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Ladder: Archive / [ladder-x] DaThroat vs Scott Shaputis

DaThroat Wins

  1. Scott Shaputis
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 12:38:16

    DaThroat's vid:


    Scott Shaputis' vid:

  2. SpinStar
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 13:35:14

    Loved DaThroat's japanese style

  3. DaThroat
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 13:36:30

    Loved Scott's difficulty. laugh.gif

  4. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 13:49:54

    both were awsome~~~nulled

  5. song
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 14:31:18

    vote for dathroat
    his combo is much more difficult and smoother than scott's one
    and his style is just awesome cool.gif

  6. Kaveh
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 14:41:24

    +1 DaThroat

    he was way smoother, and his combo was harder

  7. Scott Shaputis
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 20:16:29

    lol @ saying DaThroat was more difficult
    I knew this was going to happen though
    GJ.
    its gonna be over soon.

  8. someone09
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 22:39:00

    i really liked scott's combo even though it wasn't as smooth as dathroat's

  9. pholord
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 23:00:54

    Id would say Scott's combo definately was more difficult, taking into account not just the tricks, but the speed at which it was performed and how long DaThroats pen is. DaThroat's combo was good and the ending was nice, but overall I believe Scott's combo was better.

  10. ArchAngel
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 23:02:13

    i nulled..... laugh.gif they're all too good cool.gif

  11. Tylt
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 23:15:12

    Both were really nice and smooth.
    but scotts variety and difficulty got my vote

    +1 scott

  12. MC CHO
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 23:26:09

    +1 Scott Shaputis

    His combos seemed better to me and his spinner was more fun to watch smile.gif

  13. DaThroat
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 08:28:45

    QUOTE (Scott Shaputis @ Apr 22 2008, 04:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    lol @ saying DaThroat was more difficult

    Yeah, I agree. Your combo was A LOT more difficult. biggrin.gif


    QUOTE (pholord @ Apr 22 2008, 07:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ...and how long DaThroats pen is.

    I doubt my pen is much longer than Scott's(I'm assuming his pen is a KT). My pen is 21cm. A KT is 20cm. tongue.gif

    But if I were to judge this fairly....
    (DaThroat's Grade relative to Scott's):

    Difficulty: -1.0
    Smoothness: 0
    Speed: 0
    Filming: +0.5

    Total: -0.5

    I'm taking Speed to be 'how well the speed fits the trick performed', but if it was just true speed, I should get a -1.0.
    Either way, I should lose officially IMO. Still, this is public voting so it's pretty much based on personal preference. laugh.gif


    *going to votes because of this for sure sad.gif*

  14. Clyde
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 09:36:26

    +1 DaThroat.

    funny to see someone copying bonkura hehe

  15. SpinStar
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 11:41:05

    Hey Scott, don't have a low self esteem man. You are good and you know it. Go Scott! wink.gif

  16. Gunblakes
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 11:59:24

    I thought DaThroat's vid was good until I saw Scott's one. Scott wins for difficulty and smoothness biggrin.gif But DaThroat was awesome too.

  17. alexm
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 12:17:48

    Da Throats vid was cool looking but scotts was much more difficult and idk why ppl said it wasnt smooth ^ there but ya looked pretty smooth to me lol.

  18. tomohiro
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 23:08:45

    wow scott... mellow.gif you got so much better... this time u have more variety biggrin.gif

  19. pholord
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 23:17:31

    QUOTE (DaThroat @ Apr 22 2008, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I doubt my pen is much longer than Scott's(I'm assuming his pen is a KT). My pen is 21cm. A KT is 20cm. tongue.gif


    Im not saying that your pen is like way longer than scott's but because it is a a fairly long length it takes away difficulty from your tricks like that that bak combo. Had you spun an MX or a pen of similar stats, that combo would have been very impressive. Scott's combo had more tricks that dont really rely on the momentum of the pen like wipers

  20. Dritan Zulbeari
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 00:38:57

    I don't see how people think DaThroat's video was more difficult.
    He makes the tricks look difficult by "bending" his fingers. Like when he did Warped Sonic 23-34 his Index and Middle finger bend to make it look difficult. Although, I'm pretty sure most you can do Warped Sonic 23-34 with no problem at all.
    But whatever.
    Don't listen to me.

  21. -JC-
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 00:40:38

    wow, scott, you turned the votes around happy.gif
    great job on your vid biggrin.gif

  22. sangara
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 00:45:02

    Shit I tied it 23/23

  23. Tama
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 00:45:31

    Omg!
    DaThroat reminds me of Fratleym.... (His style... the way his fingers move...)
    Vote went to DaThroat.

    Scott's combo was pro too!

  24. someone09
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 01:03:25

    dritan, it's his style (which is similar to bonkura's). not always the most difficult but visually appealing

  25. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 01:26:23

    QUOTE (Dritan Zulbeari @ Apr 22 2008, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't see how people think DaThroat's video was more difficult.
    He makes the tricks look difficult by "bending" his fingers. Like when he did Warped Sonic 23-34 his Index and Middle finger bend to make it look difficult. Although, I'm pretty sure most you can do Warped Sonic 23-34 with no problem at all.
    But whatever.
    Don't listen to me.


    thats called style....Bonkura did that too, along with many other spinners (e.g. S777)

  26. pholord
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 01:47:49

    its interesting how a few critical replies can make so much of a difference in a battle

  27. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 01:57:59

    QUOTE (pholord @ Apr 22 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    its interesting how a few critical replies can make so much of a difference in a battle


    PSers are easily swayed I suppose.

