx = 3 : {32.08, 32.07, 32.70}
    33.xx = 3 : {33.06, 33.35, 33.78}
    34.xx = 7 : {34.17, 34.41, 34.74, 34.35, 34.88, 34.66, 34.94}
    35.xx = 2 : {35.22, 35.96}
    36.xx = 1 : {36.58}
    38.xx = 1 : {38.13}
    39.xx = 1 : {39.08}
    41.xx = 1 : {41.51}

    I'm using G permutations too smile.gif

  968. wizwarezx
    Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 02:20:48

    Lately, my avg for 3x3 was 23s.
    OH, 1.10min
    Megaminx, 4.23min
    magic, 2s

  969. komas
    Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 14:33:15

    freestyle bld takes so much time to learn...maybe when i'm in college.

    but i think ill try and stick to m2 edges for now. i like m moves a lot, but i need to speed up on the non-m move parts of the algorithms. ive been tring to memo using letters, but i think that visual is probably easiest and fastest for me.

    also, i really like the hybrid cube you posted on speedcubing.com. it locks up a bit from time to time, but my average dropped a few seconds after using your hybrid smile.gif i was actually really close to making it on my own a while ago, when i figured out that the parts of my d-type and old rubiks diy worked well together. but i just ended up using all rubiks cubies and the d centers because the d-type pieces werent broken in too well.

  970. The Dane
    Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 15:11:49

    I began the Rubiks Cube about 2 months ago by learning only layer by layer. >_>'

    I must confess I'm waaaaay to lazy to learn... But I wanted to learn Fridrich method.
    Got f2l, oll and pll algorithms all on sheets up in my room.

    My record only is 1:16 xD...
    But maybe I'm gonna learn Fridrich to improve.

    Keep Spinning/Cubing XD

  971. Stevieboy7
    Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 21:11:22

    Ugh Okay, need a new 3x3 cube.
    ive been having troubles with my DIY and its just getting annoying.
    the red sides keeps coming loose, ive put some teflon tape around it, which helped a bit but it still manages to pop about every 2-3 solves. and i have to keep applying more tefllon tape...
    SOOO i need somesuggestions.
    What Kinda Cube?
    Where to buy? (any better than cube4you/cubefans?)
    Maybe you guys have some fairly new ones that you wanna sell me?
    I mostly want a white cube, and obviously a DIY.
    Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks!

    (ps. O yah, New record: 1:12.95, best avg. 1:21.74, i think im gonna move to start learning F2L now)

  972. komas
    Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 22:47:22

    what type of diy do you have right now? also, dont use teflon tape for a loose screw. Try and find loctite threadlocker or something similar. It should just mold to the shape of the screw and adhere to the inside of the core, so the screw wont come out by itself. it should still be adjustable though.

    I still think that cube4you and cubefans are the best places to get good diys. Maybe wait a little bit to see your cubing technique when solving fast. If you tend to cut corners a lot, get a type a or type d. if you are really good and have near perfect turning like yu nakajima, get a diansheng and some new stickers (the diansheng has the colors painted on). I have also heard that joy cubes and edison cubes are amazing, but they are hard to get outside of western asia. These are my suggestions, but just know that i havent tried a very wide variety of cubes.

    Also, note that many of the caltech cubers use storebought rubik's, and dan dzoan has had a few sub-11 solves in competition with one.

    And if you have silicone spray, dont lube your cube right away. break it in until you can at least turn each side without much effort, but i prefer to keep going until it feels like i can go to a competition with the cube (depending on the type of plastic and amount of free time you have, this may take anywhere from three days to about a month). i guarantee that you will have much better results.

  973. MrData
    Date: Thu, Dec 18 2008 03:27:35

    So komas, you gonna be at the competition this weekend and beat me badly?

  974. komas
    Date: Thu, Dec 18 2008 07:07:06

    no... i wish i could be there though. i'm in japan for three weeks, where i found dr. grips for $4 and hyperjells for less than a dollar smile.gif

  975. Fluke
    Date: Thu, Dec 18 2008 23:11:42

    pencils!?!??
    Can I have some biggrin.gif

  976. komas
    Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 08:28:06

    sorry, but i was only able to get the last 2. maybe we can trade if i can find more during the remaining two weeks that i'm here.

  977. UEDan
    Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 10:57:52

    QUOTE (MrData @ Dec 17 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So komas, you gonna be at the competition this weekend and beat me badly?


    heheh I saw your post on SpeedSolving!
    I'll see you there, I'm gonna be volunteering!
    I honestly dont know what the "prize/proof" will be so I cant say.

  978. MrData
    Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 14:56:45

    Alright then, I'll see you there.
    I wish I could be in Japan...

  979. wizwarezx
    Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 14:59:08

    HEy, any one interested in joining the upcomming WCA competition in SIngapore?? Its somewhere during february...

    ANy info, visit

    www.rubiks.com.sg

  980. l33tPi
    Date: Sat, Dec 20 2008 02:45:04

    im getting a 6x6 for Christmas XDDDDDDDDDDDDD owenage!

  981. Rarka
    Date: Sat, Dec 20 2008 13:24:21



    http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=fLryXTqWqbE
    25.73, but the scramble was easy :/

  982. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Dec 21 2008 02:49:28

    I'm really happy. Yesterday I got a 28 second solve with no skips. I also got an Eastsheen 2x2 free from PrizeRebel. biggrin.gif

  983. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Dec 21 2008 02:53:46

    nice Rarka.
    You'll get good at F2L cos while you do slow turning your lokk-ahead will improve until you are doing high TPS in F2L with perfect look-ahead smile.gif

    Anyway, I started a new method which is similar to fridrich, I like it smile.gif
    It goes like:

    1. make the cross excl. 1 piece (4 moves)
    2. do F2L like usual. (24 moves) I really like this part cos you have a free face to turn smile.gif
    3. do CLL (IDK like 9 moves?)
    4. put last cross edge in and orient LL edges (6ish moves?)
    5. EPLL (11.5 moves)

    all of them are estimates apart from the EPLL one tongue.gif
    It's really fast and also it uses WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY less algs the fridrich!
    NO OLL!!!!! w00t
    only like 42 CLL biggrin.gif and they're all like < 1.5 secs

  984. wizwarezx
    Date: Sun, Dec 21 2008 14:25:17

    you mean?? V-cubes??

    I dont know why but i just like playing 4x4....hahas...

  985. Bread
    Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 04:20:13

    So what exactly is CLL. I havn't ever heard of it. o.o

    I might try it if I get back into cubing. I've stopped cubing since summer... can't even rmb most of my PLL's and half of my 2look OLLs (rofl >>) : S

    My pb is ~24.5s with 2 look OLL and PLL skip. failagee

  986. Fluke
    Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 05:36:08

    corners last layer...
    and after that you do ELL

    It's a variation on OLL/PLL
    OLL/PLL = orient - permute

    CLL/ELL = corners - edges

    http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

    Please check here for stuffs tongue.gif

  987. Pandarian
    Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 17:31:32

    my friend does rubix cube and i penspin
    everyone thinks rubix is harder cause it looks harder
    his 2weeks look cooler than my 5monthes T-T

  988. Rarka
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 13:50:46

    Yay, My best mean smile.gif

    Cubes Solved : 25
    Average : 31.87

    Best time : 27.14
    Worst time : 37.86
    Standard deviation : 3.25


    27.xx = 3 : {27.71, 27.14, 27.54}
    28.xx = 2 : {28.56, 28.61}
    29.xx = 4 : {29.52, 29.49, 29.23, 29.76}
    30.xx = 1 : {30.40}
    31.xx = 5 : {31.60, 31.70, 31.94, 31.01, 31.50}
    32.xx = 2 : {32.27, 32.45}
    33.xx = 2 : {33.17, 33.30}
    34.xx = 1 : {34.61}
    36.xx = 2 : {36.13, 36.64}
    37.xx = 3 : {37.86, 37.55, 37.06}

    And there is an avg12 30.95.

    I've learnt all PLLs and I use them, now learning few OLLs smile.gif

  989. KhaDori
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 16:08:32

    I suggest using this > http://www.badmephisto.mine.nu/site/ < webpage. There are complete descriptions of each Friedrich stage, and a funny FAQ section biggrin.gif
    Personal best - 29.99 ;p

  990. l33tPi
    Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 20:05:27

    woot woot. got a DIY 3x3, Eastsheen 5x5, and V-cube 6x6 for Christmas XDD

  991. Rarka
    Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 22:15:53

    Lol I've just did 19.04, I remember doing U perm, but I don't remember whether I was doing an OLL, or there was a skip... sad.gif

  992. Anemia
    Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 19:15:21

    How fast should I be able to solve my cube using LBL before learning anything else?
    My current time is 2.30.67 but I usually get around 3.00 even..

  993. Stevieboy7
    Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 19:17:47

    QUOTE (Anemia @ Dec 30 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How fast should I be able to solve my cube using LBL before learning anything else?
    My current time is 2.30.67 but I usually get around 3.00 even..

    Using Beginners method (LBL) im down to an average of about 1:05.
    my best times are 49, 52, and ive gotten in the mid-high 50's a bunch of times.
    Work on your finger tricks, and trying to get the Cross alot quicker.

  994. Rarka
    Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 20:36:08

    QUOTE (Anemia @ Dec 30 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How fast should I be able to solve my cube using LBL before learning anything else?
    My current time is 2.30.67 but I usually get around 3.00 even..


    I think 1:30 is enough to learn Fridrich's F2L, then you can learn 2-look OLL and few PLLs


    http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=WVu96XmvLH4
    24.81 solve
    yesterday I did my new PB 23.87 and often I get times sub 30 smile.gif

  995. Anemia
    Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 21:09:47

    Nice Rarka ^^
    Btw I've only been doing this for four days.

  996. Huroni
    Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 01:18:25

    I guess I'm back ^^


    Gonna put F2L times after a session here:
    1:49
    2:24


    I lost alot of ability. I am going to start learning more algorithms for PLL and OLL. Starting now.

  997. nateiskewl
    Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 01:50:21

    I know, I know, the stackmat procedure thingy I did was wrong, deal with it.

  998. Kari-Chan
    Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 04:23:08

    i did my first 1 min sub yesterday ^^

    and a few times later...








    and once or twice, my cube fell apart probably from too much lube xD

  999. FripメECツ
    Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 06:51:21

    Ok so I got a new cube... a pic



    New vs. Old.. (Yes the old one is solved ^^)

    What should I use to lube my cube? And is there a way to just switch the individual parts? (or switch the cores?) The old one turns sooo much easier than the new one..


    Help pls.

    O, and somebody timed me, 2:20 :>

  1000. komas
    Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 14:11:37

    Just get new stickers from cubesmith.com. its a lot cheaper than getting a new cube.

    lube with crc heavy duty silicone spray. you can get it at walmart or ace hardware, and it comes in a red can.

  1001. Anemia
    Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 17:13:10

    2:05 last night.
    I'm going to start learning the short cuts.

  1002. Huroni
    Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 00:19:54

    I hate my cube...so hard to turn...I need to save up for DIY or new one and some silicon stuff..


    For F2L
    ----- JNetCube Session Statistics for Wed Dec 31 19:00:49 EST 2008 -----

    Cubes Solved: 4
    Total Pops: 1
    Average: 1:34.01

    Fastest Time: 1:12.42
    Slowest Time: 1:58.71
    Standard Deviation: 19.08

    Individual Times:
    1) 1:12.42 L2 B2 L' D2 U' R' B2 D2 U2 B2 D' B2 F2 R' D' U2 F2 L' U B' F' R2 D2 U2 L2
    2) 1:58.71 L F R D R F D' L B2 D' F2 D' B2 L' F R2 L2 F' R D2 U B2 D' U R'
    3) 1:34.85 D' B L' B2 D U2 R' F' R2 L' B' L U2 B2 R' D2 B D' F2 R L2 B' F' U2 D'
    4) 1:30.06 L F R2 L2 B2 U2 L B2 L2 B D2 R B' D R D2 L' B2 D' F' U' B2 L2 U2 D


    For LBL
    ----- JNetCube Session Statistics for Wed Dec 31 19:19:05 EST 2008 -----

    Cubes Solved: 4
    Total Pops: 0
    Average: 1:26.92

    Fastest Time: 1:16.28
    Slowest Time: 1:35.77
    Standard Deviation: 08.78

    Individual Times:
    1) 1:32.19 R' B' R' L2 F' R D' B2 D2 L U' F D2 B L' U L D' B' D L F2 D' U B
    2) 1:23.46 F' L' R' U' B2 D2 R2 B2 D' F2 D2 B' D' L2 D U2 R D2 U2 B2 D' F B2 U R2
    3) 1:16.28 B L F' D2 R2 F B' L' D2 U F' D F' U L F U2 D2 R' B2 D2 U2 L U D2
    4) 1:35.77 B' R L D' U2 B F' D2 R' B' U2 D2 L U' L' D' F L' F2 D2 B2 U2 L2 D' B2


    I suck hard orz. I need to learn more pll I guess... Oh well. That concludes my cubing session.

