UPSB v3
Presentation / Blue Screen Pen Spinning
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 00:52:59
I was thinking that if one of you had access to blue screen technology that you could put on some thin blue gloves and try spinning on a desk or something and then you could make your hand disappear while the pen is spinning. Although there would be the problem that any time the pen goes behind you hand it would disappear as well, but that wouldn't be too bad with the right camera angle. Anyway, someone let me know if they have that kind of capability because that would make for an awesome video.
BTW, a fingerpass would probably look amazing. -
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 01:14:20
Don't blue screens only work if the screen is still? So you wouldn't be able to do it with blue gloves cuz your hand is moving.
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 01:17:04
Yeah, doing so really gives a nice effect. There was some spinner(Swedish one I think) that spun with black gloves on a black background. You didn't realize that he was leading the pen with the other hand until a little bit in to the movie when he started to do crazy stuff.
A blue screen would be even better I think, but kinda hard to get? Don't really know how the blue background works and how you make it.
Imagine bonkuras iSonics with that effect
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 01:22:35
Lolxz.
It's called chroma keying. Ill try it out, I have a sort of working green screen.... -
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 01:37:53
Ok, I just thought about it some more, and it would work if the background was a single color. That way you just use the blue screen technology to turn your hands the same color as the background.
Except you might as well not even use blue screen and just paint your gloves the right color instead. -
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 01:44:41
Sounds like a pretty good idea. Except that it is impossible not to get the hand covering the pen and some point of the spinning.
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 02:00:39
Yeah, most of the time the pen would have chunks missing.
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 04:27:35
Remember Kasra0984729048947109823's clip in webo's collab?
Sorry kasra, no one else to pick on. -
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 05:16:24
I did the color key thing once, without gloves though..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RINca2uYAjo -
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 06:47:02
Or think about how stupid it would look if you vanish the pen not your hand!
Pen spinning without the pen -
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 19:50:12QUOTE (Lorenzo @ Sep 19 2007, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Or think about how stupid it would look if you vanish the pen not your hand! Pen spinning without the pen
This would be great atcually , for tutorials watch he motion . position of the hand wiht out the pen in the way good idea 
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Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 19:56:08
Stack the effect and pick several blue tones for a better outcome.
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Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 13:04:01QUOTE (TayYH89 @ Sep 19 2007, 03:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sounds like a pretty good idea. Except that it is impossible not to get the hand covering the pen and some point of the spinning.
Triangle passes? Thumbspins? Halftaps? There's several tricks you can do with the pen visible at all times.
But as for hand covering the pen, it's not such a huge problem if you're using a pen without too much details.
A comssa would be perfect for the job, you can simply draw the keyed out parts of the pen back in without too much problem. -
Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 05:17:45
suggestion: you could do a multiple shot vid, in which you use blue screen with blue gloves for certain shots; then reapeat from where the last shot took off, but with only the blue screen. That way you could possibly get some vid of your hand disapearing, in situations where your hand would not move in-front of the pen.
eg: start with a side shot, w/o gloves, where you do a sonic rise. Then you do a bird's eye veiw, with the gloves, and make your hand disapear as it spins across your hand.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????QUOTE (Lorenzo @ Sep 19 2007, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Or think about how stupid it would look if you vanish the pen not your hand! Pen spinning without the pen
u could possible use a white backround(if ur hand is white
) and use a blue pens....so rather then making it disapear u can make an animated pen while ur pen spinning....would be the best pen mod ever lol....
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Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 03:02:19QUOTE (ShoeMan @ Sep 19 2007, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nice video bro
anyway I will reserch more of this type of stuff and see if I can get any ideas for a vid -
Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 08:57:59
In UPSB + PDS, how did they cut out Kam? Was he in front of a blue screen or what?
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Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 21:31:41
I've had experience with using blue/green screens. Used to make videos with all the high tech equipment in a Video Production class.
It's really simple to do, as long as the software you're using will do it. You can take out pretty much any color, and toggle the thresholds to only get rid of what you want to get rid of. It's really cool.
Check for tutorials with video software such as Mac's Final Cut, or Sony Vegas on filters that will do this.
Also, you can do this with clips where the color isn't stationary. -
Date: Sat, Dec 15 2007 00:47:29
Sounds very cool but I don't think any trick would work very well. Maybe Triangle passes but i can't think of anything else. Fingerpasses would not work.
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Date: Sat, Dec 15 2007 01:21:14QUOTE (Sfsr @ Dec 14 2007, 03:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>In UPSB + PDS, how did they cut out Kam? Was he in front of a blue screen or what?
kam spins on a clean black background, I know for a fact that De'Vo complained about the uncleanliness of certain spinners' background, and he digitally edited them to make it look better. And kam was the only one with a truly clean background, so he added that effect in. He remarked that it was not professional for videos to have a dirty background. -
Date: Sat, Dec 15 2007 17:10:12QUOTE (Zombo @ Dec 14 2007, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>kam spins on a clean black background, I know for a fact that De'Vo complained about the uncleanliness of certain spinners' background, and he digitally edited them to make it look better. And kam was the only one with a truly clean background, so he added that effect in. He remarked that it was not professional for videos to have a dirty background.
Ya I use a black BG aswell so if I have a black sleeve I can have the floating hand in the psychedelic BG thing.. it's sorta a catch 22 though, if you use a black BG you might vanish parts of your hand because the hand can cast a shadow on itself, but with green/blue screen, you won't be able to vanish the sleeve, b/c honestly who wears long sleeved blue/green shirts? and that exac type of blue/green and even then the shadows would apear.. so if you want to have a floating hand syndrome I'd go with black bg and sleeve, and I'd try to adjust the lighting so I there wont be any shadows on my hand.. I also agree btw on the notion that a messy BG is just not professional, and generally gives an amateur look.. it doesnt have to be a smooth sheet of something but just pay some attention to the bg and you'll be fine,, -
Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 20:12:51
I'm going to try out some green screen spinning during the holidays, but I really don't know how much use it'll be. I mean, what should I have as background instead? I'll try it out with some space scenes from EVE: Online, but other then that I dunno...