UPSB v3
General Discussion / World Tournament 09 - New Board Registrations
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Date: Tue, Jun 3 2008 14:37:03
Hi Guys,
This topic has been opened for any boards who were not in the world cup or world tournament 07 to come forward and write their forum names down and i'll check out some of their collab videos to see if they are good enough to compete.
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Date: Tue, Jun 3 2008 14:42:30
Write down your community's name along with links to collabs your board has produced or send them by email to [email protected]
We will select the best communities to join the other boards in the World Tournament 09.
As a rule of thumb, your community needs to have at least 4 (four) world-class (elite) spinners in order to participate.
If you know the name of the top spinners of your board, list them and provide a link to their videos.
This registration process does not have a set deadline, it is to be determined. -
Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 21:47:58
i have a question.... how many guys from the league can acctually compete on the WC09....?
because we have at least 8 guys that could go... so...
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Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 22:04:42
This is a bit wierd. Anyone should be able to compete in WT, not just the best on a forum.
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Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 22:10:51QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Jun 5 2008, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This is a bit wierd. Anyone should be able to compete in WT, not just the best on a forum.
If anyone could join then there would be too many people joining and managing something large like a 200+ person tournament is unnecessarily challenging. And i hate to sound mean but when people go to watch a world tournament they dont want to see average spinners, they want to see pro spinning. -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 00:39:40
does 2009 has a maximum number of teams? if yes how much?
another question, in the topic you said any forum that didn't join in 2007, do you mean 2008?
last question, lol, this year penzone and kit-cat joint one team, what is the rule for that? -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 00:44:43
He meant 2007 because this year wasn't the World Tournament, it was WC
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 00:49:31
How about us sending some freestyles on what not or some tag etc... Things like that, is that fine?
This also is for those people who have done things (above) -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 00:53:10
Is this 09 tour like 07 tour (no teamwork ????) ?
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 00:54:34
o, thanks, i didn't c the world cup...
btw, why did they change the name? is it even year WC and odd year tournament? -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 00:55:24
Yeah, they alternate.
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 01:02:57
This year is suppose to be the World Tournament 09. Meaning that it's a single match against other spinners in the world. It's when Eriror won 2nd and that was on 07 and World Tournament are hosted every 2 years. So this year is the World Tournament 09 not WC 09.
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 01:15:37QUOTE (Bizno @ Jun 5 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i have a question.... how many guys from the league can acctually compete on the WC09....?
because we have at least 8 guys that could go... so...QUOTE (MacAllie @ Jun 5 2008, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>does 2009 has a maximum number of teams? if yes how much?
another question, in the topic you said any forum that didn't join in 2007, do you mean 2008?
last question, lol, this year penzone and kit-cat joint one team, what is the rule for that?
To make a tournament which will realistically fit under 4-5 months (otherwise it's too much to handle), we want 16 teams with 4 spinners each, for a total of 64 spinners. This implies 5 rounds.
I believe kit-cat and penzone will be seperate, as well as PDS and KPSA.QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Jun 5 2008, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This is a bit wierd. Anyone should be able to compete in WT, not just the best on a forum.
All we care is that each forum selects its best spinners to send to the World tournament. THink of the World Tournament as the finals and the internal selection process of each community as qualification. UPSB itself will probably host a internal tournament to decide who gets to go to the World tournament.QUOTE (Onyx-o7 @ Jun 5 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How about us sending some freestyles on what not or some tag etc... Things like that, is that fine?
This also is for those people who have done things (above)
Read my first post (second post of the thread). Please notice that this is not an individual selection process, but community selection.QUOTE (ChauTran @ Jun 5 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is this 09 tour like 07 tour (no teamwork ????) ?
Yes. -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 01:22:26
Alright Zombo thanks for the heads up.
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 01:41:22QUOTE (Onyx-o7 @ Jun 5 2008, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This year is suppose to be the World Tournament 09. Meaning that it's a single match against other spinners in the world. It's when Eriror won and that was on 07 and World Tournament are hosted every 2 years. So this year is the World Tournament 09 not WC 09.