  1003. KL-7
    Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 10:11:14

    Hi... Some time ago I've learnt solving cube, but my awful cube is broken now...
    So I need a new one, but I don't know, which cube to but...

    Can you give some advices? I don't need professional cube, but I want white body 3*3 cube, which will be good enough for solving cube in one minute or a little bit less time... laugh.gif

    I can easily buy cube from Rubik's, but is it good? Other cubes I can buy only in internet shops...

    thanks in advance...

    PS
    Is it a good variant: White DIYkit Cube III(a)?

  1004. dorThePro
    Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 16:05:14

    hey who can give me a nice way and easy 1 to solve it no must be fast

    thanks

  1005. (ORLY)InhumanElmo
    Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 16:36:45

    So i decided that im going to venture forth and try my hand at modifying cubes. I made a Fisher Cube, and it needs alot of work, but it is so dam cool!

  1006. cyshing
    Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 03:57:07

    I just get my speedcubing cube. Assembled but not yet lubricate. I wonder does grease spray(the bottle says can used for metal and plastic contact but it's kinda like gel type when i spray some) and Gel type silicon lubricate work alright for the cube lubrication?

    I tested the grease spray(i used cotton bud to apply) to on my original rubik's(not for speedcubing), it seems smooth but not as smooth as it is loose. I'm not sure whether it's the cube's problem or the grease spray does not suitable.

    Someone please help me? i'm rubiks newbie.

  1007. Darkeh
    Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 16:38:43

    QUOTE (cyshing @ Jan 2 2009, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I just get my speedcubing cube. Assembled but not yet lubricate. I wonder does grease spray(the bottle says can used for metal and plastic contact but it's kinda like gel type when i spray some) and Gel type silicon lubricate work alright for the cube lubrication?

    I tested the grease spray(i used cotton bud to apply) to on my original rubik's(not for speedcubing), it seems smooth but not as smooth as it is loose. I'm not sure whether it's the cube's problem or the grease spray does not suitable.

    Someone please help me? i'm rubiks newbie.

    I think most people suggest silicone spray and not grease

  1008. Anemia
    Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 02:02:00

    1:35 is my new record.
    I can get under 2:15 everytime now.
    I might get a DIY..
    But then again I might just lube this stock cube.

  1009. arthurrhodes
    Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 04:02:33

    so i finally got the nerve to scramble my 4x4 today. it really wasnt that hard to solve. perhaps next ill scramble up my 5x5

  1010. Dr.House
    Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 04:45:20

    Best time is 36 seconds
    average at the 40's
    use a mix of f2l for some
    and universal oll
    that gets me to a universal pll

  1011. Antonio Garcia
    Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 08:12:05

    my best time is 18.. i use waterman method..i dont put jelly in my cube..

  1012. MrData
    Date: Tue, Jan 6 2009 23:46:35

    So UEDan, I don't remember seeing you at the competition... Where were you?

  1013. Rarka
    Date: Wed, Jan 7 2009 14:58:06

    LOL, my RC suddenly starded to pop... Once I was solving and it broke :/ I saw that one of the centers can extend too long and it doesn't keep rest of the pieces, so I can catch one side and weakly pull and I have all pieces from this side in my hand ;d
    Today I'm gonna buy new RC or look for some DIY.
    BTW yesterday did new PB non lc 22.0 (on mobile phone)

    http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=MXPqX0zmTiE
    here's a vid what happened.

  1014. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 07:38:12

    I'm back from holiday o.0

    managed to do a few 17sec avgs there smile.gif

    and a 3.xx 2x2x2 avg. of 5 o.0

  1015. Stevieboy7
    Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 07:42:17

    uhh sad.gif
    Canada Post Office LOST my order from cube4you (3 cubes + springs and screws)
    My parents made me put away my cubes until school semester is finished.
    My hands are nao bored, and fidgety as helll...


    See you guys in 5 months...

  1016. Fluke
    Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 20:19:30

    D:

    cya I guess....

  1017. Anemia
    Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 20:55:00

    http://www.cube4you.com/424_New-White-3x3x3-Speed-Cube.html
    Is that a good cube?
    I'm looking to buy a DIY, and I want some suggestions.

  1018. Aries
    Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 22:19:37

    can any1 buy me the yellow DIY kit on cube4you.com ill pay you 5 bucks as well as pay for the cube itself. pm me

  1019. komas
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 00:02:12

    QUOTE (Anemia @ Jan 11 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://www.cube4you.com/424_New-White-3x3x3-Speed-Cube.html
    Is that a good cube?
    I'm looking to buy a DIY, and I want some suggestions.

    Yeah, I got this cube last week, and it turns really nice out of the box. The color scheme was a bit off, but other than that, it doesn't pop and it turns smoothly. I haven't played with it too much or lubed it yet, so I can't compare it to any of my other cubes yet though. I would say to get it.

  1020. Zaiks
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 13:22:40

    Heh , my avg from 12
    Sections
    40.xx = 1 : {40.34} - my current non LC best
    43.xx = 2 : {43.30, 43.62}
    44.xx = 1 : {44.52}
    45.xx = 1 : {45.98}
    46.xx = 1 : {46.28}
    47.xx = 2 : {47.36, 47.80}
    49.xx = 1 : {49.67}
    50.xx = 1 : {50.82}
    51.xx = 1 : {51.45}
    53.xx = 1 : {53.06}

    I am still pure LBL'er haha:D
    I dont have time and motivation to learn fridrich sad.gif help meh ....sad.gif

  1021. Tekkai
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 22:22:37

    Best single time: 15.03 seconds
    Best average time: 19.87 seconds
    biggrin.gif

  1022. Fluke
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 00:13:29

    yay! (first?) sub 20 biggrin.gif

    Yesterday I was doing a 16 sec avg. but then I screwed it up :/

  1023. MrData
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 00:23:28

    Today I got a 17.50, my new pb non-lucky single. biggrin.gif

  1024. Rarka
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 11:10:46

    I haven't been cubing for a week, my cube was broken, but now my new RC is awesome!

    mean of 25:
    Cubes Solved : 25
    Average : 29.24

    Best time : 21.39
    Worst time : 33.93
    Standard deviation : 3.60

    21.xx = 1 : {21.39} - new PB non LC
    23.xx = 1 : {23.32}
    24.xx = 1 : {24.37}
    25.xx = 2 : {25.57, 25.04}
    26.xx = 3 : {26.46, 26.56, 26.25}
    27.xx = 1 : {27.93}
    28.xx = 2 : {28.65, 28.54}
    29.xx = 2 : {29.69, 29.49}
    30.xx = 3 : {30.64, 30.52, 30.83}
    31.xx = 2 : {31.39, 31.24}
    32.xx = 3 : {32.97, 32.82, 32.62}
    33.xx = 4 : {33.60, 33.60, 33.64, 33.93}

    And I'm going to order some DIY from cube4you, White DIYKit 3x3x3 Cube III (a) or Black DIYKit 3x3x3 Cube II (a).

  1025. Stevieboy7
    Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 19:03:42

    QUOTE (Rarka @ Jan 17 2009, 07:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I haven't been cubing for a week, my cube was broken, but now my new RC is awesome!

    mean of 25:
    Cubes Solved : 25
    Average : 29.24

    Best time : 21.39
    Worst time : 33.93
    Standard deviation : 3.60

    21.xx = 1 : {21.39} - new PB non LC
    23.xx = 1 : {23.32}
    24.xx = 1 : {24.37}
    25.xx = 2 : {25.57, 25.04}
    26.xx = 3 : {26.46, 26.56, 26.25}
    27.xx = 1 : {27.93}
    28.xx = 2 : {28.65, 28.54}
    29.xx = 2 : {29.69, 29.49}
    30.xx = 3 : {30.64, 30.52, 30.83}
    31.xx = 2 : {31.39, 31.24}
    32.xx = 3 : {32.97, 32.82, 32.62}
    33.xx = 4 : {33.60, 33.60, 33.64, 33.93}

    And I'm going to order some DIY from cube4you, White DIYKit 3x3x3 Cube III (a) or Black DIYKit 3x3x3 Cube II (a).



    Cubes wise i would definately recommend the C version.... i just got my gray one from cube4you, its a bit better than the A.

  1026. Anemia
    Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 19:48:42

    Got my DIY (White) from cube4you in the mail yesterday.
    1:28 is my new record.. still using LBL.

  1027. MrData
    Date: Wed, Jan 21 2009 21:13:31

    New non-lucky pb: 15.22

  1028. komas
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 00:19:13

    QUOTE (Rarka @ Jan 17 2009, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I haven't been cubing for a week, my cube was broken, but now my new RC is awesome!

    mean of 25:
    Cubes Solved : 25
    Average : 29.24

    Best time : 21.39
    Worst time : 33.93
    Standard deviation : 3.60

    21.xx = 1 : {21.39} - new PB non LC
    23.xx = 1 : {23.32}
    24.xx = 1 : {24.37}
    25.xx = 2 : {25.57, 25.04}
    26.xx = 3 : {26.46, 26.56, 26.25}
    27.xx = 1 : {27.93}
    28.xx = 2 : {28.65, 28.54}
    29.xx = 2 : {29.69, 29.49}
    30.xx = 3 : {30.64, 30.52, 30.83}
    31.xx = 2 : {31.39, 31.24}
    32.xx = 3 : {32.97, 32.82, 32.62}
    33.xx = 4 : {33.60, 33.60, 33.64, 33.93}

    And I'm going to order some DIY from cube4you, White DIYKit 3x3x3 Cube III (a) or Black DIYKit 3x3x3 Cube II (a).


    Get the new cube4you cube. From what I've heard, its the best one out of all the types, as it's been completely designed with speedcubing in mind. Apparently, it's really good at cutting corners:

    http://www.cube4you.com/catalog_36.html
    http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8850

    Also, my megaminx PB 2:36 after 2 weeks smile.gif

  1029. Cheese
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 03:14:55

    I haven't cubed for like, months now. I think my best time (non-lucky) was around 55 seconds. I probably got slower...

  1030. Kari-Chan
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:23:29

    w00t my brothers bought me a 4x4x4^^

    now i have to wait till they come back from singapore =3


    and perhaps they'll get me a 5x5x5 xDD

  1031. 11Cichy11
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 07:58:01

    Yeasterday I did my new PB - 57.71s
    I know this is not good but that's my first solved under 1 min!!!!
    I'm happy biggrin.gif

  1032. Antonio Garcia
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 11:53:55

    Does anyone here know about the ubiks cube revolution? is it a nice cube?

  1033. Stevieboy7
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 19:02:33

    QUOTE (Antonio Garcia @ Jan 22 2009, 06:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone here know about the ubiks cube revolution? is it a nice cube?

    its not an actual cube.
    its a toy with light-up middles.
    They lightup and stuff... its almost exactly like a "Simon" toy.
    Not really a cube at all

  1034. MrData
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 20:23:20

    QUOTE (Antonio Garcia @ Jan 22 2009, 03:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone here know about the Rubiks cube revolution? is it a nice cube?

    Trust me, you don't want to waste your money on that.

  1035. xonon
    Date: Fri, Jan 23 2009 04:45:33

    my cube springs are all messed up so it catches when i solve dry.gif
    i have a decent 4x4x4 but i'm so slow it's not worth solving...

  1036. icepisces32
    Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 00:54:42

    yeah... I average around 50 sec to a minute, and my fastest was 45 sec. I use an improvised Fridritch, with Cross and F2L done intuitively. The OLL and PLL are done using algs. And oh, I use Rubik'sâ„¢ brand. I wanna go faster though.

