UPSB v3
Manipulative Arts / Rubber band manipulation
has anyone develped it since it first came up like 3 years ago?
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Date: Mon, May 12 2008 15:59:21
here is my method for the one handed star,
http://nebelfuchs.com/shoeman/one%20handed%20star.mov
I'd be happy if you guys shared more methods, i'm trying to figure out what kam would call "speed method" where it takes only 1 or 2 stages to form the star but i have yet to figure something like that out..
I guess I might as well provide all the regular links
2 handed single star
http://www.pentrix.com/kam/tutorials/rubbe...singlestar.html
2 handed star of david
http://www.dailymotion.com/Ice-H/video/xq5mo_film0002
2 handed double star
http://www.lovsky.com/doublestar/index.html
2 handed triple star (it looks kinds sketchy but maybe with more practice it can become more even and pretty)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHGlDCo3eMk
1 handed single star
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-9dljHSfdY
http://nebelfuchs.com/shoeman/one%20handed%20star.mov (my link again, it's different from the other methods i found lol)
1 handed single star long sucky methods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGJNZy2PDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3dvjgwfSs8
boomerang rubber band
http://homepage.mac.com/abramr/juggling/tu...rubberband.html -
Date: Mon, May 12 2008 17:11:00
cool
i do remember kam's two handed star guide, i still know how to do it.
like a month ago i was playing with a rubber band, and i got something somewhat comparable to the pass in ps. maybe ill make a vid though its not that much big deal and i dont do it that good too -
Date: Wed, May 14 2008 19:10:03
just tried a one handed star and my rubber band snapped, lolz
anyway, I wanted to try and search on it for the last week, but was too lazy to do it, thanks! =]
I should find a good kind of rubber bands X: -
Date: Thu, May 15 2008 01:50:14
I can do from Star - Scissors - Rock
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Date: Thu, May 15 2008 01:52:10
I can do rock...
Are the fat kind of rubber bands easier? -
Date: Thu, May 15 2008 05:45:33QUOTE (QuestionMark @ May 14 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just tried a one handed star and my rubber band snapped, lolz
anyway, I wanted to try and search on it for the last week, but was too lazy to do it, thanks! =]
I should find a good kind of rubber bands X:
I recommend size 19. Durable, but extremely pliable and cooperative. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2008 17:32:16QUOTE (yahu @ May 15 2008, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I recommend size 19. Durable, but extremely pliable and cooperative.
I like how you always show up when theres a rubber band manipulation discussion somewhere
why don't you share with us some of your stuff? or do you still don't have a cam? :\ -
Date: Fri, May 16 2008 13:18:11
Hey guys.
I would just like to clarify: Although rubber band manipulation has recently become a little popular online, it's been around probably since the invention of the rubber band itself. And it's been "popular" where I come from for as long as I can remember. It's not popular as in you see everyone doing it, but most have encountered it when they were younger.
For example, when I was really young, a friend was "bragging" about the one-handed star to me (which is not a real star, it's actually the criss-cross deal), and he didn't want to teach it to me. So I asked my dad. And then he showed it to me, just like that, expressionless haha. I was like, "WTF it's easy". And then my nanny taught me the star, double-star and others. Some other "weird" rubber band tricks I got from friends.
Come to think of it, the rubber band thing is probably a culture thing from a province in our country, where my dad grew up. Because my nanny was also from there. And a cousin of mine, from my mother's side also knows what I know with rubber bands, and he's nearly 10 years younger, and he grew up in the same province hehe. There's also a "native" game that we used to play when we were younger, called "Dampa". We would get on our knees, cup our hands, then slap the ground to "blow away" the rubber band. The one whose band lands the farthest, wins haha. I haven't really seen any kids play Dampa nowadays, though. Dang playstation haha.
Have any of you guys had a similar experience in your country? Just curious. By the way, if any of you know the Japanese program "Maskman", which is like a forerunner of the Power Rangers crap, I remember they had a wicked-ass multi-person lightsaber glowing-garter manipulation at the closing credits. I'll try to find a video if there is one online.
Edit: I've found the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcSlEpL2yQk
This is the Tagalog ending. The Tagalog dubs back then were pretty good. The intro song was extremely popular, and I've heard some guys had memorized it. Then during the opening, they would sing-along the first few lines, turn of the TV while still singing, and then turn it back on during the end, and the singing would still be in-sync haha. The manipulations happen starting @0:42 -
Date: Fri, May 16 2008 17:42:21
Oh those rubber band manipulations in that coolio old jap vid, I rmb I used to do them with my little sis with a long thread a long time ago. Its quite cool, but you need 2 people to do it.
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Date: Fri, May 16 2008 19:14:37
@prvteprts
yea, i agree about it being around for a while, pen spinnings been here a while too, much longer than 15 years. it might be 30 years or more O.o -
Date: Fri, May 16 2008 21:26:06
The thing in the vid is Cats cradle. Not done with a rubber band but still the same concept.
