UPSB v3
Approved Tutorials / ZT tutorial
by K4S
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 04:39:00
Welcome to the ZT tutorial!
The 15th tutorial by me, K4S
By popular demand I have whipped up this tutorial. I had no idea people would like this mod so much haha. ZT stands for Zebra Telescopic/Telescope.
It started with a random trip to walmart to pick up some rsvp when I saw a neat pen on the shelf. This pen was the Zebra Tele-Scopic pen. I was intrigued by its extending ability so I knew I had to try and make something out of this. After a minute of brainstorming I figured a grip aviaire type mod would be most ideal and so voila, the ZT mod was born.
(I assume no responsibility if you are careless and sustain eye damage or dismember your finger/hand from trying to follow my tutorial to make this pen mod. Remember, you can’t spin pens without fingers.
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Some basic stats/info:
-14.8.0-16.0cm in its small form (depends on which method you used to make it)
-22.0cm in it’s long form
-COG = COP
-Heavy (about the same weight as a dr.KT)
-double sided
-Total cost is about $9-10 (depending how much grip you use and what method you use to link the 2 sections)
-No rattling when spun if made correctly.
So let us begin…err, wait a sec, not so fast. I have posted 2 ways of making this mod. The first method was my original way to making the mod (still recommended). Credit to Thnikk for telling me that the entire pen could be disassembled by pulling it apart really hard. After knowing you could take the entire pen apart a second method was developed for making the ZT. Both methods have their own pros/cons (see below for summary of pros/cons)
METHOD 1 (<--click)
Pros
- More sturdy when extended in its long form (the ends have virtually no wobble)
- Easier to make (minimal disassembly of the pen…you do not have to get the brass inserts back in which is a pain in the ass)
- Extending mechanism remains “stiff†(disassembling the pen like method 2 will “loosen†the sliding mechanism; consult Q&A section)
**As an added benefit of the stiff sliding mechanism you can extend the pen to your desired length (eg. 20cm; the pen is not fully extended) and it should stay at that length even if you spin it.**
Cons
- About 1cm longer than method 2 in its small form
- Costs a little more (about $0.40 more because it required a Bic Stic Grip)
- Requires an extra pen (Bic Stic Grip)
METHOD 2 (<--click)
Pros
- About 1cm shorter than method 1 in its small form
- Cheaper to make than method 1
- Requires one less pen to make (good if you do not have access to Bic Stic Grip pens)
Cons
- Less sturdy when extended in its long form (the ends wobble a little bit; it’s not that bad)
- More difficult to make (reinserting the brass inserts is tough)
- Extending/sliding mechanism is loosened due to required disassembly of the pen (the pen may extend by itself if spun hard in its small form)
NOTE:
Spoiler:
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Short introduction video to the ZT pen mod:
^ Big thanks to TEK for the photoshop work
Review of the ZT pen mod by Guitrum:
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Trouble Shooting Questions:
Q: Which method of linking the bodies do you recommend?
A: I recommend my method (method 1) because taking apart the entire pen and then trying to put it back together correctly with both brass inserts is a pain in the ass. Also, the extending section does not wobble as much (method 1) when fully extended due to better internal support.
Q: What grip do you recommend using for the middle?
A: I used slickpen grips because I have lots but since they are somewhat difficult to come by you can probably use anything (eg. rsvp, hgg, etc). You can even do what TEK did and tape the middle and then wrap an outsert in the middle if you don’t want a middle grip but want a more aesthetical way of covering the gap between the 2 pens. OR you can use no middle grip and have the middle bare (as seen in the final product picture)
Q: What colors do the Zebra Tele-scopic pens come in?
A: Black, Red, and Blue.
Q: I tried method 2 and I just cannot put it back together with both brass inserts. Can I just use 1 brass insert since I cant get both in?
A: I told you it was hard…The extending mechanism will be quite loose if you only use 1 brass insert. In other words, you need both brass inserts. Good luck.
Q: I linked the pens with method 2 but now the parts which extend seem to wobble when the pen is in its long form
A: Yeah, unfortunately the plug you removed when you disassembled the entire pen gave the black extendable section some support (additional support given by the inktube linking the 2 pens together)….so when you removed the internal backplugs it caused the extendable sections to have less internal support. Therefore, they will wobble when fully extended.
Q: Okay, so if the extendable sections wobble cant I just do what the original grip aviaire tutorial did and shove a paintbrush (or any sort of stick) inside to stabilize it?
A: Unless your paintbrush/stick can extend along with the pen, this will not work. The only way to stabilize the mod is to follow method 1.
Q: Why does disassembling the pen (method 2) loosen the sliding mechanism?
A: Well, from what I can tell when Zebra manufactures the pen the silver tube with brass inserts fits in from the back before they glue on the plug which the silver backplug screws into. Therefore, the brass inserts are initially not tampered with so they allow for a stiffer sliding mechanism. When you disassemble the pen by pulling it apart, you squish the brass inserts down (since it’s not meant to be disassembled like that). So when the pen is put back together the brass inserts have been squished and the sliding mechanism is loosened. While you will never be able recover the original stiff sliding mechanism you can consult STEP 6 (METHOD 2) for a possibly remedy.
Q: Did you know that G3 inktubes fit perfectly inside the ZT’s internal plastic tube? Can that be used to link the bodies (similar to method 1)?
A: Yes, I did know they fit…that is how my prototype was built (the one seen in my youtube video). I realized once my prototype was complete that G3’s were more difficult to come by and more expensive so I looked for a way to link the ZT bodies in a similar way but use more common/cheaper pens, hence why I ended up using a Bic Stic Grip section to link the bodies.
Q: I followed STEP 5 (METHOD 1) but the ZT’s internal plastic tube still rattles, what’s wrong?
A: In order to prevent the internal plastic tube from rattling you need to have cut the bic stic grip section long enough such that it will press against the internal plastic tube and prevent it from moving (rattling). If the internal plastic tubing still rattles then the Bic Stic Grip section is not long enough.
Q: This extending pen mod is a great idea. Is there a way to do this with regular pen parts?
A: Yes there are a few ways of doing this with regular pens…right now the concepts of doing such a thing are still ideas in my head and they remain somewhat difficult.
Q: Wow, in your retractable HCMX (hgg ink) tutorial you said you’re next tutorial would be an MP rsvp MX. Liar!
A: Yes, well that was the initial plan but things change :>
Q: Does the pen extend if you spin it hard enough in its small form?
A: If you made the pen via method 1 then no, the pen should be quite solid and only extend when you pull the ends apart. If you followed method 2 then by disassembling and reassembling the pen you essentially “loosened†the sliding extendable section so it may extend if you spin it hard enough. Consult STEP 6 (METHOD 2) for a possibly remedy.
Q: Could I add metal tips on the end?
A: Yes, but the mod is already as heavy (if not slightly heavier) than a dr.KT! …adding metal tips on each end would be overkill.
Q: Where do you buy the pens for this mod?
A: I found the zebra tele-scopic pens at walmart but they are likely sold at staples as well and possibly other department stores. Ebay sells the pens as well
Q: You’ve used zebra brand pens in a lot of your tutorials...
A: Coincidence…they just happen to make useful pens
Q: Why do you sometimes have [IMG] tags and other times you just post a [url] to the picture?
A: I’m limited to 10 pictures per post T_T
Q: Any way to get this thing to write?
A: Hmm, I have an idea or two but they need some more development.
Q: So, on your original method (method 1), why cant the ZT close completely?
A: Since the Bic Stic Grip section is pressing against the internal plastic tubes (to prevent rattling), the ZT cannot close completely. It’s only about 1cm longer than method 2 is.
Q: I’ve seen people call this GAE as well as ZT, what gives?
A: I initially named this mod “grip aviaire evolved†or “grip aviaire extensionâ€, but since the acronym would have been GAE (sounds like ‘gay’ lol), I changed it to ZT which stands for Zebra Telescopic/Telescope.
Q: ZOMG, triple post!
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 04:45:39
Method 1
Spoiler:
^click to expand tutorial :> -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 04:49:04
Method 2
Spoiler:
^click to expand tutorial :> -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 06:04:53
*Goes off to remod ZT since method one is way better*
On method two, one reason it may be shorter is if u twist the top, the brass inserts will twist with it, allowing the cap to move further in, but weakening the brass as well... (I did this...) -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 06:15:28
sexy ass pen
great job k4s -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 06:19:18QUOTE (CPM8 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>*Goes off to remod ZT since method one is way better*
On method two, one reason it may be shorter is if u twist the top, the brass inserts will twist with it, allowing the cap to move further in, but weakening the brass as well... (I did this...)