Didn't KTH win? -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 02:01:31
Yeah sorry about that, edited it now, he came 2nd BTW guys, Sorry for being off-topic here//
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 09:24:49
I'm the admin of the TWPS(Taiwanese Penspinning Forum)
It's a penspinning community for Taiwanese spinners
The Link to our forum :
http://penspin.net
TWPS 4th Collab (released Feb 13th )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkFfD_eFGiw
Taiwan Penspinning Party (released May 3rd )
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYA8wu2xPA
We have some good spinners like
vick , joey , Angelic x Allure(he has done cont bak 1.5 *91) , Rex , disaunt and me and some other spinners
vick and I were in the WT 07 (as Penzone's member) -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 09:33:55QUOTETo make a tournament which will realistically fit under 4-5 months (otherwise it's too much to handle), we want 16 teams with 4 spinners each, for a total of 64 spinners. This implies 5 rounds.
I believe kit-cat and penzone will be seperate, as well as PDS and KPSA.
4 spinners only? thats kinda low isn't it? -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 10:18:56
Yeah but if every team had 8 spinners then we'd have 128 people in the tournament, which might be hard to handle.
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 13:48:01QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Jun 6 2008, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>4 spinners only? thats kinda low isn't it?
128 spinners is way too much. You'll need so many judges to go through all the matches.
like i said, think of the WT as the finals, not the qualification leading to that, only the best are there.
there's another alternative, and that it's to allow stronger communities to have more spinners in. However this is difficult to regulate fairly (how do you decide exactly how many spinners a community can send, etc)
so either:
1) number of spinners depend on size/strength of community, then ppl complain it's unfair.
2) number of spinners is even for everybody. the quality of the tournament will decrease (because a weak spinner from a weak community could participate) but at least it's fair.
but I think another alternative would be:
old boards can send the same number of spinners (like 6), but new boards send less OR if we see that a community has a really good spinner, but he's the only one elite in the community, we let him take a spot anyway and figure out how the rest works out or something. -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 14:47:41
thx for the answer
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 14:53:03
i think this is good chance for MYPSC member to join WC 09
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Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 01:57:11QUOTE (ellusion67 @ Jun 6 2008, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think this is good chance for MYPSC member to join WC 09
World Tournament 09.
And this sounds sweet. I can't wait. One and one battles seems more exciting than team battles. -
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 13:16:19QUOTE (Zombo @ Jun 6 2008, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>128 spinners is way too much. You'll need so many judges to go through all the matches.
like i said, think of the WT as the finals, not the qualification leading to that, only the best are there.
there's another alternative, and that it's to allow stronger communities to have more spinners in. However this is difficult to regulate fairly (how do you decide exactly how many spinners a community can send, etc)
so either:
1) number of spinners depend on size/strength of community, then ppl complain it's unfair.
2) number of spinners is even for everybody. the quality of the tournament will decrease (because a weak spinner from a weak community could participate) but at least it's fair.
but I think another alternative would be:
old boards can send the same number of spinners (like 6), but new boards send less OR if we see that a community has a really good spinner, but he's the only one elite in the community, we let him take a spot anyway and figure out how the rest works out or something.
i reckon large communities should have more people competing. and is PDS even going to participate?
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Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 13:30:22QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Jun 7 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i reckon large communities should have more people competing. and is PDS even going to participate?
read my other post...QUOTEI believe kit-cat and penzone will be seperate, as well as PDS and KPSA.
and of course you're saying that, it's in the best interest of the koreans ahaha, just like smaller communities will demand equal distribution, that's why this is a difficult decision. -
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 17:07:45
is there an approximate date that you think the tourney will be near?
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Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 17:40:32QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Jun 7 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is there an approximate date that you think the tourney will be near?
same as always: early 2009. -
Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 01:37:06QUOTE (Zombo @ Jun 7 2008, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>read my other post...
and of course you're saying that, it's in the best interest of the koreans ahaha, just like smaller communities will demand equal distribution, that's why this is a difficult decision.
i was asking as in..is it 100% sure that PDS is participating. this year LSC just decided not to go in..
and acutally.. i didn't say that for the best interest of the koreans. you said 'think of this as the finals, only the best will be there' isn't there more 'elite' spinners in the larger community such as UPSB, FPSB, KPSA, JEB then the smaller ones like Malaysians team? and since when did i do anything in the best interest for koreans? ive never done that.