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Date: Sat, May 17 2008 05:02:32
Oh cool, now I know what is the name of that manipulation. :>
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Date: Sat, May 17 2008 08:17:24
I did not know it (Cat's cradle) had a name hehe. Is it done with thread? I think it's pretty popular among the girls, and they do it with garter if I remember correctly. I wonder where you could get the glowing kind, though haha. Gunblakes, could you do a tutorial?
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Date: Sat, May 17 2008 13:21:01
yay, now I can do a one handed star ^^ still needs some practice though P=
and also I taught myelf how to do a trick I saw Kam doing here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ZdTUxCc9E
pretty cool but easy as hell ^^ -
Date: Sun, May 18 2008 02:02:03QUOTE (prvteprts @ May 17 2008, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I did not know it (Cat's cradle) had a name hehe. Is it done with thread? I think it's pretty popular among the girls, and they do it with garter if I remember correctly. I wonder where you could get the glowing kind, though haha. Gunblakes, could you do a tutorial?
I can't really remember how to do it, its been like 8 years or something. But if you look at the Cat's Cradle in the vid provided, you can more or less figure out how to do it. Just that the starting may be abit tricky. -
Date: Sun, May 18 2008 02:28:17
Its not really hard just like lok it up on youtube.
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Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 08:46:17
Sry to revive, but I thought some of you may be interested to know that I finally made a video of a one handed double star I've mentioned long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swMom46pb80
I hope you like it. I'll have to find some extra time to make a tutorial though.
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Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 10:39:14
wow...Kam how many manipulations can u do? i know u do finger fitness and ps..what else? -
Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 15:49:31
very nice Kam!
I'm looking forward to a tut on the whip trick where it ends up laced through all 5 fingers. I've been trying it for a while and can't get it consistently. -
Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 17:49:33QUOTE (Clyde @ Jun 8 2008, 03:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> wow...Kam how many manipulations can u do? i know u do finger fitness and ps..what else?
Errr...no idea...too many? I'm not that good in all of them, but I do some xcm, sport stacking, balisongs, zippo lighter, yo-yos, astrojax, rubiks cube, ring manipulation, sunglass manipulation, phone, even wallet lol. If it's manipulation, I've probably tried (a few that I have not tried: dice stacking, devil sticks)QUOTE (Outlander @ Jun 8 2008, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>very nice Kam!
I'm looking forward to a tut on the whip trick where it ends up laced through all 5 fingers. I've been trying it for a while and can't get it consistently.
That's called the Interlace, and it's not hard at all. But it deserves its own video since there are several variations that can be done with it. -
Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 18:01:06
lol. you sound like me, trying out lots of manipulation types haha. devil sticks, yo-yo, contact juggling, juggling, diablo, balisong, zippo, and xcm are the ones i focus on now, other than PSing
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Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 18:11:17QUOTE (Outlander @ Jun 8 2008, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol. you sound like me, trying out lots of manipulation types haha. devil sticks, yo-yo, contact juggling, juggling, diablo, balisong, zippo, and xcm are the ones i focus on now, other than PSing
oh yeah...forgot juggling and contact juggling as well...lol -
Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 18:19:17
Lulz your two handed star is so much faster then mine. I must learn it.
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Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 19:30:39
My bad...had to reupload my video
I just noticed a typo at the credits "One Hande" instead of "One Handed", so I figured I would fix it early on.
The new url is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swMom46pb80
Apologies to all those who have rated or commented on my video
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Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 06:03:10
How hard is it to make this? how long did it take you to be able to perform it this good?
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Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 08:01:14
I've been doing for maybe 6 months now? But I don't practice that often.
I wouldn't say it's "hard" to do it once you know it. But it was pretty tricky to come up with the method in the first place. The secret was to take the two handed method, substitute fingers as much as I could, then for the movements that required more fingers than I had in one hand, I learned to use temporary hold positions to allow me to achieve what I wanted. It's basically a lot of mount and break movements since you only have 5 fingers.
Come to think of it...the hardest part is to keep ur fingers apart since it takes a lot of strength to hold the band with so much tension. When I first succeeded in doing a full double star, I couldn't do the same move again without a 10 min break. The band would also snap after about15~20 repetitions >_<
But as you get better, you do the move faster, which means less strain on ur fingers, and also less tension on the band. -
Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 18:06:40
kam, have you tried using to bands? or would that be way to much resistance to do most moves?
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Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 07:37:07
I don't see a point of using two bands unless u're trying to them to make more complex figures. Using two bands for the same move seems like an unnecessary extra strain on your fingers.
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Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 13:51:22
About two weeks ago I learnt the Two handed star and double star. Without looking for a tutorial I found my own way to do a one-handed star.
This method can be done fairly quickly (if you get good at it, which I'm not). I wanted to know if this method has been discovered already or not, and if it's better or worse then existing methods.
This isn't a tutorial, it's just to show the method. -
Date: Thu, Jan 15 2009 22:22:12
@kam
i would RRREEEAAALLLLYYYY like a tutorial for the interlace trick. i have been looking all over the internet and cant find it. could you please make a tutorial? thanks! -
Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 14:30:35
Daffy, as impressive as that trick is at first sight, it's actually maybe one of the simplest rubber band tricks for someone to learn, just think about it for a minute or two with a rubber band in your hand, i'm positive you'll get it.