  28. dust_kid
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 02:09:10

    Nulled.. both were good.

  29. xxdefinitionxx
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 02:41:26

    QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Apr 22 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    thats called style....Bonkura did that too, along with many other spinners (e.g. S777)


    yeah its very japanese style

    but it makes the combo look much much better

    scott also did too many arounds..i've noticed taht in a lot of his combos...a bit too amny arounds

    and i like the finger bending....it makes it look very elegant..tahst why bonkura's 2nd solo was so fun

    DaThroat was very smooth and elegant tongue.gif

  30. Dritan Zulbeari
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 03:19:24


    I never said anything about style. People were arguing on trick difficulty.

  31. Eso
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 06:20:59

    I just went with what I felt like was the right choice. I felt that Scott took this one. Why?

    Well, DaThroat's looked very boring, and looked similar to his previous combos in collabs. Scott's combo also looked similar to his previous combos, but I felt less bored watching his. I also felt his was better in more categories than DaThroat's in general. I don't want to break it down, cause that will cause more unneeded disputes and drama. Suffice it to say that I just felt that Scott's video was better.

    gg all

  32. TEK
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 07:38:31

    i voted for dathroat mostly cuz of his style...some good nice clean tricks and backs...
    but of obviously scotts combo had a lot more to it...just dont really like the style and the pen XD jk about the pen but i like
    dathroats finisher better...
    good job tho...scotts winning lol

  33. DaThroat
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 10:03:10

    QUOTE (Eso @ Apr 23 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well, DaThroat's looked very boring

    Ouch. Experienced and respected spinners commenting negatively always gives a pinch. mellow.gif


    I've almost never did use any backfall or any variation of it in any collab clip. I'd thought it would look different from 'normal' for me. Looks like I was wrong. sad.gif

  34. song
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 10:53:37

    is not similar,he seldom use bakfall,i think he only do it in his DaThroat's 1st Penspinning Vid
    and he do not tricks like tringle pass,bakriser which he always do for collab or battle clip

  35. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 12:32:14

    throat cause i'm from SG too =P

    but scott was great.

  36. Scott Shaputis
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 17:58:51

    QUOTE (pholord @ Apr 22 2008, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    its interesting how a few critical replies can make so much of a difference in a battle

    i was thinking 100% the same thing.

  37. METAL_mp-_-
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 18:26:59

    i would null but i don't have enough posts... sad.gif
    scotts difficulty is pretty high and dathroats style... smile.gif i liked both a lot

  38. pholord
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 22:56:46

    QUOTE (DaThroat @ Apr 23 2008, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ouch. Experienced and respected spinners commenting negatively always gives a pinch. mellow.gif


    I've almost never did use any backfall or any variation of it in any collab clip. I'd thought it would look different from 'normal' for me. Looks like I was wrong. sad.gif


    The bakfall variation was new but the other moves and especially the ending seemed pretty similar to your other combos.

  39. Fearless
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 14:36:26

    Dathroat seemed better. Scott, not your best combo, i preferred your combo with eriror, that was much better! GJ both of you

  40. Dragon Knight
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 15:03:10

    haha scott's pen dropped/slipped out of his hand abit at the start, also there was a slight freeze/studder in scott's combo.

  41. Scott Shaputis
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 17:20:47

    @fearless
    linkages in that combo were lame and easy
    the only thing in that combo was speed

    @Dragon
    where to both of those?
    i felt like i demonstrated complete control throughout the whole combo by keeping a consistent speed and smoothness, without pauses, slips, or fumbles
    please tell me where you saw those things.

  42. Xero
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 20:05:26

    Nulled vote.

  43. Dritan Zulbeari
    Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 03:27:17

    QUOTE (Dragon Knight @ Apr 24 2008, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    haha scott's pen dropped/slipped out of his hand abit at the start, also there was a slight freeze/studder in scott's combo.

    I think this "dropped/slipped" thing was when he was getting ready for the combo.

    Also, I see no freeze/studder what so ever.
    The combo looks very nice, smooth, and he had great control over the pen.
    I think you need to take a look at the video again, then recompose your reply.

  44. 11Thrasher11
    Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 04:25:30

    This is a real close one but after a few times I think Dathroats is a tinyy bit better.

  45. Darkeh
    Date: Mon, Apr 28 2008 20:58:41

    Tied :x

  46. pholord
    Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 03:37:46

    this battle is so close its disgusting

  47. El Deal
    Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 18:41:19

    Go DaThroat

    clap.gif
    happyy.gif

  48. Kyosuke
    Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 20:15:37

    I voted for DaThroat. I just love his style.

  49. daaavid
    Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 20:34:31

    mmm. Voted for scott because his combo was more difficult than dathroats and his pen wasn't as long ( although still a kt ><)

  50. IAmTheMrGuy
    Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 20:55:26

    amazingly close, but I just barely barely barely! was able to choose. I chose DaThroat because I really like his style

  51. Scott Shaputis
    Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 21:15:30

    This battle has been over since April 28
    Just letting all these people know
    The final score was 36 - 35
    So if you voted after that sorry to inform you that your vote didn't count, but the person you voted for won smile.gif