  1037. ClydeメEC
    Date: Sun, Jan 25 2009 09:12:53

    yey lol I average 40~1 min now lol my fastest is 31.25 LBL

  1038. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Jan 28 2009 20:16:44

  1039. Makix
    Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 02:14:38

    QUOTE (Onyx @ Sep 9 2007, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Just got one today. and I messed it all up dry.gif Any site where I can get help

    USE THE LIL PACKET THAT CAME WITH THE CUBE tongue.gif
    it helps a lot...
    tongue.gif

  1040. Kari-Chan
    Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 05:35:15

    yay TT's back! xD

    i got my 4x4 cube and solved it but it's so... big and hard to turn... and then when i got back to the 3x3, it feels so small... ><

  1041. wizwarezx
    Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 01:08:17

    HE should get for you an eastsheen instead. Yup, eastsheens are sold in singapore. The size is smaller, like 3x3. =D

  1042. Kari-Chan
    Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 01:18:01

    lol... a bit too late for that... my other bro's flying back already xD

  1043. Ste
    Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 03:37:09

    I cubed for 1 month and 16 days and my PB is 33.83 seconds.... I suck.

  1044. NightShad3
    Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 18:39:50

    hehe, nice
    I have a 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, and a rubiks magic. My solve time is more than a min.
    thumbs up!

  1045. Rarka
    Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 20:37:42

    Okay, back into speedcubing:

    Average of 12 : 26.37

    Best time : 19.77 (new pb, non lc of course)
    Worst time : 32.71
    Standard deviation : 2.68

    19.xx = 1 : {19.77}
    21.xx = 1 : {21.94}
    22.xx = 1 : {22.72}
    24.xx = 1 : {24.11}
    26.xx = 3 : {26.66, 26.35, 26.65}
    27.xx = 1 : {27.62}
    28.xx = 1 : {28.77}
    29.xx = 2 : {29.10, 29.78}
    32.xx = 1 : {32.71}

    And I was on the meeting, 2x2x2 is so cool smile.gif And I almost solved 4x4x4 - I can't make 2 last centers, my friend helped.

  1046. Tushix
    Date: Thu, Feb 5 2009 20:29:27

    <~~ got name change

    yay Rarka a sub 20 nl smile.gif

  1047. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Feb 7 2009 00:52:47

    Going to the Toronto Open Winter 2009 competition in a month.
    Yay.

  1048. Tushix
    Date: Tue, Feb 10 2009 07:20:54

    LUCKY!!!!

    I get my fist comp in June

  1049. wizwarezx
    Date: Tue, Feb 10 2009 09:34:40

    SIngapore Open this coming 28th Feb...hahas!!!

  1050. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Feb 10 2009 20:13:03

    You guys practicing hard? Cause I know I am.
    Trying to get a sub-20 average before the comp.

  1051. Dev
    Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 00:01:54

    I cube. sort of. just starting to teach myself though.

  1052. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 16:18:05

    QUOTE (Dev @ Feb 10 2009, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I cube. sort of. just starting to teach myself though.

    In my opinion, that is the best way to learn, without looking online and memorizing a ton of algorithms.
    You get to actually familiarize yourself with the cube and how the pieces move and such.

  1053. Dev
    Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 23:15:37

    Yes then you know what is happening to the cube and not just i do this and its solved and have no idea what happened to the cube (besides you turning it of course)

  1054. Kurteous&#33;
    Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 07:35:38

    I forgot that I actually asked a megaminx from my aunt months ago!!!Wee megaminx!

  1055. Penwish
    Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 15:10:35

    Anyone getting this?? seems neat!
    http://i.gizmodo.com/5150935/rubiks-touchc...een-rubiks-cube

  1056. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 15:14:02

    QUOTE (Penwish @ Feb 12 2009, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

    There was a lot of criticism over that on the speedcubing forum, due mostly to the fact that executing algorithms is going to be a bitch and it will definitely slow your times down. Also, the fact that only the up face working seems more like a hassle.
    More of a novelty item than anything.

  1057. Mach5
    Date: Fri, Feb 13 2009 06:40:06

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Feb 12 2009, 07:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    There was a lot of criticism over that on the speedcubing forum, due mostly to the fact that executing algorithms is going to be a bitch and it will definitely slow your times down. Also, the fact that only the up face working seems more like a hassle.
    More of a novelty item than anything.


    thats cool but I havent seen one of those where I live. Do they sell those in stores?

  1058. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Feb 13 2009 07:13:41

    QUOTE (Mach5 @ Feb 13 2009, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    thats cool but I havent seen one of those where I live. Do they sell those in stores?

    Not yet, available in stores in the fall, for $150.

  1059. Sh4D3
    Date: Fri, Feb 13 2009 10:04:39

    Wow 20 seconds?I heard the record was 9 seconds. i can only do 2 minutes.

  1060. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, Feb 13 2009 15:47:41

    QUOTE (Sh4D3 @ Feb 13 2009, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wow 20 seconds?I heard the record was 9 seconds. i can only do 2 minutes.

    7.

  1061. 000zero0000
    Date: Fri, Feb 13 2009 23:32:26

    anybody wanna explain The Petrus method? or at least give me a link

  1062. Sanozucke
    Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 15:36:39

    Yes i can solve \o/
    My record was 1:41:53 =)
    Look at youtube.. there are many tutorials!

  1063. Floating Duck
    Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 18:29:06

    QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Feb 13 2009, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    anybody wanna explain The Petrus method? or at least give me a link

    go ask nate, lol.

  1064. Ste
    Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 20:29:17

    YAY NEW PB! 23.79 seconds

  1065. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 21:07:07

    FUCK MY ASS YES!
    Two new personal bests in one average of 12 series!

    17.77 non lucky
    15.72 OLL skip

  1066. 000zero0000
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 02:23:41

    i epikally failed lubricating my cube, now i need to find something that will counter my failure (my cube is really slow now). what should i use? any home materials?

  1067. Stevieboy7
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 02:30:33

    QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Feb 14 2009, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i epikally failed lubricating my cube, now i need to find something that will counter my failure (my cube is really slow now). what should i use? any home materials?

    Well, Did you fail by letting the lube melt the cube?
    Or did you just get lots of residue?

    Either way, take your cube entirely apart.
    If the cube got melted, pry the parts that fused apart, and shave any parts that are above the surface down, to make it entirely even.
    Then use a luke warm cloth to wash the parts that have friction.

    If you have residue,
    Use a luke warm cloth to wash the inside parts that have friction to get ride of all the residue!!

  1068. 000zero0000
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 04:11:55

    @stevie, will washing the cube down make it back to its original state?

  1069. Awesome
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 04:16:41

    boiI lubed my cube with vaseline and that happened, but then I revasilined it and it got really good and stayed like that, I would suggest re lubing it up, then again I am no pro cuber XD

  1070. TRoc
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 04:32:05

    QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Feb 14 2009, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @stevie, will washing the cube down make it back to its original state?

    Sometimes a really bad lube will affect the ones put on afterward.
    Try filling a sink with soapy water and throw the pieces in there, try to rinse them well (the stickers'll be fine).
    Also go out and buy some well known cube lubes like CRC Heavy duty silicone or Jig-a-loo.

  1071. Commsa
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 06:14:14

    I can solve one in around 15 seconds now...

    Oh yeah, to all you people who don't know how to lubricate, take the cube apart and fill it with baby vasoline AKA petroleum jelly. Works like a charm.

    Record: 12.34 seconds

  1072. thnikk
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 06:22:58

    only been cubing for a few weeks or so and im averaging around 1 min now. my fastest is 55 seconds :/

  1073. 000zero0000
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 07:12:39

    thxs troc, stevie and awesome. ill try washing and vasaline w/e.


    btw: what speedcubing methods do you guys use?

  1074. Tushix
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 07:15:24

    Yay I realise why my times were not getting any better smile.gif

    I was working on look-ahead and not speed when it was speed that needed work.

    with cold hands my first 2 solves after realising this were 16, then 15 o.0

    I also got a 12 sec OLL skip smile.gif

  1075. TRoc
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 17:03:18

    You're not really supposed to use vaseline, petrolium jelly, WD-40 or anything oil based for cube lubricants. Usually they get the cube turning slow and the lube starts building up and feel like syrup or something

  1076. Tushix
    Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 18:50:45

    yes, Silicon spray is FTW

  1077. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 07:27:28

    Okay I finally got around to learning F2L ...

    I'm following MeMyselfandPi's YouTube tutorials ... and plurple73's tutorials too.



    But it's so confusing... and hard to remember.
    How many different cases are there for just F2L ? (do not include the last layer.)

  1078. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 08:11:49

    Search up BadMephisto's tutorials instead.

  1079. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 08:30:01

    Eh... but he teaches algs. doesn't he? And I don't want to memorise anything more.. mellow.gif

  1080. 000zero0000
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 16:26:54

    is there a method where you just use logic rather than algorithms? (fast)

  1081. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 16:31:59

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Feb 17 2009, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Eh... but he teaches algs. doesn't he? And I don't want to memorise anything more.. mellow.gif

    QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    is there a method where you just use logic rather than algorithms? (fast)


    Search up BadMephisto's tutorials.

  1082. Rarka
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 20:40:57

    LBL F2L - you need just one algorithm (and its inverse) to put an edge from U to 2nd layer. For solving corners from 1st layer you don't need any algorithms.
    LBL LL - I think there are two algorithms.
    So in total LBL requires only 3 algs, but also there isn't a lot of logic.

    You can learn intuitive F2L from Fridrich (Badmephisto's tutorials), which is really good and very logic.

    Recently I've been reading about 3OP method to blindfold cubing and it looks like I understand it, so soon I'm gonna learn it smile.gif I've also read about Ponchmann's method, but most cubers recommend 3OP.

  1083. midnight_xhris
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 21:30:38

    i've been cubing for about 2 mos. my progress has gone pretty fast but i still cant get sub 30. i use the fredrich method: cross, f2l, oll, pll. if you're wondering. record 36.5 sec, avg 42 sec. i use a white a2 dit with textured stickers. any tips?

  1084. sangara
    Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 00:02:19

    QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Feb 17 2009, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    is there a method where you just use logic rather than algorithms? (fast)


    If you want an intuitive method look up petrus, plus it's fun to learn.

  1085. freehand
    Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 06:41:39

    i still gotta learn that method one day. imlazyyy

    took my multiple hours. 3-12 it hink to understand lbl originally. then i had it from there.
    yes i can solve it

  1086. 000zero0000
    Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 00:35:40

    is it possible to get a time well under 1 min with lbl method?

  1087. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 00:39:57

    I'm only talking about the first 2 layers here... ignore the last layer...

    What's faster? The keyhole method or Jessica Fridrich ...(pairing edges and corners)

  1088. Bammer09
    Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 02:54:33

    Fastest:13 seonds for the 2x2
    fastest:18 seconds for the 3x3
    fastest: 46 seconds for the 5x5

  1089. TRoc
    Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 03:27:44

    QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Feb 20 2009, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    is it possible to get a time well under 1 min with lbl method?

    There was a guy on youtube, who must've taken his videos down like yesterday, who got sub 25 with lbl, he knew his OLLs and PLLs though.
    He used the transparent diy. This was the link, it's broken now: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=dUflWyZEH24&...feature=related

  1090. Tushix
    Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 18:40:37

    QUOTE
    What's faster? The keyhole method or Jessica Fridrich ...(pairing edges and corners)


    F2L (not keyhole)


    QUOTE (Bammer09 @ Feb 21 2009, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Fastest:13 seonds for the 2x2
    fastest:18 seconds for the 3x3
    fastest: 46 seconds for the 5x5



    wtf.gif your 5x5x5 isn't that fast :/
    Thats like WR time for 5x5x5 then for 2x2x2 almost everyone in the world could beat you!

    You are saying that it takes you 13 secs to do the corners alone on a 5x5x5 and then a mere 36 secs to do the other 36 edges and 54 centers facepalm.gif

  1091. TRoc
    Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 21:11:42

    QUOTE (Tushix @ Feb 22 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    F2L (not keyhole)





    wtf.gif your 5x5x5 isn't that fast :/
    Thats like WR time for 5x5x5 then for 2x2x2 almost everyone in the world could beat you!

    You are saying that it takes you 13 secs to do the centers alone on a 5x5x5 and then a mere 36 secs to do the other 36 edges and 54 centers facepalm.gif


    Actually you forgot the part where he has to solve the 5x5x5 like a 3x3x3 after he gets the centers and edges.

  1092. rockstar
    Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 21:51:51

    Never got to into speedcubing, record stands at 158 seconds.

