UPSB v3

General Discussion / UPSB Breakdown Project

  1. thig
    Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 04:30:14

    Hello UPSB,

    The UPSB Breakdown Project is an attempt to create a PS breakdown database for major collaboration videos on the UPSBwiki. Currently, I am seeking members for a 'breakdown team' from the pool of UPSB members. There are no absolute requirements as of now. However, if you wish to volunteer as a member of the 'breakdown team,' you should at least consider yourself proficient in breakdown-ing PS videos in accordance to the UPSB Naming Committee Standards of Nomenclature (fluency in the Interrupted Tricks Notation, the ability to differentiate between tricks and hybrids, etc.).

    Volunteering requires you to join the Research Department if you are not yet already a Researcher. If you would like to volunteer, please let me know through PM.

    If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to ask or suggest in this thread.

    Thank you.

  2. Weddamehhn
    Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 04:32:21

    w00t me. I broke down dongza\\\'s WC Round 2 Video hahahah.gif (just an example lol)
    So yeah I\\\'ll join happy.gif

    Ugh wait...the naming...mom~ I\\\'ll show you the breakdown and you\\\'ll tell me if it\\\'s fine, k? :>


    Spoiler:
    Irgendwas aus 34 (Video is abgeschnitten) -> Twisted Sonic Quartuple Bust 23-12 -> Inv. Twisted Sonic Rev. 12-23 -> Twisted Sonic Rev 23-34 -> Inv. Twisted Sonic 34-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Charge T1 -> Inv. Sonic Rev. :+: Pass rev. 13-34 -> ThumbAround T34 -> ThumbAround rev. T1 -12 -> Pass 12-23 -> DoubleCharge 23-12-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Charge Release 12-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Neosonic 12-T1 -> Charge T1 rev. -> Fl Ta rev T1-12 -> BakAround :+: fl. Pass 12-123 -> MidBak :+: fl Pass 12-234 -> RingMiddleBak 1.5 -> RingBak -> PinkyMiddleBak 1.5 -> RingBak-> PinkyBak -> Wiper rev T3-T1 -> Charge T1 Rev. -> fl. Ta Rev. T1-12 -> Pass 12-23 -> DoubleCharge 23-12-23 -> Inv. Sonic 23-12 :+: Pass 13-34 -> MiddleAround Rev. 24-23 -> Twisted Sonic-> IndexAround rev. 12-13 :+: Pass 13-34 -> RingAround rev. 34-34 -> Sonic 34-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Neosonic 12-T1 -> Charge T1 rev. -> Fl Ta rev. cont. 2 T1-12 -> Inv. Tw. Sonic Rev. 12-23 -> SOnic Rev 23-24 :+: Demon\\\'s Sonic 24-12 -> Warped Sonic 12-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> TA Ext. T1-T1 cont. 2 -> Triple TA -> ENDE!


    It\\\'s german lmao

  3. thig
    Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 19:14:29

    I'm sorry, but the UPSB Naming Committee Standards of Nomenclature is unofficially English, not German.

    And if you haven't, please read my first post carefully.

  4. Duckrus
    Date: Thu, Jun 19 2008 03:22:48

    I think I could help out, you can see some of my breakdowns in the Breakdown Requests thread..

    http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...=198&st=180

  5. Stay'n Alive
    Date: Thu, Jun 19 2008 11:32:10

    (I remember everybody that I engaged in the breakdown team and I have no experience...)

    Can you send me an easy one, just to train me?

  6. thig
    Date: Thu, Jun 19 2008 15:42:56

    Stay'n Alive, I'm sorry, but I cannot train you.

  7. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Thu, Jun 19 2008 21:09:24

    QUOTE (Stay'n Alive @ Jun 19 2008, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    (I remember everybody that I engaged in the breakdown team and I have no experience...)

    Can you send me an easy one, just to train me?


    You get better at breakdowns as you become a better spinner.

  8. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 15:23:49

    QUOTE (Stay'n Alive @ Jun 20 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't want you to train me, just to send me an easy vid to break.


    do your own homework... look for combos to break down in breakdown request (you can even breakdown old videos and compare with the solution...) or maybe in show off your combo.

  9. inotuh
    Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 15:49:26

    I can help...its just that my breakdowns are like....down to the grimes..for example..if I see a hybrid, Ill break it down to simpler tricks


    Demons Sonic 34-12 = Sonic 34- 24 > Pass Rev. 23-12


    So maybe this will be needed..if so, I am able to help!

  10. sketching
    Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 16:42:40

    When breaking down hybrids, please use the Interrupted Trick Notation

  11. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 16:44:16

    i personally wouldn't mind if the breakdowns came in formal and informal forms, if possible.

