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Regular Pen Discussion / Commonly used METAL TIPS
weight and pictures included!
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 00:40:47
Alright, here are some commonly used metal tips. If you want to add another tip to this list please make sure it's actually somewhat common...posting up rare metal tips that no one can find is not useful, sorry.
Now, you might be wondering why did i put "±0.015g" after each weight. In case you dont know what that means, it means that each tip may either be plus 0.015g or minus 0.015g from the posted weight...that's because pen metal tips are not made with stringent guidelines so each metal tip is bound to vary a little bit in weight.
HUGE picture of metal tips (tips are not #'d but it's the same picture as above)
1. Hybrid Gel Grip (HGG) - 0.674g (±0.015g)
2. Signo - 1.836g (±0.015g)
3. Dr.grip shaker (american) - 3.982g (±0.015g)
4. Dr.grip shaker (japanese) - 4.034g (±0.015g)
5. Hybrid Gel Roller (HGR) *New version* - 1.251g (±0.015g)
6. Pentel 207 (P207) - 1.108g (±0.015g)
7. G3 - 1.457g (±0.015g)
8. Nextage - 3.629g (±0.015g)
9. Aspire (Pencil) - 3.354g (±0.015g)
10. Aspire (Pen) - 3.925g (±0.015g)
11. Dr.grip PEN (american) - 3.582g (±0.015g)
12. Dr.grip Shaker (japanese) w/ filed off tip - 4.0410g (±0.015g)
13. Zebra F-301 (pen) - 1.862g (±0.015g)
14. Zebra Telescopic pen - 2.3494g (±0.015g)
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Note: The old version HGR pens have the exact same tip as HGG
Note 2: Picture of the dr.grip pen tip have not been added yet.
Note 3: As you can see from the weight of the dr.grip tip that had the front filed down, the weight is actually higher than the non-shaved dr.grip tip which just goes to show you how much tip weight varies due to non strict manufacturing standards. -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 00:50:09
Thanks! you have too many pens T_T
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 01:02:24
How many do you have of each of these? o_O
Or you can just say all the pens, a pic would be best.
Is a grip-matic not common enough? -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 02:02:54
Nice dude!
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 02:05:33
Hmm i only use the first three ones so there not "commonly used" by me but wahtever thatnks for the list.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 02:31:33
wow, jesus, you have a lot of tips
and a signo weighs about as much as 2-3 hgg tips 0.0..
well i kinda figured it was around 2....
and 1 dr. grip tip = about 6 hgg tips 0.0.... wow... -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 02:36:41
Nextage....
How come I've never heard of that pen??
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 03:44:46
Pilot Nextage, cost a little over $3.00. Also, it's a shaker, but I think the body has to be cut to get the shaker out... -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 04:22:49
You can screw off the grip section to take out the shaker part, FYI. Nice collection of tips and detailed listing of weights each tip, it will help those who want to see how many HGG=Signo tips. I tried weighing my tips last time on my school's electronic scale balance, the figure is close to yours, so I'd say its accurate.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 04:49:41
now we nid weights for grips and bodies *hint hint*
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 06:16:26
Thanks for the info, Gunblakes, but for some reason, the clicking mechanism has to be removed instead... And the shaker, is a metal spring...
On-topic: Yay, my MX^2's are pretty much the same, since I used an HGR tip with a HGG tip over it instead of 3 HGG tips. -
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 06:42:52
can you compare their price, please?
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 06:47:32QUOTE (Tratto_Pen @ Apr 26 2008, 01:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can you compare their price, please?
well, the hgg tip can come from an hgg or a few other pens as well so the prices can vary
and different stores sell the same pens at differnet prices, so it depends on where you go as well
like dr. grip shakers that are found in this japanese store that i know of in nyc costs about $8-10 (dont' remember the exact price) but can cost as little as $3-5 in japan (okay, i don't know how accurate taht is, but i'm just giving an example cause i think i heard that dr. grip shakers are around that price in japan---not 100% sure though) -
Date: Mon, Apr 28 2008 05:11:16
Umm..K4S...what's wrong with your hybrid Gel Rollers?
The Tip of the Hybrid Gel Rollers i use are the exact same as the HGG tip...they screw on to the hGG body fine..
wtf...u got sum pwnt HGRs -
Date: Mon, Apr 28 2008 05:26:51
Those HGR tips are from the new ones. They have a grip now too.
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Date: Mon, Apr 28 2008 16:13:37
a signo is like 3 hggs ... good to know
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 06:00:06
Thank you man... i always asking Outlander before.
Now you've helped me... -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 07:22:31
what's the nextage tips for?
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 07:29:35
Dr. Grip tip sub? : >
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 07:41:21QUOTE (iNoob @ Apr 29 2008, 02:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what's the nextage tips for?
I believe the first famous mod it was used in was the "syn-nextex" or something...there are A LOT of variations based on the original one varying in what caps/body are used. Mod originated from thailand i think. -
Date: Thu, May 1 2008 03:39:34
Its simple, but you forgot american dr. grip pen tips... id like to see the difference between that and the japanese shakers.
