UPSB v3
Tutorials Pending Approval / SeVen's mod
help
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Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 02:08:14
http://seven7r.blog95.fc2.com/blog-category-2.html can someone help me translate this? i couldn't make sense out of babblefish. lol
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Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 02:27:04
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...EN&ie=UTF-8
try that? -
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 03:03:17
haha thats the same thing i got from babblefish. but everything seems kinda wierd O.O
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Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 03:15:26
i'll see if i can do some decoding..
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Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 03:32:25
working on a translation, will edit this post when I'm finished
QUOTEParts:
1 G3(main body and plastic tip are used)
1 Jimnie (cap)
1 Hypergel(grip)
1 lakuba (grip)
1 needle point(tip)
1 metallic Gel (the part of the tip of the needle point that became plastic, same as above) *not to sure what he means w/o seeing the pens*
1 signo with grip. (everything except the body)
1 100yen shop pastel color(I think this isn't needed)
a small amount of anyball
a small amount of HGG(HF) grip
electrical tape
cellophane tape
aluminum tape
Cap Section.
First cut the whole jimnie clip off the cap.
Put inside the cap about 1 block of anyball grips worth of an hgg grip,
inside this grip put a signo tip and fix it in place.
part A is complete.
Cut 2.6 cm of a hyper gel grip, inside this grip put in 1.5 blocks of an anyball grip.
part b is complete
We will put part B into part A, but just putting it in there, the fixed signo tip will look strange.
put an insert in to hide the gap. Lastly put the 1 block of the uneven/rough section of the 100 yen shop pastel color grip in, and the cap is complete.
Grip section.
We will cut 6mm of the signo's grip, and put it on the outside of the front of the g3, and push 2 blocks of anyball grip inside the pen. After that wrap a thinly cut piece of aluminum tape once around the front of the g3.
On top of that put the Metallic Gel tip, and then on top of that put on the needle point tip. At this time put 1.5 revolutions of aluminum tape onto the needle point tip.
Lastly put on a lukabo grip and it is finished.
Finishing.
On the bottom of the pen wrap electrical tape and after that wrap cellophane tape(to prevent the electrical tape from sliding) Put the body and the cap together and it is complete.
It's length is just right, it should be 20cm.
If the center of gravity doesnt line up, change the number of wraps of aluminum tape, or change the number of grips inside. -
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 04:37:14
@thbirdman Whoops that is still a sloopy translation... Good try anyway but wats a jimami grip??
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Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 04:40:58
No idea, i don't know japanese pens too well. ^^;
Edit: 1st I read it wrong it was jimuni, not jimani. But I looked it up and it's a pen made by zebra, says Jimnie on it in English, so I changed it to that in my translation. Also I read it another part wrong, and he said clip, instead of grip. Edited translation. -
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 09:21:06
you dont realy need to use that jimnie pen for the cap
if you see here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVQDXK8AYL8
in some clips, the pens have a hyper gel and some have the jimnie. -
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 09:43:23
Hey TEK, u got a seven's mod alrdy rite? Could u give us a pic of the metallic gel pen?
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Date: Tue, Jul 22 2008 10:00:27
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Date: Tue, Jul 22 2008 11:11:07
wow xD thanks alot Tek. im supposing i can sub some of the tips and grips right ?
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Date: Tue, Jul 22 2008 12:10:37
After that video tut, I think that the pastel grip thing and anyball isnt needed, and instead of using a jimnie cap u can use a hyper jell cap. TEK, is there a sub for the metallic gel and needle point tip?
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 20:57:21
http://annkou2.blog105.fc2.com/blog-entry-331.html
Metallic Gel Picture:
Needle point Picture:
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Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 00:52:48
ok...i got all the parts for this mod today...
and i can say......
you can sub the cap for hyper gel cap (they are pretty much exactly the same..the only thing that is different is the upper clip part)
needle point tip can be sub'ed with a g3 tip (they are pretty similar with the lip at the bottom of the tips and they both weight pretty close)
and for the metallic gel...could be sub'ed with a plastic g3 tip...pretty much the same thing too
last...the pastel grip is pretty much like any other grip... -
Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 03:56:50
Thx TEK!!! U rock!! Now im goin to get all the parts.