  1093. Rarka
    Date: Thu, Feb 26 2009 18:11:22

    Today is a good day smile.gif

    Cubes solved : 12
    Average : 22.81
    Best time : 18.69
    Worst time : 26.88
    Standard deviation : 1.92

    18.xx = 1 : {18.69}
    20.xx = 1 : {20.08}
    21.xx = 4 : {21.70, 21.57, 21.42, 21.95}
    22.xx = 1 : {22.42}
    23.xx = 1 : {23.07}
    24.xx = 1 : {24.54}
    25.xx = 1 : {25.26}
    26.xx = 2 : {26.88, 26.14}

    And did few new records : 18.06, 18.06 (I did the same PB twice lol), and finally 18.03. Full step of course.
    I'm waiting for full step sub18. I did about 3-4 17.xx with pll skip.

    Edit:
    Lol, today I did 100 ;d


    Spoiler:
    Cubes Solved : 100
    Average : 24.45

    Best time : 18.03
    Worst time : 30.59
    Standard deviation : 2.97

    18.xx = 5 : {18.06, 18.69, 18.06, 18.03, 18.22}
    19.xx = 2 : {19.97, 19.95}
    20.xx = 5 : {20.11, 20.99, 20.08, 20.03, 20.24}
    21.xx = 11 : {21.60, 21.57, 21.28, 21.70, 21.57, 21.42, 21.95, 21.12, 21.92, 21.14, 21.26}
    22.xx = 8 : {22.30, 22.69, 22.02, 22.42, 22.16, 22.14, 22.34, 22.51}
    23.xx = 10 : {23.87, 23.71, 23.98, 23.84, 23.07, 23.17, 23.84, 23.82, 23.62, 23.95}
    24.xx = 13 : {24.78, 24.83, 24.30, 24.67, 24.69, 24.30, 24.54, 24.51, 24.06, 24.56, 24.94, 24.66, 24.14}
    25.xx = 16 : {25.66, 25.46, 25.25, 25.06, 25.06, 25.41, 25.20, 25.26, 25.12, 25.79, 25.57, 25.09, 25.46, 25.90, 25.63, 25.20}
    26.xx = 10 : {26.46, 26.91, 26.88, 26.14, 26.26, 26.83, 26.42, 26.86, 26.98, 26.50}
    27.xx = 11 : {27.71, 27.20, 27.65, 27.79, 27.10, 27.90, 27.26, 27.87, 27.18, 27.39, 27.54}
    28.xx = 2 : {28.93, 28.59}
    29.xx = 4 : {29.74, 29.34, 29.33, 29.04}
    30.xx = 3 : {30.59, 30.37, 30.51}

  1094. En-Nova
    Date: Sat, Feb 28 2009 22:50:24

    I'm so awesome, I use beginner method.
    3 x 3 x 3 best time was 59 seconds. Pitiful huh :b

    Also my best time for a mirror cube behind my back was 6:59.55.

  1095. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 19:44:08

    ----- JNetCube Session Statistics for Wed Mar 04 07:00:00 EST 2009 -----

    Cubes Solved: 12
    Total Pops: 1
    Average: 21.50

    Fastest Time: 17.96
    Slowest Time: 25.04
    Standard Deviation: 02.53

    Individual Times:
    1) 20.94
    2) 21.33
    3) 25.04
    4) 18.35
    5) 23.41
    6) 18.92
    7) 24.73
    8) 24.76
    9) 17.96
    10) 21.01
    11) 21.93
    12) 19.63

  1096. Tushix
    Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 05:13:19

    man you guys are getting good tongue.gif
    uh-oh gotta get better xD
    lol I'll do an avg. now

    ok the average was 19.20 facepalm.gif
    man... could of been better if I hadn't got so many 20+ solves

  1097. Pandubear
    Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 04:45:56

    I can only do layer-by-layer! D:

    What about patterns?

  1098. krouls
    Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 14:20:18

    I used to be a cuber...

  1099. LiEn
    Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 15:08:21

    I use Layer By Layer and my record is 33s^^
    want to learn other solution now.
    anybody who can recommend somethig?

    Edit: my average is 44s

  1100. Edor
    Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 18:37:34

    i can do it but thats every thing i am like 10 min for 1 3x3

  1101. Pandubear
    Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 02:18:52

    QUOTE (LiEn @ Mar 13 2009, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I use Layer By Layer and my record is 33s^^
    want to learn other solution now.
    anybody who can recommend somethig?

    Edit: my average is 44s


    With layer-by-layer? Nice.

  1102. wizwarezx
    Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 15:08:09

    You can continue with LBL actually, it can get u to around 28s avg. =)
    Then switch to fridrich. hahas! Thats what i did:)

  1103. 11Cichy11
    Date: Thu, Mar 19 2009 15:01:36


    My first solving wink.gif

  1104. Ste
    Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 01:19:15

    Cubes Solved: 12/12
    Number of Pops: 0
    Average: 23.37
    Standard Deviation: 3.34
    Best Time: 17.00
    Worst Time: 27.48
    Individual Times:
    1. 25.91 U' L' U L' R' D' U' F' L2 U' B2 L' F' L2 R' F D U F D2 B F L' R2 D2
    2. 24.52 R2 U L2 F' D2 B' F2 D' B' U B2 L2 U' F L2 R2 B' D' B' D2 R' D2 R B U2
    3. 19.76 R D2 B2 F2 D' B R' B' F' D L R B F L2 B2 F' L R D2 F' U' B2 D2 U
    4. 25.12 L2 R U' F' L' R D2 U L2 F L' R B' D2 L' B' F2 U L2 R F2 L' B D U2
    5. 24.42 L2 R D' U' L' R' U B2 F2 U' F' D L D2 U B F L F D2 L R' B' F2 R
    6. 26.06 F' R' B2 R' D' U' L R2 F D2 U2 F' U2 L2 R' B F2 U' L R B' F L U' F'
    7. 26.84 L2 R D B F2 L2 R2 D' B2 U2 F' L2 D2 U' F L' D' L' R U' L B' R2 F L2
    8. 17.00 U2 B' L2 U L D U' B2 D2 B' R2 B F U2 B2 F D2 B L' U2 R2 U' B2 L2 R2
    9. 20.47 F' R B' F2 L' U2 L2 R B F U' B F D' R B F D2 U2 L' R' U B2 L2 R2
    10. 24.27 R' B2 D U F R2 F' L2 B' F' D R D' U L2 U B2 F L R2 F2 D U' B2 R'
    11. 27.48 L' R F U' F2 U2 B F L R F D2 B' D' L B2 F' D B2 D' L2 R2 U2 L R'
    12. 18.62 L2 R2 B2 U' B' F2 D U' F' L2 U2 R' D2 U2 L B D U R D U2 R' U2 B' F


    I think I'm okay for a 3 month cuber....

  1105. bamman1108
    Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 03:22:28

    I can solve it with the Fridrich method, but I need to use 2-look OLLs and PLLs. I can average in the 30s, but I'm learning the Roux method to solve as well.

  1106. Rarka
    Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 21:03:52

    Average of 12:
    Average : 19.74
    Best time : 18.04
    Worst time : 23.19
    Standard deviation : 0.82

    19.47, 19.29, 18.90, 20.59, 19.05, 19.42, 19.59, (18.04), 20.78, 21.21, (23.19), 19.08
    smile.gif
    In one day I will have been speedcubing for 6 months.

  1107. KL-7
    Date: Mon, Mar 23 2009 07:56:35

    now I'm official cuber laugh.gif
    I've received perfect cubes from cube4you =) I like them...

    I can solve the cube in only about 90sec... I solve it like fridrich method but f2l I solve intuitively and use only about 6 algorithms for the last layer...

    and question to ppl who use fridrich... how have you learnt all the f2l pll and oll? I think I should learn f2l algorithms at first 'cos I spend too much time on solving first two layers... =)

  1108. Rarka
    Date: Mon, Mar 23 2009 13:14:25

    QUOTE (KL-7 @ Mar 23 2009, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    and question to ppl who use fridrich... how have you learnt all the f2l pll and oll? I think I should learn f2l algorithms at first 'cos I spend too much time on solving first two layers... =)


    No! Don't learn algorithms for F2l. Try to do it intuitively. Tutorial - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4GxLM_dZqg4
    F@L requiers a lot of training. At first you'll be doing it in few minutes, but after couple of days you'll be able to do it in 30 seconds.
    Watch it a lot of times and try to do it on your cube, soon you'll understand.
    Then you can learn 2-look oll and 2-look pll : First learn 10 orientations : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTYvklyOpVM
    Then start learning plls : first U1, U2, A1, A2, then H,T,Y,Z and you can solve all cases.
    To sum up : intuitive F2l + 10 olls + few plls. Good luck smile.gif

    Edit: new PB full step 16.33 ;]

  1109. KL-7
    Date: Mon, Mar 23 2009 14:07:33

    QUOTE (Rarka @ Mar 23 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No! Don't learn algorithms for F2l. Try to do it intuitively. Tutorial - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4GxLM_dZqg4
    F@L requiers a lot of training. At first you'll be doing it in few minutes, but after couple of days you'll be able to do it in 30 seconds.
    Watch it a lot of times and try to do it on your cube, soon you'll understand.

    thnx for advice... =)

    QUOTE (Rarka @ Mar 23 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Edit: new PB full step 16.33 ;]

    nice happy.gif

  1110. Floating Duck
    Date: Tue, Mar 24 2009 03:17:58

    got my 7x7 today and have solved it 3 times, my solve time is under 1 hour laugh.gif

    Decided to do an avg of 12 for the 3x3 after not solving for a long long time and i got 39.24 dry.gif

  1111. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, Mar 24 2009 14:33:59

    QUOTE (Floating Duck @ Mar 23 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    got my 7x7 today and have solved it 3 times, my solve time is under 1 hour laugh.gif

    Decided to do an avg of 12 for the 3x3 after not solving for a long long time and i got 39.24 dry.gif


    ohmy.gif 7x7! What else do you have now? And did you find your type D? XD XD XD

  1112. Floating Duck
    Date: Wed, Mar 25 2009 01:12:14

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Mar 24 2009, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ohmy.gif 7x7! What else do you have now? And did you find your type D? XD XD XD

    Do you mean type F? yeah i did and it still sucks

    I have an eastsheen 2x2, third type a, old type d, type f, second type a, 2 rubik's 3x3's, a smashed rubik's 4x4 all over my floor, eastsheen 4x4/5x5, v-cube 6(i lost it though =p) and 7

    WOW I'M A NERD.

    Edit: Are you still cubing? sub 20 avg now or what?

    Edit again: I also forgot that i have a square-1 and a megaminx laugh.gif

  1113. daniel0731ex
    Date: Wed, Mar 25 2009 06:11:59

    i've been cubing for 5 months now

    i uses LBL+2look OLL

    i averages around 31 sec, pb(lucky) is 18.36 sec, non-lucky 23 sec

  1114. Tushix
    Date: Thu, Mar 26 2009 07:24:15

    WOW Rarka, getting good fast @.@ At 6 months, you are as good as me when I was 10 months
    BTW Rarka, do you have a speedsolving account?

  1115. Rarka
    Date: Thu, Mar 26 2009 14:47:14

    QUOTE (Tushix @ Mar 26 2009, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    WOW Rarka, getting good fast @.@ At 6 months, you are as good as me when I was 10 months
    BTW Rarka, do you have a speedsolving account?


    Thanks smile.gif
    You mean WCA profile or what? I've never been on competition, so I don't have (but I might go on Warsaw Open on next saturday). And I'm waiting for my cube4you 3x3...
    Edit: The cube has just arrived! It's wonderful!

  1116. juanMO
    Date: Thu, Mar 26 2009 21:19:48

    i use fridrich but i get it done in 3min 27sec average im really slow

  1117. wizwarezx
    Date: Mon, Mar 30 2009 12:52:02

    Go slow...look ahead....hahas! JUst practice man....seriously....=)

  1118. Tushix
    Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 06:22:25

    QUOTE (Rarka @ Mar 26 2009, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Thanks smile.gif
    You mean WCA profile or what? I've never been on competition, so I don't have (but I might go on Warsaw Open on next saturday). And I'm waiting for my cube4you 3x3...
    Edit: The cube has just arrived! It's wonderful!

    no, an account for www.speedsolving.com

  1119. Kari
    Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 16:12:44

    I can solve it but not quickly...