1) last WC, KPSA had to make a restricted forum to discuss something about the WC because they didn't want me to tell UPSB their plans. (whatever it was)
2) if you ask the KPSA member who WhiteFang is they'll say something like
-he's that foreigner
-australian guy
-that guy from upsb
3) ive started uploading videos from KPSA (which i wont now) so the UPSB can see them not because KPSA members can have their fame
i don't remember a thing i did to help out KPSA except helping them register in UPSB. so WTF Zombo
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Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 02:03:50QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Jun 7 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i was asking as in..is it 100% sure that PDS is participating. this year LSC just decided not to go in..
and acutally.. i didn't say that for the best interest of the koreans. you said 'think of this as the finals, only the best will be there' isn't there more 'elite' spinners in the larger community such as UPSB, FPSB, KPSA, JEB then the smaller ones like Malaysians team? and since when did i do anything in the best interest for koreans? ive never done that.
1) last WC, KPSA had to make a restricted forum to discuss something about the WC because they didn't want me to tell UPSB their plans. (whatever it was)
2) if you ask the KPSA member who WhiteFang is they'll say something like
-he's that foreigner
-australian guy
-that guy from upsb
3) ive started uploading videos from KPSA (which i wont now) so the UPSB can see them not because KPSA members can have their fame
i don't remember a thing i did to help out KPSA except helping them register in UPSB. so WTF Zombo
hey man chill, its just that its clear that asking for uneven distribution is obviously always in favor of ANY major community (I could have said, "its in the best interest of UPSB ahahaha")
I think its cool that you help out bring KPSA members here.
but you're gonna have a hard time letting the smaller communities swallow uneven distribution:
1) WT07 had equal distribution
2) Less spinners mean you have less chance to prove the strength of your community
3) EVEN amongst major communities, how do you decide who gets more. Imagine if you allow KPSA to have more spinners than PDS omg.
4) Communities that are pretty strong but maybe not top, they'll ask "Why are we not considered major community?"
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Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 11:49:16
when is the due date for registration?
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Date: Mon, Jun 9 2008 13:32:56
no date yet... still have a lot of time
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Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 16:02:47
OK PSH's in.
Here's our 3rd:
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=6044&hl=
i think we have more than 4 spinners are skillful enough to take part in WT09 right? -
Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 16:57:46
how about like 6 spinners?
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Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 17:06:01
You would end awkwardly in the finals, with 3, I suppose?
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Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 17:51:31QUOTE (3+7 @ Jun 11 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OK PSH's in.
Here's our 3rd:
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=6044&hl=
i think we have more than 4 spinners are skillful enough to take part in WT09 right?
PSH was in WC08, you are automatically in. -
Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 17:56:41
cool that that will come
i think the best solution is when you look at the member of each community and then you say how many can participe of each board...
or you say the community which made longer than others there can participe more people...
when you need help at organisation! im there! -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 12:26:59
Lets take the football (soccer) world cup, i think all countries participating have an 11 man team with 5 or 6 subs or something like that, no other team is treated better than another team just their reputation is better.
For the number of teams participating, if 16 forums participate that means a lower amount of spinners per forum participating to keep to a respectable number. If we take maybe 8 teams, and have each 8 participants from each forum then it would allow more better spinners to participate but the problem with that is 8 forums is kind of a little to all the other foruls out there, which means forums like penzone and kitcat would have to be put together similarly like pds and kpsa which wouldnt go down very well.
This is why there will be 16 forums able to participate. -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 13:26:49
in soccer world cup. different number of teams go in from each continents/confederation.
in 2006 there were:
14 Teams from Europe (including germany)
4 from South America
4 from Asia
4 from North/Central America
and remain 2 were decided by some play off.