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Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 04:05:24
Please don't start calling it a SeVen mod, it's SEVEN.
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Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 01:33:25
How big is the insert suppose to be for the cap and body?
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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 14:56:06
Can anyone give me the dimensions for the inserts in the body and cap?
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Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 06:12:55
is signo broad same as signo knocks?
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Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 06:15:01QUOTE (penmaster @ Feb 13 2009, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is signo broad same as signo knocks?
No, Signo Knock grips are longer. -
Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 07:38:53
What do signo broads have to do with seven mods?
and if you are saying about length, theres two kinds of signo braods
i believe the Retractable ver. has the same length as the signo knock, whereas the capped one is shorter -
Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 20:11:48
are needlepoint tips supposed to be metal or plastic? thanks in advance.
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Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 20:16:12QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Feb 14 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>are needlepoint tips supposed to be metal or plastic? thanks in advance.
Needlepoint tips are metal, Metallic Gel tips are plastic.
Does that help?
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Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 21:57:05QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Feb 14 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Needlepoint tips are metal, Metallic Gel tips are plastic.
Does that help?
im a bit pissed off then. i ordered 6 needlepoints from penwish. all have plastic silver tips. what should i do?? -
Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 22:13:40QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Feb 14 2009, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>im a bit pissed off then. i ordered 6 needlepoints from penwish. all have plastic silver tips. what should i do??
Really? I'm pretty sure that all Needlepoint tips are metal tips.
My SEVEN mod has a metal Needlepoint tip.
But if it's too light, you can try using aluminum tape to make it heavier. -
Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 22:18:23
i need to find out for sure. if they are supposed to be metal then i suppose i should complain to penwish right?
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Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 22:21:43QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Feb 14 2009, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i need to find out for sure. if they are supposed to be metal then i suppose i should complain to penwish right?
Well, Needlepoint tips are actually light, somewhat heavier than an HGG tip. I'm pretty sure Penwish got the right Needlepoint. -
Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 22:31:11QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Feb 14 2009, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i need to find out for sure. if they are supposed to be metal then i suppose i should complain to penwish right?
They look exactly like the ones I have. I think the idea of them being fake is just your paranoia. -
Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 23:12:19QUOTE (Xero @ Feb 14 2009, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They look exactly like the ones I have. I think the idea of them being fake is just your paranoia.
so i broke one with my teeth. it was plastic. im not paranoid. -
Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 14:12:25QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Feb 15 2009, 07:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so i broke one with my teeth. it was plastic. im not paranoid.
any pictures? and link to the PW product please? -
Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 14:58:01
i suppose it was paint cracking on the exterior of the tip or the interior of the cap is plastic. its a very light tip. unless i decide to chew on the cap ill call it a very thin and extremly light metal exterior. one more question though. where is the cog located on this mod? i had to use a signo tip in place of the metallic gel tip to balance the pen out alittle bit. without the signo tip the cog is less than an inch from the cap. thanks for the help
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Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 17:17:49
I'm pretty sure that the Needle Point tip I got from PenWish is plastic too. It's definitely not just paranoia.
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Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 19:34:27
when i bit it i heard it cracking so i figured it was plastic. im still not sure i guess
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Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 19:47:56QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Feb 15 2009, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>when i bit it i heard it cracking so i figured it was plastic. im still not sure i guess
Highly unlikely, but maybe Penwish accidentally stocked fake Needlepoints.
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Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 19:56:54
It seems the penwish needlepoint tips are in fact plastic. Real needlepoint tips are supposed to be metal though (I think heavier than a signo tip)... Keane was telling me about his dopamine, and how the tips from the penwish needlepoints were plastic... and so I don't think that this is your paranoia at all--penwish has the wrong needlepoints =\
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Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 20:09:23QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Feb 15 2009, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Highly unlikely, but maybe Penwish accidentally stocked fake Needlepoints.
i'll contact penwish and find out. i bought quite a few expecting them to be legit. -
Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 20:14:48
I was talking to Stevieboy and he said that the new Needlepoints are plastic tipped. This is probably because everything is trying to be eco-friendly oriented nowadays.