  12. AwonW
    Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 18:33:24

    I don't think that they're going to ask you to break something that easy.. you should get more practice and breakdown harder things.

  13. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 19:04:48

    this is not a place to put breakdowns,

    either put them in the request thread or in the thread where the videos came from.

  14. thig
    Date: Sat, Jun 21 2008 19:13:10

    For the sake of this thread, please limit the posts to comments, questions, or suggestions concerning the Breakdown Project.

  15. sangara
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 01:52:44

    Not to be a nag or anything but when will we know if we are apart of the team?

  16. thig
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:12:33

    I will let volunteers know once I finish grading. Sorry for taking so long.

  17. Xero
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:42:24

    So how would we go about doing this?
    Let's say there's a group of spinners that are assigned to do this, would we be assigned a video each to breakdown as the members post what they want broken down?
    Would there be a filter? Like, no combos over 45 seconds or no 2P2H?

    Also, I AM SO IN. I love trying to break combos. happy.gif
    For any of the people that are going to do this, I have a simplistic method of downloading youtube videos.
    That way, they can be slowed down if needed!

  18. thig
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 13:03:05

    Xero, your questions will be answered within the RD project thread. For now, all you need to know is that volunteers are required to faithfully participate in whatever breakdown assignments we may assign you to.

  19. Fresh
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 13:12:21

    QUOTE (Xero @ Jun 24 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So how would we go about doing this?
    Let's say there's a group of spinners that are assigned to do this, would we be assigned a video each to breakdown as the members post what they want broken down?
    Would there be a filter? Like, no combos over 45 seconds or no 2P2H?

    Also, I AM SO IN. I love trying to break combos. happy.gif
    For any of the people that are going to do this, I have a simplistic method of downloading youtube videos.
    That way, they can be slowed down if needed!


    Keepvid -> Enter URL of youtube video -> Download in 'high quality' (.mp4) -> Open in Quicktime ?

  20. NaDa
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 13:48:33

    To get videos in slow motion, I download the youtube videos then use VLC to play it in slow motion.

  21. Stay&#39;n Alive
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 16:33:18

    How do you download youtube vids?

  22. minche
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 16:35:36

    you can get firefox plugin
    search for video downloader
    then you just right click and download video wink.gif

  23. 000zero0000
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 17:54:33

    you can also goto sites that let you do it. can't remember from the top of my head tho..

  24. Zombo
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 17:56:24

    QUOTE (Stay'n Alive @ Jun 25 2008, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How do you download youtube vids?


    raed this etienne

    http://thefpsb.free.fr/viewtopic.php?t=6947

  25. Bigbud
    Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 16:49:23

    Any news on how the project is going? This thread has turned into a dload youtube videos thread...
    Are you only going to post the breakdowns when the whole project is finished, and where are you going to post the breakdowns?

  26. Shadowserpant
    Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 16:53:59

    well i dont really know all of that stuff, i'm not the leader, but the project is definitely progressing. We've got time limits and proofreadings and everything's going good.

  27. Fripâ„¢
    Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 16:58:01

    QUOTE (Bigbud @ Aug 11 2008, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Any news on how the project is going? This thread has turned into a dload youtube videos thread...
    Are you only going to post the breakdowns when the whole project is finished, and where are you going to post the breakdowns?


    For now, it just seems to me like the 'breakdown team' is a compilation of members who need special attention.

  28. thig
    Date: Tue, Aug 12 2008 03:21:55

    QUOTE (Bigbud @ Aug 11 2008, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Any news on how the project is going? This thread has turned into a dload youtube videos thread...
    Are you only going to post the breakdowns when the whole project is finished, and where are you going to post the breakdowns?

    We are in the middle of breakdown-ing the Genesis+RMX collab. We have completed about halfway through our second draft, and about a sixth of the final draft. We will post the breakdowns of Genesis+RMX when we finish breakdown-ing everyone in the Genesis+RMX collab.

  29. LMnet
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 19:05:49

    I think i can help to this project. I'm very good in breakdowning combos, i think i can breaking down almost all combos. And i'm breaking down key3's combo in Japen 3rd, it was really insane, in this breakdown i'm firstly use P as finger slot. I'm always use in breakdowns only official terms and systems. I'm pretty good in hybrids (i'm use only interrupted trick notation system). If u want to see my breakdowns, look at the Breakdown requests thread, 2-4 pages.

  30. Bigbud
    Date: Sat, Aug 23 2008 23:06:49

    QUOTE (thig @ Aug 12 2008, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    We are in the middle of breakdown-ing the Genesis+RMX collab. We have completed about halfway through our second draft, and about a sixth of the final draft. We will post the breakdowns of Genesis+RMX when we finish breakdown-ing everyone in the Genesis+RMX collab.

