UPSB v3
Major Collaborations / UPSB Official Collab - DEAD
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 21:54:59
STANDBY
For our first collab, we decided to do something special. It will be a continuation of the (failed) project Paired Collab on UCPSB (Click for old thread)
Motivation:
Here's our reasons for doing such collab:- People from many communities are "reunited" together under UPSB. Now of course people may pair up with their friends, but some won't. It's a good opportunity to mingle.
- More people can participate while keeping a fair number of videos.
- Videos produced will probably be of better quality. We set a filter which does not work by number but by quality (i.e: we don't care how many videos we put in the collab, but they must all be good). We think that for an UPSB official collab we must set some fairly high standards.
- Some of the veterans who haven't been spinning for a while won't have the skills up to par yet. This will allow them to participate and spread their cool ideas anyway.
- It seems to me that the new UPSB should be a combination of innovative ideas the old UPSB had, plus the technical abilities of modern spinners. This bring both worlds together.
So what I think is if you really want to enjoy this collab, you should look to pair off with someone who you think is interesting, but that you are not necessarily familiar with.
Summary:
Here's a summary of how it works (complete info can be found in the UCPSB thread):- We have two roles: performer and designer. The performer is the one filming the video. The designer's task is to create/improve the combo.
- That means, the performer should focus on having good technical skills, filming camera and environment, while the designer can focus on making a interesting combo with unique ideas.Handy Tips ->This does not mean the performer should not give his input on the combo, s/he can still design as well.
- Sometimes, when you are making your combo alone, you might miss something. Being in a pair allows you to give feedback to each other and reach a final product where both of you will be satisfied with.
- This is not a short-term project. You won't be able to wing it by filming a video at the last minute. You actually need to communicate with each other over several weeks to reach a polished product.
- To personally make sure every pair is going well, I demand every pair to give me a short summary report of their progress every week. This report could be only one paragraph or so, explaining how the project is shaping up.
Editing:
Editing will be a collaborative work for this project too! We will employ a small team of editors to work on the collab. That way, more ideas will be on the table and the result will be more polished. At the same time, we can't have too many editors otherwise it will be too difficult to work efficiently.
Furthermore, we assign a lead editor to take charge of the project. This person is neXus. He will be in charge to motivate his team to create a good collab and generate discussion. It's also possible that the final product is solely edited by one person only, and not split into parts.Handy Tips ->This mean we not only need video editors, but also experts in other fields of graphism.
Sign-up for spinning:- Reply in this thread and clearly state that you are in (i.e: /in). Indicate the role you want ("Performer" / "Designer"). If you don't mind doing either, say "Any".
- If you know who you will be paired with, write the person's name in your post as well. That other person must also reply to this thread to confirm.
- If you don't have a partner, we will match you up with somebody else. We'll build a list of designers and another list of performers and we will match people together. Of course, if you find somebody to pair up later, please tell us.Handy Tips ->It's better if you pair up by yourselves rather than rely on us doing it for you. You could post a message that you're looking for a partner and then try to talk to other people about it.Sign-up for editing:
- If you have good graphical / video editing skills, sign-up directly by PMing neXus. Make sure you have a good portfolio to present. Spots are limited.
SIGNUPS: FRIDAY 28 SEPTEMBER 2007. MAKE SURE YOU ARE PAIRED.
After the signups, we will set a deadline for videos, which will be one month after that week. In order words, the video deadline will probably be the last week of October. Late sign-ups will be available after the initial week.
Here's a recommended schedule:
Week 1: Brainstorm / Initial Combo Draft
Week 2: Improving on the combo / Final draft
Week 3: Practice the combo, first filming drafts
Week 4: Final touches, final video.
Name for the collab and song info:
Not sure what the name is yet, but it will have to contain the word soul in it. The idea is that the soul, the essence of UPSB, has "never died", even when its body (the physical board) has disappeared. It speaks of perseverance and refusing to give up. UPSBv3 went through many obstacles and it was long spectulated to never happen, but yet it refused to give up and has re-appeared. This is the idea that must be reflected in the name.
EDIT: Some suggestions: Enduring Soul, Undying Soul, (UPSB) Never Die...
The song goes with this idea, it's "Hon -Soul-" (can't write korean characters for some reason) by Epik High. It's a great song that is somewhat dark, yet its lyrics are very positive and reflect the ideas above of persistence and endurance. It's mostly in Korean and it's pretty catchy. It's also very different from the usual metal/techno used in collabs.
http://www.mediafire.com/?f91ggwj0jnyHandy Tips ->I suggest you think about the song and listen to it while practicing to get into the mood and spin accordingly. I'm not asking for a synchronized combo though.
PS: If you want to resume your work from the previous paired collab, it's fine. Just sign up as the old pair. BTW, I'm pairing back with Eriror.