Europe is more 'dominant' in soccer than any other continent and have more elite teams.
Now replace:
europe with UPSB/JEB/KPSA/FPSB etc
Soccer with PenSpinning
teams with spinner. -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 13:29:16
it'll be difficult determining the ratio...
how do you suggest we find such ratio -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 13:59:26
i dont know. you can use this (even though it sucks) and it'll depend on the teams left over place for the team. if out of 16 team only 14 teams are registered and 4 places are remaining, that would be mean 16 spinners. so from the top four from WT and WC.
-JEB (first in 2008)
-PDS/KPSA (first in 2007)
-SweSpin (2nd in 2008)
-UPSB (2nd in 2007)
-PPP (3rd in 2008)
-FPSB (3rd in 2007)
-GPC (4th in 2008)-JEB (4th in 2007)(first)
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Then we can share the the remaing places like this
-JEB (first in 2008) +2 +1
-PDS/KPSA (first in 2007) +2 +1
-SweSpin (2nd in 2008) +2
-UPSB (2nd in 2007) +2
-PPP (3rd in 2008) +2
-FPSB (3rd in 2007) +2
-GPC (4th in 2008) +2
14/16
remaining 2/16
since there is already 8 koreans participating, you can even not give them any extra.
EDIT: after writing this, i just realised how shit this idea is. owell. you can modify this ALOT and make it better -
Date: Tue, Jun 17 2008 14:04:47
i dont understand what you're talking about
what do you mean 14 teams registered??
if anything, uneven distribution will allow us to register more than 16 communities!!! -
Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 15:40:50QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Jun 17 2008, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>in soccer world cup. different number of teams go in from each continents/confederation.
in 2006 there were:
14 Teams from Europe (including germany)
4 from South America
4 from Asia
4 from North/Central America
and remain 2 were decided by some play off.
Europe is more 'dominant' in soccer than any other continent and have more elite teams.
Now replace:
europe with UPSB/JEB/KPSA/FPSB etc
Soccer with PenSpinning
teams with spinner.
This is why they hold qualifications before hand to determine who is involved. It isnt picked by hand its detetermined by who wins in the qualifiers.
We need to keep to a number divisible by 2 also, for example 64, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1
It is quiet hard to think an amount of forums and keep to this at the same time. -
Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 16:43:43
Since this is an individual competition it's weird that you compare it to the WC in soccer. 11 mans / team is since they play with 11 on the field, here we play separately. Eventually, I think we'll have huge qualification rounds during which the best are picked out. If one forum gets 5 places, and another 0, then that's how it is.
I'm talking about in coming years though, when there might be 50+ boards. -
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 11:43:42
I reckon it should work more similarly like the Cricket World Cup. The system is that all Test-playing nations and ODI-playing nations qualify automatically for the World Cup finals, while the other teams have to qualify through a series of preliminary qualifying tournaments.
Now the teams that automatically qualify for this WT are:
PDS
KPSA
UPSB
JEB
GPC
PPP
SS
PZ
KCF
PSH
FPSB
TS
A total of 12 teams.
Now a remaining 4 teams will be decided by a qualifying system. I believe the qualifying system should be made up of one pool. Each team plays each other once and the top four teams qualify. -
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 13:04:47
every board should have the same chances...
so every board 4 spinners would be better than "some more and some less". -
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 17:53:10QUOTE (DasIstJaStuhl @ Jun 22 2008, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>every board should have the same chances...
so every board 4 spinners would be better than "some more and some less".
This doesn't take into account the standard of the board. On KPSA and JEB there will be many spinners of the standard to enter, other forums may have only 4, with some of these only just reaching the standard. -
Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 20:42:19
I think RPSC ready enough for the WT. We have 4 good spinners. I send some videos and solo's later, really don't have much time now.
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 04:54:57
hey zombo...you mentioned that there's gonna be a tournament to see who's gonna go ta WT....
so when is this gonna begin? -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 12:16:02
what about THPSC
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 12:28:54
ThaiSpinner was in the WorldCup 2008, so it will automatically be included in the World Tournament 2009, if I am not mistaken.