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Date: Fri, May 2 2008 17:11:18QUOTE (Syrn @ Apr 30 2008, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Its simple, but you forgot american dr. grip pen tips... id like to see the difference between that and the japanese shakers.
Updated with weight of dr.grip pen tip. I will add it to the pictures later on. -
Date: Fri, May 2 2008 17:35:44
K4S have you ever tried the Zebra Airfits tip??
Jamie Enns said it's pretty heavy too. -
Date: Fri, May 2 2008 17:55:18QUOTE (K4S @ May 2 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Updated with weight of dr.grip pen tip. I will add it to the pictures later on.
people actually use those for mods?.gif)
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Date: Fri, May 2 2008 18:02:53QUOTE (Teddy @ May 2 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>people actually use those for mods?
Substitute for the shaker tip. That way you dont have to destroy the tip by filing the sharp point off. -
Date: Tue, May 20 2008 06:48:17
Somehow your filed Dr. Grip Jap shaker tip weighs more than the filed one?
Maybe its that +-.o15 but thats just me. Maybe re-weigh if you've got time. -
Date: Tue, May 20 2008 06:52:48QUOTE (tylt @ May 20 2008, 02:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Somehow your filed Dr. Grip Jap shaker tip weighs more than the filed one? Maybe its that +-.o15 but thats just me. Maybe re-weigh if you've got time.QUOTENote 3: As you can see from the weight of the dr.grip tip that had the front filed down, the weight is actually higher than the non-shaved dr.grip tip which just goes to show you how much tip weight varies due to non strict manufacturing standards.
I have a few filed down tips so when i get time i'll weigh those as well. -
Date: Tue, May 20 2008 06:57:00
Yeah they should really make like strict guidelines on how uniform a product should be. But anyways K4S thanks for the clarification.
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Date: Tue, May 20 2008 11:57:07
i found a metal tip that's somewhat alike hgg tip, the only difference is that the inside of the tip is a bit smaller i guess...but it coulb be a replacing for hgg tip
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Date: Wed, May 21 2008 22:58:30
man, i wish we could buy pens from japan.
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Date: Sat, May 24 2008 09:16:35
nice!
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Date: Sat, May 24 2008 19:38:53
thanks, this will be very useful to me
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Date: Sun, May 25 2008 02:08:15
o.0 Nice list but you forgot Papermate FlexGrip, Flexgrip Elite etc. They are a really common tip used in mods.
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Date: Sun, May 25 2008 02:09:46QUOTE (egu-splosion @ May 21 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>man, i wish we could buy pens from japan.
Penwish! -
Date: Wed, May 28 2008 00:43:35
How come signo tips are used to sub hgg tips even though signo tips are like 3 times the weight of hgg tips?
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Date: Wed, May 28 2008 04:23:13QUOTE (REDBLOOD @ May 27 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How come signo tips are used to sub hgg tips even though signo tips are like 3 times the weight of hgg tips?
rsvp MX is a back heavy mod (the center of balance lies closer to the back since it's heavier). By using a signo tip it balances the MX more so that it's no longer as back heavy (center of balance moves closer to the center of pen). -
Date: Wed, May 28 2008 06:58:53
COuld you add the weight of the tips of the Zebra F-301 Pen? It seems quite heavy. :>
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Date: Sat, May 31 2008 01:52:42
erm...G2 Ex tips is heavy too you know.
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Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 06:28:40QUOTE (Souhii @ May 24 2008, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>o.0 Nice list but you forgot Papermate FlexGrip, Flexgrip Elite etc. They are a really common tip used in mods.
Most of the flexgrip's found in canada have plastic tips now
QUOTE (wizwarezx @ May 30 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>erm...G2 Ex tips is heavy too you know.
Dont think i can find these where i live
...updated with weight of F-301 metal tip. It is very close to the weight of a signo tip, so after making all my new comssa quadrilogy pen mods you're sure to have a bunch of these tips lying around that you can use for an MX or something :>
Also, some of the tips people have been mentioning, i can't find them locally so i cant weigh them. Also, make sure they're common tips that a lot of other people can find before you suggest something. -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 19:55:08QUOTE (K4S @ Jun 20 2008, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Most of the flexgrip's found in canada have plastic tips now
I thought the normal flexigrips have metal tips but the flexigrip elites have plastic tips?
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Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 01:03:16
weight of a ronin tip and a telescopic tip? (i have a bunch of those telescopic tips lying around now xDD )
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Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 03:12:09QUOTE (Aiyah @ Jun 26 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I thought the normal flexigrips have metal tips but the flexigrip elites have plastic tips?
Flexgrip ultra are the ones used for grip aviaire and all the ones at the stores are plastic tips in my city T_TQUOTE (-JC- @ Jun 27 2008, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>weight of a ronin tip and a telescopic tip? (i have a bunch of those telescopic tips lying around now xDD )
There arent any Spinz in canada yet :\ Good idea about the telescopic tips though lol, i will weigh those next week. -
Date: Wed, Jul 2 2008 06:34:04
Nice!!