List of pairings
--- Sign ups are now CLOSED ---
You can still sign up "late", but you need a really good reason to convince me.
Video deadlines:
Sunday, November 4th.
Video limits:
20 seconds. If you need more, request it.
Submit to: kaiwenzhang AT gmail DOT com. Don't give me putfile/youtube. Give me an attachment or a downloadable rapidshare/megaupload/etc...
I DEMAND a written report EVERY WEEK on your current progress. It could be a whole paragraph or just 2 lines, but MAKE SURE one person in your group sends me a PM every time. It can be any day, but at least once a week. Even if you didn't accomplish anything, send me a PM anyway.
PROGRESS REPORTDate: Wed, Sep 19 2007 22:15:32/in Designer
This sounds pretty cool.Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 22:19:00Hmmm, I'm interested but I don't know what to be
So I'll Say /Any
And I'm seeking for a partner =/Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 22:20:29I think just 'Phoenix' would be best to describe the collab. UPSB is like a phoenix, once great, once killed, and now once risen. 'Phoenix Rising' just sounds a bit, off imo.
*Goes to try and find a partner in crime*Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 22:27:37/in designer
partner: strat1227
i'll have to ask him, but i'm almost certain we'll do it together.Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 22:48:54/in Designer
pumped!Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 22:52:27/in performer
thisll be cool.
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 23:02:28/in performer
Partner: Kaoru
(Sorry for pming you zombo
)Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 23:07:20im not adding the already formed pairs to the list in the other sticky until the other person confirms it.
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 23:23:46/in for any
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 23:56:58Hmm, perhaps something to do with UCPSB in the title is a bit more appropriate?
Oh and
SA, wanna partner up?i I'll be performer.Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 00:01:11QUOTE (toast @ Sep 19 2007, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hmm, perhaps something to do with UCPSB in the title is a bit more appropriate?
Oh and
SA, wanna partner up?i I'll be performer.
give a concrete example?Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 00:03:31Well maybe not actually IN the title, but somewhere in the credits, introduction, or something. Thing is, i am pretty sure there are going to be more ex UCPSB members then there are going to be ex UPSBv2 members in this collab, so it just seems appropriate.
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 00:08:41ah, I dont know about that. That's editing, not my job. You can still post suggesstions or even join the editing team if you want.
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 00:23:45/in Performer =D
Need a partner though.Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 00:35:40/in partner = Huroni
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 00:37:14QUOTE (DAISUKE!!!!! @ Sep 19 2007, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>/in partner = Huroni
you're kaoru?
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 00:58:18Haha yeah i am
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 01:29:18/in performer. i need a partner though
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 01:42:45QUOTE (gizzardsmack @ Sep 19 2007, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>/in designer
partner: strat1227
i'll have to ask him, but i'm almost certain we'll do it together.
sure.Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 01:47:55we have 7 unpaired spinners, i suggest you try to contact each other.
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 02:34:04Me and Toast are partnering.
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 03:54:17Lolz, totally /in designer.
Someone who wants to parterer up, PM me.
-ZigoDate: Thu, Sep 20 2007 05:06:47I'm in but searching for a partner.
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 05:14:20what kind are you? same question to mats.
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 20:26:25Yupp yupp, me and Sfsr are partners. Im designing
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 20:33:09..and I'm performing ^^
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 20:44:32I'm in for performer
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 22:37:02list updated except for mats cuz I have no idea what he's doing.
we have 3 unpaired designers, 4 unpaired performers, and 2 "any". Match together!Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 00:11:02Put me in performers please.
ME AND EBURT ARE GOING TO DO THIS, I AM THE PERFORMER.Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 02:19:24Ah, I know I said I wasn't gonna do this Zombo, but I can't resist the chance to work with bojo
/fanboyism
yeah, I'm gonna be designer with him.Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 02:26:19interesting pair, not sure what is gonna come out of it lol
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 02:57:17listen to the song for the collab:
http://www.mediafire.com/?f91ggwj0jny
I suggest you try and feel the mood of the song when practicing your combo.
It fits our ideas / themes perfectly.
Updated first post: look at the name section.Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 07:40:31Is someone wanting to do an impossible combo for me?
would like to be in performers...Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 09:21:15I want be in . I dont understand designer . I want Spin^^
edit:
performer(no partner)Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 10:57:10
/in performerDate: Fri, Sep 21 2007 11:06:01Designer
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 11:22:40new pair:
Ceedgee(designer) / FratleymメFS (performer)Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 12:22:49Now THERE'S an awesome pair =D
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 13:08:32updated
we now have unpaired 5 performers, 5 designers, 2 any.
need confirmation on ceedgeeDate: Fri, Sep 21 2007 13:33:19sorry i made a mistake, its 4 designers, 6 performers, 2 any.
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 15:43:52QUOTE (Zombo @ Sep 21 2007, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>need confirmation on ceedgee
I'm in as designer for Fratleym =)Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 15:53:46in performer
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 16:15:06i dun understand something,performer is the person that psing and the designer is the one who record the video and edit it?