  1120. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 20:46:33

    I got owned at the competition I went to a month back.
    I don't think I will ever go to another one, to be honest. Worst experience ever.

  1121. Stevieboy7
    Date: Thu, Apr 2 2009 18:46:47

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Apr 1 2009, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I got owned at the competition I went to a month back.
    I don't think I will ever go to another one, to be honest. Worst experience ever.

    with a 25sec. average?
    sheesh, musta been hardcores...

  1122. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Apr 2 2009 19:26:48

    QUOTE (Stevieboy7 @ Apr 2 2009, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    with a 25sec. average?
    sheesh, musta been hardcores...

    My recorded average there was 20.79 seconds.

  1123. Stevieboy7
    Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 00:27:09

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Apr 2 2009, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    My recorded average there was 20.79 seconds.

    OMG, beastly.
    they musta been so hardcore?!??
    wow...

  1124. TRoc
    Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 02:51:57

    Well, I got a magaminx and a square-1 the other day. I wub.gif wub.gif the megaminx, It's so awesome.
    I don't really like the square-1, it changes shape though laugh.gif

  1125. Rarka
    Date: Sun, Apr 5 2009 08:37:02

    Yesterday I was on Warsaw open smile.gif Tomasz Żaba Żołnowski did World Record in 3x3x3 avg : 10.63, times: 10.88; 10.19; 10.81; 9.43; DNF.
    I did avg 23.xx, with times: 21.xx, 22, 23, 24, 24 (don't remember, official results will be out soon).

    EDIT: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/result...hp?i=2009TOMA01 My profile on WCA smile.gif

  1126. MrData
    Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 04:20:53

    I'm averaging around 18-19 seconds usually now, pb single I broke on Friday with a 14.71.
    pb avg of 5 is 18.47, but I've done better than that without recording it. :/
    pb avg of 12 is 19.40, I think.
    Also, I sucked at yesterday's competition, with a 21.97 avg somehow.

  1127. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 16:06:58

    Ever since I got my Stackmat Timer, I have not taken an average...
    I do get sub-20s quite a bit more often than before (when I used to get one every 7 or 8 solves), and now it can happen like ever 2 or 3 solves, so I am kinda happy about that. Not so much practicing though, coz school....

  1128. Tushix
    Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 19:15:38

    I switched to ZZWV with CLS biggrin.gif
    It has sub 10 potential scratchchin.gif

  1129. OfficeWorks
    Date: Sat, Apr 18 2009 15:52:33

    yeah man


    my record solve 1:12

  1130. k-ryder
    Date: Tue, Apr 21 2009 03:21:37

    hooray! i learned f2l intuitively a while ago
    now i can solve it vaguely faster
    i think under 2 minutes now

    also, i got bored and did these:
    bonkura colour cube patterns (send me a cube with light blue and pink sides and i'll do those as well)
    http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq334/k...sc/Image002.jpg
    http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq334/k...sc/Image006.jpg
    http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq334/k...sc/Image007.jpg
    http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq334/k...sc/Image009.jpg
    http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq334/k...sc/Image011.jpg <- my favourite pattern
    http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq334/k...sc/Image012.jpg
    http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq334/k...sc/Image015.jpg
    http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq334/k...sc/Image016.jpg

  1131. Tushix
    Date: Sat, Apr 25 2009 01:37:35

    smile.gif
    I got a 15.98 avg. of 12
    and a 14.81 avg. of 5

  1132. Chief_Snake
    Date: Sat, Apr 25 2009 02:03:12

    I can do it, not fast, but I can do it. just under 2 minutes on a 3x3. I have chrome stickers that I bought on 1 of mine, and fluorescent ones on the other.

  1133. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Tue, Apr 28 2009 11:48:39

    Hahaha, I got banned from the speedsolving forums.

  1134. Tushix
    Date: Tue, Apr 28 2009 19:21:36

    how?

  1135. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 00:02:59

    It was actually really stupid, I shouldn't have gotten banned, I didn't even do anything that would constitute a ban.
    I didn't break any rules, I didn't flame any members, I didn't cause any problems for other members that could have been avoided by them ignoring me. I was pretty much banned for creating a topic that was serious and legitimate.
    Psht, people on there thought I was a pedophile and thought I kept making remarks about stuff like that. Oh well, I'm gonna probably make another account soon on a proxy or something.

  1136. hoiboy
    Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 00:06:05

    Any good tutorials on F2L now that I've gotten Modular to under 1 minute?

  1137. buhryan
    Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 02:10:26

    Haha. I used to do this before i found penspinning. laugh.gif

  1138. tamttru
    Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 12:28:54

    QUOTE (hoiboy @ Apr 29 2009, 02:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Any good tutorials on F2L now that I've gotten Modular to under 1 minute?

    Look up 'badmephisto' on youtube. It's an intuitive F2L though, but helped me alot happy.gif
    My average is only 45 sec though

  1139. MrData
    Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 00:25:07

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Apr 28 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    It was actually really stupid, I shouldn't have gotten banned, I didn't even do anything that would constitute a ban.
    I didn't break any rules, I didn't flame any members, I didn't cause any problems for other members that could have been avoided by them ignoring me. I was pretty much banned for creating a topic that was serious and legitimate.
    Psht, people on there thought I was a pedophile and thought I kept making remarks about stuff like that. Oh well, I'm gonna probably make another account soon on a proxy or something.

    Haha, I remember when they wanted to ban you, they kept posting quotes of you from around the forum that were pretty screwed up.
    If you do get a new profile, I suggest you don't post anything like that ever again...
    I hope it was all a joke too, cuz o.O

  1140. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 02:20:32

    When I do get a new account, I'm going to just troll and ban evade. It will be funny.

  1141. MrData
    Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 03:14:05

    Wow...
    Why not just post things that are worth reading?

  1142. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 16:05:35

    Because people on that forum are way too uptight and easy to troll.
    It's just funny.

  1143. Sanozucke
    Date: Fri, May 1 2009 03:21:34

    Yea i can solve Rubiks ^^
    My record now is 59s tongue.gif

  1144. MrData
    Date: Fri, May 1 2009 03:33:17

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ Apr 30 2009, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Because people on that forum are way too uptight and easy to troll.
    It's just funny.

    Well if they liked that kind of humor, they wouldn't have banned you.

  1145. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Sat, May 2 2009 04:36:19

    I really couldn't care less about what kind of humour those people like, as long as it makes me laugh, and believe me, I laughed a lot at the responses in my last thread before I got banned.

  1146. MrData
    Date: Mon, May 4 2009 05:01:11

    Eh...
    Whatever, I can't exactly stop you.

  1147. jiyo95
    Date: Fri, May 8 2009 14:25:16

    i started rubik's cube-ing last year, and my record was 25 seconds hehe (i use the fridrich method btw)
    but the 5x5 takes ages to solve, it took like 20 minutes or something lol T.T
    haven't solved cubes in a while tho, coz im more focused on pen spinning now biggrin.gif

  1148. Simplex【ヾ(^へ^)】
    Date: Sat, May 9 2009 07:10:05

    well i never really posted her but I started cubing like a month and a half ago and now my record is 46.58 seconds. average is like 58. i use th LBL method but as soo as i hit like 50 average i will begin to switch to a better method.

  1149. Tushix
    Date: Sun, May 10 2009 05:30:24

    In my life pen spinning has consumed cubing :| I now only solve 5ish 3x3x3s a day, 20ish 2x2x2s a day, and a couple of 4x4x4s.
    I just enjoy pen spinning too much tongue.gif

  1150. k-ryder
    Date: Sun, May 10 2009 06:27:25

    i got my average time down to about 1:30~1:40 minutes
    in the midst of learning 4 look LL
    i've memorised the PLL algorithms, now i just need to learn most of the OLL ones
    but at this stage, i can just use 3 algorithms to get the OLL

    and then after that its full OLL/PLL
    my friend only has the g-perms to go

  1151. Anikis
    Date: Sun, May 10 2009 19:14:57

    I can't finish the cube in 1 hour ... xD

  1152. NoSolutioN
    Date: Mon, May 11 2009 12:07:15

    I started to speed cube about 1 1/2 years ago. I stopped for a long time but my best speed was like... 51 seconds. :/ I had to many hobbies back then and it still continues.

  1153. RoastBeef
    Date: Thu, May 14 2009 03:04:10

    its more memborizing then manipulation to me =P

  1154. MrData
    Date: Thu, May 14 2009 06:24:33

    QUOTE (RoastBeef @ May 13 2009, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    its more memorizing then manipulation to me =P

    Once you get past all of the memorization, it becomes basically all manipulation and recognition/lookahead.

  1155. RoastBeef
    Date: Thu, May 14 2009 22:45:41

    ya but its still more memborizing than manipulation

  1156. LiEn
    Date: Thu, May 14 2009 23:18:49

    i have a record at 26s but that was lucky. my avg is around 35-40.
    I've just recived a order from cube4you: Pyraminx, Megaminx, Square One, Super Square One, and alot of 3x3s^^
    going to buy V-cube collection soon =)

  1157. Stevieboy7
    Date: Fri, May 15 2009 02:04:24

    Just so you guys know, if you arent in v-cube newsletter, the prices of all of the v-cubes went down, ALOT.

  1158. Lanaro
    Date: Fri, May 15 2009 02:43:24

    I think my record was around 45s for the 3x3x3.

  1159. Ste
    Date: Sat, May 16 2009 20:27:47

    Cubes Solved: 12/12
    Number of Pops: 0
    Average: 18.88
    Standard Deviation: 1.87
    Best Time: 15.50
    Worst Time: 21.88
    Individual Times:
    1. 15.50 B2 F2 D L R' B F R2 D' R' U' R' D U B' F2 D U L' U' B R' U' F2 D
    2. 17.25 D' R' D2 F2 U' L U L' B D' U' F L' R2 B' F L' U' R2 D' B' D F2 R' U2
    3. 19.11 R2 F R' F' L B' F L' R B F' U2 R D U2 B' L F' U2 B F2 L2 B' F2 R2
    4. 21.88 D U' F2 U2 B2 R U2 B' R2 B2 F2 U B U2 L2 U' L' B F' L2 B2 F R2 F2 L2
    5. 16.53 B' L2 U2 L R2 B L D U F' U' B' F L' R B' R' F U2 F' L' D B2 R2 D2
    6. 17.54 B2 D2 F' D U L2 R2 D2 L F R U' B2 F2 D R2 D B D U2 B' F U L' R2
    7. 19.49 R' B U2 L R2 D2 U' B' F2 L' R2 B F2 D' B2 F' D2 B2 F' U2 L' U' L2 B' U2
    8. 17.91 L' R F L R' D F' R' B' L2 R' D' B' F U L' B2 F2 D' U F' D B2 R2 U2
    9. 20.24 B2 F L' U L' B2 F U F D B' F2 L' D' L' D2 F2 L' R D' U F2 D U' B
    10. 19.47 L' R' B' L' R2 U2 L U' B F2 L2 R2 B2 F L2 R' D' U B' F' L2 R' B2 F2 L
    11. 20.44 R B' D' U2 B2 F D U2 B2 D2 B F2 R U' F' R2 U2 L2 B' F' D R2 F2 L2 R
    12. 21.25 U2 L' R' U' B2 F' D2 R' U2 F U R2 U B2 F' U' B2 F L U L2 B' F' L B'

    My best average so far! I r a 5 month cuber.

  1160. Tushix
    Date: Sun, May 17 2009 05:06:43

    QUOTE (Stevieboy7 @ May 14 2009, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Just so you guys know, if you arent in v-cube newsletter, the prices of all of the v-cubes went down, ALOT.

    Just going off what he said:
    They went down more then 50%
    1 year aniversarry so get in quick if you are planning to get one tongue.gif

  1161. The Dane
    Date: Sun, May 17 2009 19:53:57

    Daaaaaaaamn... Anyone has tips on memorizing Fridrich algorithms?
    I can do layer by layer under 1 minute so I want to learn Fridrich.
    I already started once but the memorizing made me crazy. Now I've already forgotten everything... =(
    So I can still only do lbl.

    It'd be nice if I could memorize them quite fast... Or with little time effort a day, because I also have to keep up with my other manipulations.

    (Oh and Rubik's Cube IS manipulation... The fingertricks and stuff. If you really want to be able to turn the cube fast, you have to train. And because you're doing it with your hands (mostly), it's a manipulation.)