    Cool, but when are you going to post the breakdowns? And is there a list anywhere of all the collabs you're going to break down? How many have you done? Soz for question spam... I bet there's already a topic where you've posted them all... *sigh* stupid me...

  31. thig
    Date: Mon, Aug 25 2008 04:46:53

    We'll post the breakdowns after we complete the final draft. They'll be posted in the UPSBwiki.
    There is no list of collaborations to breakdown yet.
    We're still in the process of breakdown-ing Genesis+RMX, which is our first. This will probably be released mid/late-September.

  32. Sadistic
    Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 05:15:36

    @Outsmash (continued from previous thread)

    I would, but my notation is rather awful in terms of creating a clear image for new spinners (the people who will actually be reading the breakdowns) of what tricks the spinner is doing...considering how I often use poor terms xD

  33. sangara
    Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 05:28:48

    QUOTE (Sadistic @ Jan 19 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @Outsmash (continued from previous thread)

    I would, but my notation is rather awful in terms of creating a clear image for new spinners (the people who will actually be reading the breakdowns) of what tricks the spinner is doing...considering how I often use poor terms xD



    T_T I'm sorry for bashing your skills otherwise:

    I'm planning on reviving this and I'm probably going to run it a little different, rules for applying:
    • Must be active on UPSB (this includes signing on at least [a bare minimum] once per 2 days)
    • Must be willing to converse between other members (leave your drama outside the RD I won't be having it)
    • Must pass the qualification test (I will provide it by request)


    It's simple once we have the team I will elaborate more, do not send me PM's yet, I haven't made the test yet...

  34. Sadistic
    Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 05:35:53

    k lol...then mebe ill consider it....and I havn't forgot about your promise for a third spider spin vid =0

  35. cyshing
    Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 06:03:58

    @sangara: Hi, I'm planning to do some breakdowns of other videos(single clip, solo, collab) for MyPSC after my exam ends in the beginning of Feb. Although i'm not very good at the notations but i'm going to learn more after my exam ends. happy.gif

    I saw about this reviving UPSB breakdown team project so i'm thinking maybe i could join you for breakdown project. It will be like doing 1 job but i can post at 2 places(UPSB & MyPSC). I can post breakdowns for some single clips(which i think good for learning) here in UPSB too if you're not planning on breaking down single clips.

    If consider about sign-in rate, i guess i'm pretty active because i usually sign in to 2 boards(UPSB & MyPSC) at the same time and almost everyday on usual days, though i seldom post here(i usually come here to watch collab vids and read certain forums only, sometimes participate in discussion too, well, sometimes...).

    Give me a reply. wink.gif

  36. Shadowserpant
    Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 07:06:48

    want me to film a really complicated hybrid combo to test people with? ^^

  37. sangara
    Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 07:18:15

    QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Jan 19 2009, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    want me to film a really complicated hybrid combo to test people with? ^^

    The test will... test people but it won't be extremly difficult.

    And thank you Shadow :>


    Ok so I have made the test. Request to join here, I will contact you for further info.

  38. dust_kidメMT
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 02:30:58

    can I join?

  39. FripメECツ
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 03:33:35

    You guys act like you're the kings of breakdowning with that test. Don't make a test. People will take the test, pass it, join the breakdown team, and then just do "nothing".

    No, just invite the people that break down stuff in the breakdown thread. (Which is actually nobody at the moment, except yoonkwoon ands Shadow maybe) That way you know that they don't do it just for having a title with "UPSB Breakdown Team - I'm SO SPECIAL!".

    Personally I think this could help but I don't think it's necessary...if people don't do it on their own, they won't do it in a team for long. I broke down combos until I saw that it's useless for the major parts. People take one look at it and then they'll forget it. Most of the times..

    I can break stuff down, but I won't join..

    Otherwise... -> avatar.



    Ohh, can somebody show me the stuff the first Breakdown Team got done?

  40. sangara
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 03:56:38

    Frip honestly what is your problem, sure I'll admit it I put that in my title, but so what? That's no need to bash an entire team. And who said we're the king's of anything? Honestly you're the only one who has a problem with this idea. Maybe you should just leave UPSB and go back to your oh so great GPC, you aren't doing anything productive here, other than trying to impose your opinions on this board to make it "better" .


    I'd release what we did if I had permission.

  41. FripメECツ
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 03:59:28

    QUOTE (sangara @ Jan 21 2009, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'd release what we did if I had permission.


    That is the problem biggrin.gif

    Why are you guys so serious about this? o_O" It's better to do something than to do nothing. When you're doing nothing people will think what I think about the breakdown team.

    And the title thingy wasn't relasted to you lol I thought the breakdown team would be a members group like the Researchers or Historians, sorry ^^

  42. sangara
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:01:14

    QUOTE (FripメECツ @ Jan 21 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    That is the problem biggrin.gif

    Why are you guys so serious about this? o_O" It's better to do something than to do nothing. When you're doing nothing people will think what I think about the breakdown team.