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Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 20:31:49QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Feb 15 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I was talking to Stevieboy and he said that the new Needlepoints are plastic tipped. This is probably because everything is trying to be eco-friendly oriented nowadays.
considering pen tip is way light. is it false advertising for penwish to advertise needlepoint pen is used to make needlepoint mod (dopamine) -
Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 20:39:43
Well to solve your problem about making the mod, a signo tip screw right onto the needlepoint body. However, in penwish's defense I do not believe that he knows much about making mods (no offense or anything) and rather, he just looks at the material list required for each mod. Therefore, I think that he just ordered Needlepoints without knowing the correct one required for modding. In addition, I myself even forget which one is supposed to be metal and which is supposed to be plastic. The METAL in metallic gel is pretty confusing IMO.
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Date: Sun, Feb 15 2009 23:40:51
thx. i didnt realize the signo tip screwed into the needlepoint body. made my dopamine cog alot better. as for my sevens mod. i subbed the metallic gel tip for signo and then put the plastic needlepoint tip on top of that so it still looks authentic.
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Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 01:24:06
sorry for bringing up an old topic but i want to confirm something, i can put a signo tip and a plastic needlepoint tip in the front instead of metallic gel tip and then a metal needlepoint tip right? and it wont affect the balance?
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Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 01:29:21
Yeah they should be around the same weights for the tips and shouldnt effect the balence
i think the metal needle point is about the same as a signo tip -
Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 01:31:47QUOTE (kenny158 @ Apr 15 2009, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah they should be around the same weights for the tips and shouldnt effect the balence
i think the metal needle point is about the same as a signo tip
thank you very much -
Date: Tue, Apr 21 2009 10:25:06
Just to clarify things so people know the difference... Needle point tips are ~2.05g (school balance only measures to 2dp)
Signo tips, (using the commonly used metal tips thread) are 1.836g (±0.015g)
Quite similar..
However, G3 tips are 1.48g (2dp) and the difference between that and a needle point tip is about the weight of a HGG tip.
If you can't obtain needlepoints, the most similar way to acheive the weight of a needle point tip is HGG tip (k116) + G3 tip, which is about 2.10g
Weighed it today in biology to check ^^ -
Date: Fri, May 1 2009 07:51:04QUOTE (TL317 @ May 1 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I know how to make a comssa retractable!
what does that have to do with this topic?...
anyway can anyone tell me wads the length of the jimnie grip in the back?
oops jsut realised someone translated it in front -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 17:47:10
Can anybody give me the weight and length of this mod?
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Date: Tue, Oct 20 2009 22:04:23QUOTE (Archermitch @ May 25 2009, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can anybody give me the weight and length of this mod?
20 cm
14 g -
Date: Wed, Nov 18 2009 06:47:08
mmurr... i don't like reviving topics that were dead for a month but...
if i don't have a metallic gel tip, can i just use one of those cheap plastic silvery-look tip? -
Date: Wed, Nov 18 2009 06:53:33QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Nov 17 2009, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>mmurr... i don't like reviving topics that were dead for a month but...
if i don't have a metallic gel tip, can i just use one of those cheap plastic silvery-look tip?
(I dont have a metallic gel, but has HAD a needlepoint before
Just making assumptions here.)
Theyre like Hi-Tec C tips, the inside has more room than the signo tip to accompany the larger inktubes
So..i guess you can use those fake signo tips, if you shave em off a bit -
Date: Wed, Nov 18 2009 07:08:59QUOTE (Colin @ Nov 18 2009, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>(I dont have a metallic gel, but has HAD a needlepoint before
Just making assumptions here.)
Theyre like Hi-Tec C tips, the inside has more room than the signo tip to accompany the larger inktubes
So..i guess you can use those fake signo tips, if you shave em off a bit
Or a plastic needle point. They're virtually the same except the needlepoint is like barely a mm taller. I don't see why that makes a difference but people seem to care a whole lot about it... -
Date: Wed, Nov 18 2009 07:12:21QUOTE (ION @ Nov 17 2009, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Or a plastic needle point. They're virtually the same except the needlepoint is like barely a mm taller. I don't see why that makes a difference but people seem to care a whole lot about it...