  1162. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, May 18 2009 03:23:28

    Don't memorize the Fridrich algs, try to do it intuitively and understand what it is that you are trying to accomplish with each corner/edge pairing.

  1163. MrData
    Date: Mon, May 18 2009 05:08:48

    I went to a competition yesterday.
    First round sucked, 19.05 single and 22.68 avg.
    Second round I got a 14.19 single and 19.51 avg.
    Another competition on the 23rd, so yay.

  1164. Tushix
    Date: Mon, May 18 2009 06:51:46

    nice single

  1165. MrData
    Date: Tue, May 19 2009 00:37:48

    Thanks. biggrin.gif
    It was nonlucky, but probably the luckiest nonlucky possible.
    Sune and T perm, lol.

  1166. ION
    Date: Tue, May 19 2009 06:20:51

    QUOTE (Tim @ Oct 19 2007, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I thought petrus was mainly used for least number of moves. I heard that you could do it pretty fast, but is F2L generally faster?

    Petrus is the best for least moves solves but geberally is not faster than F2L for speed solving. Lars cant even get a good time (i saw it in person) hahahaha.

  1167. EleteN00b
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 04:42:41

    NOOOO PETRUS IS THE BEST METHOD EVER
    f2l is made by a weird guy/girl

  1168. ION
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 04:51:56

    QUOTE (EleteN00b @ May 20 2009, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    NOOOO PETRUS IS THE BEST METHOD EVER
    f2l is made by a weird guy/girl

    Jiri/jessica Fridrich may have been a guy and a girl but at least he/she made a method that doesnt suck

  1169. EleteN00b
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 04:56:25

    QUOTE (ION @ May 20 2009, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Jiri/jessica Fridrich may have been a guy and a girl but at least he/she made a method that doesnt suck


    that may be true but some people have been getting pretty good times using petrus
    like 14-12 sec i think
    idk if anyone has gotten faster

  1170. ION
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 05:04:25

    QUOTE (EleteN00b @ May 20 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    that may be true but some people have been getting pretty good times using petrus
    like 14-12 sec i think
    idk if anyone has gotten faster


    I went to a comp and Petrus was there and he didnt get a very good time... the roux method is pretty popular and people are getting fast times with it.

  1171. EleteN00b
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 05:11:52

    QUOTE (ION @ May 21 2009, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I went to a comp and Petrus was there and he didnt get a very good time... the roux method is pretty popular and people are getting fast times with it.


    whats the difference between them arnt they kinda the same
    dont you build a 3x1x2 block thne on both sides then solve the middle or sumthin

  1172. ION
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 05:34:00

    QUOTE (EleteN00b @ May 20 2009, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    whats the difference between them arnt they kinda the same
    dont you build a 3x1x2 block thne on both sides then solve the middle or sumthin

    in F2L you get a cross then form pairs to solve the first 2 layers of the cube then go on to OLL and PLL algs to solve. in petrus you solve a 3x2x2 (right dimensions?) the use R,R',U,U's to solve the rest of the cube.

  1173. EleteN00b
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 05:41:30

    QUOTE (ION @ May 21 2009, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    in F2L you get a cross then form pairs to solve the first 2 layers of the cube then go on to OLL and PLL algs to solve. in petrus you solve a 3x2x2 (right dimensions?) the use R,R',U,U's to solve the rest of the cube.


    is f2l a faster way to solve because there are more ways to directally get the result you want
    and what is that one way of memorizing all the algs possible lol

  1174. MrData
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 05:43:11

    Fridrich>Petrus

    Also, F2L just takes understanding the concept of it, then you can do it intuitively.
    I only use 2 or 3 algs with F2L, really.

  1175. Tushix
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 05:56:44

    Roux > All

    I'm not committed enough to practice it though huh(1).gif

  1176. phua sy
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 16:33:34

    How Did ur start learning rubik'scube?i might be learning it someday lol. for experienced rubik's solvers,does it benefits your brain?

  1177. Metalm3
    Date: Thu, May 21 2009 23:23:46

    Wow, I see so many ways for solving a rubiks cube. Is there an exact number of official techniques? I got lots of rubiks cube at home but I hardly touch them. So I'm beginning to feel interested ^^

  1178. phua sy
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 03:43:19

    QUOTE (Metalm3 @ May 22 2009, 07:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wow, I see so many ways for solving a rubiks cube. Is there an exact number of official techniques? I got lots of rubiks cube at home but I hardly touch them. So I'm beginning to feel interested ^^

    yup there is

  1179. Metalm3
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 05:53:02

    QUOTE (phua sy @ May 22 2009, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    yup there is


    Give me the names XD

  1180. phua sy
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 06:17:23

    Fridrich algorithms
    Lars Petrus method
    waterman's method

  1181. Tushix
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 06:42:46

    Fridrich
    Roux
    Petrus
    Triangular Fiasco
    LBL
    Corners first
    ZZ
    ZB
    waterman
    heise
    ...more that I can't be bothered listing

    and now for differant LL methods
    MGLS-PLL
    OLL-PLL
    4LLL
    COLL-ZBLL
    COLL-EPLL
    again... more that I can't be bothered listing

  1182. Metalm3
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 06:49:19

    QUOTE (phua sy @ May 22 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Fridrich algorithms
    Lars Petrus method
    waterman's method


    QUOTE (Tushix @ May 22 2009, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Fridrich
    Roux
    Petrus
    Triangular Fiasco
    LBL
    Corners first
    ZZ
    ZB
    waterman
    heise
    ...more that I can't be bothered listing

    and now for differant LL methods
    MGLS-PLL
    OLL-PLL
    4LLL
    COLL-ZBLL
    COLL-EPLL
    again... more that I can't be bothered listing


    o.O Time to wiki a bit. Thanks.

  1183. phua sy
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 07:00:05

    no prob we are ''glad'' to help. nao go

  1184. Tushix
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 07:07:28

    http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

    all you need to know

  1185. Metalm3
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 07:12:31

    QUOTE (phua sy @ May 22 2009, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    no prob we are ''glad'' to help. nao go


    Sheesh.

    QUOTE (Tushix @ May 22 2009, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


    Lol. That's exactly what I was looking for. Great biggrin.gif Thanks.

  1186. phua sy
    Date: Fri, May 22 2009 07:15:59

    yippie nver saw a link

  1187. Kari-Chan
    Date: Mon, May 25 2009 06:22:19

    what method is used by the fastest cuber?

  1188. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Mon, May 25 2009 16:23:59

    Fridrich is the most widely used, so it stands to reason that the fastest cuber (currently) uses that method.
    I'm not going to say which method is the fastest, since I really don't have enough knowledge in that area to make a concrete judgement. I will however, say that Roux is awesome, but I can't do it worth poop.

  1189. ION
    Date: Wed, May 27 2009 22:23:13

    QUOTE (TurbulentTurtle @ May 25 2009, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Fridrich is the most widely used, so it stands to reason that the fastest cuber (currently) uses that method.
    I'm not going to say which method is the fastest, since I really don't have enough knowledge in that area to make a concrete judgement. I will however, say that Roux is awesome, but I can't do it worth poop.


    People have been pretty good times with the roux method but its still not as consistent as the Fridrich method... or so i hear.

  1190. TurbulentTurtle
    Date: Fri, May 29 2009 01:25:46

    QUOTE (ION @ May 27 2009, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    People have been pretty good times with the roux method but its still not as consistent as the Fridrich method... or so i hear.

    Tons of speedcubing methods have the potential to do very well time-wise, I won't say which one is superior to the other because there's really no good way to measure it, as far as I know. Some are more efficient than others, while others are easier to understand.
    It's not really consistency in my opinion, but more of what kind of method you prefer. Block building, or just going layers.

  1191. Rarka
    Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 11:24:27

    Yeah, finally I did quite nice average of 12 (I used to have good single times but I mess my average in the best moments)

    Average : 18.01
    Best time : 15.77
    Worst time : 21.05
    Standard deviation : 0.97

    15.xx = 1 : {15.77}
    16.xx = 3 : {16.82, 16.83, 16.73}
    17.xx = 1 : {17.74}
    18.xx = 5 : {18.49, 18.49, 18.53, 18.53, 18.22}
    19.xx = 1 : {19.69}
    21.xx = 1 : {21.05}

    :-)

    Few days ago I started learning old Ponchmann method for blindfolded cubing, I can solve cube easly with looking using this method and sometimes I can solve the edges blindfolded.


  1192. Tushix
    Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 19:55:35

    That's great Rarka smile.gif
    I use 3OP for blindfold

  1193. k-ryder
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 02:28:42

    the ponchmann method is actually quite easy.... after you do the rememborising bit....
    rarka, how do you memorise the peices?

    hehe, it was going to be my goal to try and solve it blindfolded during my exam period, once i've finished all of my exams.... been about 5 days and i haven't tried much
    its the memorisation phase that i dont like (need a good method...)

  1194. MrData
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 04:48:27

    I currently use Old Pochmann and for memorization I use letters for the edges and visual for corners.
    Just assign letters or numbers to every sticker on every edge and it really helps memo.
    Visual is just memorizing the order of the corners you swap and the side of each corner that needs to be swapped.
    I just memorize the place and color for this.
    It's easy because there are few corners to memo.
    Good luck.

  1195. k-ryder
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 08:07:13

    i tried the memorisation technique on poch's page, but the corners were hard
    the corner memo you said is what i initially thought of, put a letter to each corner and side colour
    the edges are fine now

    currently writing all the swaps on paper, hiding my hands+cube under the desk, then work off my sheet
    fail 3 out of 3 times, yay!
    mostly due to:-
    not figuring out all the swaps (which is why i'm on the computer now, getting that formula pochmann wrote)
    screwing up the corners (so i might switch to the letter/colour)

  1196. Rarka
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 08:31:58

    I use Old Ponchmann method too, tutorial from badmephisto.
    I memorize edges like MrData said, "Just assign letters or numbers to every sticker on every edge and it really helps memo" It's quite easy.
    One day I was just imagining the cube, thinking of random letter and trying to find the proper edge, just practising. The next day it was well working.
    Corners are for me more difficult. I use the same method as I use for edges : each edge has it's own letter (of course one corner has three letters). It's easy to remember "top letter" : A, D, G, J. When I have to find L, I'm thinking "after which of these: A, D, G, J is the L?" Answer is J, then it's easy to count "J,K,L" The same on the bottom : M, P, S, W. I have to find R, I know it's after P, so I count P, Q, R. The entire memorizing looks like : GACFMOXRUJ parity DMYUI
    Yesterday I managed to do my first blindfolded solve with memo written in notepad. It was the first time when I did all the setups correctly smile.gif Now I'm trying to remember only the edges and solve the edges. In few days I'll start memorizing whole cube.
    I'm gonna try visual method for cornes like MrData said.
    PS I tried to learn 3OP, but it's more difficult than Ponchmann and I found very good video of Old Ponchmann by badmephisto, so I started learning it. Probably later I'll change it to 3OP.

  1197. MrData
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 19:45:10

    Yeah visual corners should help quite a bit.
    I tend to do 2x2 BLD a lot just for fun, and I avg between 30-45s with visual memo.
    I even had a 25s solve once, with a slightly lucky scramble.
    For example, I'll walk through corners of a solve. I'm using 2x2.
    Scramble: U F U F2 U F2 U2 F' R F U' F2 R' F' U R' U2 F
    Scramble competition style, Green front, white top.
    And since this is 2x2 I'm using, I can choose which way I hold it, and always start with at least one corner solved.
    That doesn't happen on 3x3. wink.gif Also, I solve BLD with blue front, yellow top.

    x2 (UFL and LDB solved)
    Back left is buffer.
    Memo:
    Tap DBR and say white.
    Tap FDL and say blue.
    Tap UBR and say yellow.
    Tap FRD and say blue.
    Tap URF and say yellow.
    You can go through this as much as you like, but I usually only do it a few times at most.
    Then put blindfold on, and set up the colors to the buffer to solve.
    So I might as well put execution on here...

    White is on D, so R2 (y perm) R2
    Blue is on F, so D (modified y perm, R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R) which is just a y perm without the starting and ending Fs
    Yellow is on top, so U (j perm) U'
    Blue on front, so R (y perm) R'
    Yellow on top, so just y perm.
    That's it.