    And the title thingy wasn't relasted to you lol I thought the breakdown team would be a members group like the Researchers or Historians, sorry ^^


    Why am I so serious? You're the one bashing everything we did, so like I said just leave.

  43. FripメECツ
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:03:41

    dry.gif I'm not bashing...i"m just being honest without all the ":D", "^^", and smile.gif smileys. That's why it sounds harsh.

    And like I said, you shouldn't make a test or so. You guys should just invite the people who break down combos on their own.

  44. sangara
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:08:44

    QUOTE (FripメECツ @ Jan 21 2009, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    dry.gif I'm not bashing...i"m just being honest without all the ":D", "^^", and smile.gif smileys. That's why it sounds harsh.

    And like I said, you shouldn't make a test or so. You guys should just invite the people who break down combos on their own.


    You want to know why there is a test? Would you rather not have someone who could actually break something down?

    And in your response to bashing or not bashing are you and I reading the same post?

  45. Fall
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:11:24

    Can I try?

    And if you fail, can you try again?

  46. Shadowserpant
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:17:48

    we set up an official test so that we don't get idiots like stay 'n alive breaking down everything wrong, and you get mad at us for "acting like the kings of breakdowns"
    seriously, be helpful or just leave

  47. FripメECツ
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:18:20

    QUOTE (sangara @ Jan 21 2009, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You want to know why there is a test? Would you rather not have someone who could actually break something down?

    And in your response to bashing or not bashing are you and I reading the same post?


    But if somebody breaks down combos in the breakdown thread you can tell if somebody is good or not.
    And I think that the breakdwon team should just fulfill the requests in the BReakdown thread instead of doing secret things haha biggrin.gif

  48. Fall
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:22:18

    QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Jan 21 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    we set up an official test so that we don't get idiots like stay 'n alive breaking down everything wrong, and you get mad at us for "acting like the kings of breakdowns"
    seriously, be helpful or just leave


    me?

    anyways, are we using formal notation (twisted sonic = charge 0.5 > pass rev. 23-12) or informal notation?

    Edit: I think I screwed up... >.<

  49. FripメECツ
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:25:03

    QUOTE (Fall @ Jan 21 2009, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    me?

    anyways, are we using formal notation (twisted sonic = charge 0.5 - pass rev. 23-12) or informal notation?


    Use formal notation. It's just easier to understand. People just want to know what the spinners are doing...if there are questions you could use informal.
    But breakdowns of combos are just to give you an idea what the spinner is doing. If there are really new, complicated hybrids then you could use informal.


    And no. Me! smile.gif

  50. sangara
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:43:49

    QUOTE (Fall @ Jan 21 2009, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    me?

    anyways, are we using formal notation (twisted sonic = charge 0.5 > pass rev. 23-12) or informal notation?

    Edit: I think I screwed up... >.<


    Use what ever you're most comfortable with right now. We'll go over everything in detail later.

  51. Daffy
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 21:56:58

    i would love to be apart of this.
    the only problem is that im not a very experienced spinner
    and i have a limited knowledge of trick.
    i dont think that i am breakdown team "material" but i will work a bit harder and
    i will maybe join the team later if i know a bit more than i do know. But i think that this is a great idea!

    oh and would just going on youtube and trying to breakdown some of the combos be good practice?

  52. Zombo
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 22:02:07

    uhh exactly from who are you waiting permission from, you're supposed to be the new leader of the project.

  53. Daffy
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 22:04:56

    o.0 mellow.gif me? lol

  54. Zombo
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 22:08:21

    no @ sangara

  55. sangara
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 23:38:27

    QUOTE (Zombo @ Jan 22 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    uhh exactly from who are you waiting permission from, you're supposed to be the new leader of the project.


    It was thig's thing dunno.gif I guess I could.

  56. Awesome
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 23:45:09

    QUOTE (Daffy @ Jan 22 2009, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    o.0 mellow.gif me? lol

    Make this guy leader

    This sounds like a good idea, I would love to be apart of it, but I never broke down a combo before, so if I ever get around to learning how, I will gladly join.

  57. SJ
    Date: Fri, Jan 23 2009 01:21:04

    lol i think this is more for the pros... imo

  58. sangara
    Date: Wed, Jan 28 2009 04:34:49

    Well since I only have 2 applicants of 3 that passed, I will not revive the team, it wont work with 3 people.

  59. dust_kidメMT
    Date: Wed, Jan 28 2009 20:46:42

    The former members could be used?

  60. BobMarley14
    Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 17:08:26

    I'll help, but whats the collab we're trying to do?