UPSB v3
Advanced Tricks / "Impulse"?
meaning?
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Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 20:18:06
occasionally I have seen this written after a normal trick name, but I'm not sure what it means...
i looked in the wiki and searched but couldn't find anything. -
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 21:48:45
I don't remember ever seeing that, please point me to an example.
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Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 22:12:26
http://www.flashspyre.com/bonkura/?cat=10
QUOTEWarped Sonic 13-34 (Inverse Sonic Impulse 23-12 )> Warped Sonic Reverse 34-13 (Inverse Sonic Arrival ***)> Twisted Sonic Reverse 13-34 Inverse Twisted Sonic 24-12 (Sonic Clip Impulse 34-23)
There was an explanation and I translated it with googleQUOTE*** : Une Impulse est la facon dont on envoi le stylo quand on fait une figure en 13 et 24 (généralement Sonic/Inverse Sonic Impulse), mais il n’existe pas de nom pour décrire la facon dont on arrive, si l’on arrive en 13 ou en 24, ici, on arrive en 13, en position d’Inverse Sonic.QUOTE***: A Impulse is the way we send the pen when you make a figure in 13 and 24 (usually Sonic / Sonic Inverse Impulse), but there was no name to describe the way we arrive, if 'we come in 13 or 24, here we come in 13, in the position of Reverse Sonic.
It's still kind of confusing though. -
Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 22:17:15
I think impulse means the trick that is being performed is starting in the middle of another trick.
So that Warped Sonic 13-34(Inverse sonic impulse 23-12), means that the breakdown is Inverse sonic 23-12~> Warped sonic 13-34. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 04:22:42
its french notation only.
im not sure exactly what, but it has to do with hybrids.
AFAIK, it's not adopted elsewhere. -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 05:19:34
its a warped sonic from 13 to 34
EDIT:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vIy6JWLdvAI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=kWBVJlT4d8M -
Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 05:45:00
wait..so impulse from that video looks like it means that the trick done with two nonconsecutive fingers is bent inwards rather than having it outwards, with the middle finger pen, like in a normal clipped sonic 13
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Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 19:44:36
I love this trick. very nice transition move
close relation to warped sonic.
I know 3 variations. Sonic Clip Impulse (13-34), Inv Sonic Impulse (13-34) and Rev Sonic Clip Impulse (24-12). -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 20:05:04
As I've understood it, what we would write out as trick1 ~ trick2 they sometimes write out as trick2 (trick1 Impulse).
Inv Twisted Sonic 34-13 ~ Inv Sonic 13-12
becomes...
Inv Sonic 13-12 (Inv Twisted Sonic 34-23 Impulse)
Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone. Blackmail tried to explain it to me on IRC some months ago, I thought it was pretty crappy notation. -
Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 20:22:27
A warped sonic 13-34. Always used in hybrids.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 02:56:25
uh im not sure but i always thought it was when u sort of hit the pen with another finger...
normally we could notate it as say sonic 34-13 > pass 13-34
which is basically an interupted inverse sonic
but then it could be called the sonic impulse
cuz you kind of hit it along with your index
at least that's when i first ran across it, it was a video for the 'sonic impulse'
it could be unnecesary for something like that, but you could use it like that for other things
imagine holding the pen in 23 and doing a charge reverse by hitting it with your index
charge reverse impulse?
yea im not sure i totaly made up all of this on my own lol i could be totally wrong -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 02:22:49
a warped sonic after a sonic 23-13 is called impulse sonic.
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posts merged from Warped Sonic thread
sketching -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 05:24:48QUOTE (Stay'n Alive @ Jun 16 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>a warped sonic after a sonic 23-13 is called impulse sonic.
That's a fairly silly combo to have a name for. It makes the combo sound like a single trick.
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Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 05:38:20
it's not a combo... it's a hybrid
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Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 05:40:03
Sonic > Warped Sonic would be a combo of a full trick followed by a "hybrid" (depends on how it's performed whether it's a hybrid or just a combo of Charge > Pass).
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Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 05:46:59
i think you misread
it's a sonic clip ~ pass
making it a hybrid. right? maybe i'm being retarded, im pretty sure that's a hybrid though... -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 05:54:00
>_< Thinking it was Sonic 23-12. Sorry.
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Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 06:01:38
yea i thought that was what you thought. lol
but when the almighty sketching doubts you, you doubt yourself.
(it's a rule) -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 06:12:39
Moved these last few posts away from the Warped Sonic thread. Can anyone else give a definition of the Impluse "notation"? Sfsr's description is still kinda funky to me. It seems like any simple hybrid of 2 tricks would involve the "Impluse" title tacked onto the end of the first trick involved.
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Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 06:16:26
whoa merge
well im not french, and i believe what i say way earlier about impulses was way wrong
but i want to say i like the name for this trick, i think we should keep it
the inverse sonic impulse is by far my favorite hybrid, i use it all the time
edit: wait, no merge.. -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 06:25:33
Only a semi-merge.
When I see "impulse" I see some spur-of-the-moment change of plans. Hybrid execution is generally planned out before starting them.
I don't see a good reason to bring in Impulse to simple hybrid naming. If we accept Sonic Impulse, without a good reason such as the very complicated Flush Sonic hybrid, we'll have to end up accepting things like "Pseudo Sonic Impluse" or "Inverse Moonwalk Sonic Impulse" as people try to make "new tricks" based around another named hybrid. >_< -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 06:30:26
well i dont know what impulse means, i just meant this exact trick
and yea there's really no reason to adopt that name, i just selfishly want to use it because i like the trick and i like the name
lol
i mean come on, impulse? that sounds so freakin awesome. like a gun. or a gunman...
lmao jp
warped sonic 13-34 would suffice right? -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 06:34:17
Sonic 1.0 23-12 ~ Warped Sonic 13-34 makes enough sense. I assume that the pen does a full 1 rotation into the 13 slot before starting the Warped Sonic, correct?
Sonic 23-12[p][s 1.0] ~ Warped Sonic 13-34, so you would have a total of 2.5 rotations. Sonic 23-12[p][s 1.0] ~ Charge 13 > Pass Normal 0.5 13-34 ?
I should go find an actual vid rather than be lazy.
Anyway, unless a better explanation of Impulse is given, it seems like a weak naming convention to go by compared to Interrupted Trick Notation, which handles the Sonic Impulse situation along with many more. -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 17:31:20
Well, Zombo previously mentioned FPSB's lukewarm reception to the Interrupted Trick Notation article, which would explain their aversion to the system. I think they felt it was too complicated and difficult to understand. The primary advantage of ITN is that it eliminates confusion caused by arbitrary and ambiguous terms such as "warped", "fake", "impulse", etc. which is why UPSB endorses it. But so long as both sides understand what trick is being referred to, it shouldn't be much of a problem. I'm surprised they'd choose an English name for it though.
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Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 17:39:13
I remember the reception of our notation on the Eurapen forums, not so great. >_<
I was (and still am) hoping to find out just how far their system goes. From Sfsr's post, it seems like only 2 partial tricks together would work for the impulse naming, I wonder what happens with 3 or more partial tricks or full tricks plus partial tricks. If they just have to keep coming up with more names, then it seems like a lot of worl for them in both naming and remembering of the names.