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 16:39:24QUOTE (song @ Sep 21 2007, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i dun understand something,performer is the person that psing and the designer is the one who record the video and edit it?
no performer is the one psing, recording.
designer is the one who creates the combo for the performer to spin.
we have an editing team.Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 18:48:08With Zombo all is difficult XD
I subcribe for be performer
Thundercrash is my partner designerDate: Fri, Sep 21 2007 19:19:10AHH i understand now! i am performer^^ search partner
I can do some Tricks^^Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 19:42:19/in as ANY
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 19:44:10who wants me my designer?
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 20:05:10hmm k we have a lot of performers now, 4 designers, 8 performers, 3 any.
so... you gusy should try and talk to others in the list. http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=846
PM them, write in their profile... it's better than just waiting.Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 21:52:38QUOTE (Zombo @ Sep 20 2007, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>listen to the song for the collab:
http://www.mediafire.com/?f91ggwj0jny
I suggest you try and feel the mood of the song when practicing your combo.
It fits our ideas / themes perfectly.
Updated first post: look at the name section.
dead for meDate: Sat, Sep 22 2007 10:11:05Yoah and I have teamed up
Yoah - performer
Mats - designerDate: Sat, Sep 22 2007 10:13:27QUOTE (Mats @ Sep 22 2007, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yoah and I have teamed up
Yoah - performer
Mats - designer
ConfirmedDate: Sat, Sep 22 2007 11:46:34I paired up with Dongza. I hope it'll be fun
Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 12:23:37Confirmed
Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 13:22:35/in performer
I'm waiting for confirmation.
Anyone.
performer:mr_showtimez
designer: ???Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 13:33:13QUOTE (toast @ Sep 21 2007, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dead for me
works for me...Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 13:40:51QUOTE (Zombo @ Sep 22 2007, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>works for me...
Hmm...yea it works for me now too...
I guess mediafire has downtimes on some of its media.Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 16:06:00Me and wlid in a team
Hamor - Performer
Wlid - DesignerDate: Sat, Sep 22 2007 18:43:07/IN YO!
I wanna tag up with Element for this one.
performer-Element
designer-Webo SplizzashDate: Sat, Sep 22 2007 18:54:25/in
LOL
he posted before i got to it.
yea ill team with webo.Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 08:54:28/in as designer
It's good because people without cameras will able to participate.
I'm looking for a partner as well.Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 09:51:32I got my team.
performer: mr_showtimez(mez)
designer: PearlDate: Sun, Sep 23 2007 15:34:51Did I imagine this or was there a list with name suggestions (Like Phoenix, UPSB: Reborn and similliar things) before? Also, I don't really like the song. The lyrics take up too much space, it's too "rappy" and kind of.. I dunno :/ It'll work though, and the more I listen to it the more I'm starting to like it.
Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 15:47:17hmm, maybe something to do with the number 2 in the song would be nice.
Lets do something creative and thoughtful, because look
2 people per combo
2 boards come together (UCPSB, UPSB)
just a thought ;PDate: Sun, Sep 23 2007 16:03:56i would just like to suggest that in honor of bonkura you put a short clip of his into the collab around the part were the lyrics say "I will never die"
Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 16:28:17I think a small comment at the end of the video stating something like
This video is dedicated to Bonkura, a friend to us all who passed away in September 13th of 2007.
R.I.P. 1985 - 2007Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 01:05:56QUOTE (Sfsr @ Sep 23 2007, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did I imagine this or was there a list with name suggestions (Like Phoenix, UPSB: Reborn and similliar things) before? Also, I don't really like the song. The lyrics take up too much space, it's too "rappy" and kind of.. I dunno :/ It'll work though, and the more I listen to it the more I'm starting to like it.
Yes, I removed it. The reason is, they don't fit with the song. Right now I'm leaning heavily towards "Undying Soul". I made that suggestion a few days ago and I think it's now more appropriate than ever.
Yes it's hip-hop, but then I don't think it will detract from the pen spinning. This is because it's only audio, so there's no interference with the videos, and it's in korean so most ppl won't understand it anyway lol so it's gonna stay in the back of their head only (they can't "actively" understand it).QUOTE (toast @ Sep 23 2007, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm, maybe something to do with the number 2 in the song would be nice.
Lets do something creative and thoughtful, because look
2 people per combo
2 boards come together (UCPSB, UPSB)
just a thought ;P
Uhh where are you hearing number 2 in the song? And way more than 2 communities are invovled in UPSB.QUOTE (Ivan @ Sep 23 2007, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i would just like to suggest that in honor of bonkura you put a short clip of his into the collab around the part were the lyrics say "I will never die"QUOTE (toast @ Sep 23 2007, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think a small comment at the end of the video stating something likeThis video is dedicated to Bonkura, a friend to us all who passed away in September 13th of 2007.
