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Serious Discussion / Immigration/Foreigners

  1. Xero
    Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 07:18:31


    No, I did not make this image.


    Should immigration be controlled?
    Should the government have the right to pass laws that restrict certain populations based on location or ethnicity?
    America, for one, has done it before, but was it justified?
    Should immigration be stopped in countries?

    What is your opinion?
    Please feel free to discuss other questions than the ones proposed.

  2. Gunblakes
    Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 11:08:19

    Dora the Explorer can speak English, as far as I know.

    I guess this pretty much relies on the culture of the country, whether the society is ready to assimilate foreigners. Governmental policies are not a miracle bullet for racial prejudices and xenophobic stereotypical mindsets.

  3. Mats
    Date: Fri, Jul 11 2008 13:22:52

    There is a limit on how many people can live in a country.

    This country has been streched quite a lot in the past couple of years with millions of people immigrating here in that period. There has to be a limit and controls otherwise a country such as the UK would see its population soar and chaos insue. People should not be limited on their location or ethnicity, but on what positives they can actually bring to the country.

  4. Tialys
    Date: Mon, Jul 14 2008 22:39:06

    Immigration should be allowed but controlled. A cap on immigration that is proportional to the population of the emigrant's country should be set every year.
    The government should not have the right to pass laws that limit a certain ethnic or cultural group. Equal opportunity.
    Yes, countries have unfairly restricted immigration before. Immigration taxes were not justified, but I think the points system could work if implemented properly. You don't want criminals or homeless people entering your country. You would want people who can contribute to economy. But Canada, for example, also provides asylum for refugees, those suffering religious persecution, etc.

    As for learning English (or the main language of any country), it is a self-evident truth. If you don't learn the country's primary language, you won't survive on your own. I'm not sure about other countries, but in US/Canada, I feel the level of English of immigrants should be comprehensible at minimum. After all, you can't expect them to speak/write high-level English when native speakers have trouble with the language already.

  5. Squishy
    Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 06:43:41

    I'm with Tialys.

    While equal opportunity is important, monitoring how many and what kind of people is just as important.

    I work as a customer service associate, and I see people who do not understand even a word I say.

    "Would you like to return the item?"

    "I don't speak English."

    "Do you want to bring it back?"

    And they stare at you with this haze in their eyes.

    It is very important that immigrants understand everyday and basic native language. If I were to move to Japan (this task is very difficult), I'd make damn sure I understand Japanese. Of course, I would never be as fluent as a native speaker - but I can get damn close with practice.