    This whole post is probably rather unnecessary, but I just wanted to make it clear.
    If you do this on a 3x3, it will solve corners, disregarding centers and depending on what algorithms you use to permute the corners, it may or may not mess up edges.
    Hopefully this helps somewhat.

  1198. k-ryder
    Date: Wed, Jun 17 2009 07:33:56

    i did my first semi-successful blindfold with memo sheet today
    i say semi because i figured out that i have to fix the parity errors

    the one of pochmann's page isn't that helpful
    are there any good ways to solve the paritys?

    looked on badmephisto's clarification vid
    found out its an r perm

    how should i do this?
    u-adjustment?
    do it with the f/u faces?

    i hate the 2nd r perm on cubefreak page, so i usually mirror the first on the left hand
    i do that with my other perms n, j, u, a

  1199. MrData
    Date: Wed, Jun 17 2009 08:12:03

    For parity I use the lefty R perm.
    U' L U2 L' U2 L F' L' U' L U L F L2 U2
    I don't know what the cubefreak alg is, but this one is ok for me.
    You could also do this other R perm, which I think is a bit slower, but easier to do.
    R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R' U'
    Sometimes I'm faster with it, sometimes I'm not.

  1200. k-ryder
    Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 05:38:19

    yay! first blindfold solve with memo on a sheet
    i was so happy that moment!

    now its a problem of remembering the cycles

  1201. Kingspade350
    Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 05:56:41

    i have been cubing about 2 years and can solve them under 30 seconds no prob, my fastest time is 20:82 seconds. My cube broke so i can't work on getting faster right now but ya

  1202. LiEn
    Date: Fri, Oct 16 2009 08:50:38

    2x2-5x5 Relay 6:28.56
    V-cube 7 Solve 9:55.00
    Trying to get 6 min on the 2x2-5x5 Relay
    and just faster at the V-cube 7

  1203. MrData
    Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 04:41:24

    QUOTE (LiEn @ Oct 16 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


    That sounded like fun, so I did it.
    5:54.51
    My 5x5 is my worst one, my recognition was horrible because I don't practice it anymore.
    If I were as fast as I used to be on 5x5, sub-5 should have been easy.
    Time to practice?

  1204. LiEn
    Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 16:00:36

    QUOTE (MrData @ Oct 17 2009, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    That sounded like fun, so I did it.
    5:54.51
    My 5x5 is my worst one, my recognition was horrible because I don't practice it anymore.
    If I were as fast as I used to be on 5x5, sub-5 should have been easy.
    Time to practice?

    Nice =)
    i got 6:02 yesterday. But I always get bad times when im recording (nervous) sleep(1).gif
    I guess so^^

  1205. RoastBeef
    Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 03:15:10

    ive been inspired to do some serious cubing pratice.
    right now i can only solve it, hella slow tho(over 2 mins xD), i dont know what algorithm i use tho, but its the dan brown one (on youtube)
    i memborized it so i dont have to loook at the piece of paper
    what do u suggest i learn next for a faster cubing?
    what is a good algorithm you suggest?

    also, when i twist my cube, it always gets stuckish and i have to twist it really hard or do it consecutively for it to move
    i heard solutions of putting vaseline in it, but wont it make the inside all wet and yucky?

  1206. TRoc
    Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 04:11:54

    QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Oct 19 2009, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ive been inspired to do some serious cubing pratice.
    right now i can only solve it, hella slow tho(over 2 mins xD), i dont know what algorithm i use tho, but its the dan brown one (on youtube)
    i memborized it so i dont have to loook at the piece of paper
    what do u suggest i learn next for a faster cubing?
    what is a good algorithm you suggest?

    also, when i twist my cube, it always gets stuckish and i have to twist it really hard or do it consecutively for it to move
    i heard solutions of putting vaseline in it, but wont it make the inside all wet and yucky?

    My first piece of advice is to forget everything you learned from dan brown; HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE method. I really can't stress that any harder. It's terrible. Theres no good transiton to a faster method after learning that one. Find this person's 3x3 tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/user/RobH0629 In terms of getting faster, this is the beginner method you want to learn.

    Don't use vaseline for the love of god. If it's a normal storebought cube, find jig-a-loo at home-depot or something and use that. But be careful, don't let it sit in the cube when it's wet. You need to work it in.

  1207. k-ryder
    Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 09:59:51

    why shouldn't you use vaseline?

    also, my friend got a V-cube 7 today, tried doing the centres
    found myself physically exhausted after solving only 1 centre....

    ... he could do a 2x2-7x7 (+megaminx?) relay now.... if he had a spare hour... maybe 45 minutes

  1208. LiEn
    Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 11:35:45

    QUOTE (k-ryder @ Oct 20 2009, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    why shouldn't you use vaseline?

    vaseline dissolves the plastic and there will be much plastic dust.
    In my opinion silicon spray (NOT Jig-a-loo) works better. disassemble your cube and then spray silicon spray on the pieces and the core individual. Then assemble it and work it in.
    If you are using Jig-a-loo just take off 2 corners and 1 edge of the cube and then spray jig-a-loo in the gap. then put the piece back in the cube and work it in for 5-10min. =)

  1209. RoastBeef
    Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 00:14:19

    im using the 25th year rubix cube, does it come apart? its my only rubix and i dont want to break it.
    also the stickers are falling apart, well kinda, the sticker has two parts, one is just a normal sticker(white) then other is a clear plastic layer that gives it the color, the color part is peeling off a lot, example my blue side has thier stickers peeling off, when its off (not all the way off, but just not connecting to the cube), its white, and the whole side is like 20% white
    is there a cheaper way than buying a new cube?

    Edit : I looked into TRoc's beginner tut and it was basically the same as the dan brown one -.-
    I want to challenge myself and learn something harder so i can aim for less than 1 min
    If somebody has time to waste, they can tell me a short pro/con list of diff types of methods

  1210. Pandamonium
    Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 04:49:22

    I'm averaging around 53 seconds (Thank you Cubetimer) biggrin.gif
    Much better than my old 2 minute solves when I first started 2 weeks ago tongue.gif
    I've got my Petrus down on my OH solves (still averaging at 2 minutes with my left hand) D:

    If I got time, I will make you a tut, but school has been busy lately >->

  1211. FChzy101220
    Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 20:47:00

    i average like 45 seconds i pick it up every once in while
    i use the fridrich method and only memorized 10 algorithms i thought it was an easy method
    and i didnt understand the other methods

  1212. RoastBeef
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 00:34:36

    so after 5 min of scanning though wiki i learned this
    2 main rubix solving methods
    petrus = block 2x2 to 3x3 etc (only 7ish algorithm to memorize)
    fridrich = layered, LOTS of algorithm to memorize
    the only method i know is the beginner layered one.

    what are the pros/cons of both methods?
    and since their completely different (correct me if im wrong) it would be dumb to learn both.

    what do u reccommend?

  1213. k-ryder
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 04:33:29

    QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Oct 23 2009, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    so after 5 min of scanning though wiki i learned this
    2 main rubix solving methods
    petrus = block 2x2 to 3x3 etc (only 7ish algorithm to memorize)
    fridrich = layered, LOTS of algorithm to memorize
    the only method i know is the beginner layered one.

    what are the pros/cons of both methods?
    and since their completely different (correct me if im wrong) it would be dumb to learn both.

    what do u reccommend?


    most speedcubers use fridrich method
    78 algorithms, but it can be cut down into manageable parts (try 4 look last layer)
    i'm pretty sure i've posted something on 4lll somewhere in this thread

    dont ask me about petris....

  1214. fazrulz
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 10:02:50

    I am Australia's fastest solver, with an average solve time of 10.5 seconds or so. My pb is 6.41 (lucky xD)

  1215. RoastBeef
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 16:40:59

    ya im gonna start learning the fridrich method, looked into the shorten form for OLL and PLL the 2look one.
    how long would it take about?
    also, i still cant seem to break apart my rubix =[

  1216. k-ryder
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:34:25

    i do 2 look oll and 1 look pll (2 in the case of g-perms)+ f2l
    that takes me on average 50 seconds
    my look aheads not that great, i'ld say 40 seconds avg

  1217. MrData
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 13:59:19

    QUOTE (fazrulz @ Oct 23 2009, 03:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I am Australia's fastest solver, with an average solve time of 10.5 seconds or so. My pb is 6.41 (lucky xD)

    Ohai faz.

  1218. RoastBeef
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 16:42:14

    yay, just learned f2l and starting to memborize the 2 look oll

    edit:one of my blue side sticker fell off completely the rest are fine except this one green one




    so should i remove all the blue to make ti blavck?

  1219. Stevieboy7
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 21:00:37

    QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Oct 24 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    yay, just learned f2l and starting to memborize the 2 look oll

    edit:one of my blue side sticker fell off completely the rest are fine except this one green one

    Spoiler:

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    so should i remove all the blue to make ti blavck?

    Take the blue off for now, while you wait for the Cubesmith Stickers/tiles that you are now going to order. (http://cubesmith.com/)
    I recommend you buy some of my extra ones, i have them listed here http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16167

  1220. RoastBeef
    Date: Sun, Oct 25 2009 00:13:27

    i put blue sharpie all over them but the green one fell of (they drop like shit)
    i dont have a green sharpie and removing all of it will cause me to get the colors all mixed up (dont know how to explain)

  1221. MrData
    Date: Thu, Oct 29 2009 04:06:16

    Last weekend I went to a comp.
    13.83 single 3x3
    17.06 avg 3x3
    2.63 single 2x2
    5.18 avg 2x2
    :/

    Also, today I had 2.96 avg of 5 2x2 and 3.36 avg of 12.

  1222. Prince
    Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 12:11:43

    Hey, Im interested in starting cubing but I dont know where to start tongue.gif Any one help me out please?

    Thanks ALOt!

  1223. UEDan
    Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 14:45:19

    If you buy an official cube it comes with an instructions manual. Thats a decent way to start, its slow, but it'll get started.

  1224. lobster
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 01:36:36

    1:39:65 new record

    F2L and then the LBL for the last layer

    I've been cubing for like 2 weeks, and all of the algorithms for the oll and pll are quite overwhelming.

    @ Prince, go to youtube, and search how to solve a rubik's cube and use the one with like 14 million views. That's where I started. Its the beginner Layer by Layer method. its slow, but can be figured out after an hour or two.

  1225. CheeseSpin
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 02:45:16

    ?

  1226. Tushix
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 03:06:40

    QUOTE (CheeseSpin @ Nov 1 2009, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I started cubing about 2 years ago. I started off averaging about 2 minutes then within a month I got down to about 1 minute. Eventually I kept training and now I average about 6 seconds at home and about 11 seconds at competitions (understand the stress and nervousness before you start flaming). I'm in the top 5 cubers in the world now. I use type D DIY cube.


    What is your real name then facepalm.gif

  1227. RoastBeef
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 03:25:03

    QUOTE (CheeseSpin @ Nov 1 2009, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I started cubing about 2 years ago. I started off averaging about 2 minutes then within a month I got down to about 1 minute. Eventually I kept training and now I average about 6 seconds at home and about 11 seconds at competitions (understand the stress and nervousness before you start flaming). I'm in the top 5 cubers in the world now. I use type D DIY cube.

    6 seconds? i call bullshit tongue.gif

  1228. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 03:45:52

    QUOTE (CheeseSpin @ Nov 1 2009, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Obviously you don't think before you say. I said 6 second average. Not I always average 6 seconds. All other top cubers have also averaged 6-8 seconds at least once.


    Videos. Now.

  1229. fazrulz
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 03:53:23

    QUOTE (CheeseSpin @ Nov 2 2009, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Obviously you don't think before you say. I said 6 second average. Not I always average 6 seconds. All other top cubers have also averaged 6-8 seconds at least once.


    Dude, fuck off, you are an insult to people like me who have worked to get sub 10 averages. Don't lie. And also, No cuber has done a sub 9 average of 12 yet, so I have no clue what you are talking about with the 6-8 seconds remark.

    Btw, it's pretty funny, seeing as you have no clue what you are talking about, whereas we all do. And you refuse to provide a full name, so ya.. that's kinda dumb. The cubing community knows who all of the top cubers are, and to say you average 6 seconds is just stupid.

    I am one of the top in the world, and I have only done a few 8 second averages of 5.