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 13:36:15QUOTE (ArchAngel2 @ Jun 26 2008, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey zombo...you mentioned that there's gonna be a tournament to see who's gonna go ta WT....
so when is this gonna begin?
after we know what communities participate,
because UPSB only takes cares of members who's not in a community who's already participating. -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 14:38:41
how about MYPSC???
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 14:59:24QUOTE (ellusion67 @ Jun 26 2008, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how about MYPSC???
well, did you register?
please follow the instructions if the first and second posts of this thraed. -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 15:11:27QUOTE (Zombo @ Jun 26 2008, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well, did you register?
please follow the instructions if the first and second posts of this thraed.
i already contact CrAsH..he told me that he going to dicuss with zombo first,,if MYPPSC can join WT09 or not.. -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 15:27:49
we havent made any decision yet, please be patient.
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Date: Mon, Jul 14 2008 14:46:19
So, RPSC: http://penspinning.clan.su/
Here some collabs:
RPSC 1.5 year collab
NP collab
And two members video:
LMnet's
Aborrol's -
Date: Mon, Jul 14 2008 23:00:47
hey, PZ and KCF are gonna to merge soon, so that will leave out one more space
is TWPS in? -
Date: Mon, Jul 14 2008 23:03:19QUOTE (AyySoLo @ Jul 14 2008, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey, PZ and KCF are gonna to merge soon, so that will leave out one more space
is TWPS in?
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Date: Mon, Jul 14 2008 23:18:32
post #44 was counting the teams, he counted PZ and KCF seperately
i thought they were the same team in this year WC but seperated teams in 07 tournament...lol, maybe i made mistake... -
Date: Tue, Jul 15 2008 02:25:49
yes that would open one more spot.
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Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 13:07:34
Hi !
Is it possible to register the Belgian board? BPST
Sorry for my bad english =/ -
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 13:58:46
send us an application katix, as defined in the second post of this thread.
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Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 19:34:42
Here are we ready to register Bpst, Belgium Pen Spinning Team for the next World Tournament.
link of the board: http://bpst.actifforum.com/forum.htm
and here are our collabs
the oldest...
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=e88iGsg5XQA Bpst 1st (11 july 2007)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=xycwNt1yD68 Bpst summer collab express (30 july 2007)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2wASXa9Ofo UCPSB+BPST (29 august 2007)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2m_0mtUpc Bpst Fun collab 1st (14 october 2007)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=dUxAzVVqQGI Bpst collab express 2nd (23 october 2007)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=JnGcV9KeCM0 Bpst frat mx collab (31 october 2007)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=XOHAi8Zm130 Bpst ONE YEAR (23 december 2007)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg7J76jOVs8 Bpst +MyPSC (25 march 2008)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQAmEKpzio Bpst Fun collab 2nd
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXxnvy1HyU Bpst Interboard collaboration (fpsb-bpst-ppp-gpc) (10 june 2008)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=k_p0LLZlVYo Bpst collab express 3rd (27 june 2008)
...the newest.
we got of course good penspiners, but we didn't do our selections yet.
but we have penspinners like
Aka (more than 2 years xp)
Knuckles (almost 2 years xp)
Gisele8 (20 months xp)
Katix (19 months xp)
Pen of Ko (18 months xp)
Depotax (18 months xp)
Sunshine (20 months xp)
Litlleboy ,Blax, Festivity Lil-Devil and Voltaic (one year xp but very talentuous)
all those spinners are belgian.
we dont have recent collabs, but be sure we have a better level today. trust in us
Bpst was created one year and a half ago, got 316 members
Waiting for news -
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 19:42:30
wtf, someone's nickname is "Le meilleur spinneur de belgique, le plus sexy, le plus crèmeux" ?!?!