R.I.P. 1985 - 2007
That's at the discretion of the editing team. Yes I've already requested such dedication to be done.
I want to make things clear however. This is NOT a "Tribute to Bonkura" collab, this is "UPSB Official Collab". The theme is NOT bonkura. Don't you all go make combos based on bonkura, copying his style and pen. That's not the point. We will mention bonkura but we won't spend half the time showing his videos or whatever. This is not a sign of disrespect, it's just not the right collab for this. Just make a video for the Return of UPSB, that is all.Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 01:51:09QUOTE (mez @ Sep 23 2007, 05:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I got my team.
performer: mr_showtimez(mez)
designer: Pearl
ConfirmedDate: Mon, Sep 24 2007 12:22:30TNC - Performer
Footdude - DesignerDate: Mon, Sep 24 2007 18:59:32/in performer.
you can partner me up with anyone.
maybe asian tim.
haha.Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 23:09:56I have 9 performers and 5 designers... this is gonna be impossible for me to match, so I suggest you find your pairs yourselves.
Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 07:32:01QUOTE (Zombo @ Sep 25 2007, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have 9 performers and 5 designers... this is gonna be impossible for me to match, so I suggest you find your pairs yourselves.
On that note, me and Steen-J are together. I'll pm him to make sure he confirms.Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 10:19:15Yes im with tim^^ i dont understand what to do now but i am with tim^^
Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 12:41:25Jamie Enns and KaL
w00tDate: Tue, Sep 25 2007 13:41:46QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Sep 25 2007, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Jamie Enns and KaL
w00t
Confirmed..Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 14:04:53ok
sign up deadline:
THIS FRIDAY, 28th September
I won't match people because there's too many designers, so if you're not paired by that time, you're out of luck.
Video Time Limit: 20 seconds. You can request for more but you need a damn good reason.Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 18:55:48Where we send us videos ?
Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 23:25:26kaiwenzhang AT gmail dot com.
Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 01:32:52footdude has dropped out ....so i will pair up with Rockstar....
i will be performer....
wait for his confirmDate: Wed, Sep 26 2007 02:12:03==Unpaired spinners==
Zigosity
Vicgotgame
Eleventh Seal
kasra12321
ellusion
D Roll
Flip
BTW if you're gonna drop out, better to drop out NOW than 1 day before the video deadline. Don't screw your partner over, if you can't make it, just say so early.Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 11:47:25Change of plans.
rockstar: performer
T_N_C: designer.
confirmed.Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 19:58:15/in performer
partner: SpiritDate: Wed, Sep 26 2007 19:58:43/in designer
partner : romain_mgDate: Wed, Sep 26 2007 20:04:25RandomNewb - Designer
zblader - PerformerDate: Wed, Sep 26 2007 20:04:34ok you got two more days (to sign up)
Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 21:02:02Vicgotgame and I have paired up.
Flip - Designer
Vicgotgame - PerformerDate: Thu, Sep 27 2007 23:36:22QUOTE (Flip @ Sep 27 2007, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Vicgotgame and I have paired up.
Flip - Designer
Vicgotgame - Performer
i somehow knew this pair was going to happen...lol
anyway Tomorrow is the last day!
5 unpaired spinners left.Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 01:16:45/in
Performer: Onyx
Designer: Rekkuuzan
He should confirm sometime later tonight.Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 01:37:12Performer: D roll
Designer: TEKKEN KingDate: Fri, Sep 28 2007 03:27:48QUOTE (Rekkuuzan @ Sep 27 2007, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>/in
Performer: Onyx
Designer: Rekkuuzan
He should confirm sometime later tonight.
Confirmed
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 02:57:06QUOTE (Flip @ Sep 27 2007, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Vicgotgame and I have paired up.
Flip - Designer
Vicgotgame - Performer
confirmedDate: Sat, Sep 29 2007 04:23:18--- Sign ups are now CLOSED ---
You can still sign up "late", but you need a really good reason to convince me.
Video deadlines:
Sunday, October 28th.
Video limits:
20 seconds. If you need more, request it.
Submit to: kaiwenzhang AT gmail DOT com. Don't give me putfile/youtube. Give me an attachment or a downloadable rapidshare/megaupload/etc...
I DEMAND a written report EVERY WEEK on your current progress. It could be a whole paragraph or just 2 lines, but MAKE SURE one person in your group sends me a PM every time. It can be any day, but at least once a week. Even if you didn't accomplish anything, send me a PM anyway.Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 00:04:59I still need editing guys
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 03:35:28You can ask Ice-H! he is a great editor!
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 07:07:03I will and i will also contact Sfsr as soon as i catch them on MSN.
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 15:38:52I was planning on asking you if I could join the editing team, I just haven't had time :) So yeah, I'm on ^^ I haven't tried out Vegas much though, so I probably won't be of much technical help, but I can contribute with ideas atleast ^^
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 07:48:39Okay we got Sfsr on board and i'm waiting for an answer by Ice-H.