The reason the pen is shorter for method 2 is because you no longer have those ZT internal plastic tubing to worry about...since they are taken out, you dont need the middle joint to press against them (to prevent rattling) and so since nothing is pressing against them, the pen closes an extra 1cm. -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 06:20:56
Yeah, I just read through the Q&A...
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 06:34:46
omg this awesome ive been waiting for this
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 06:46:16
how does the plastic tube rattle?
does the tube have a smaller diameter or a shorter length?
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 06:52:01
sexy pen man !!! good job
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 06:53:38QUOTE (Aiyah @ Jun 24 2008, 02:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how does the plastic tube rattle?
It's easier to understand if you can see the pen yourself but basically, when you close the pen completely this internal plastic tube will press a metal piece upwards to cover up the ink. When you expand the pen, the plastic tubing will not longer press against the metal cover and the ink will be exposed. So this plastic tube has the ability to slide upwards and downwards to press against the metal cover and that is what rattles. -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 07:25:52
in method 1, should it take a lot of force to get that bic stic grip piece into the barrel =\ cause i can't seem to get it in -.-''
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 07:34:19
After a certain point you have to screw it in. It's a very tight fit which is why i recommend using the rubber band for grip as you twist it in.
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 08:13:01
Where can i buy Zebra Telescopic pens?
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 09:06:02QUOTE (spinz @ Jun 24 2008, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Where can i buy Zebra Telescopic pens?
almost anywhere they sell pens
staples
office depot
office max
fred meyers
walmart
target
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 09:09:51
I dont live in USA
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 10:03:12
i like this.
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 11:54:06
thats a really good mod.. ima make one if i can find the pens lolzorz
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 13:04:39
nice pen man
maybe i bike to staples today 
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 13:17:31
Method 1 is almost exactly how I made mine, I just used a shorter piece of the bic grip stic and it still rattled
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 13:18:20
what is this slickpen grip you speak of?
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 13:29:14
Nice mod K4s. Made one last night.
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 17:14:33
love it..and if i ever build this it will be following the first method
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 17:26:53QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jun 24 2008, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what is this slickpen grip you speak of?
Its the center grip used int he Grip Aviaire mod by Banz. K4S used it as the center grip in this mod as well. -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 17:27:45QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jun 24 2008, 06:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what is this slickpen grip you speak of?
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/t...s_2005_90452984
Slickpens ^^ -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 17:40:05
sooo cool
it's so interesting and looks better than KT
an, are Zebra Telescopics only available in USA? :/ -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 17:42:33QUOTE (minche @ Jun 24 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>an, are Zebra Telescopics only available in USA? :/
I found some at staples in Canada
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 17:44:53QUOTE (Baaron @ Jun 24 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I found some at staples in Canada
Canada is still too far away
i meant if they are available in Europe? -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 18:30:43QUOTE (minche @ Jun 24 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Canada is still too far away
i meant if they are available in Europe?
where do they sell slickpens? -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 18:56:38
Just wondering has anyone looked at useing the Expandz pen to do this yet ?
Its just the same but has a front metal grip.
This is the one used atm yes ?
I just thought this model might lend its self better for a join in the middle ?
I havnt looked at one yet as the shops where closed. But I thought that it might be possable to put a 2nd pen in the tip end of that metal grip as a join ?
I was thinking it might just be a case of unscrew the grip of 1 pen and the tip of the other and fingers crossed for a match.
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 23:45:16
OMG this is the coolest mod i've ever seen! K4S, you rock.
i went to walmart today and i couldnt find any zebra telescopics. :[
my walmart sucks. -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 23:46:35
Great mod - I'll make it if I'm able to grab some ZTs
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Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 00:18:21
question: does it still spin good if you dont put a grip in the middle? Like does the metal barrel feel weird or is it fine?
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Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 00:20:02QUOTE (Luke @ Jun 24 2008, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>question: does it still spin good if you dont put a grip in the middle? Like does the metal barrel feel weird or is it fine?
It spins fine with the grip but the silver parts of the pen are quite slippery -
Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 00:25:07QUOTE (ArcticPenguin @ Jun 24 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just wondering has anyone looked at useing the Expandz pen to do this yet ?
I havnt looked at one yet as the shops where closed. But I thought that it might be possable to put a 2nd pen in the tip end of that metal grip as a join ?
I was thinking it might just be a case of unscrew the grip of 1 pen and the tip of the other and fingers crossed for a match.
Anyone looked at it ?
Yea I bought two to see if I could do it but that tip in the front doesn't screw off. I'm not very innovative when it comes to modding but someone better might find a way. -
Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 22:36:26QUOTE (dorian_toy @ Jun 24 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OMG this is the coolest mod i've ever seen! K4S, you rock.
i went to walmart today and i couldnt find any zebra telescopics. :[
my walmart sucks.
haha nvm i went to longs drugs and they had it. so if anyone in the US is looking for these pens, they are also sold at longs drugs! :]
btw i made my bic round stic grip section one cm longer (cuz you said more is safer) and i thought i could cut it shorter later but its so hard to pull apart again x] sooo ill just keep it there haha.
if you pull hard outwards (like this |<-- -->|) will the pen parts come apart? -
Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 22:45:26QUOTE (minche @ Jun 24 2008, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>sooo cool
it's so interesting and looks better than KT
an, are Zebra Telescopics only available in USA? :/
if you didnt do wut u did...
thx for teh credit in 2nd K4S i didnt think about using a round stic piece to connect the barrels though. anyways, good job
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 16:30:25
I hope I can find these at wal-mart.
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Date: Fri, Jun 27 2008 05:34:33
The ZT looks like one awesome mod K4S. Nice job!
If only I could get my hands on the pens... -
Date: Fri, Jun 27 2008 05:47:20
if only it could write...
it would be my favorite mod -
Date: Fri, Jun 27 2008 22:49:23
oh man....
I made this mod 3 months ago but never released because my camera is still busted
I actually sawed of part of each end so that the black parts came completely together for a smaller sleeker look however the cutting was hard to accomplish so it was hard to get it right.
after cutting most of the way through the first I saw that a tube was inside, I pulled it out and put tape on it. I then used this tube to connect the parts together. It worked well and I was going to show it off butt it was hard to cut the barrels without ruining them and I was trying to figure out a way to make it writable.
good job on it though, I never would have thought of the bic part -
Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 06:38:16
R u sure its 2.4cm? that seems really long
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Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 07:29:47
Yes, the bic stic grip section screws in quite far to press against that ZT plastic tube. Also, the pen has to be extended (in it's long form) when you screw in the middle joint, otherwise if it's closed the ZT plastic tube will be pressed forward and you wont be able to screw it in as much.
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Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 07:51:43
i'm planning to overcut the bic section like you said, but i'm worried that once i put it together i won't be able to take it apart to cut it again :\
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Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 08:12:49
you dont push it in or pull it out with brute force... the plastic middle joint screws in so all you have to do to get it out is unscrew it ._.
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Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 09:00:50
you mod is beautiful K4S
Good job -
Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 09:25:03
WTF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhib-b6V89Y
i sound retarded because i have my retainer in -
Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 11:31:56
Are there Bic round stic pens in Europe or any other pen to use instead of them?
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Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 12:14:18
use g2 inktubes and wrap them in tape till they're thick enough to screw on to. help meh!!!1
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Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 18:13:47
Aries, when the bic grip section is screwed in correctly the ZT shouldnt close all the way (i address why in the Q&A)...so the one section that is loose in your video is correct but the other ZT you arent screwing in the bic grip section far enough. Also, if one side of the bic grip section is loose you can just throw on a very thin layer of teflon tape to make it a little thicker so it fits better. As for the ZT pen you are having trouble getting the middle section in far enough...get an elastic band and use that as grip to screw in the bic grip section farther in....it's supposed to be difficult to screw it all the way in which is why it keeps the pen so secure.
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 00:08:31
Made it. It pwns. I put a slickpen grip in the middle with dr. grip grip's on the end
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 00:49:49
I just made it too. I had a really hard time screwing in the zebra telescopic onto the middle joint. I ended up using pliers to get better torque. I really like this mod, and I think it's pretty impressive even to non-spinners.
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 01:57:03QUOTE (Aries @ Jun 28 2008, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the point of the light metal part not being able to be pushed down all the way is to minimize sound as far as i know. i was going to try something like that on my second one ( i think it was 2 days after k4s released the vid in show off your pens) I figured it out for one half but then was surprised when i found out that there is a version of the telescopics with metal insides too. that is what lead me to my method due to the inability do do what k4s did. if you are having the same problem aries (which i am not wuite sure of) then maybe you should try my way.
oh and btw, an easy way of checking if there are metal insides is by screwing off the little end pieces (the things that hold the clip on) and seeing if there are plastic threads or metal threads. -
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 06:02:40
can anyone tell me how to make this. the video dosent work for me and i cant find the video on ca youtube
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 06:05:38
the video is NOT a tutorial, it's an introduction to the ZT pen mod.