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Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 20:15:43QUOTE (Zombo @ Jul 30 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wtf, someone's nickname is "Le meilleur spinneur de belgique, le plus sexy, le plus crèmeux" ?!?!
sorry it was a mistake...his pseudo is knuckles -
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 08:44:54
so.. are you guys still going to do the thing where theres 16 board and 4 spinners each? if you are.. that SUCKS
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Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 16:30:31QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Jul 31 2008, 04:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so.. are you guys still going to do the thing where theres 16 board and 4 spinners each? if you are.. that SUCKS
we dont know anymore -
Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 17:48:48
Well, i don't want to be involved in the discussion but I saw that someone took the example of the soccer.
Let's take this example :
For the Champion's League (European cup in other words), there is a ratio for each country. For example, France can send 2 teams, England 3 I think, and the countries like Letonia, Norway... Have to do a preliminary round...
Well I think it's for the best of everyone if we try to apply this system.
I can't imagine KPSA or JEB having the same ratio than RPSC (no offense, it's just an example).
I know, it's going to be difficult if we want to do a fair ratio but it will be fairer for the tournament and better for the show...
This is what I think -
Date: Wed, Aug 6 2008 14:09:59
I think
Eriror
ChauTran
Vicgotgame
Scott Shaputis
They are the four best spinners in UPSB... is it right:P -
Date: Wed, Aug 6 2008 15:10:26QUOTE (Nam Dang @ Aug 6 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think
Eriror
ChauTran
Vicgotgame
Scott Shaputis
They are the four best spinners in UPSB... is it right:P
DaThroat? -
Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 16:44:27QUOTE (Anascrash04 @ Aug 6 2008, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>DaThroat?
No... I think DaThroat can't be better than those spinners:P
Now I think ChauTran and Eriror is the same good...:P:P
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 17:02:02QUOTE (Nam Dang @ Aug 15 2008, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No... I think DaThroat can't be better than those spinners:P
Now I think ChauTran and Eriror is the same good...:P:P
No offense but, have you made a post that doesn't mention ChauTran? Come on. -
Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 17:47:57QUOTE (Nam Dang @ Aug 15 2008, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No... I think DaThroat can't be better than those spinners:P
Now I think ChauTran and Eriror is the same good...:P:P
I remember DaThroat beating Scott in the ladder. -
Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 02:47:44
we're not even sure if we're going to only have 4 spinners.
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Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 00:03:02
just a suggestion: but why doesn't each community hold a self contained competition, to choose its champion for the world stage, usually the quality of that winner would reflect the size of the community. (besides a community wouldn't put someone forward for the world's if their best spinner was only average)
then there could be a tournament of 16-20 spinners. not only would that make all the rounds world stage worthy, but would give other spinners someone to get behind(rather than supporting a spinner, through the tournament, you could follow your bords representitive)
just a thought =] -
Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 00:34:59QUOTE (Nam Dang @ Aug 6 2008, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think
Eriror
ChauTran
Vicgotgame
Scott Shaputis
They are the four best spinners in UPSB... is it right:P
i dont agree with that at all....
and proof, that sounds about what i was thinking, like regionals before nationals -
Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 00:46:14QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 11 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i dont agree with that at all....
and proof, that sounds about what i was thinking, like regionals before nationals
I like proof's idea too. Sounds fun.
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Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 01:28:24
actually i mostly agree with it too
but scott shaputis?
dathroat -
Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 01:40:16QUOTE (Proof @ Sep 11 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just a suggestion: but why doesn't each community hold a self contained competition, to choose its champion for the world stage, usually the quality of that winner would reflect the size of the community. (besides a community wouldn't put someone forward for the world's if their best spinner was only average)
then there could be a tournament of 16-20 spinners. not only would that make all the rounds world stage worthy, but would give other spinners someone to get behind(rather than supporting a spinner, through the tournament, you could follow your bords representitive)
just a thought =]
uhh... thats exactly the initial idea, except instead of only the champion of each board, its the top 4... and the other thing is we dont enforce how each community do their selection. If they want to do a internal competition thats fine
BTW this thread is not for discussing who gets to represnt UPSB -
Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 17:06:07
Vic
chau
eriror
pholord/mhig/dathroat/nateiskewl
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Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 18:12:18
CrasH said me there will not have the same number of member for each board
for exemple:
15 UPSB 15KPSA 15 FPSB 15 GPC 10 BPST 10 pendolsa 10 swespin
ect ect maybe a total of 128 spinners
edit: the number is an exemple ok? -
Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 22:47:36
Yeah
I have always dreamt of a tournament that would gather the best regardless their belonging to a famous board or not
But, let's try to be serious a bit. If you don't put an equal amount of persons in each teams, then you start the unfairness.