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 08:19:09paired with kasra12321..
PERFORMER>>kasra12321
DESIGNER>>MEDate: Tue, Oct 2 2007 12:16:34Got Ice-H!
Can we get like a hidden forum to talk Zombo?Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 12:54:28create a new blog, set it to private, add your team as editors.
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 17:30:20hey guys WAKE UP!!!. I only received two Progress reports so far!!! 2/20+!!!
You guys need to be sending those reports soon to report on your first week of work.
It doesn't matter if you didn't do anything! But you need to send me a PM to tell me that, otherwise it just shows you don't care about the collab.
Go!!Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 09:50:53QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 3 2007, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey guys WAKE UP!!!. I only received two Progress reports so far!!! 2/20+!!!
You guys need to be sending those reports soon to report on your first week of work.
It doesn't matter if you didn't do anything! But you need to send me a PM to tell me that, otherwise it just shows you don't care about the collab.
Go!!
It would probably be better if you had a date for the end of each week, for when it had to be in by. I didn't think it had to be in by today. I'll send mine now.Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 02:25:46well the deadline isn't today, but I still want reports ASAP, if you count one week then the deadline would be FRIDAY.well the deadline isn't today, but I still want reports ASAP, if you count one week then the deadline would be FRIDAY.
Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 02:38:35QUOTE (neXus @ Oct 2 2007, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay we got Sfsr on board and i'm waiting for an answer by Ice-H.
Still no reply from you, Nexus....Date: Fri, Oct 5 2007 01:25:06I've now received 8 reports, youo have till tomrrow to send one.
My goal is that by knowing roughly what everybody is doing, I can make sure that everybody's combo is really unique and memorable, so that everybody will feel special and have smething different to show.
So please, designers, think a bit deeper and find unique ideas!Date: Fri, Oct 5 2007 03:39:44isn't Kam gonna take part in this??
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 20:07:54PROGRESS REPORT
Where's the rest?
you guys need to do better than that... It's important for me to know what's going in every pair to make sure everybody is on the right track.Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 19:58:26damn already saw this threa dnow. hm too late...!
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 22:25:164 teams haven't sent me a report:
Hamor & wlid
Lordbojo & Eburt
Vicgotgame & Flip
zblader & RandomNewb
GO GO GO!Date: Thu, Oct 11 2007 00:53:39myself and webo declare ourselves
/OUT.
multiple academic terms coming up for us.
no time...
Date: Thu, Oct 11 2007 02:42:17so it seems only 1 team hasnt sent their report for week 1.
That team is zblader and RandomNewb
Other teams need to send report for WEEK 2 soon...Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 01:22:08QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 7 2007, 04:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>PROGRESS REPORT
Where's the rest?
you guys need to do better than that... It's important for me to know what's going in every pair to make sure everybody is on the right track.
Yeah! Steen-J and Tim FTW!!! I was just on holiday and I got back. Now I gotta come up with some more ideas.Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 01:59:34hmm i've only receive 5 reports this week, so I'm not even gonna bother pushing or forcing you guys to send one anymore... just do it if you want to or need my help... it's better for me though.
Anyway this is the end of the week 2, so you have 2 weeks left.
By now, you should pretty have finished your combo breakdown and started practicing and filming, so that you cn improve upon it further.Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 05:12:26Do you mean you've only received 5 reports for week 3. Cause a lot of people want to get more done before they send they're progress report. I'll send week threes on wednesday or thusday.
Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 06:51:44I think the deadline should be extended IMO. Me and Rekkuuzan were really busy on week 2 and did have anything creative in our breakdown hopefully week 3 will be better for me and Rekkuuzan to plan a combo and try filming it.
Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 13:57:00QUOTE (Tim @ Oct 15 2007, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do you mean you've only received 5 reports for week 3. Cause a lot of people want to get more done before they send they're progress report. I'll send week threes on wednesday or thusday.
uhh no, week 2. You send a report for the week that ended.QUOTE (Onyx-o7 @ Oct 15 2007, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think the deadline should be extended IMO. Me and Rekkuuzan were really busy on week 2 and did have anything creative in our breakdown hopefully week 3 will be better for me and Rekkuuzan to plan a combo and try filming it.
Maybe, that's why people need to send reports. If a lot of people are struggling, then an extension is needed.Date: Tue, Oct 16 2007 08:09:18maybe a lot of people haven't done much. So they don't want to send a report because of it. It would be a big pity if this collab ended up failing, because it hasn't been done before and it's UPSB3'S FIRST COLLAB!!!. Steen-J and I are starting to film now. I hope that all the other pairs are doing well.
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 17:57:13The Combo ist to difficult for me :-S pray for me
Will this video be on Superhandz.com? this is a official upsb collab....Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 21:27:07maybe, not sure, I guess i'll have to ask kam.
