UPSB v3
Advanced Tricks / NeoBak 12 -> MidBak
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Date: Fri, May 2 2008 21:57:17
Okay so this is the only trick/minicombo besides the BakFall that I can't do. I've been practicing for well over a month now and I just can't seem to get down this trick. I haven't even performed it successfully once. Now before you say 'practice is the key' or 'keep practicing' I've noticed that with almost every trick when first practicing, there's sort of an "Ohh" moment, where you just got the key thing in doing the trick, then practicing just goes uphill from there. Like.. with ThumbAround you first think you have to move your thumb, then you realize "Ohh" you don't then after a day or two you get it.
For the people who got this trick/minicombo, could you give me your experience in learning the trick, or the "key" in learning it?
EDIT: Oh and yes, I have watched Eso's tutorial. -
Date: Fri, May 2 2008 22:02:09
What part of it aren't you getting?
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Date: Fri, May 2 2008 22:05:31
The pen doesn't want to seem to go around the middle finger, I can get it to reposition right if I just do the Neobak and catch it, but if I want to smoothly connect the Neobak, reposition, then Midbak, it just doesn't go around. I even tried exaggerating the jerking motion when at the middle finger, but it just flew off.
I do "Korean" style baks and neobaks, would the motion of the Weis backaround be helpful ? -
Date: Fri, May 2 2008 22:14:45
Yes, I think doing the Neobak and Midbak near further back on the fingers helps.
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Date: Fri, May 2 2008 22:48:39
when I was learning how to link index bak and midbak for bakfall, I found that after transitioning to the midbak, the pen would be held too far towards my knuckles and it would get in the way of the pen when trying to midbak.
to fix this, it helped to add more upward force and less sideways for the midbak, and to narrow the gap when catching the bak. this also applies to the neobak. -
Date: Fri, May 2 2008 23:20:06
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Date: Fri, May 2 2008 23:21:18QUOTE (Xero @ May 3 2008, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He already said he's seen it. -
Date: Fri, May 2 2008 23:31:14
lift up your mid finger realll high.
as you open your mid finger realll high, turn your wrist clock wise (CCW if your a lefty) a bit so that the pen falls into mid bak postion
do a mid bak
done...?
i tried... -
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 00:40:22
When I do it I really pull my hand back a bit do position the pen for the mid bak.
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Date: Sat, May 3 2008 01:47:53
Yea, thats what I do.
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Date: Sat, May 3 2008 17:02:40
what do you spin with? that kind of tricks can be real hard with lame mods like pencils etc
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Date: Sat, May 3 2008 17:35:27QUOTE (Vall3y @ May 3 2008, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what do you spin with? that kind of tricks can be real hard with lame mods like pencils etc
I just did it my second try with a pencil
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I've never actually paid attention to this mini combo. It seems similar to when you are linking to a Neobak Fall. You have to really exaggerate the movement of the middle finger or at least thats how it seems to me. -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 13:34:41
Remember to turn your hand palm down after the first neobak and stay that way. Start palm side, do a neo bak and stay palm down, lift your middle finger high and do sort of a circle movement with your wrist, like a mirrored C. Start at the bottom and go high, like the bak motion.
Practice that and it will come after a while...it's not too easy, imo.
I hope this helped :\ I suck at explaining. -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 13:44:58
Its probably a good idea to learn the NeoBak first then practice linking it.
Clicky.
Thats what I did. Practice the tricks individually then practice linking them. You may find it hard at first.
But most importantly, learn both tricks first.
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Date: Mon, May 5 2008 14:16:13
What you should try is to redefine the transition times.
Do the Neobak 12-12, but catch it between 123, where 1 is underneath the pen, near the tip (for example, right at the bottom of the cap of RSVP MX), 2 is on top of the pen, 3 is below. All 3 fingers are above the COB.
When you catch it, just stop. Take a good look and make sure that all 3 fingers are above the COB. If so, continue with the Midbak.
Once you understand the transitioning, decrease the pause between the two tricks until it's completely smooth. Good luck. -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 19:32:26
Thanks for replying everyone I think I am starting to see some improvement, especially the pausing thing, I never thought of that and I can actually do it pausing in between.