The tutorials are located on the second and third post...all you need to do is click them to expand the tutorial. -
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 14:15:38
Does bic stic grip part join those zebras enought that you don't have to put the grip on the middle? I mean, if I cut two grips and join them at the middle, they won't hold zebras (like it is in GA). So it's enought to join them by bic part and wrap the tape around it and ZT won't break at the middle?
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 20:08:20QUOTE (Tvister @ Jun 29 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does bic stic grip part join those zebras enought that you don't have to put the grip on the middle? I mean, if I cut two grips and join them at the middle, they won't hold zebras (like it is in GA). So it's enought to join them by bic part and wrap the tape around it and ZT won't break at the middle?
Yes, you don't need the middle grip to hold the zebras together. You have to screw the zebras in really tight, which serves to hold the mod together securely. -
Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 02:13:31
After trying out my friends ZT i decided to make one of my own. Its pretty nice, just even extended too long for me. But i chose option 1 so i can still use the pen if I dont like the mod. I can just adjust it because it doesnt slide loose. Great mod but i hate the grip in the middle.
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Date: Wed, Jul 2 2008 02:22:35
using method one, when screwing on the middle bic part, it is ALWAYS crooked what do i do??
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Date: Wed, Jul 2 2008 16:03:43QUOTE (Tain @ Jul 1 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>using method one, when screwing on the middle bic part, it is ALWAYS crooked what do i do??
Hmm, never run into that problem...how crooked? You should be able to just adjust the middle part before screwing on the second ZT pen. -
Date: Wed, Jul 2 2008 16:07:28QUOTE (Tain @ Jul 1 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>using method one, when screwing on the middle bic part, it is ALWAYS crooked what do i do??
yeah, when i was making my zt, it was slightly crooked as well
but i just sorta pushed the telescopic pen back up until it was straight (of down if your crooked like a V instead of a ^ )
i dunno how crooked your zt ended up being, but if it's slight, you should be able to adjust it even without screwing it out and redoing it---do push it back into place until it's straight and keep on screwing it in and it should stay straight -
Date: Wed, Jul 2 2008 21:49:37QUOTE (-JC- @ Jul 2 2008, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah, when i was making my zt, it was slightly crooked as well
but i just sorta pushed the telescopic pen back up until it was straight (of down if your crooked like a V instead of a ^ )
i dunno how crooked your zt ended up being, but if it's slight, you should be able to adjust it even without screwing it out and redoing it---do push it back into place until it's straight and keep on screwing it in and it should stay straight
no, i couldnt even get it on... it wouldnt thread correctly, so i was twisting it, but it wasnt moving in to the pen, just spinning around.. because it was so crooked.. -
Date: Fri, Jul 4 2008 02:38:42QUOTE (Tain @ Jul 2 2008, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no, i couldnt even get it on... it wouldnt thread correctly, so i was twisting it, but it wasnt moving in to the pen, just spinning around.. because it was so crooked..
You have to remember to push the middle section in as you screw it in because sometimes it's really hard to get in and if you just twist it expecting the middle section to screw in easily you will end up stripping it so that it just spins around in your case.
Anyway, in the midst of mass producing this mod for trades i encountered a few things relating to method 1:
-The length of the middle joint can vary anywhere from 2.4cm (as seen in my tutorial) down to about 1.9cm...i have no idea why lol, but just know that sometimes 2.4cm will be too long
-Sometimes screwing in the middle joint is VERY difficult. Usually, i just use brute force strength (plus an elastic band for grip) to just push and screw the middle joint in. You NEED to push the middle joint inwards as you screw it in because the ZT's metal threading is carving into the plastic middle joint and if you dont push inwards to help it along you will end up stripping the threading on the middle joint.
- On rare occasions the middle joint doesnt even need to be screwed in and will just push into the ZT pen completely which is bad because that means it is no longer securing the 2 ZT pens together. The solution to this is simple: Teflon Tape. Just wrap a thin layer of teflon tape around the middle joint and it should screw into the ZT pen a lot better and hold it securely. -
Date: Fri, Jul 4 2008 03:41:55
hey has anyone ran into a problem with the metal telescopic insides version yet?
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Date: Fri, Jul 4 2008 04:17:03QUOTE (thnikk @ Jul 3 2008, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey has anyone ran into a problem with the metal telescopic insides version yet?
eh, the ZT's normal plastic inner tube is metal on some versions? Wouldn't method 1 still work? -
Date: Fri, Jul 4 2008 18:11:03
Hey K4S, This is my new favorite mod. I love the fact that it extends. The only Problem I had was I got two red and two blue ZT pens so when i put the two blue together, one of them wouldnt stay with the lining of the bic and kept sliding out, do i made a red and blue one. It worked fine except when I clsoe the two, the red is a little longer then the blue so its uneven when I put the grip on. Any solutions just let me know. :]
Anyway Great pen.
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Date: Fri, Jul 4 2008 21:39:59
^Maybe the bic part is screwed too much into one side. The tube sounds to be pushing onto the bic piece too much on one side, so when u close it, it doesnt close all the way.
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Date: Sat, Jul 5 2008 02:47:54
You could probably put the metal tips into the grips at the ends for extra weight.
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Date: Sat, Jul 5 2008 03:16:30
it's heavy enough
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Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 19:04:48QUOTE (K4S @ Jul 3 2008, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>eh, the ZT's normal plastic inner tube is metal on some versions? Wouldn't method 1 still work?
uhh, yeah but i think there still might be some sound with it. maybe a g-2 inktube would work for that....gif)
i had a pic of it on my desktop... oh well
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Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 11:41:52
Would the grip of Uniball Signo DX fit into the barrel? Cos im trying to find a substitude.
Oh, and can the ink tube of G2 be able to substitude the 2.4 piece in method one? -
Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 13:54:07
has anyone had problems with the metal things on the ends falling out? it seems the threads on mine are comepletely worn out and i have to hold it in with teflon
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Date: Wed, Jul 9 2008 23:18:51
you are god!
id get my girlfriend to make love with you if you lived near me
or if i even had a girlfriend
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Date: Wed, Jul 9 2008 23:25:41QUOTE (Mightyboy @ Jul 7 2008, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Would the grip of Uniball Signo DX fit into the barrel? Cos im trying to find a substitude.
Oh, and can the ink tube of G2 be able to substitude the 2.4 piece in method one?
it would fit as the middle part, thats wat i used on mine
i also used the ink tube from a G2 for the middle part, u just need some teflon tape -
Date: Thu, Jul 10 2008 02:44:03
thanks for the tuto k4s, but i was wondering if there was a way to stop rattling in way 1 without taking apart the whole pen
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Date: Thu, Jul 10 2008 03:28:49
Uh for method 1 the only thing you remove is the metal tip, the inside metal part (with spring), inktube, and the back clip...takes like 10 seconds at most to unscrew everything. The only time you need to disassemble the whole pen is if you make it using method 2.
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Date: Thu, Jul 10 2008 18:30:52QUOTE (K4S @ Jul 9 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Uh for method 1 the only thing you remove is the metal tip, the inside metal part (with spring), inktube, and the back clip...takes like 10 seconds at most to unscrew everything. The only time you need to disassemble the whole pen is if you make it using method 2.
yeah iknow. i was wonering if there was a way to stop the rattling without taking the pen apart.... -
Date: Thu, Jul 10 2008 18:41:48
but you don't need to take it apart for method one...
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Date: Thu, Jul 10 2008 20:13:30QUOTE (blank @ Jul 10 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah iknow. i was wonering if there was a way to stop the rattling without taking the pen apart....
What you're saying makes no sense...in order to make the mod in the first place you need to take off 4 things, so if you dont want to remove those 4 things you can't even make my mod
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Date: Thu, Jul 10 2008 22:15:56QUOTE (blank @ Jul 10 2008, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah iknow. i was wonering if there was a way to stop the rattling without taking the pen apart....
Uhhhh, I was trying another method until i realized i had a plastic and a metal version (which really pissed me off) I think the reason it rattles in method 1 is because of the plastic tubes inside. what I was trying was this...
1: empty a g-2 inktube
2: put it in one emptied out tele-scopics
3: make a mark on the inktube where it stopped
4: double the length from the end to the mark and make another mark.
5: cut at the SECOND mark
6: wrap teflon tape around the inktube
7: slide middle grip down one of the telescopics in its extended form
8: screw the 2 telescpics together with the g-2 inktube in the middle
9: put a little bit of tape where the barrels join
10: slide grip to the middle
Nao if you understand what im saying, then thats awsum. I suck at describing this stuff so w/e. what im talking about is that the tubes slide back and forth, but if you push them all the way to the ends, no moar sound. -
Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 00:07:05
http://www.jetpens.com/product_info.php/cP...roducts_id/2581
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Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 01:35:50QUOTE (thnikk @ Jul 10 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Uhhhh, I was trying another method until i realized i had a plastic and a metal version (which really pissed me off) I think the reason it rattles in method 1 is because of the plastic tubes inside. what I was trying was this...