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 02:57:52How long do you think it will take to edit the collab? and for it to be released?
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 04:00:37hmm I havent contacted nexus in a while, but I'm not putting any pressure on him. I'd rather wait to see a polished product and a rushed one
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 01:43:02ok, you got 1 week left, I hope I receive all the videos at the end of next week!
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 14:18:41Can't we get daftsystem or someone for the editing team too?
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 14:21:05I have my clip! I try again... better...
Date: Tue, Oct 23 2007 09:09:06QUOTE (Steen-J @ Oct 22 2007, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have my clip! I try again... better...
QFT
We have our combo, we are just trying to see if we can get a better one before the deadline.Date: Wed, Oct 24 2007 17:00:01remember when you turn in your video, send it to kaiwenzhang at gmail dot com as an attachment OR send it as a megaupload/rapidshare/mediafire/SHAREBEE (something that I can download).
Date: Fri, Oct 26 2007 13:03:49updated list with received videos, you have 3 days left!
Date: Sat, Oct 27 2007 03:23:30I didn't think that we had to send this weeks progress report because we had already sent the combo, is that alright?
Also, you may want to underline the people that have sent, because of the colours, the bold names aren't really that noticeable.
EDIT: thanks Zombo, looks much better now.Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 12:52:10Zombo how many Clips do you have?
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 13:53:52QUOTE (Steen-J @ Oct 28 2007, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Zombo how many Clips do you have?
3
but I'm mostly likely giving an extension because nexus is unreachable.Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 14:41:50Sorry for beeing uh not here for so long. Got a lot of stress with life, authorities and all that. My interest in PenSpinning is almost completly lost but i'll still edit the collab
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 07:17:54@Zombo, what about yours and Eriror's, wouldn't that make it five now, or haven't you guys done it
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 14:11:43alright, well I don't know what's going on with the other teams.
I received 4 videos, wow. That's not even enough to make a collab if I accept them all.
Deadline extension to Sunday, November 4th.
Wake up guys, that's less than 20% turn-in rate, pathetic.
If you guys can't bother submitting a video for the official collab, then I'm not gonna bother organizing any in the future.Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 14:59:49Go GO GO GO GO!!!
why have you no Clips!!!
Send !
I want the CollabDate: Mon, Oct 29 2007 19:11:57QUOTE (Tim @ Oct 29 2007, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Zombo, what about yours and Eriror's, wouldn't that make it five now, or haven't you guys done it
I'm training, training, training, having stuff in life, training more, filming constantly, I just haven't been able to get it on film once. Not once. My pen broke yesterday evening during filming, it was fixed this evening, I've been filming again, I still can't get it. So yes, I'm busy all the time, it's basically the thing I'm doing when I have free time.
I'm sorry Zombo, I really hope I can get it before Sunday. I really didn't want to extend the deadline.Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 19:38:45I think the combo I wrote is a bit too hard for Eriror
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 19:41:56Maybe you just wrote down tricks and linkages I'm not using a lot [wow, the surprise]. Maybe you expect a lot from me.
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 19:52:30LOL
Maybe you guys should have just done a regular collab. Not all this fancy shmancy planning out. Or else someone is gonna organize an unofficial collab...Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 20:58:14nah, I'd rather have a failed extraordinary collab rather than a meaningless normal collab. There's no point in making a new collab if it's more of the same.
BTW, where's you and zblader's video?Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 08:00:37I thought that Zombo would make a really hard combo for you, that's why you guys went together, to make an awesome combo, I have no problem with that though
I kinda made some fairly hard linkages for Steen-J to do, but he really did try and it was only when he really couldn't get it when we decided to replace some of the tricks. It was really great to work with him.
Pity that not many videos are in though. Very hard to make something like this work. Is this why the old one was cancelled?Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 14:03:55the old one was canceled simply cuz eriror was injured...
Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 17:03:52Do anyone know the song that will be in the collab ? =/
Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 18:08:31QUOTE (Pearl @ Oct 30 2007, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do anyone know the song that will be in the collab ? =/
it's like... written in the first post for one month alrdy?Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 19:54:16i wish i can help but i am still not good at penspinning goodluck though hope u get the vids in cause i want to see the colab =)
Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 22:02:00QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 30 2007, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it's like... written in the first post for one month alrdy?
Ouan
J'pensais que c'était seulement une suggestion =)Date: Tue, Oct 30 2007 23:40:06lazy and zblader couldnt do my combos and she's busy... you guys take too long anyway... why do you have to plan so much.. set a strict deadline, 1 week. this way people dont improve over like the 5-year deadline for the collab, hassle them during that week, if they don't send the clip in time they're not in. collab url link. done.
Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 00:32:01QUOTE (RandomNewb @ Oct 30 2007, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lazy and zblader couldnt do my combos and she's busy... you guys take too long anyway... why do you have to plan so much.. set a strict deadline, 1 week. this way people dont improve over like the 5-year deadline for the collab, hassle them during that week, if they don't send the clip in time they're not in. collab url link. done.
sorry but that sounds very half-assed and I don't do half-assed jobs for official collabs.
do it right or don't do it at all :/
if you do a quicky botched job that takes one week, then it holds no significance to me.
BTW, even if I did that, I'm 99% sure I wouldn't get enough quality videos anyway. In one week, anyway. What's wrong with doing things differently which set it apart from a casual collab?
Also, the only UPSB collab up to date, which is the UPSB+PDS, wasn't a "quickie". It took about 3-4 months. So sorry but I disagree that short-term projects are better than long-term ones.Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 01:06:52You guys just want another average collab... UPSB official collabs should be something special, and I, like Zombo, would rather see a project like this be tried and fail, than UPSB official collabs always be the same average kind of collabs that you or I could easily organise ourselves.
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 22:08:08Shit deadline tommorow, ok i will give that tommorow
Sorry for use all the time
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 04:17:11final day!!!
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 15:59:48I gave my video
(on this adress : kaiwenzhang at gmail dot com is right ? I remplace the at and the dot by @ and .)Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 00:47:44yep, I received two more videos today, I now have 7.
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 01:20:42Seven MASSIVE vids or seven OKAY vids =/ ?
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 09:07:40Okay, lets think a combo is 15 seconds long, that makes 105 seconds aka 1 Minute 45 seconds, the song is 4:32. How are we supposed to fill this, it'll be more stuff than spinning. Even if all combos were 20 secs. there's still abit over 2 minutes space.
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 09:31:46We can't fill it. Are we classifying this collab as failed? It passed the duedate by 1 week. I don't think there's much that can happen now.
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 10:55:07Well I know that mine's just... okay, so if not the others are MASSIVE and REALLY long, I doubt this is worth it :/
I don't understand though... This is an OFFICIAL UPSB collab, why so few sign ups and submissions?Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 11:43:41Lets make e short Collab!
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 11:52:40QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 5 2007, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This is an OFFICIAL UPSB collab, why so few sign ups and submissions?
for me, it was examination period during the sign-up time, and even if i could sign up and do a great combo, i would not have been able to submit the weekly reports and stuff.
i doubt i'm up to standard for an official collab anyway.Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 12:49:14Hah, if you're not up to standard for an official collab, then what am I and many others? All those oldies that are supposed to be in big official collabs aren't here anymore, it's up to the "new stars" to shine.
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 14:34:28right, 7 videos are not enough.
I am putting this collab on standby until I figure out what to do with those videos. Maybe we will make a mini-collab out of it with a new song and such and not present it as THE UPSB collab.
I am disappointed in the outcome but I did learn a few things, which RandomNewb explicitly pointed out earlier, and which Tialys have warned me previously about.
1) Pen Spinners are lazy.
2) Pen Spinners have poor time management skills, which mean that you cannot assume their commitment to a project if they signed up for it a month ago. They will in fact sign up to many projects, but only complete few of them.
3) Pen Spinners do not report their whereabouts and so you cannot assume that everything is going fine if they don't contact you.
4) Pen Spinners are away from home during vacations and studying during school, which means there is never a right time to organize a long project.
This is in addition to the following points:
5) Pen Spinners are intimidated by "official" events which kills the little motivation they had.
6) Pen Spinners have more motivation working for themselves (battle, solo) then for a collective.
7) Pen Spinners are more interested in watching new original projects, rather than participating in them.
Anyway, this will affect the way we run official events in the future. This pretty much kills the possibility of any kind of public, long term project. We will have to find a solution to be able to people participate more in those events, perhaps by making them more exclusive (invite-only) and valuable.
Send me a video for this collab any time you want, I'll take it. I ask also to keep the videos I have until I officially declare it dead, then you can re-use it for whatever else you want.
It's pretty frustrating for me to run failed projects but I'll see what I can do.Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 15:03:22How many videos (or how much extra 'time') would be enough to make this project go ahead?
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 15:13:31QUOTE (Mats @ Nov 5 2007, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How many videos (or how much extra 'time') would be enough to make this project go ahead?QUOTE (neXus @ Nov 5 2007, 04:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay, lets think a combo is 15 seconds long, that makes 105 seconds aka 1 Minute 45 seconds, the song is 4:32. How are we supposed to fill this, it'll be more stuff than spinning. Even if all combos were 20 secs. there's still abit over 2 minutes space.Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 15:19:52So if we don't fill the whole timing of the song, the project doesn't go ahead?
Oh and also, can we make new pairings and send in videos from that pairing?Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 15:38:576) Actually, I think people will record basically anything for battles. They don't spend much time on that. For an official collab though, they think they have to produce someting really good. Which brings us to your point 5).