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Date: Tue, Aug 5 2008 15:49:39
How much does a Gel Impact RT tip weigh?
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Date: Tue, Aug 12 2008 14:13:10
I request the weight of a G1 tip.
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Date: Tue, Aug 12 2008 23:39:47
I dont have any G1 tips, sorry
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 01:08:51
can you do Hi-tec c Tips?
and gripmatic tips?
they seem to be used in a few mods now a days.. and im lookin for sutible subs -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 02:07:09QUOTE (Noober @ Aug 5 2008, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How much does a Gel Impact RT tip weigh?
I second that.
And G1 Tips = G3 tips. -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 02:14:14QUOTEAnd G1 Tips = G3 tips.
Really? I think that G1 tips are lighter, though.. -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 13:09:02
How much does grip matic tips weigh? More people are using grip matic tips.
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 21:45:56
Isn't Faber-Castell Grip Matic a german pencil? I dont have any of those and they arent that common imo.
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 22:59:16
I'm getting 404 for the picture :/ I want to know what the Aspire tips are like (how they look).
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 23:53:09QUOTE (Noober @ Aug 5 2008, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How much does a Gel Impact RT tip weigh?
I checked and they are about 2 grams...but I don't have a very precise scale. Someone else can measure and correct me if I'm off. -
Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 00:02:58
Hey K4S, how about a Zebra M-301 tip? I want to know how much it weighs. Or is it impossible to take off?
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Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 00:09:52
J-roller?
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Date: Mon, Oct 6 2008 01:01:52QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Oct 4 2008, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey K4S, how about a Zebra M-301 tip? I want to know how much it weighs. Or is it impossible to take off?
M-301 tips are plastic. -
Date: Mon, Oct 6 2008 01:23:31QUOTE (shoeman6 @ Oct 4 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>J-roller?
I dont think i can find j-roller's in canada...i'll check the store for them next time i go -
Date: Fri, Oct 10 2008 23:27:38
Very useful thread. K4S, if you don't mind, how much mass is in a pentel forte mech pencil?
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Date: Fri, Oct 10 2008 23:31:19
yea, J-Rollers are really useful.
if im not mistaken, they will screw onto a black comssa cap -
Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 04:55:58
Weight of hi-tec-c tip?
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 04:57:41
Better retractable tip?
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 05:08:58
It's probably in here somewhere but what's the weight of a Hi-Tec tip?
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 05:56:18QUOTE (-JC- @ Oct 13 2008, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Better retractable tip?
I'm hopefully getting some in the mail soon...along with those faber-castell metal tips. When im not so busy i might try to order some of those j-roller. As well, when i get the time i'll weigh the impact RT tip...but for now, midterms/labs/assignments are consuming my soul T_T -
Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 13:04:04
uhm...how come the tip of the Japanese Dr. Grip that has been filed down is heavier? o_O
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 16:16:25
There's a note about it in the main post....
QUOTE (K4S @ Apr 26 2008, 02:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Note 3: As you can see from the weight of the dr.grip tip that had the front filed down, the weight is actually higher than the non-shaved dr.grip tip which just goes to show you how much tip weight varies due to non strict manufacturing standards.
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 19:24:56
can you weigh an airblanc tip for me if you have one? thanks
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Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 02:15:33
the HGG is too light. (well for me)
Hey, isn't the Faber-Castell Grip Matic common??? Its pretty heavy. -
Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 01:00:53
Request the weight of Hi-tec tips
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 07:58:27
I request the weight of a Dr. Grip G-Spec/COG mechanical pencil tip. And also the G-Spec/COG pen tip.
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 08:08:52QUOTE (BloorA @ Aug 13 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Really? I think that G1 tips are lighter, though..
yea thats what i think so too.
i think G1 is lighter.
somebody confirm it please?(:
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Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 11:25:59
i have the weight of 2 tips, but they arent very exactly cause my balance isnt exactly it only shows for example 4g and no 4,12g
grip matic tip is 2 - 2,8g somewhere here.
another tip is the ks online sporty ( http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=LQN2uxj3RAc ) it is about 3g. -
Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 23:08:49
if i cut the bottom thread on a papermate flex-grip ultra (metal tip) would it come close to a hgg tip?
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 22:17:11
hi-tec= 1.1 gs
f301= 2.0 gs -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 23:17:15
Request for the weight of Silicon Grip tips, please.
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Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 05:17:42QUOTE (Sankaku @ Oct 30 2008, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Request for the weight of Silicon Grip tips, please.
never heard of them, do you have a picture?
...im still waiting on some of the tips i was going to weigh...slow traders ._. -
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 05:20:50QUOTE (K4S @ Oct 30 2008, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>never heard of them, do you have a picture?
...im still waiting on some of the tips i was going to weigh...slow traders ._.