1: empty a g-2 inktube
2: put it in one emptied out tele-scopics
3: make a mark on the inktube where it stopped
4: double the length from the end to the mark and make another mark.
5: cut at the SECOND mark
6: wrap teflon tape around the inktube
7: slide middle grip down one of the telescopics in its extended form
8: screw the 2 telescpics together with the g-2 inktube in the middle
9: put a little bit of tape where the barrels join
10: slide grip to the middle
Nao if you understand what im saying, then thats awsum. I suck at describing this stuff so w/e. what im talking about is that the tubes slide back and forth, but if you push them all the way to the ends, no moar sound.
dude i compeltely get that! so it stops the rattling?? also would like a straw work? -
Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 06:07:37QUOTE (thnikk @ Jul 10 2008, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nao if you understand what im saying, then thats awsum. I suck at describing this stuff so w/e. what im talking about is that the tubes slide back and forth, but if you push them all the way to the ends, no moar sound.
Uh, that's the point of my method 1....to push the plastic tubes to the sides so that they stop rattling....QUOTE (blank @ Jul 10 2008, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dude i compeltely get that! so it stops the rattling?? also would like a straw work?
Seriously, have you even read through my tutorial? If you follow it correctly there shouldn't be any rattling.
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Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 06:32:43QUOTE (K4S @ Jul 10 2008, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Seriously, have you even read through my tutorial? If you follow it correctly there should be any rattling.
shouldn't*
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Date: Sun, Jul 13 2008 03:56:05QUOTE (K4S @ Jul 10 2008, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Uh, that's the point of my method 1....to push the plastic tubes to the sides so that they stop rattling....
Seriously, have you even read through my tutorial? If you follow it correctly there shouldn't be any rattling.
edit: ._.
Oh. THEN STOP COMPLAINING AND DO IT RIGHT BLANK!!!!! gawd
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Date: Sun, Jul 13 2008 04:52:17
is it possible to replace the grip with dr.drip??
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Date: Sun, Jul 13 2008 04:54:13QUOTE (Professor @ Jul 12 2008, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is it possible to replace the grip with dr.drip??
I assume you are talking about the outside grips? Yes, you can use whatever grips you want on the sides. If you are referring to the middle grip i think dr.grip grip is a little big. -
Date: Sun, Jul 13 2008 07:07:48
I read up the part about the prototype that K4S have mentioned.
Thus is tried using G3 inktube considering the fact that it is much more common in singapore as compared to bic stic.
U practically needed the WHOLE ink tube. U just nid to file it a little shorter, and plant it into both ZTs. Works PERFECTLY well for me. -
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 05:40:06
Awesome mod! I can't wait to make one some day.
Sorry for getting off topic but i remember you saying on the UCPSB that you were going to make three versions of the Sb RSVP vortex, Did you make the tutorials or is just that i can't find them? >< -
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 09:52:57
Nice K4S!! I luv ya for this mod!! It so dam expensive though... Wasted SGD11.80 on buying 2 telescopics. I did it using method 2, but i didnt manage to get 2 of the brass thingy in so i just get 1 in only. I also used G3 inktube to connect them together. Works very well.
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Date: Thu, Jul 17 2008 09:41:43
Best tut on zt ever.
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Date: Thu, Jul 17 2008 22:24:17QUOTE (BlacknWhite @ Jul 16 2008, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nice K4S!! I luv ya for this mod!! It so dam expensive though... Wasted SGD11.80 on buying 2 telescopics. I did it using method 2, but i didnt manage to get 2 of the brass thingy in so i just get 1 in only. I also used G3 inktube to connect them together. Works very well.
:/ it is kinda kard to get back on. wat u need to do is push the highest part of the little stopper things down and try to fit both of them under. kinda tricky but I have done it leik 4 times (messing 1 1/2 up)QUOTE (Professor @ Jul 17 2008, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Best tut on zt ever.
have there been others?
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Date: Thu, Jul 17 2008 22:46:24
I brought zebra telescopics in the 2 pack i made a zt and then i realized it was unbalenced so i took it apart and discover the zebras were different the brackets that hold the tube in were different length. also the grooves that hold the end caps in were different one was plastic the other metal if you by 2 packs have you realized this?
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Date: Fri, Jul 18 2008 03:26:08QUOTE (VORTECH @ Jul 17 2008, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I brought zebra telescopics in the 2 pack i made a zt and then i realized it was unbalenced so i took it apart and discover the zebras were different the brackets that hold the tube in were different length. also the grooves that hold the end caps in were different one was plastic the other metal if you by 2 packs have you realized this?
the weights uneven
looks like someone didnt read my posts
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Date: Fri, Jul 18 2008 07:08:34QUOTE (Guan_Bi @ Jul 16 2008, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Awesome mod! I can't wait to make one some day.
Sorry for getting off topic but i remember you saying on the UCPSB that you were going to make three versions of the Sb RSVP vortex, Did you make the tutorials or is just that i can't find them? ><
I never completed them because there wasnt really enough public interest. As well, the difficulty was pretty high and people were already having trouble with some of my other tricky pen mods
QUOTE (VORTECH @ Jul 17 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I brought zebra telescopics in the 2 pack i made a zt and then i realized it was unbalenced so i took it apart and discover the zebras were different the brackets that hold the tube in were different length. also the grooves that hold the end caps in were different one was plastic the other metal if you by 2 packs have you realized this?
the weights uneven
I have personally never encountered the inner metal tube version...all the ZT's i buy have plastic tubes in the middle, but yes, it does appear that some people can find both subversions of the ZT pens. -
Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 02:46:41
Hm, I don't like how heavy it is in the center. Anyway to counter that?
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Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 05:50:58
I tried the Zt but when i took it apart i couldnt get it completely apart how should i dissemble it?
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 04:57:19
whats teh rubberband for? in method 1.. do u ned to put it on the mod or just temp use
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 04:59:59QUOTE (ThePenSpinGuy @ Jul 22 2008, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whats teh rubberband for? in method 1.. do u ned to put it on the mod or just temp use
it's used to screw in the bic stic grip section...sometimes it screws into the ZT very easily but sometimes it's really really hard ._. -
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 05:19:47
i like using a taped up G2 inktube barrel better
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Date: Thu, Jul 24 2008 14:07:00
me too
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Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 10:51:00
oh cool, this looks like a cool pen
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Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 22:35:29
10.3 cm of a uni-ball GEL IMPACT inktube works for method 1 too
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Date: Sat, Jul 26 2008 17:44:13QUOTE (thnikk @ Jul 25 2008, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>10.3 cm of a uni-ball GEL IMPACT inktube works for method 1 too they actually fit perfectly inside all of teh inner mechs
Nice sub. The exact same length as if you used a G3 inktube :> -
Date: Sun, Jul 27 2008 05:07:12QUOTE (K4S @ Jul 18 2008, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I never completed them because there wasnt really enough public interest. As well, the difficulty was pretty high and people were already having trouble with some of my other tricky pen mods
Wahaha oohh ic ic that's okay. I plan on making a ZT and a SB sunburst vortex which is what my friend did I especially love that Monami-R rsvp MX *drools* Don't care how hard they are to make! hehehe! Thanks for the tutorials!
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 04:27:34
mm..i'm wondering if i use the dr grip grip for the 2 ends would i need to cut 1 into 2 pieces or just use 2? (i'm kinda new to pen spinning/modding)
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 04:28:58
Cut 1 grip into two pieces. Using a full grip would be difficult to put on and it would take up too much room imo.
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 04:56:19
I don't like the momentum but I love extending/retracting it. Anyway to fix it? Adding some signos to the sides is just too much.
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 04:57:47QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Jul 28 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't like the momentum but I love extending/retracting it. Anyway to fix it? Adding some signos to the sides is just too much.
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 05:09:48
i bought the wrong kind but the pen was what i think would be the grip version, as it was still by zebra, but with sorta a extension of the end barrel infused with the tip.