CAUSE. AUTHUNTIC PARTS ARE LIKE, FOR TEH WINSURZ.
but all in seriousness, they prolly want to have that acccomplicahsed feeling? idk
im just whatever xD -
Date: Wed, Nov 18 2009 07:24:31QUOTE (Colin @ Nov 18 2009, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>CAUSE. AUTHUNTIC PARTS ARE LIKE, FOR TEH WINSURZ.
but all in seriousness, they prolly want to have that acccomplicahsed feeling? idk
im just whatever xD
But they're both Ohto pens... and the only difference is that one is shiny and like .01cm taller. -
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 20:05:31
give me please link where i can get metal grip tip on penwish
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Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 20:08:03QUOTE (faysto @ Mar 19 2010, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>give me please link where i can get metal grip tip on penwish
thanks
metal grip tip? if you mean the metal tip on the front of the pen, here: http://penwish.com/product_info.php?cPath=...products_id=972
but next time, search for it yourself -
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 20:43:31QUOTE (JC @ Mar 19 2010, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>metal grip tip? if you mean the metal tip on the front of the pen, here: http://penwish.com/product_info.php?cPath=...products_id=972
but next time, search for it yourself
no, i mean tip on 0.32 here -
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 21:10:25
You still didn't do as JC said ... searching for the answer would be alot easier.
Anyways the tip you are looking for is this : Click -
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 21:25:17QUOTE (Oow @ Mar 20 2010, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You still didn't do as JC said ... searching for the answer would be alot easier.
Anyways the tip you are looking for is this : Click
thanks
ps
i tried to find it... -
Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 21:31:21
I have one question:
If i use signo tip instead needly point tip, COG=COP? -
Date: Sun, Apr 4 2010 13:45:57QUOTE (Avenger7x @ Apr 2 2010, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have one question:
If i use signo tip instead needly point tip, COG=COP?
no.
Okay people, Here we go, SO THERE WILL BE NO MORE RETARDED QUESTIONS.
Credits to Thbirdman for parts of the translation, and me for cleaning it up.
Stats:
Weight: Weight is 14 grams; about an MX^2, but this is a but different, has more momentum..
Length: 20 cm
COB is Slightly to the back, but it depends on the amount of aluminum tape.
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Tutorial
Parts:
1 G3(main body and plastic tip)
1 Jimnie/Jamnee (cap)
1 Hyper Jell(grip)
1 Lakubo (grip)
1 Needle point(Metal tip)
1 Metallic gel (has a plastic tip)
1 Signo Broad (the tutorial uses white)
1 Pastel Color Grip (Can be subbed for some other white grip; isn't realy necassary)
1 Anyball (2 1.5 sections, not really necassary either)
1 HGG grip (small section, just enough to cover the lip on a signo tip)
Tape of some kind (SEVEN's uses black electrical)
Packaging Tape
Aluminum Tape (Optional, but recommended)
EDIT: It is notable that the original SEVEN mod uses pastel color grip in the front instead of White Signo Broad, but I think ponkotu changed this because pastel color grips are hard to get/ugly..
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Cap Section.
1. Cut the whole jimnie clip off the cap.
2. Cut off a piece of the HGG grip (it should be the same size as a normal anyball strip)
3. Put the Signo tip insid the grip, and then put it in the cap.
4. Cut 2.6 cm of a hyper gel grip, inside this grip put in 1.5 blocks of an anyball grip.(anyball grip is again, optional)
5. Wrap an insert around the Hyperjell grip and put it in the Jimnie cap.
6. Then put a .2-.3 cm section of The Pastel Color grip. (If you don't have Pastel Color Grip, Then you can use White HGG or some other white grip; most traders don't use pastel color grip anyway)
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Grip section.