I mean I would find it more fair to have plenty of spinners from JEB and not much from RPSC (no offense guys, just an exemple of more little board) but it's totally impossible. Who can honestly put ratio for each dam boards? It requires to be absolutely fait which is quite impossible and then to know everyone, to be able to judge absolute qualities.
ok it's impossible so let's do it with same amount per boards
It also gives the occasion to discover some new spinners that can create the surprise.
I mean, only on JEB, you can find more than 30 spinners that are above the best spinner on a lot of board.
There's a lot of communities, remember the olympics guys, everything has to be fair to have some sense for everyone
otherwise it creates some tension that I would not like to have back.
At least, it's my opinion.. -
Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 22:50:19
Each person creates a new chance of their community winning. This is a stupid idea.
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Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 23:11:43QUOTE (Nam Dang @ Aug 6 2008, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think
Eriror
ChauTran
Vicgotgame
Scott Shaputis
They are the four best spinners in UPSB... is it right:P
mhig? -
Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 23:14:24QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Oct 15 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Each person creates a new chance of their community winning. This is a stupid idea.
Then again, it isn't much fair for a large community to have the same representatives as a small community.
OFF TOPIC: OMG
history class is getting to me...
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Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 08:02:24QUOTE (FratleymメFS @ Oct 16 2008, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have always dreamt of a tournament that would gather the best regardless their belonging to a famous board or not
You are right. It would be the best if there is a tournament with the best of the best no matter the board the belong. For example the participants could send their solo videos and the best of them will be the spinners that will participate to the world tournament. But i know that this cannot easily happen (actually is almost impossible). -
Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 19:38:48QUOTE (FratleymメFS @ Oct 15 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah
I have always dreamt of a tournament that would gather the best regardless their belonging to a famous board or not etc...
we can use Honor system.
you ask every board "How many spots do you HONESTLY need", if everybody answer truthfully, then the system is fair, because everybody get what they want.
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Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 05:50:33QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 16 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>we can use Honor system.
you ask every board "How many spots do you HONESTLY need", if everybody answer truthfully, then the system is fair, because everybody get what they want.
and if some board has no idea to what to expect? some could expect "need" means as little as possible, and others could see as an excuse to not exclude any of their spinners?
1) you could try something that wouldn't work buttttt: allow the number of spinners by World Cup placement?
e.g.
JEB-7
Swespin-6
PPP-5
GPC-4
Penzone+KitCat-3
KPSA-3
FPSB-3
Pserhome-3
Thaispinner-3
UPSB-3
I mean, at the very least, it would give more weight to the importance of placing at the World Cup
//-------------OR----------------
2) Every board can only have (2-5) spinners BUT!, before the tournament even begins, (3-10) additional spinners from each board duke it out in randomly chosen 1v3 (meaning~~~1v1v1v1) battles, and the winners move on to the actual tournament?
//=========OR========
3) *space reserved for much better idea*
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Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 02:46:22
I really disagree with this method, cuz this will make a loop, for example, JEB won WC 08, then they get more spinners participate in WT 09, now they have greater chances of winning again. It's not fair for the other teams
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Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 09:19:41QUOTE1) you could try something that wouldn't work buttttt: allow the number of spinners by World Cup placement?
e.g.