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 05:22:09
No, you bought the wrong pen, sorry
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 18:07:19
made 2 a couple days ago and i found that if you stick little pieces of paper that are a little less than the diameter of the metal ZT tube before you screw on the bic stic grip section, it helps stop the rattling a little better. i coudnt do it with just the bic stic grip thing.
the pen is great once you get used to it and is extremely versatile; you can make it medium weight, heavy, extremely heavy etc. if you're good with outserts, you can wake it look however you want. my only complaint is how it seems so dense and heavy near the middle of the pen (metal barrel). no other pen is like this. awesome job k4s! -
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 02:58:56
hey what did u use to cut the bic stic barrel thing? i'm using an exacto knife. after cutting it forever i only got like 2mm...and my hand is killing me `-`
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Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 03:21:19QUOTE (Point @ Jul 30 2008, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey what did u use to cut the bic stic barrel thing? i'm using an exacto knife. after cutting it forever i only got like 2mm...and my hand is killing me `-`
Dont be scared of cutting it just push through as straight as you can through with a razor blade or your exacto knife cuz sawing back and forth is gonna take forever. -
Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 07:43:28
I just slapped an outsert on the center part cause I don't like the grip aviare type mods, and it's quickly become one of my favorite mods, especially only semi extended, cause I have small hands.
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Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 16:44:48QUOTE (Point @ Jul 30 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey what did u use to cut the bic stic barrel thing? i'm using an exacto knife. after cutting it forever i only got like 2mm...and my hand is killing me `-`
wtf? its pretty soft plastic. maybe you should get some new blades because the one you're using must be pretty dull (or you're just a wimp)
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Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 21:10:01
I've broke one ZT... When I was screwing two ZTs together, golden part, which is holding tip, screwed off. I tried one more time but I had same problem as Aires. One of ZTs could be easly unscrewed. So I tried again. I cut 2.4 cm of bic stic grip and I'm trying to screw it now but even if I screw both of them enought it's still a space between ZTs. Isn't 2.4 cm too long? And I have one more problem. I can screw easly only one side of this bic part... Do I have to fill other one?
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Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 07:34:16
if one side is too loose you need to cover the bic part with some teflon tape. As i said before, from mass modding this pen for trades it seems that my initial 2.4cm was a rare occurence. It's a good place to start at though and you can shorten it from there so it fits better.
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Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 11:03:01
cybrax traded for one of these.. their heavy so good practice pen it can be size reduced which is also awesome
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Date: Fri, Aug 8 2008 03:01:03
The Bic Stic Grip section should be long enough such that it pressed AGAINST the ZT’s internal plastic tube to prevent rattling but is exactly long enough that you can join both ZT pens together seamlessly!
when u put in the bic stic thingy, should it hit something in the ZT? or do u have to like even it out >.> -
Date: Fri, Aug 8 2008 03:11:10
yes, it'll stop going in when it hits the plastic tube inside
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Date: Fri, Aug 8 2008 21:21:51
10/10 K4S, moderately cheap and spins great! plently of momentum too! keep it up
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Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 16:09:51
made it. took meh 2hrs? iunno how u pro modders make pens but this looks easy but it is really hard. err, 2.4cm? i used a shorter bic grip like darkeh, and it worked..tho it rattled still... im fine with that
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Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 18:37:46QUOTE (ThePenSpinGay @ Aug 10 2008, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>made it. took meh 2hrs? iunno how u pro modders make pens but this looks easy but it is really hard. err, 2.4cm? i used a shorter bic grip like darkeh, and it worked..tho it rattled still... im fine with that
dude, screw off tips and ends, take crap out, put ends back on, put grips on ends, put middle grip on one side, cut ultra round stic grip, put in middle, tape,and slide grip in middle. its not that hard :handonface: i think ive made one in like 7 mins -
Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 21:20:02
What are people using for the outer middle grip section? I've seen some with a plastic piece and an insert. What is that?
I've heard about using a slick grip but is there a sub for that?
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Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 03:58:42QUOTE (thnikk @ Aug 10 2008, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dude, screw off tips and ends, take crap out, put ends back on, put grips on ends, put middle grip on one side, cut ultra round stic grip, put in middle, tape,and slide grip in middle. its not that hard :handonface: i think ive made one in like 7 mins
u make it sound so easy!!! (thnikk=next pro modder?) err cuz when i made ZT, the bic wouldnt go in. i staye up to 11 pm last night making it T.T making it smaller and stuffies. pic of ur ZT pl0x?
P.S=:handonface: mine!
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Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 08:33:32
Second......nice)))
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Date: Tue, Aug 12 2008 19:40:04
the spoilers arent working. can someone explain how to make it
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Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 22:42:56
i just made this and it's A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!!!!!! It is definitely one of my favorites, although i took off the grip in the middle since i don't like pen mods with grips in the middle.
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 01:23:36QUOTE (ThePenSpinGuy @ Aug 10 2008, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>u make it sound so easy!!! (thnikk=next pro modder?) err cuz when i made ZT, the bic wouldnt go in. i staye up to 11 pm last night making it T.T making it smaller and stuffies. pic of ur ZT pl0x?
P.S=:handonface: mine!
it took me liek 10 mintues to make mine O_o
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Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 21:30:41
Do Telescopics come in different sizes? I saw a pack of them at Staples, but they looked REALLY thin...or is it supposed to be thin?
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Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 21:46:28
It shouldn't be "really thin", if I remember correctly, there is a smaller version of the telescopic.
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 02:01:32QUOTE (K4S @ Jun 24 2008, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The reason the pen is shorter for method 2 is because you no longer have those ZT internal plastic tubing to worry about...since they are taken out, you dont need the middle joint to press against them (to prevent rattling) and so since nothing is pressing against them, the pen closes an extra 1cm.
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 02:45:03QUOTE (swbaseball @ Sep 2 2008, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>does it have to be a bic stic grip or can i use someother type
i think g3 inktubes may work as wel. gelly roll inktubes too? bic stic grips can easily be found at walmart btw. -
Date: Sat, Oct 11 2008 16:13:27
Hmm... Have anyone mentioned that there's Expandz Mini?
Maybe it's possible to make ZT out of them... ( Imagine pink vs skyblue ZT )
Click here for info... -
Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 00:25:50
Hm That would be sweet if those worked. It would really make Zts look amazing.
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Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 02:32:32
anyone else have this problem with their zt: whenever i closed mine i clicked the ends hard together. this eventually caused the threads holding the weights on the ends to break and now the weights wont stay in.
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Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 02:37:03
Make a new one, i personally think this is a very simple mod but too heavy. Yet it is revolutionary
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Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 21:37:57
I can't get the freaking side grip on. I'm trying to use G2 grips like Guitrum. One went on just fine, but the other has a cm hanging off that I JUST CAN'T GET ON! It's driving me insane! Solutions?
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Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 22:07:20
Interesting find iVodka, i might look into those
QUOTE (luke @ Oct 12 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>anyone else have this problem with their zt: whenever i closed mine i clicked the ends hard together. this eventually caused the threads holding the weights on the ends to break and now the weights wont stay in.
Hasn't happened to me but i have never closed my ZT mods hard so that they click.QUOTE (Zweebna @ Oct 13 2008, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I can't get the freaking side grip on. I'm trying to use G2 grips like Guitrum. One went on just fine, but the other has a cm hanging off that I JUST CAN'T GET ON! It's driving me insane! Solutions?
Rubbing alcohol helps lubricate the grip as you slide it on...it's what i use for tough grips. Either that or brute force but brute forcing grips on hurts the fingers. -
Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 00:42:22
I looked and for some reason I have no rubbing alcohol...
Is there anything else that would work?
EDIT: Nevermind, I found some. -
Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 00:43:31
soapy water would also work...you only need minimal soap though.
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 02:08:59
OK, don't use the rubbing alcohol on this pen. It completely fucked it up and now I have to make a new one.
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 04:41:57
Really? Didnt know, sorry.
I've used nail polish to get rid of the sticker glue that's left behind on some ZT pens and it never damaged the pen at all. As far as i know the acetone in nail polish is a lot worse than rubbing alcohol ._. -
Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 05:02:33
or you could use the inktube method... its ALOT easier and way cleaner
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Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 22:43:01
funnest pen mod ever!
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Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 02:53:26
Yo K4S, this is the most Bad Ass pen mod ever. I just finished mine, which only took a few minutes. I put a TUL grip in the middle, and it looks like Darth Maul's Lightsaber when I spin it
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Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 12:47:08
Q: Would method 1 hold together if you drop it?
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No need to quote the whole first post... -
Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 00:09:10
Is there some way I could purchase the mod pre-made? It's not on Penwish and my mods always come out like crap. Th grips used aren't even listed on Penwish, so I'm not sure I have access to the tools needed.
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Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 00:50:13
Dude very sweet. Its flashy, but pratical and works. Awesome
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Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 07:48:16QUOTE (Nzo @ Nov 23 2008, 08:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Q: Would method 1 hold together if you drop it?
Method 1 is more durable than method 2, so yes it should withstand drops.QUOTE (Archermitch @ Nov 26 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is there some way I could purchase the mod pre-made? It's not on Penwish and my mods always come out like crap. Th grips used aren't even listed on Penwish, so I'm not sure I have access to the tools needed.