Used in Look Into the Sun's SX mod. He says it weighs about as much as a Dr Grip tip, but it seems a touch lighter to me. -
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 05:27:07
there's no daiso in my city unfortunately
The tip looks comparable to an aspire metal tip though. -
Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 20:30:21
in Dr.KT and many others mods when people say "Dr.Grip tips" they means mechanical pencil or Dr.Grip Gel? and the same question about grips...
and can they be found in Germany? (in the topic "Pens around the world" the is only "Dr.Grip")
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Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 21:30:55QUOTE (KL-7 @ Nov 8 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>in Dr.KT and many others mods when people say "Dr.Grip grips" they means mechanical pencil or Dr.Grip Gel? and the same question about grips...
and can they be found in Germany? (in the topic "Pens around the world" the is only "Dr.Grip")
thanks for advance...
Japanese mechanical pencil Dr. Grip (Grip + Tip) -
Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 21:44:52
How many grams does an Airfit tip weigh?
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Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 15:17:33
What about a Pilot Hi-tec C tip ? I need the weight to sub it for my coulomb mod >< Please..
Thank you
Edit : woops, sorry, I didn't saw that it was on the last page...
So.. Up for the airfit tip
The 1st post should be updated -
Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 15:26:41
Anybody have the weight of Zebra Airift?
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Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 20:15:14
Its not a tip but...does anyone know the weight of a linestyle "grip"? (the metal grip thing for the stylish pirat)
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Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 08:21:42QUOTE (Sfsr @ Oct 14 2008, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There's a note about it in the main post....
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 23:32:24
wut wuld be a signo tip sub???
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Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 10:10:20QUOTE (Daffy @ Dec 7 2008, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wut wuld be a signo tip sub???
You live in the US, you should be able to find signos easily.
i think so at least -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 13:27:11QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Nov 8 2008, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How many grams does an Airfit tip weigh?
Thanks!
Airfit tip weighs 3,84g -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 20:00:16QUOTE (Daffy @ Dec 6 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wut wuld be a signo tip sub???QUOTE (Xternal @ Dec 7 2008, 02:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You live in the US, you should be able to find signos easily.
i think so at least
Yeah Signo's are from the US you can find them at Office Max, Target, Walmart, etc.
Basicly anywhere in the US -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 20:45:56QUOTE (MikeKe @ Dec 4 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Its not a tip but...does anyone know the weight of a linestyle "grip"? (the metal grip thing for the stylish pirat)
It weights about 6 grams (!)
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Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 22:19:39
what is the heaviest tip out of all of those?
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Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 22:51:38QUOTE (Jayyrizzle @ Dec 7 2008, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what is the heaviest tip out of all of those?
It is in the picture, but one not in there is a Zebra Airfit used in the Buster CYL -
Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 18:15:00
bk83 is the heaviest tip i think (5g) but pilot vega tip is also 5g-6g
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Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 01:43:29
why does the dr. grip w/ tip filed off weigh more than the dr. grip with the tip still on?
Edit: nvm. i read the note. -
Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 08:15:12QUOTE (hu-man @ Dec 13 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why does the dr. grip w/ tip filed off weigh more than the dr. grip with the tip still on?
Edit: nvm. i read the note.
Yeah, im gonna find another one of my shaved down tips and measure it again. I bought my own scale now so when my exams are done i'll re-weigh a bunch of stuff. -
Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 14:45:40
Is needle point tip is havier than signo??
because that's my hand feeling
and...
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Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 15:31:03
Whoa whoa. Nice list.
Dr grip tips are a lot heavier than I thought.
And thanks for the airfit tips weight. :] -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 05:05:17
weights for:
BK83 tips
KS online sporty tips
Grip Matic tips
Airfit tips (pen vs pencil, if that is alrgiht, I have also noticed different country's airfits have different tips... (construction of the inside is different, kind of like French dr Grip tips vs Japanese Dr grip tips.)
Linestyle metal grip things
Hi-Tec C tips
I don't know if these are commonly used, and you probably don't have most of these tips, but anything would be nice, and no harm in asking right? xD
EDIT/PS. I want accurate measurements, not rough measurements.
And @qcover, I doubt the Airfit tips weigh 3.84 grams considering the Japanese Dr grip pencil tips weigh 4.034 grams -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 19:39:09QUOTE (KunLin @ Jan 1 2009, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>weights for:
BK83 tips
KS online sporty tips
Grip Matic tips
Airfit tips (pen vs pencil, if that is alrgiht, I have also noticed different country's airfits have different tips... (construction of the inside is different, kind of like French dr Grip tips vs Japanese Dr grip tips.)
Linestyle metal grip things
Hi-Tec C tips
I don't know if these are commonly used, and you probably don't have most of these tips, but anything would be nice, and no harm in asking right? xD
EDIT/PS. I want accurate measurements, not rough measurements.
And @qcover, I doubt the Airfit tips weigh 3.84 grams considering the Japanese Dr grip pencil tips weigh 4.034 grams
Read the thread, the airfit tip is mentioned on this page and so is the linestyle metal ring. And earlier people asked for hi tec c, just take your time and search the thread -
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 04:23:59
IDK that they used aspire as common as I did O.o. too bad my signo is plastic though...