JEB-7
Swespin-6
PPP-5
GPC-4
Penzone+KitCat-3
KPSA-3
FPSB-3
Pserhome-3
Thaispinner-3
UPSB-3
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Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 20:10:54QUOTE (AyySoLo @ Oct 26 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I really disagree with this method, cuz this will make a loop, for example, JEB won WC 08, then they get more spinners participate in WT 09, now they have greater chances of winning again. It's not fair for the other teams
well for one...a loop would mean that by winning the world tournament you get an advantage at the world cup.....secondly, the world tournament may have plenty of nationalism in it, because everyone is rooting for their home spinners, but its more of an individual competition all the same. for example (not realistic figures), if one basketball team has 5 of the best players in the country, and another one has only 1 amazing player, is it fair that both teams send 3 players each to the Olympics?QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Oct 27 2008, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so what happens to board that didn't participate in the WC?
3? same as those who did not make it past the 2nd round -
Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 21:03:13
In my oppinion this System would be the most fair:
JEB: 6
Swe: 6
GPC: 5
PPP: 5
All other participants of the WT: 4
New Communities: 3
If you count it togheter, 64 will be the result
This system is not as extreme as Sadistics, but gives already known and succesful communities an advantage -
Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 21:41:08QUOTE (Sadistic @ Oct 27 2008, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well for one...a loop would mean that by winning the world tournament you get an advantage at the world cup.....secondly, the world tournament may have plenty of nationalism in it, because everyone is rooting for their home spinners, but its more of an individual competition all the same. for example (not realistic figures), if one basketball team has 5 of the best players in the country, and another one has only 1 amazing player, is it fair that both teams send 3 players each to the Olympics?
3? same as those who did not make it past the 2nd round
yeah, i guess you are right.
I also think that the result of Asia Cup should also be considered, cuz it's will be more recent -
Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 23:28:56QUOTE (AyySoLo @ Oct 27 2008, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah, i guess you are right.
I also think that the result of Asia Cup should also be considered, cuz it's will be more recent
that would work except all those communities with very few asian spinners would be excluded lolz......ya i think ZeRo has pretty much the same concept as me in his idea, just much more realistic numbers of spinners to include -
Date: Tue, Oct 28 2008 11:08:34
i really don't like the idea of just using WC as a qualification. WC =/= WT
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Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 06:30:19QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 16 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>we can use Honor system.
you ask every board "How many spots do you HONESTLY need", if everybody answer truthfully, then the system is fair, because everybody get what they want.
Sounds like a nice idea. Could possibly work. My favorite so far.
Assigned number of candidates by population sounds like a possibility too though. Sort of. -
Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 08:07:06QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Nov 1 2008, 02:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Assigned number of candidates by population sounds like a possibility too though. Sort of.
sooo Pserhome gets 10X the spinners as everyone else??? or do you mean the population of active board members? -
Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 08:09:05QUOTE (Sadistic @ Nov 1 2008, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>sooo Pserhome gets 10X the spinners as everyone else??? or do you mean the population of active board members?
Active would be the better choice of course. But I really do prefer zombo's idea. Just each board stating how many candidates they need. Smaller boards and/or ones with a smaller population of pros can simply request for a lower amount of candidates while large boards with large #s of pros can request for more. win win situation. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 17:16:34
SweSpin doesn't need as many spots as JEB at all, so using the system of going by the WC wouldn't really work for us.
What Zombo wrote would do fine, just asking the boards how many spots they would like. -
Date: Sat, Nov 22 2008 10:13:02
When we will have informations ? =/
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Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 05:51:54
hmm
I just heard from moderator in KPSA and he said that Crash contacted KPSA and told them
8 board 8 people each
is this true?
i was reading all the replies in this topic and it seems like 16 board 4 spinners each
or spot requests or honor system of board level (what ever this is)
Kpsa is planning pick 8 spinners that will participate in the WC09 but i just told them to hold up just a bit
because 8 people will be way too much -
Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 05:53:03QUOTE (Joshy @ Dec 5 2008, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm
I just heard from moderator in KPSA and he said that Crash contacted KPSA and told them
8 board 8 people each
is this true?
i was reading all the replies in this topic and it seems like 16 board 4 spinners each
or spot requests or honor system of board level (what ever this is)
Kpsa is planning pick 8 spinners that will participate in the WC09 but i just told them to hold up just a bit
because 8 people will be way too much
false
read here http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=14143
in fact, this thread should be locked.