I suppose i can trade you one, PM me. -
Date: Sat, Dec 27 2008 20:20:28
Thanks for this tutorial, I like this mod a lot. If only it could write, I'd love this pen even more
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Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 01:40:54
Q: Has anyone else had a slight clicking sound when one end is twisted in further when retracted? It sounds like the inner mechanisms are hitting each other, then clicking and retracting further. Don't know how to describe it better than this.
Otherwise, awesome mod. I saw it on the wiki, went to Office Max to buy some pens earlier today, and somehow, they had these! So now, I have an awesome mod. Good job K4S -
Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 02:28:46QUOTE (AznPSNub @ Dec 28 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Q: Has anyone else had a slight clicking sound when one end is twisted in further when retracted? It sounds like the inner mechanisms are hitting each other, then clicking and retracting further. Don't know how to describe it better than this.
If it's clicking then the connector is not long enough to be pushing against the inner mechanism to stop it from rattling. -
Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 04:09:11QUOTE (AznPSNub @ Dec 28 2008, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Q: Has anyone else had a slight clicking sound when one end is twisted in further when retracted? It sounds like the inner mechanisms are hitting each other, then clicking and retracting further. Don't know how to describe it better than this.
Otherwise, awesome mod. I saw it on the wiki, went to Office Max to buy some pens earlier today, and somehow, they had these! So now, I have an awesome mod. Good job K4S
DO NOT PUSH IT SO FAR IN THAT IT CLICKS. it wrecks up the threads holding the metal ends on if you do it too much. -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 18:19:11QUOTE (luke @ Dec 28 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>DO NOT PUSH IT SO FAR IN THAT IT CLICKS. it wrecks up the threads holding the metal ends on if you do it too much.
I think I might have done that accidentally, while pushing on an end grip. But now, it doesn't require force to make it click, I just turn the barrel inwards and push it slightly, and it twists(and clicks) into place. I think it won't have too much of an effect on the spinning or sturdiness of the mod. Thanks for the help though. -
Date: Tue, Jan 6 2009 22:37:01
So I decided to make a new ZT mod and it didn't work.
Here's my problem: The Bic Round Stic WILL NOT FIX IN MY ZT! It just slides in and slides out, and I can't think of anything to fix it
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Date: Wed, Jan 7 2009 00:05:30QUOTE (homesliceme @ Jan 6 2009, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So I decided to make a new ZT mod and it didn't work.
Here's my problem: The Bic Round Stic WILL NOT FIX IN MY ZT! It just slides in and slides out, and I can't think of anything to fix it
Help?
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Date: Fri, Jan 9 2009 11:03:57
Here can you find them? Not Walmart or Office Max http://www.upsb.info/forum/style_emoticons...lt/rolleyes.gif, cause I live far from those stores, or some do not exist in my area. http://www.upsb.info/forum/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif They disappeared from my shevles a long time ago. Do they only sell them now online (Amazon, lol)? I don't see them around any more. I used to see them all the time during the summer, like in staples, but I never was into pen spinning until a month ago. If anyone has seen it lately, like Office Depot or Target, then I would be glad. lol http://www.upsb.info/forum/style_emoticons...ault/happyy.gif
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 05:00:41
in the q & a it said g3 inktubes work fine, so then do i just sub it for the bic stic grip or is there another way to do it
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Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 12:26:59QUOTE (pongpong @ Jan 10 2009, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>in the q & a it said g3 inktubes work fine, so then do i just sub it for the bic stic grip or is there another way to do it
It's been a while, but if i remember correctly you will need to wrap some tape around the G3 inktube in order to get it to hold the 2 ZT pens together. -
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 12:37:21QUOTE (homesliceme @ Jan 7 2009, 06:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So I decided to make a new ZT mod and it didn't work.
Here's my problem: The Bic Round Stic WILL NOT FIX IN MY ZT! It just slides in and slides out, and I can't think of anything to fix it
Help?
i realised that only after wasting 2 grip stics -
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 21:38:34
hey, thanks for such a great mod ^^
I don't really know if it had mentioned here before, but.. another point about g3 inktube. I used it to do my ZT mod ( i cut off about 2.5 cm of it, take the longest part and wrap some tape in the middle) by method 1... And I was rather surprised that mod was 14.8 cm length when I finished it xDD So g3 perfectly inktube slides into the telescopic part of Zebra, and it's can close completely ^^ Well, no pain in ass and it's small in its "shorten form".. Only pros xD -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 00:25:37
Never mind... they have new ones at staples that come in colors. It's cool. Nice pen mod.
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Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 21:15:33
Dammit, I've checked like every online catalogue and still can't find a chain that has them in their online catalogue than OfficeMax, but there are no Office Max outlets in Canada. So, are they not available in Ontario (where I live), or do they just not put them in their online catalogue?
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Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:17:09
i plan on doing method 1 but do u have to have a middle grip and i can get a zebra in the US right cause i live near a office max and an office depot will they be there?
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Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 04:43:07QUOTE (gerb234 @ Jan 22 2009, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i plan on doing method 1 but do u have to have a middle grip and i can get a zebra in the US right cause i live near a office max and an office depot will they be there?
They should be there, since zebra is a mainstream writing instrument manufacturer. The grip in the middle is not necessary...one of my personal ZT mods has an outsert in the middle to cover the small gap between the pens and it works just fine. -
Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 03:12:02
I don't know if the question has allready been asked, but I want to be sure: is it okay if I use a HGG grip for the middle and two G2 grips for the sides ?
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Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 05:18:25QUOTE (Hefix @ Jan 23 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't know if the question has allready been asked, but I want to be sure: is it okay if I use a HGG grip for the middle and two G2 grips for the sides ?
Thank you !
There is no set middle grip or end grips... Use whatever you have -
Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 19:14:08
I wasn't so sure so thank !
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Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 07:01:06
I think a nice grip to use would be Signo DX.
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Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 12:54:46
Anyone knows where can I the ZT pens in Singapore? T.T
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Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 16:15:08
this pen has some of the weirdest momentum... but pulling it out is so cool! =P
i think thats the only reason i made it XD
BTW i made it exactly according to method 1, and my precision scale says it weighs 25g. might want to put that in your tut K4S? -
Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 15:00:18
Hmmmm Can I have the exact name of the pen grip used in the center of the mod & at the end of the mod?? Thank you
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Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 01:39:19
Just made this mod, fun to spin!
Could you drop some glue into the bodies to prevent the plastic tube from rattling, but not needing the bic stick grip to push the plastic pieces? -
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 16:56:58
I made this last night and loveee it now!! I can't put it down. I had a hard time putting them together at first but with a little rubber cement and tape got it good. I used an RSVP grip in the middle and RSVP grips on the ends. I love spinning it. Thanks for this awesome tutorial!
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Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 19:20:24QUOTE (freehand @ Feb 6 2009, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I made this last night and loveee it now!! I can't put it down. I had a hard time putting them together at first but with a little rubber cement and tape got it good. I used an RSVP grip in the middle and RSVP grips on the ends. I love spinning it. Thanks for this awesome tutorial!
You are in America? Were the pens easy to find?
Would a Bic Round Stic work for the grip? I can't seem to find any normal Bic Stics.
What's the full names of the pens used for the grips?
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Date: Sat, Feb 7 2009 04:27:29
yes, they are very easy to find in America, you just have to go to a specialty store (like Office Maxx or Office Depot).
I don't think a round sic grip would work, it's not very stretchable, but i have not tried it.
you can use any grips- sailor gel, profile, RsVP, G32, any grip is fine for the ends. as for the middle, just put an outsert, or use the grip that K4S used in his tut, but any stretchy grip will do fine. -
Date: Sat, Feb 7 2009 04:42:30QUOTE (rverse_x @ Feb 6 2009, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yes, they are very easy to find in America, you just have to go to a specialty store (like Office Maxx or Office Depot).
I don't think a round sic grip would work, it's not very stretchable, but i have not tried it.
you can use any grips- sailor gel, profile, RsVP, G32, any grip is fine for the ends. as for the middle, just put an outsert, or use the grip that K4S used in his tut, but any stretchy grip will do fine.
On what pens can I find a slickpen grip or a Beifa grip?
and thanks for the reply. I always appreciate the help I got on these boards.
Edit: I have made this mod and I can officially say it is my main pen from now on. This pen is freakin awesome. -
Date: Sat, Feb 7 2009 19:52:59QUOTE (Archermitch @ Feb 6 2009, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You are in America? Were the pens easy to find?
Would a Bic Round Stic work for the grip? I can't seem to find any normal Bic Stics.
What's the full names of the pens used for the grips?
Sorry for all the questions...