Lol, thanks for the guide. http://www.upsb.info/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 02:17:24
umm just wondering the Zebra Telescopic measurement, is it referring to the tips or the metal weights at the ends? cause my signo feels heavier than the ZT tip o.O
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Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 04:40:32
Anyone on the ronin tip lately? http://www.upsb.info/forum/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif
just curious. I saw some earlier post, but... meh. -
Date: Sat, Feb 7 2009 04:41:39
Anyone knows the weight of a mini dr grip tip?
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Date: Tue, Feb 10 2009 08:47:43
yay thanks this helps alot
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Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 17:59:10
Thanks now i know i have 3 singnos
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Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 21:26:54QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Feb 6 2009, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Anyone knows the weight of a mini dr grip tip?
Thanks!
Do you mean a G-spec tip?
If so its around 1.9g -
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 21:34:21
ty for the info...
really helped a lot when i find
tips that i dont kno of -
Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 16:43:04
Someone want to post the weight of a Grip-matic tip? They're hard for me to find, so I need to sub it with something with a (somewhat) equal weight.
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Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 22:12:17
Thanks it has helped a lot
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Date: Tue, Feb 24 2009 02:00:25
Grip matics can be subbed with a signo
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Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 17:18:01
anyne know the weight comparison of a needlepoint tip to a signo tip?
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Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 04:36:20
Well at first I thought it was me trippin, but I showed TEK a buster cyl that had different Airfits tips. It seemed that the ones I had were much thinner then the ones he gave me. It makes the buster cyl feel much lighter. He spun both and they felt very different. I don't know what happened. Maybe it was the place where they were made. Maybe they were faulty tips who knows right?
They seem identical right??? ^^^^^^
Nothing yet? ^^^^
How about now?
Well Idk but when you put the thicker tips on a buster cyl it spins much different then with the thin tips.
So just make sure you don't end up with thin airfit tips unless you want a lighter buster cyl. -
Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 04:40:37
i think you got the airfit pen which is lighter then the mech pencil tip or something, that could be why.
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Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 04:42:57QUOTE (Trackstud @ Mar 17 2009, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well at first I thought it was me trippin, but I showed TEK a buster cyl that had different Airfits tips. It seemed that the ones I had were much thinner then the ones he gave me. It makes the buster cyl feel much lighter. He spun both and they felt very different. I don't know what happened. Maybe it was the place where they were made. Maybe they were faulty tips who knows right?
They seem identical right??? ^^^^^^
Nothing yet? ^^^^
How about now?
Well Idk but when you put the thicker tips on a buster cyl it spins much different then with the thin tips.
So just make sure you don't end up with thin airfit tips unless you want a lighter buster cyl.
yup, the Airfit gel pen tips are lighter than the Airfit mechanical pencil tips. You'll notice that a Buster CYL with Airfit MP tips pack more momentum then the ones with Airfit Gel pen tips. -
Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 10:09:53
i have some tips that look like the G3's...they're from HBW ballpens, CSC ballpens, and such...
dunno if it is, though..,.
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Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 10:12:02
OMG!! I bought this air fit (pearl and blue) for my dr kt to sub dr grip tip, and found it was 2 or 3 times heavier than the dr grip tips(jap ver)!
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Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 23:58:14QUOTE (xLAMx @ Apr 1 2009, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OMG!! I bought this air fit (pearl and blue) for my dr kt to sub dr grip tip, and found it was 2 or 3 times heavier than the dr grip tips(jap ver)!
They are not 2 or 3 times heavier
theyre a bit heavier, prolly 1.5-ish. Be careful, you will screw up people who reference this thread for subs
And, im quite curious as to the weight of an Alpha gel tip.
As per the one used in the old Seven watercolor mod.
Interested if its closer to the dr,grip tip end of things, or signo? -
Date: Thu, Apr 2 2009 04:38:59
Ive recently bought 2 signos to be able to make one of Guitrum's Mods, the G2-CTE
But, it seems the Signos that i have bought have different tips than those of the ones mentioned in the tut.
Help ?
Will post picture if needed. -
Date: Thu, Apr 2 2009 22:53:59QUOTE (PurpleFox @ Apr 2 2009, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ive recently bought 2 signos to be able to make one of Guitrum's Mods, the G2-CTE
But, it seems the Signos that i have bought have different tips than those of the ones mentioned in the tut.
Help ?
Will post picture if needed.
Do the signos you bought look like this?
If so those are the wrong signos sorry to say. When people say signo tips they are most likey refering to these kinds
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Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 01:35:09QUOTE (JoeNugget @ Apr 2 2009, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do the signos you bought look like this?
If so those are the wrong signos sorry to say. When people say signo tips they are most likey refering to these kinds
...Crap.
Thanks alot man.
Btw could you give me a close up on the cap please ?
I think I MIGHT have seen a couple like that, just to make sure. -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 02:22:05QUOTE (PurpleFox @ Apr 2 2009, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...Crap.
Thanks alot man.
Btw could you give me a close up on the cap please ?
I think I MIGHT have seen a couple like that, just to make sure.
On the cap, it should say Signo DX, or Gel Grip.
and if you look inside the tip, it should all be a metallic-ish color, if you see any brown/bronze color,
thats a dead giveaway that its a copper tip(not what you want) -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 04:24:29QUOTE (chrisPS @ Mar 18 2009, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i have some tips that look like the G3's...they're from HBW ballpens, CSC ballpens, and such...
dunno if it is, though..,.
thx for the list!!!