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Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 16:54:02
ya i have been doing that but i just cant find a video that does it in slo-mo
so i havnt figured it out >.< -
Date: Wed, Jan 21 2009 01:51:10
i can do the philippine flag with my rubberband
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Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 04:57:50
here is my video guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpUy0bsPvV4 -
Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 06:14:59
yeah I figured out the interlace trick in about an hour... with getting the fingers coordinated and all. I've tried learning some tricks, but I've always had a rubberband snap on me... -
Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 06:19:31
here's my video tutorial on interlace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgr9yaU13N8 -
Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 07:07:57 thanks! i really wanted that^^
but perhaps it would be better if the camera wasn't moving so much^^; -
Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 07:31:04
here's another video of me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8gttL-HDqQ -
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 08:15:52
Another update...one handed single star...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7M9waRWhCQ
This is one of the many methods to do a single star. But I think this one is one of the fastest? :/
Anyways...i included a tutorial this time...so don't complain I keep all the secrets to myself xD -
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 11:32:34
oh that reminds me, i taught myself 1 handed single star
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Date: Tue, Mar 17 2009 17:14:36
This is a simple variation of the one handed star that I came up with
Hope you like it ^^ -
Date: Tue, Mar 17 2009 23:04:01
@Thewave: that looks a bit weird because only one of the 5 tips is twisted.
However, that does have potential...if you can get all 5 tips twisted and still maintain the star shape, then I think it'll look pretty cool.
PS: you could use some better lighting on your video, or try to adjust that with your video editing software afterward. -
Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 05:09:02
Gah, Kam, think you could do a really quick written tut on how to do that little snap thing? Where you hold the rubber band in the tips of yoru fingers dangling, snap your hand one way and back again, and then it's intertwined around all your fingers?
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Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 06:10:54
@Kam- the video was done in 1 minute XD didn't realy care about lighting and stuff but if I'll make a real video of it- I'll adjust my settings.
And I'll try and twist all the fingers -
Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 08:03:08QUOTE (MatthewK206 @ Mar 17 2009, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Gah, Kam, think you could do a really quick written tut on how to do that little snap thing? Where you hold the rubber band in the tips of yoru fingers dangling, snap your hand one way and back again, and then it's intertwined around all your fingers?
Matt, I could, but I don't want to. It's not hard to figure out the basic technique on your own, but it's easy to do the trick poorly and show everyone what you're doing. I'll make a proper video tutorial with proper technique and some variations.
Please be patient
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Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 08:18:38 really?
It's just SOO cool whenever I've seen you do it, like twice or whatever
But I'll be patient, I didn't know you had any plans what so ever to teach anyone or make any sort of a tutorial
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Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 08:23:11
here's another video of me with faster star
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG8lymu4oXg -
Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 08:49:29
@Matt: yeah...you actually should have a preparation phase to introduce to your audience what you're going to do. Otherwise it'll come as a total surprise and people will just keep asking you to do it again and again (not a good idea unless you want to reveal how you do it).
There are also some variations such as catching a rubberband mid air into an interlace, transferring it to the other hand (can't do it well enough yet), and linking it to other moves. I plan on including as much as I can comfortably film on the video.
@krouls: that's very fast...I knew someone would come and beat my speed ^^ I should have worked harder to get my best time on camera xD
what method do you use? seems different than the one I teach...is that TyAnn's method? If so...you're using pure speed o.O Because I think that method has more steps than mine. which means you are moving ur fingers a lot faster than I am xD -
Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 09:09:02
Yes Kam, it is TyYann's method. I got interested on the star thingy so i searched it on youtube then i just found TyYann's tutorial
uuhhmmm and Kam
I also posted a tutorial of your interlace 
sorry for not asking permission to you, because you invented it -
Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 09:18:08
hmmm...not cool, not cool man
I know it's an easy trick, which is why presentation plays a very important role. And I'm sorry to say this, but as fast as your interlace is...it's lacking proper presentation (not your fault since I haven't show the whole presentation on my videos either).
I would appreciate if you removed or made ur tutorial private until I post a proper one up. thx ^^ -
Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 09:34:07
ok and sorry again
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Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 12:13:02
This is what I've come up with after what Kam suggested me to try and do:
Looks kinda ugly
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Date: Wed, Mar 18 2009 16:26:14
cool! I came up with a triangle-like star shape by accident. I'll take a picture or something sometime. I remember someone I saw at summer camp twist a rubber band up in their fingers. When they let go, it spun around the index finger really fast! Still trying to figure it out.
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Date: Thu, Mar 19 2009 07:23:16
gee this is a form of manipulation i like alot...I could do:
Arrow -> t -> star -> x -> Y -> v -> L -> i -> o
and i keep learning stuffs from my friends and learnt double star...most of my tricks are with two hands except maybe 1 of them where you stretch the rubberband with your middle figer and thumb and make a star inside a somewhat rectangle that is "fillet" with a cross in the middle... -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 23:12:41
Here are some tricks i learned.
4 tricks:
1) Interlace - still to slow... i have to work on speed >.<
2) one handed star
3) spinning on the index finger
4) teleport o.O?