Got Mine at office depot. They had them right there. Easy to find. -
Date: Mon, Mar 2 2009 00:27:55QUOTE (K4S @ Jul 22 2008, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it's used to screw in the bic stic grip section...sometimes it screws into the ZT very easily but sometimes it's really really hard ._.
im having trouble taking off the back plugs
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 14:26:24
I heared that someone sayed that the extending thing on the ZT mod can get rusty and it becomes hard to extend the zt mod...I will soon have a ZT mod, but until then I want to hear if theres a way not to get it rusty...
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Date: Tue, Mar 17 2009 00:42:50QUOTE (stickman @ Mar 16 2009, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I heared that someone sayed that the extending thing on the ZT mod can get rusty and it becomes hard to extend the zt mod...I will soon have a ZT mod, but until then I want to hear if theres a way not to get it rusty...
I have 3 and none of them have gotten rusty. I suppose none of mine have gotten wet at all, so that may explain it?
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Date: Thu, Mar 26 2009 01:45:53
i did method one.. and my zt is like crooked... it doesnt line up right... what did i do wrong?
im kinda scared to drop this lol how durable is it? -
Date: Thu, Mar 26 2009 11:07:42
Can this be done to the fake telescopics?
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Date: Thu, Mar 26 2009 11:53:44
nice looking mod! good job K4S
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Date: Thu, Mar 26 2009 12:38:31QUOTE (khaotic @ Mar 26 2009, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i did method one.. and my zt is like crooked... it doesnt line up right... what did i do wrong?
im kinda scared to drop this lol how durable is it?
I had the same problem. Its probably because your bic stic grip isn't lined up straight. Its durable if you make it right. -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 11:37:41QUOTE (K4S @ Jun 24 2008, 06:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Q: What colors do the Zebra Tele-scopic pens come in?
A: Black, Red, and Blue.
Shouldn't be corrected?
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Date: Tue, May 12 2009 02:30:52
the mod comes in more colers i saw it in pink and green
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Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 20:18:41
just a quick question, how do you get ink off?
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Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 20:38:22QUOTE (comicpen @ Jun 9 2009, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just a quick question, how do you get ink off?
you just pull on the inktube -
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 00:07:22
errr. This tutorial is pretty bad, but I people requested me to make one, so here it is:
ZT Mod Tutorial by Thomas -
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 01:19:33
How is k4s's tutorial bad in any way? And why do you need a vid tutorial
. It's just... take apart ZT, cut bic stic grip part, put grip on zt pen, screw the two zts together... -
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 01:37:07QUOTE (Shimo @ Jun 9 2009, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How is k4s's tutorial bad in any way? And why do you need a vid tutorial. It's just... take apart ZT, cut bic stic grip part, put grip on zt pen, screw the two zts together...
It's no better. K4s' tutorial is fine. I just figured I'd put this up in case someone wanted it. I got several requests for it. -
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 15:08:45
this is a realy cool pen.
for anyone that has used it, out of 5 what would you rate it?
btw what is a good alternative for the beifa grip? -
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 16:14:45QUOTE (xLAMx @ Mar 26 2009, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can this be done to the fake telescopics?
Yes.QUOTE (comicpen @ Jun 10 2009, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>this is a realy cool pen.
for anyone that has used it, out of 5 what would you rate it?
btw what is a good alternative for the beifa grip?
Sailors. but i've seen people put g2 grips on the ends. HGG grips too. -
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 22:16:42
I have Anyballs, and its cool, too imo
Have a limegreen one (Thx 2 Picora), it feels really heavy because it has much weight in its middle... But I like it.
Spinability = 7/10 -
Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 02:22:22
I put Signo 207 grips on the ends of mine, and an RSVP grip in the middle.
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Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 10:55:41
I think putting weights/tips on the end is overill. The stock weights on the end are heavy enough already.
I guess to make it look 'cooler', you could remove the weights at the end and add tips. Maybe G3 or something similar.
I've tried signo DX grip in the middle. Works great. perfectly Symmetrcal. -
Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 09:32:43
I just made one but I discovered that it rattles only when it is extended. And I saw some pens by Zebra(they work the same way as the ZT), but the central part(the part that is silverish) is the same colour as the body. Just wondering, can that be used to make a ZT?
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Date: Tue, Jun 23 2009 05:55:35
Is it possible to make the ZT Mod with this version of the extendable ZT?
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Date: Tue, Jun 23 2009 06:31:46QUOTE (Archermitch @ Jun 22 2009, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is it possible to make the ZT Mod with this version of the extendable ZT?
try it out. it might be shorter though. -
Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 01:55:20
nice pen i'm thinkin bout makin it but need to buy the pens and was looking online and saw that there's 'zebra telescopic brights' as well as the original. are they the same thing or should i just go with the original?
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Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 21:58:17QUOTE (8!G Z @ Oct 19 2009, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>nice pen i'm thinkin bout makin it but need to buy the pens and was looking online and saw that there's 'zebra telescopic brights' as well as the original. are they the same thing or should i just go with the original?
They're the exact same thing.
just in diff colors.
I wouldn't recommend this mod though, I made it and I hated it. -
Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 23:50:31QUOTE (Nation @ Oct 20 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They're the exact same thing.
just in diff colors.
I wouldn't recommend this mod though, I made it and I hated it.
well it's pretty cheap to make and i have a heavy pen that i like spinning but i can't mod it and my only mod is really light i don't like it much
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Date: Thu, Oct 29 2009 20:19:24
I HAVE FOUND A SOLUTION TO THE WOBBLING IN THE 2nd WAY TO MAKE IT!!!!!
But it wakes it hard to extend but it works!
all you have to do is put a piece of plastic that is just a little bit lighter than a manilla folder in the barrel (the extendable part)
and then put the part with the back plug in after it. It is hard to extend but it works! and you dont even need the brass thingimagigs. But dont extend it all the way! -
Date: Thu, Oct 29 2009 20:33:37QUOTE (8!G Z @ Oct 20 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well it's pretty cheap to make and i have a heavy pen that i like spinning but i can't mod it and my only mod is really light i don't like it much
Either way, don't make it.
it sucks. -
Date: Sat, Jan 9 2010 14:57:29
[quote name='K4S' date='Jun 24 2008, 12:39 AM' post='119758']
Welcome to the ZT tutorial!
The 15th tutorial by me, K4S
By popular demand I have whipped up this tutorial. I had no idea people would like this mod so much haha. ZT stands for Zebra Telescopic/Telescope.
It started with a random trip to walmart to pick up some rsvp when I saw a neat pen on the shelf. This pen was the Zebra Tele-Scopic pen. I was intrigued by its extending ability so I knew I had to try and make something out of this. After a minute of brainstorming I figured a grip aviaire type mod would be most ideal and so voila, the ZT mod was born.
(I assume no responsibility if you are careless and sustain eye damage or dismember your finger/hand from trying to follow my tutorial to make this pen mod. Remember, you can’t spin pens without fingers. )
Some basic stats/info:
-14.8.0-16.0cm in its small form (depends on which method you used to make it)
-22.0cm in it’s long form
-COG = COP
-Heavy (about the same weight as a dr.KT)
-double sided
-Total cost is about $9-10 (depending how much grip you use and what method you use to link the 2 sections)
-No rattling when spun if made correctly.
So let us begin…err, wait a sec, not so fast. I have posted 2 ways of making this mod. The first method was my original way to making the mod (still recommended). Credit to Thnikk for telling me that the entire pen could be disassembled by pulling it apart really hard. After knowing you could take the entire pen apart a second method was developed for making the ZT. Both methods have their own pros/cons (see below for summary of pros/cons)
METHOD 1 (<--click)
Pros
- More sturdy when extended in its long form (the ends have virtually no wobble)
- Easier to make (minimal disassembly of the pen…you do not have to get the brass inserts back in which is a pain in the ass)
- Extending mechanism remains “stiff†(disassembling the pen like method 2 will “loosen†the sliding mechanism; consult Q&A section)
**As an added benefit of the stiff sliding mechanism you can extend the pen to your desired length (eg. 20cm; the pen is not fully extended) and it should stay at that length even if you spin it.**
Cons
- About 1cm longer than method 2 in its small form
- Costs a little more (about $0.40 more because it required a Bic Stic Grip)
- Requires an extra pen (Bic Stic Grip)
METHOD 2 (<--click)
Pros
- About 1cm shorter than method 1 in its small form
- Cheaper to make than method 1
- Requires one less pen to make (good if you do not have access to Bic Stic Grip pens)
Cons
- Less sturdy when extended in its long form (the ends wobble a little bit; it’s not that bad)
- More difficult to make (reinserting the brass inserts is tough)
- Extending/sliding mechanism is loosened due to required disassembly of the pen (the pen may extend by itself if spun hard in its small form)
NOTE:
Spoiler:
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Short introduction video to the ZT pen mod:
^ Big thanks to TEK for the photoshop work
Review of the ZT pen mod by Guitrum:
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Trouble Shooting Questions:
Q: Which method of linking the bodies do you recommend?