They look more like Signos.. >_> But they're just plastic tips painted silver. :\ -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 04:27:40QUOTE (Stevieboy7 @ Apr 1 2009, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And, im quite curious as to the weight of an Alpha gel tip.
As per the one used in the old Seven watercolor mod.
Interested if its closer to the dr,grip tip end of things, or signo?
It's really close to the weight of a Japanese Dr Grip shaker/mp tip -
Date: Sat, Apr 4 2009 14:27:57QUOTE (Stevieboy7 @ Apr 2 2009, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>On the cap, it should say Signo DX, or Gel Grip.
and if you look inside the tip, it should all be a metallic-ish color, if you see any brown/bronze color,
thats a dead giveaway that its a copper tip(not what you want)
So it should say either Signo DX or Signo Gel Grip ?
And thanks for the copper tip. Probably would've gone out and bought a whole crap load then realise it would be the copper ones. -
Date: Sun, Apr 5 2009 00:24:02QUOTE (Stevieboy7 @ Apr 1 2009, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And, im quite curious as to the weight of an Alpha gel tip.
As per the one used in the old Seven watercolor mod.
Interested if its closer to the dr,grip tip end of things, or signo?
Alpha gel tip (without the grip ring) is about 3.93 grams.
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Date: Sun, Apr 5 2009 00:38:21
Fantastic.
Thanks to all for the help. -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 23:14:43
actually it's not a tip, it's a metal ring the ring of penzgear how much does they weigh each*??
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Date: Sat, Dec 19 2009 21:40:48
sorry for "reviving" old threads, but how heavy is a gripmatic tip? and ks sportys? thanks
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Date: Sat, Dec 19 2009 22:22:11QUOTE (blahblahting @ Dec 19 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>sorry for "reviving" old threads, but how heavy is a gripmatic tip? and ks sportys? thanks
gripmatic weighs about 2 grams. dont kno bout ks sporty -
Date: Sat, Dec 19 2009 22:29:56QUOTE (buhryan @ Dec 19 2009, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>gripmatic weighs about 2 grams. dont kno bout ks sporty
k cool thanks!
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Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 00:17:47
i heard its a lil less then airfit... but exaxct weight please
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Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 00:39:43QUOTE (shakenbake @ Dec 19 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i heard its a lil less then airfit... but exaxct weight please
i'm quite sure ks sportys are more than a little lighter than airfits
i had a stuhl (before i lost it) and it spun a lot more like a cheat comssa than a buster =/ -
Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 00:43:22
i subbed them with signos and it spun well. but i never had ks sporties so i dun know how it would compare to a REAL Stuhl mod
but anyone who knows the weight please tell meh -
Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 13:09:14QUOTE (blahblahting @ Dec 20 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i'm quite sure ks sportys are more than a little lighter than airfitsKS Sporty tips are similar in weight to Gripmatic tips. Although they could be like ~0.2g heavier, but not that much of a difference.
i had a stuhl (before i lost it) and it spun a lot more like a cheat comssa than a buster =/ -
Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 14:08:01
ok thank you
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Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 16:52:50QUOTE (Gio @ Dec 20 2009, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>KS Sporty tips are similar in weight to Gripmatic tips. Although they could be like ~0.2g heavier, but not that much of a difference.
actually, sporty tips are lighter than gripmatic. the weight is between signo and gripmatic. -
Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 21:32:46
could someone please tell me the weight of a hi-tec c
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Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 23:09:25
dont knoe exact but in between hgg and signo... kinda like a g3
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Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 23:55:26QUOTE (darkrose @ Dec 20 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>could someone please tell me the weight of a hi-tec c
thanks
~1gram i believe -
Date: Sun, Dec 20 2009 23:57:57QUOTE (darkrose @ Dec 20 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>could someone please tell me the weight of a hi-tec c
thanks
they're the weight of a signo
the difference is negligible -
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 00:01:31
you sure ? ? i dont think so its a little lighter then signo kinda like two hggs or a g3
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Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 00:35:13
well hi tec cs are heavy...take them out of a kuzu and it'd spin more like a SEVEN
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Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 01:50:35QUOTE (hoiboy @ Dec 20 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>they're the weight of a signo
the difference is negligible
They're lighter than signos and the the difference is noticeable. If anything they would be closer to metal G3 tips.QUOTE (Shakenbake @ Dec 20 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you sure ? ? i dont think so its a little lighter then signo kinda like two hggs or a g3
I've heard they're somewhere near 2.5 HGG tips or something rather. -
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 06:05:11
I remember seeing somewhere that hi tecs are around 1.1 grams, signos on the other hand are around 1.8 grams -- that's a fairly big difference, definitely not a negligible amount. That's like 0.3 grams less than G3, which is 0.4 grams less than signos. Hggs are like .7 grams right? (too lazy to check the front page)...so you can compare that to the other weights
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Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 08:37:41
jc is prob right
because toro mx is cog=cop and it uses a hi tec c tip
whereas signo tipped mx with inktube, and hgg tip in cap is front heavy
so hi tec c < signo - (metal part of inktube + hgg tip)
??? its prob 1.1g
thanks everyone for ur input thou =] -
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 19:07:35
it is slightly lighter than signo
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Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 21:22:04
here, let me put it this way
HGG -
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 21:36:12QUOTE (Colin @ Dec 21 2009, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>here, let me put it this way
HGG
I'm Pretty sure that needle point is heavier than a signo, SEVEN is balanced, and it has a signo in the back, plus the weight of the cap.... -
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 21:39:22QUOTE (Nation @ Dec 21 2009, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm Pretty sure that needle point is heavier than a signo, SEVEN is balanced, and it has a signo in the back, plus the weight of the cap....