Exclusive collabs sounds more effective, if you invite people to a collab they basically will have to send in their videos.
I thought about someting more, but it slipped my mind while writing this...
EDIT: while reading this -> while writing this xDDate: Mon, Nov 5 2007 22:10:50Lets make a PREVIEW, and take more time to do the REAL collab =/
Date: Tue, Nov 6 2007 07:03:05QUOTE (Pearl @ Nov 6 2007, 06:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Lets make a PREVIEW, and take more time to do the REAL collab =/
Lol, pity this had to happen and i can really understand how frustrating ths must be for you Zombo.
People shouldn't sign up if they weren't going to try though, at least we wouldn't have wasted a whole month. I would imagine that a lot of people didn't quite try to do it, seeing as they didn't send in progress reports. Maybe invite only collabs might be better, because people are more pressured to send in their combos. But some people may be excluded.
I also agree to what SFSR said. A lot of old spinners (the good ones) have become inactive and the collabs should be coming from coming from the newer people as well.Date: Tue, Nov 6 2007 07:36:46Sadly, the trick to ensure a full turnout is bribery. For example, if someone good with photoshop made an exclusive insert only given to those to fullfill their commitment and send in a video. But it sucks that this collab didnt quite work out as planned.
edit: Or rather than a reward have a random hidden punishment that is only revealed once the deadline is past...like a 1 month banning for not turning in a video to a serious collab. That would be quite entertaining.Date: Tue, Nov 6 2007 12:27:13But quite mean, and intimidating for people to even sign up, if they know there's a chance for ban or punishment. Giving a reward also seems weird, just getting to be in a big official collab like this should be reward enough imo.
Date: Tue, Nov 6 2007 19:40:12Perhaps invitation only is the way forward for official collabs, then only people who are reliable and suitable will be selected, and only those who feel they can make the commitment will reply accepting. It also means, the only way to get in on an official collab is to prove your reliability in other things first. It's pretty drastic I guess, but seems necassary? (double c???)
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 14:42:57/cast Iceblock
Hmm, kinda sad but what you wanna do ...Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 22:29:38QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 6 2007, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But quite mean, and intimidating for people to even sign up, if they know there's a chance for ban or punishment.
EXACTLY! If someone cant commit to a serious collab then they should gtfo and not sign up. Penspinners are lazy and the only way to break that is either with reward or punishment.Date: Thu, Nov 8 2007 15:05:47QUOTE (K4S @ Nov 7 2007, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>EXACTLY! If someone cant commit to a serious collab then they should gtfo and not sign up. Penspinners are lazy and the only way to break that is either with reward or punishment.
I say punishment.Date: Tue, Dec 25 2007 21:00:07....*several months later*
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yeah, has this gone down the drain?Date: Tue, Dec 25 2007 21:06:18Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 00:52:02I know that this is a dead topic....but i do not think it should be a dead idea...maybe we could work in segments?
~at the start of summer, you will be open to receiving videos (make sure they do not post the videos on youtube in advance)
~at the start of summer, you post a contest for "who can create the best UPSB animation" (winner would not be revealed until release of Collab).
~In the middle of summer, you post a contest for "who is the best editor with time to edit collab" (winner would be announced, and he would edit the Collab).
~Near the end of summer, you (an maybe other mods) could evaluate the videos sent in and decide which ones to send to the editor.
~Editor would edit videos before the end of summer
delete this post if its a stupid idea ~_~Date: Sun, May 18 2008 11:05:33I think we should start this back up again. If you haven't noticed, most of the people that signed up before, aren't active anymore...so, maybe there will be a higher chance of more devoted spinners who will obey the rules and send Zombo whatever he needs.
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 04:54:50yea i was reading through this and most of the sign ups were still newcomers... so, what, they came to UPSB and then like left? i think we have more 'veterans' now
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 05:16:12Most of them are kickass. A 'Newcomer' title doesn't mean they haven't been around for a while, many of them came from UCPSB.
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 05:53:46yea i know that, but-
wait
does the title update on your old posts...?
like when i become an old timer, will this post say it?
if not, im retarded sorryDate: Wed, May 21 2008 06:34:05Yes, it does update and yes, that post will say Old Timer.
It would be great if the project were to be re-opened again in the summer.Date: Wed, May 21 2008 08:15:26Yes, it does 'update', but most of the members had come from UCPSB or from a different board. Lots of people didn't spam like lots of people do now. A lot of people were still newcomers back then, and some people left or just don't post much. Their number of posts doesn't at all reflect their penspinning.
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 12:20:41im unpinning this, this project has been dead, if a new UPSB collab, it wouldn't be a revival of this one, it would be an entirely new one
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 12:22:43R.I.P UPSB official failure collab.
- People from many communities are "reunited" together under UPSB. Now of course people may pair up with their friends, but some won't. It's a good opportunity to mingle.