A: I recommend my method (method 1) because taking apart the entire pen and then trying to put it back together correctly with both brass inserts is a pain in the ass. Also, the extending section does not wobble as much (method 1) when fully extended due to better internal support.
Q: What grip do you recommend using for the middle?
A: I used slickpen grips because I have lots but since they are somewhat difficult to come by you can probably use anything (eg. rsvp, hgg, etc). You can even do what TEK did and tape the middle and then wrap an outsert in the middle if you don’t want a middle grip but want a more aesthetical way of covering the gap between the 2 pens. OR you can use no middle grip and have the middle bare (as seen in the final product picture)
Q: What colors do the Zebra Tele-scopic pens come in?
A: Black, Red, and Blue.
Q: I tried method 2 and I just cannot put it back together with both brass inserts. Can I just use 1 brass insert since I cant get both in?
A: I told you it was hard…The extending mechanism will be quite loose if you only use 1 brass insert. In other words, you need both brass inserts. Good luck.
Q: I linked the pens with method 2 but now the parts which extend seem to wobble when the pen is in its long form
A: Yeah, unfortunately the plug you removed when you disassembled the entire pen gave the black extendable section some support (additional support given by the inktube linking the 2 pens together)….so when you removed the internal backplugs it caused the extendable sections to have less internal support. Therefore, they will wobble when fully extended.
Q: Okay, so if the extendable sections wobble cant I just do what the original grip aviaire tutorial did and shove a paintbrush (or any sort of stick) inside to stabilize it?
A: Unless your paintbrush/stick can extend along with the pen, this will not work. The only way to stabilize the mod is to follow method 1.
Q: Why does disassembling the pen (method 2) loosen the sliding mechanism?
A: Well, from what I can tell when Zebra manufactures the pen the silver tube with brass inserts fits in from the back before they glue on the plug which the silver backplug screws into. Therefore, the brass inserts are initially not tampered with so they allow for a stiffer sliding mechanism. When you disassemble the pen by pulling it apart, you squish the brass inserts down (since it’s not meant to be disassembled like that). So when the pen is put back together the brass inserts have been squished and the sliding mechanism is loosened. While you will never be able recover the original stiff sliding mechanism you can consult STEP 6 (METHOD 2) for a possibly remedy.
Q: Did you know that G3 inktubes fit perfectly inside the ZT’s internal plastic tube? Can that be used to link the bodies (similar to method 1)?
A: Yes, I did know they fit…that is how my prototype was built (the one seen in my youtube video). I realized once my prototype was complete that G3’s were more difficult to come by and more expensive so I looked for a way to link the ZT bodies in a similar way but use more common/cheaper pens, hence why I ended up using a Bic Stic Grip section to link the bodies.
Q: I followed STEP 5 (METHOD 1) but the ZT’s internal plastic tube still rattles, what’s wrong?
A: In order to prevent the internal plastic tube from rattling you need to have cut the bic stic grip section long enough such that it will press against the internal plastic tube and prevent it from moving (rattling). If the internal plastic tubing still rattles then the Bic Stic Grip section is not long enough.
Q: This extending pen mod is a great idea. Is there a way to do this with regular pen parts?
A: Yes there are a few ways of doing this with regular pens…right now the concepts of doing such a thing are still ideas in my head and they remain somewhat difficult.
Q: Wow, in your retractable HCMX (hgg ink) tutorial you said you’re next tutorial would be an MP rsvp MX. Liar!
A: Yes, well that was the initial plan but things change :>
Q: Does the pen extend if you spin it hard enough in its small form?
A: If you made the pen via method 1 then no, the pen should be quite solid and only extend when you pull the ends apart. If you followed method 2 then by disassembling and reassembling the pen you essentially “loosened†the sliding extendable section so it may extend if you spin it hard enough. Consult STEP 6 (METHOD 2) for a possibly remedy.
Q: Could I add metal tips on the end?
A: Yes, but the mod is already as heavy (if not slightly heavier) than a dr.KT! …adding metal tips on each end would be overkill.
Q: Where do you buy the pens for this mod?
A: I found the zebra tele-scopic pens at walmart but they are likely sold at staples as well and possibly other department stores. Ebay sells the pens as well
Q: You’ve used zebra brand pens in a lot of your tutorials...
A: Coincidence…they just happen to make useful pens
Q: Why do you sometimes have [IMG] tags and other times you just post a [url] to the picture?
A: I’m limited to 10 pictures per post T_T
Q: Any way to get this thing to write?
A: Hmm, I have an idea or two but they need some more development.
Q: So, on your original method (method 1), why cant the ZT close completely?
A: Since the Bic Stic Grip section is pressing against the internal plastic tubes (to prevent rattling), the ZT cannot close completely. It’s only about 1cm longer than method 2 is.
Q: I’ve seen people call this GAE as well as ZT, what gives?
A: I initially named this mod “grip aviaire evolved†or “grip aviaire extensionâ€, but since the acronym would have been GAE (sounds like ‘gay’ lol), I changed it to ZT which stands for Zebra Telescopic/Telescope.
Q: ZOMG, triple post!
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Q: I used method two and i don't really understand step six. I don't understand the elastic help u and how do u screw it on cuz my bic round grip that i cut is exactly measured as 2.4 cm but there is left over between the two zebras. I -
Date: Sat, Jan 9 2010 15:20:18
Why quoting a whole post, without saying something?
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Date: Sat, Jan 9 2010 15:32:00QUOTE (Oow @ Jan 9 2010, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why quoting a whole post, without saying something?
He added a question:
Q: I used method two and i don't really understand step six. I don't understand the elastic help u and how do u screw it on cuz my bic round grip that i cut is exactly measured as 2.4 cm but there is left over between the two zebras. I -
Date: Sat, Jan 9 2010 17:00:58QUOTE (Nation @ Jan 9 2010, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He added a question:
Q: I used method two and i don't really understand step six. I don't understand the elastic help u and how do u screw it on cuz my bic round grip that i cut is exactly measured as 2.4 cm but there is left over between the two zebras. I
He didn't need to quote a full post anyways. Thanks for clearing up. -
Date: Thu, Jan 21 2010 23:57:44
what are some substitute grips
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Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 02:46:42
you can really sub it with any grip but I recamend HGG or RSVP for middle grip
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Date: Wed, Feb 24 2010 12:15:43
where can you buy the end grips
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Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 23:02:24QUOTE (audi4444player @ Feb 24 2010, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>where can you buy the end grips
Well, Sailors are pretty similar, and those are sold on Penwish. I don't know where to get beifa's other than canada. D: -
Date: Wed, Mar 17 2010 02:29:15
Just a question, comparative to other mods, is the weight of the ZT average or heavier??
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Date: Wed, Mar 17 2010 03:35:38
It gives you the weight "-Heavy (about the same weight as a dr.KT)". You're new so maybe you dunno what a dr. kt is but it's a lot heavier than the mods you should spin when just starting out.
As for average or heavier than most mods, I'm not sure. You shouldn't try to compare the weight to ALL of the mods in the known world but rather, compare the weight of a mod to another well known mod like k4s has done here.
I don't suggest you start spinning a zt because a) it's heavy and
a lot of ppl don't like it's spinning effect. I just told you to try making one because you were looking for mods with all american parts. so yeah... -
Date: Thu, Mar 18 2010 02:49:24QUOTE (Nachoaddict @ Mar 16 2010, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It gives you the weight "-Heavy (about the same weight as a dr.KT)". You're new so maybe you dunno what a dr. kt is but it's a lot heavier than the mods you should spin when just starting out.
As for average or heavier than most mods, I'm not sure. You shouldn't try to compare the weight to ALL of the mods in the known world but rather, compare the weight of a mod to another well known mod like k4s has done here.
I don't suggest you start spinning a zt because a) it's heavy and a lot of ppl don't like it's spinning effect. I just told you to try making one because you were looking for mods with all american parts. so yeah...
Thanks! but what pen would u suggest fr a beginner? the ZT seems to be just a tad long for my fingers and heavy as well. i only have two other pens tht i scrapped together (two rather crappy bictorys) -
Date: Fri, May 7 2010 16:56:22
i make one and some how it keep make noise any idea to fix this?(i use method 1)
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Date: Fri, May 7 2010 17:23:06
Put more teflon or padding around the connector to make a tighter fit
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Date: Sat, May 8 2010 01:01:21
oh thx penwish. also what happen if i combine both method?
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Date: Sat, May 8 2010 01:04:38QUOTE (sarugio1 @ May 7 2010, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>oh thx penwish. also what happen if i combine both method?
how would you combine noth methods? unless you have one side with one method and the other side with the other, which would just be bad