1. Take the G3, and file the Bumps, Ridges, and the G3 Tip so it is ever with the G3 body.
2. Unscrew the G3 tip and Put the other 1.5 piece of anyball inside the G3. Screw the G3 tip back on (This step can be skipped)
3. Wrap Packaging Tape around the G3 so that it covers the body up to the G3 Tip's lip, but wrap a little bit more on where the Signo Broad is going to be, so it is even with the lakubo grip.
4. Cut 6 mm off of the White Signo Broad, and throw it on the G3
5. On top of that put the Metallic Gel tip (plastic) , and then on top of that put on the needle point tip(metal). Now here is where you wrap aluminum tape around the tips, so that the balance will be the same..
6. Put the Lakubo grip all over that, and put an insert in the body.
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On the back of the pen wrap electrical tape, and put the cap on the body.
If the center of gravity doesnt line up, change the number of wraps of aluminum tape, or change the number of grips inside. -
Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 14:24:04
Nice post, Nation. *thumbs up* Finally a good text tutorial, maybe someone could edit it to the first post.
I still don't really understand the reason why SEVEN used a new grip for the pastel color grip. Why don't just use the signo broad grip? It's white, and AFAIK you don't use the whole signo grip anyways...
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Date: Wed, Apr 7 2010 15:37:33QUOTE (Oow @ Apr 7 2010, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nice post, Nation. *thumbs up* Finally a good text tutorial, maybe someone could edit it to the first post.
I still don't really understand the reason why SEVEN used a new grip for the pastel color grip. Why don't just use the signo broad grip? It's white, and AFAIK you don't use the whole signo grip anyways...
well actually, the original used Pastel color grip in the front, and it in the back, but people subbed it because it was ugly/hard to get. -
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 16:36:30QUOTE (Nation @ Apr 4 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Parts:
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1 Lakubo (grip)
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No! It must be Laknock grip! Lacubo grip lighter and thinner than Laknock grip
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Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 20:20:59QUOTE (Avenger7x @ Apr 28 2010, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No! It must be Laknock grip! Lacubo grip lighter and thinner than Laknock grip
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Date: Thu, Apr 29 2010 04:17:16QUOTE (Nation @ Apr 28 2010, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it makes absolutely no difference.
Have you ever seen this grips?
Make SEVEN's G3 with Laknock grip and SEVEN's G3 with Lacubo grip and feel difference.gif)
Our spinners made SEVEN's G3 with Lacubo and this pen hasn't COP=COG -
Date: Thu, Apr 29 2010 04:21:30QUOTE (Avenger7x @ Apr 29 2010, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Have you ever seen this grips?
Make SEVEN's G3 with Laknock grip and SEVEN's G3 with Lacubo grip and feel difference
Our spinners made SEVEN's G3 with Lacubo and this pen hasn't COP=COG
the two grips are identical
i think your refering to
laknock and shaknock
the two are different lengths -
Date: Tue, May 4 2010 23:12:05QUOTE (Nation @ Apr 28 2010, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it makes absolutely no difference.
you sir, are wrong.QUOTE (darkrose @ Apr 28 2010, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the two grips are identical
i think your refering to
laknock and shaknock
the two are different lengths
the grips are identical, correct.
laknock is wider, and thicker than a lakubo.
I also believe that it is heavier.
a lakubo grip tapers at the end, while a laknock does not. -
Date: Tue, May 4 2010 23:53:52
lacknock grip is thicker than lakubo. Is there a difference? yes. it is substantial? probably not too much but it does make a slight difference
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Date: Wed, May 5 2010 03:15:48QUOTE (Avenger7x @ Apr 28 2010, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Have you ever seen this grips?
Make SEVEN's G3 with Laknock grip and SEVEN's G3 with Lacubo grip and feel difference
Our spinners made SEVEN's G3 with Lacubo and this pen hasn't COP=COG
True they are different but seven is front heavy so the lighter lakubo would make the pen more cop=cog right? not vis versa -
Date: Wed, May 5 2010 21:13:06QUOTE (Kirby @ May 4 2010, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>True they are different but seven is front heavy so the lighter lakubo would make the pen more cop=cog right? not vis versa
besides, You're supposed to put aluminum tape over the front to make it COP= COB, so yeah, it doesn't make a difference unless you REALLY care that much.