Seven G3 is not balanced its slightly back heavy. -
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 22:00:07QUOTE (ION @ Dec 21 2009, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Seven G3 is not balanced its slightly back heavy.
Then why the hell would he put the heavier tip in the back? -
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 22:02:35QUOTE (Nation @ Dec 21 2009, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Then why the hell would he put the heavier tip in the back?
hmm...ohayo or someone said that needlepoints are .1g heavier than signos -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 03:43:45QUOTE (Nation @ Dec 21 2009, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Then why the hell would he put the heavier tip in the back?
Cause maybe he likes backheavy pens? DUH.
And needlepoints ARE lighter than signos.
Replace the front tip of an Ayatori with a needlepoint, and you'll obviously see the difference -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 04:45:47QUOTE (Colin @ Dec 26 2009, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Cause maybe he likes backheavy pens? DUH.
And needlepoints ARE lighter than signos.
Replace the front tip of an Ayatori with a needlepoint, and you'll obviously see the difference
That's retarded. -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 05:14:19QUOTE (Nation @ Dec 26 2009, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's retarded.
How is that retarded? Just because someone made a personal mod for THEIR preference a little back heavy doesn't make it retarded... And way to discriminate a group of people who cant defend themselves, its not their fault they were born that way.
P.S. No one cares don't spam..... -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 05:28:49
wow this is getting really off topic
anyways, from what u guys are saying, needlepoints weigh ~1.75g right? -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 05:33:56
needlepoint weighs more than signo
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Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 05:36:26QUOTE (JC @ Dec 26 2009, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>needlepoint weighs more than signo
wutttttttt no way :\ -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 05:38:08
UGH SO MANY MIXED ANSWERS!!!
so i guess needle points ARE heavier than signos like ~1.9g? -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 07:31:54QUOTE (blahblahting @ Dec 26 2009, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>UGH SO MANY MIXED ANSWERS!!!
I think JC is right. Your SEVEN with the Signo tip feels just slightly lighter than mine which has a NeedlePoint tip.
@Nation: SEVEN G-3 isn't supposed to be balanced. If you read the original tutorial ponkotu made on his blog, he says you can put aluminum tape on the G-3 front (where the G-3 grip used to be) to balance it out.
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Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 10:13:20QUOTE (Colin @ Dec 27 2009, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wutttttttt no way :\
Needlepoint tip is about 2.05 grams (measured during chemistry using a balance)... Well, the ones I have are def heavier than a signo tip... Which makes the mod more balanced?
I think ur needlepoints are funky ^^" maybe u confused them with G3 tips? -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 14:33:13QUOTE (Savian @ Dec 27 2009, 04:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Needlepoint tip is about 2.05 grams (measured during chemistry using a balance)... Well, the ones I have are def heavier than a signo tip... Which makes the mod more balanced?
I think ur needlepoints are funky ^^" maybe u confused them with G3 tips?
This makes much more sense; Even if it's backheavy, It makes no sense to put the heavier tip in the back, unbalancing it further.QUOTE (ION @ Dec 26 2009, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How is that retarded? Just because someone made a personal mod for THEIR preference a little back heavy doesn't make it retarded... And way to discriminate a group of people who cant defend themselves, its not their fault they were born that way.
P.S. No one cares don't spam.....
It's an opinion. And How am I discriminating? Even though it is backheavy, I felt needlepoint and signo seperately, and it felt like that needlepoint was heavier, and most people have said to me that needlepoint is heavier than a signo... -
Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 08:45:38
could i have the measurements of a flexgrip ultra metal tip ? thanks
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 18:03:04
dont know exact but i think it is about a g3
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 18:34:23QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Dec 26 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think JC is right. Your SEVEN with the Signo tip feels just slightly lighter than mine which has a NeedlePoint tip.
@Nation: SEVEN G-3 isn't supposed to be balanced. If you read the original tutorial ponkotu made on his blog, he says you can put aluminum tape on the G-3 front (where the G-3 grip used to be) to balance it out.
hoiboy said aluminum tape is discontinued
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 21:32:34QUOTE (SPRiNGFiELD @ Dec 28 2009, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>could i have the measurements of a flexgrip ultra metal tip ? thanks
According to the scale at my school they're about 2.1 grams.QUOTE (Shakenbake @ Dec 28 2009, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dont know exact but i think it is about a g3
Definitely not... Please don't post if you don't know... -
Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 22:27:53
a have a flexgrip and a signo in my hand and felxgrip definently feels lighter.