  1230. fazrulz
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 04:01:23

    QUOTE (CheeseSpin @ Nov 2 2009, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yes they have. I know Yu personally, he's averaged 6 before. I believe Erik's averaged about 8 and Mats averaged either 7 or 8 I forgot. And my name is Yumu Tabuchi, I'm a resident of Japan..Sorry, my English isn't best..


    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Thankyou for providing a source of entertainment for me and some friends.

    You are not Yumu Tabuchi, as I can tell from your US flag, and your location is California. You fail so hard.

    QUOTE
    From: California

    Country: (US flag)


    Yu has not averaged 6 at all, and Erik has not averaged 8, and Mats has not averaged 7 or 8. You fail again.

    So ya, to sum it up, you fail.

  1231. yocuppajoe
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 04:02:39

    This guy is real I met him at a cubing competition. I've even made a spinning video with him.

  1232. CheeseSpin
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 04:04:10

    QUOTE (fazrulz @ Nov 1 2009, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Thankyou for providing a source of entertainment for me and some friends.

    You are not Yumu Tabuchi, as I can tell from your US flag, and your location is California. You fail so hard.

    Yu has not averaged 6 at all, and Erik has not averaged 8, and Mats has not averaged 7 or 8. You fail again.

    So ya, to sum it up, you fail.



    .

  1233. Forte
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 04:04:38

    You have NO idea who Yumu is.

    Could you stop being such a disgrace to actual speedcubers please? They actually try. And you do not. I am sure we could give you a scramble and you would give us the crappiest F2L and some optimal PLL that is outdated by 5 years. Heck, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

    Also YUMU using Type D? REALLY? REALLY? DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO BAD AT LYING?

  1234. CheeseSpin
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 04:07:59

    QUOTE (Forte @ Nov 1 2009, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You have NO idea who Yumu is.

    Could you stop being such a disgrace to actual speedcubers please? They actually try. And you do not. I am sure we could give you a scramble and you would give us the crappiest F2L and some optimal PLL that is outdated by 5 years. Heck, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

    Also YUMU using Type D? REALLY? REALLY? DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO BAD AT LYING?

    .

  1235. Forte
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 04:13:31

    How about I give you a scramble for FMC, and you make a solution?

    O WAIT, YOU CAN'T.

  1236. fazrulz
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 04:13:48

    QUOTE (CheeseSpin @ Nov 2 2009, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yes, I use type D. I don't use the new models though, they are very bad. The old ones are some of the best cubes out there in my opinion. And yes, I'm an actual speedcuber. Go ahead believe what you want. happy.gif


    Yes, I believe you are a cuber, but you do not average 6 seconds. If you do, please either post a video average of 5, or give your solution to this scramble.

    L' F2 B R2 F2 U B U F B D F R' F L F2 L2 D L' B' F2 R D2 B' R

  1237. Tushix
    Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 05:19:45

    Lol... It's funny how that the only friend you have on UPSB claims to have seen you >.> FAIL!!!

    If you are Yumu, what colour scheme do you use?

    Oh, BTW "Yumu", I was just talking to you on MSN... What method did we discuss again?

  1238. RoastBeef
    Date: Tue, Nov 3 2009 00:19:25

    QUOTE (CheeseSpin @ Nov 1 2009, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I started cubing about 2 years ago. I started off averaging about 2 minutes then within a month I got down to about 1 minute. Eventually I kept training and now I average about 6 seconds at home and about 11 seconds at competitions (understand the stress and nervousness before you start flaming). I'm in the top 5 cubers in the world now. I use type D DIY cube.

    to be honest, i doubt you can even get 11 seconds

    and btw, whats with all ur edited post? too ashamed?

  1239. Caedus
    Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 04:40:13

    I averaged about 25 seconds and had a Lucky PB of 17 with Fridrich before I switched to Roux. (So much more fun) Now I average 48 seconds and have a non-lucky PB of 35, as I haven't been using Roux for very long.
    Cubing is my main hobby, but I'm looking into pen spinning as it seems fun.

  1240. Raine
    Date: Mon, Nov 9 2009 21:05:29

    I average around 40 seconds, although I haven't cubed in a while, so I'm probably slower now.

  1241. FChzy101220
    Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 05:04:52

    Yeah got 30 seconds but i cant seem to go any faster dry.gif

  1242. Pen Islandâ„¢
    Date: Sat, Nov 14 2009 12:13:50

    Ive been cubing for a like a month or so, and i can solve it around 1:20 sec.

    now im learning the faster f2l method, the one where you solve the 2 layers at the same time (?)
    But now i need a intermediate method to solve the Last layer faster as well. Any video tutorials for this please?

    Also, wot do you do if ur cube is the newer version with the blue side opposite to the white side? How do you take the pieces off (to lubricate the cube)

    Thanks in advance smile.gif

  1243. FChzy101220
    Date: Sat, Nov 14 2009 14:19:16

    QUOTE (Pen Islandâ„¢ @ Nov 14 2009, 06:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ive been cubing for a like a month or so, and i can solve it around 1:20 sec.

    now im learning the faster f2l method, the one where you solve the 2 layers at the same time (?)
    But now i need a intermediate method to solve the Last layer faster as well. Any video tutorials for this please?

    Also, wot do you do if ur cube is the newer version with the blue side opposite to the white side? How do you take the pieces off (to lubricate the cube)

    Thanks in advance smile.gif

    the blue's opposite of the white? just solve it regularly and if ever get new stickers then you can put it on the right way
    you turn it 45 degrees then pop out the middle piece

    Spoiler:

    for lubricating it alot of people say to use petroleum jelly it works but silicon spray is better

  1244. Pen Islandâ„¢
    Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 01:20:57

    i found a 'silicone spray' at home i think, but the can says - "silicone free"? is it still ok to use it?

  1245. shadowspinner
    Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 01:51:22

    QUOTE (Ceedgee @ Sep 9 2007, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Anyone that does this funny manipulation?

    Got my first cube soon 3 years ago, but wasn't able to solve it until about 2 years ago. I've tried to improve my solvetime from time to time. Haven't gotten very good at it yet since my best time is just above a minute.

    I'm using Lars Petrus method of solving it. Can find a guide here: http://lar5.com/cube/
    Most of the people I see solving uses F2L, but I like this way better smile.gif

    Cubing has gotten pretty popular among swedish spinners, curious how it is outside SweSpin.

    Edit: Fixed spelling.


    the guy on youtube helps best try him

  1246. k-ryder
    Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 01:52:51

    a silicon spray that doesn't have silicon????
    i think the can is misleading and you should throw it out
    but check it doesn't have any oil based stuff in there, if it doesn't, it should be ok

  1247. Pen Islandâ„¢
    Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 13:22:41

    This is the spray can i have::



    it says :
    stops sqeaks, drives out moisture, cleans and protects, loosens rusted parts, frees sticky mechanisms... Silicone free xD

    thanks in advance laugh.gif

  1248. FChzy101220
    Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 18:30:53

    QUOTE (Pen Islandâ„¢ @ Nov 22 2009, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    This is the spray can i have::


    Spoiler:


    it says :
    stops sqeaks, drives out moisture, cleans and protects, loosens rusted parts, frees sticky mechanisms... Silicone free xD

    thanks in advance laugh.gif

    ya im pretty sure you can use that i think my cousin used it i know that it stops the spring noise but im but sure about lubrication

  1249. TRoc
    Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 21:24:43

    WD-40 is generally not reccomended to be used because it wears down the pieces and makes the cube harder to turn eventually. I believe it is oil-based as well which is never good. After like a half hour or so you should wash it off.
    A good rule of thumb is that if it's first ingredient is anything that contains oil or petroleum you shouldn't use it.

  1250. Tushix
    Date: Mon, Nov 23 2009 04:41:31

    WD-40 kills cubes sleep(1).gif better not...

    8.64 average of 5:

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTMzNzY4MTgw.html

    NOT ME

  1251. FChzy101220
    Date: Tue, Nov 24 2009 00:29:30

    well, ya i guess you shouldn't but definitely find some silicon spray i dont because i have it but my friend uses it and it works great
    just stay away from oil products

  1252. pheonix
    Date: Tue, Jan 12 2010 00:30:45

    RUBIX CUBES ARE SO FIN HARD i get like 2 sides and the othersides have like one problem
    ever seen one of these things its like 2 horse shoes conneted by a 3 link chain and therea ring in the middle and u gotta gett it out

  1253. FChzy101220
    Date: Tue, Jan 12 2010 02:32:42

    QUOTE (pheonix @ Jan 11 2010, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    RUBIX CUBES ARE SO FIN HARD i get like 2 sides and the othersides have like one problem
    ever seen one of these things its like 2 horse shoes conneted by a 3 link chain and therea ring in the middle and u gotta gett it out

    ya i have one of those horse shoe things

  1254. CDN-izedAZN
    Date: Wed, Jan 13 2010 00:49:36

    pfff soft. i can solve a 3x3 rubiks cube in 1 minute and the 4x4 and 5x5 in like 10 lol.

  1255. JellyMan
    Date: Thu, Jan 14 2010 20:38:24

    I have been cubing for a while, just not a lot recently, im doing more penspinning tongue.gif.
    I have 2x2-7x7 and I can solve them all. I also made a mod called a fisher's cube.

  1256. Kari-Chan
    Date: Thu, Jan 14 2010 22:49:08

    QUOTE (JellyMan @ Jan 15 2010, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I have been cubing for a while, just not a lot recently, im doing more penspinning tongue.gif.
    I have 2x2-7x7 and I can solve them all. I also made a mod called a fisher's cube.



    you MADE a mod??? O.O what is that???

  1257. TRoc
    Date: Fri, Jan 15 2010 00:31:03

    QUOTE (JellyMan @ Jan 14 2010, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I have been cubing for a while, just not a lot recently, im doing more penspinning tongue.gif.
    I have 2x2-7x7 and I can solve them all. I also made a mod called a fisher's cube.

    You have a fisher cube! I want one so bad but I know I'd mess it up. Mefferts sells them for like $14 anyway. tongue.gif

    Btw, did you lube your 7x7x7?

  1258. Spinner4ever
    Date: Thu, Jan 28 2010 23:48:53

    shoot, it takes me abot 30 minutes to solve the whole thing, usually because one isn't where it's supposed to be

  1259. Pen Islandâ„¢
    Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 22:23:49

    Does anyone have the new Rubik 360? im getting it tommorow and apparently its very difficult...

  1260. neix
    Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 22:41:12

    QUOTE (Pen Islandâ„¢ @ Jan 29 2010, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone have the new Rubik 360? im getting it tommorow and apparently its very difficult...


    i do but after you solve it once or twice it gets boring, ehrm but its a good collectable, plus it is entertaining at first when you dont know how to solve it, but afterwards it is easy.

  1261. MrData
    Date: Sun, Jan 31 2010 05:52:46

    In case you haven't heard yet, fazrulz got 9.21 3x3 world record average yesterday.

  1262. Kari-Chan
    Date: Sun, Jan 31 2010 08:42:26

    QUOTE (Pen Islandâ„¢ @ Jan 30 2010, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone have the new Rubik 360? im getting it tommorow and apparently its very difficult...


    what is that? i googled it and how do you actually solve it?

  1263. LiEn
    Date: Thu, Feb 11 2010 14:09:22

    Got my order from mefferts.com yesterday^^
    Took about 3 weeks, nice that it came on my birthday=D
    Already done a new order (Skewb & Skewb Ultimate).
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIfAeMRi4Mg

  1264. lobster
    Date: Fri, Feb 12 2010 04:56:29

    QUOTE (MrData @ Jan 30 2010, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    In case you haven't heard yet, fazrulz got 9.21 3x3 world record average yesterday.

    That is so ridiculous. . .i dont see how you can think that fast

  1265. Chief_Snake
    Date: Fri, Feb 12 2010 05:12:02

    anyone have a good vid explaining how I can speed up my ri di r d?

  1266. k-ryder
    Date: Fri, Feb 12 2010 08:59:32

    QUOTE (Chief_Snake @ Feb 12 2010, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    anyone have a good vid explaining how I can speed up my ri di r d?


    i would just rotate the cube so you are doing R U R' U' (that would be a 180 cube turn on x axis - bottom is now top)

  1267. PerfectionPS
    Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 18:16:27

    I can do 'the cube' to an extent tongue.gif

    It takes me an average of 3mins with the layer by layer method :/

  1268. Nachoaddict
    Date: Wed, May 12 2010 04:26:26

    Can't even solve 1 side. Gawd I feel so unaccomplished