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 22:45:08QUOTE (Shakenbake @ Dec 28 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>a have a flexgrip and a signo in my hand and felxgrip definently feels lighter.
Same here and it definitely does not. Are you sure its metal? I weighed it with a SCALE not my hand as well... -
Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 22:53:25
good point u had scale and i dont. i might be talking abou tflexgrip elite instead.
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Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 22:58:23QUOTE (Shakenbake @ Dec 28 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>good point u had scale and i dont. i might be talking abou tflexgrip elite instead.
Elite and Ultra are the same except a different shape.... You most likely have a PLASTIC tip... -
Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 12:31:41QUOTE (ION @ Dec 28 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>According to the scale at my school they're about 2.1 grams.
Definitely not... Please don't post if you don't know...
thank you ion =D -
Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 18:21:48QUOTE (blahblahting @ Dec 28 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hoiboy said aluminum tape is discontinued
you can find them in hardware stores; theyre used mostly for covering up air ducts
it's silver, and kinda feel like the hard version of packing tape, the thicker version.
I may be wrong of course -
Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 18:56:13QUOTE (Colin @ Dec 29 2009, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you can find them in hardware stores; theyre used mostly for covering up air ducts
it's silver, and kinda feel like the hard version of packing tape, the thicker version.
I may be wrong of course
What about lead tape?
That stuff is heavy as shit.
Of course, It is Poisonous.
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Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 19:23:09
needle pt > signo but the difference is so small that noone would really tell a diff.
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Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 21:07:15
I still think it matters.
Signo 1.83 g
needlepoint 2.05 g -
Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 22:40:48QUOTE (ION @ Dec 28 2009, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Elite and Ultra are the same except a different shape.... You most likely have a PLASTIC tip...
damn i think the flexgrip elites i got had plastic tips
i had to add a silicone gel backcap thing to balance it D:
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Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 23:36:01QUOTE (Nation @ Dec 29 2009, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I still think it matters.
Signo 1.83 g
needlepoint 2.05 g
I don't see how a needle point weighs more than a flexgrip tip and a SEVEN G3 is still back heavy. The difference between signo and needle point cannot be that great... -
Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 01:15:54
for uncertainty's sake, leave signo at 1.8 and needlepoint at 2.0... I don't believe that every tip weighs the same.
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Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 01:29:40
human error makes tips and pens different even if its different by like 0.0000000001g
n i think u guys r confused with metal nedlepoitn and plastic needlepoint tip... -
Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 06:52:36QUOTE (darkrose @ Dec 29 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>human error makes tips and pens different even if its different by like 0.0000000001g
n i think u guys r confused with metal nedlepoitn and plastic needlepoint tip...
there are 2 types of tips (metal and plastic) but i doubt anyone is confusing them cause no one has said "you guys are retarded needle point is plastic its LESS then HGG, no way its even close to a signo"
therefore i bet everyone is talking about metal -
Date: Thu, Dec 31 2009 01:45:10QUOTE (darkrose @ Dec 29 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>human error makes tips and pens different even if its different by like 0.0000000001g
n i think u guys r confused with metal nedlepoitn and plastic needlepoint tip...
Ok. If the human error is such a low number and insignificant figure why even bring it up? And how can someone be confused with a plastic tip when they're saying it ways MORE than a signo or insubstantially less...QUOTE (Shakenbake @ Dec 30 2009, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>there are 2 types of tips (metal and plastic) but i doubt anyone is confusing them cause no one has said "you guys are retarded needle point is plastic its LESS then HGG, no way its even close to a signo"
therefore i bet everyone is talking about metal
PLEASE someone get a scale and weigh a metal needle point so people will stop spamming this thread. -
Date: Sun, Jan 3 2010 21:53:34
omg i have a scale but no needlepoint D:
someone should give me one.
you know, to end the dispute.
btw, metal flexgrip elites weigh 2.3g -
Date: Sun, Jan 3 2010 23:04:07
cool i think the hgg tip is #1 if you are ordering the tips from most popular to least but i think the dr. jap is moe used then american but thats only if you are ordering them and then thanks
for the list! -
Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 18:35:20
Same manufacturer may have slight weight difference if they are coming from various plants/production methods. You will see slight difference in weight and text of tips and grips from plant to plant and from country to country~
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Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 23:40:46
ya i think ur right but are they in like order from most to least used?
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Date: Thu, Jan 28 2010 03:52:55
Can i get some info on Nextage PEN tips? Not pencil.
I'm thinking about buying some. They're really cheap, but I don't know how good they are.
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Date: Tue, Feb 9 2010 20:18:09
Anyone with a lab scale know how much a alpha gel tip weighs
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Date: Tue, Feb 23 2010 22:14:46QUOTE (ION @ Dec 21 2009, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Seven G3 is not balanced its slightly back heavy.
no its balanced isnt it cuz he adds the aluminum foil thing in the front?"