UPSB v3

Pen Modifications / Kam's Impact MX

Some extra info and updates. Tutorial coming any time now

  1. Kam
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 18:48:40

    Due to the number of questions I've been getting about my new mod, I decided to start a new thread for discussion.

    READ THIS >> I will not be releasing a tutorial yet. After I meet up with other pen spinner at the gathering, I'll consider whether this mod is worthy of a tutorial or not. Until then, you can bug me all you want for a tutorial, but you won't get anything tongue.gif

    --Edit-- It looks like the poll shows a number of people interested in this mod. So I guess a tutorial will be released...time estimate? Aug. 16th. That should give me enough time to get feedback at the SoCal gathering, one week to incorporate any changes, and another week to write the tutorial.
    --end of edit--

    Now, for those who haven't seen it, here's the preview:



    Here are some stats:

    length: 19.4cm
    weight: ~18.2g (for comparison, the RSVP MX is about 12.6g, and the KT is about 17.5g)
    momentum: between MX^2 and MSXA due to its length

    cost: aprox. $8~15

    notable features
    • simple and classic look (yes, it's a feature dammit. I don't like getting asked "wth is that?" when I'm spinning)
    • impact resistant
    • lots of momentum for its size


    less notable features
    • cushy grip section seems to work better for Infinity style tricks
    • water proof (to some extent, haven't tested fully)
    • single sided pens FTW tongue.gif


    insert features
    • seamless non-straight cut (allows more flexible design while keeping it professional)
    • contact info section (so people can identify your pen, and possibly return it to you if found)
    • convenient insert removal tab (allows you to easily remove the insert)
    • serial number

  2. Huroni
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 18:51:45

    Depends on materials really...My parents don't really encourage penspinning, so if it require abroad trading...I might not be able to.

  3. Boshi
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 18:52:02

    lol, thers no "yes" on the vote thingy...and OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG KAM I CANT SLEEP I NEEEEEED TO MAIK ONE OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG SEEEXXAAYYYY

  4. Dynamik
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 19:00:24

    no matter wut materials r used in the pen, i will be making one. this pen looks really inovative.

  5. NaDa
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 19:02:26

    What if you roll it the other way if you think you might lose it?

  6. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 19:06:41

    Looks great and it's longer than the MX, even better. I'd make it, but I'm also wondering about the materials also. Is it pen spinner friendly? Easy to get?

  7. Kam
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 19:19:32

    QUOTE (-JC- @ Jul 25 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    kam....if someone found that...who in the world would think about openign up to see the insert, unraveling the insert to try and find name and other contact information xDD



    well, in the unlikely case where they are curious and decide to do it, at least you got ur information there. I am thinking about making the pull out tab have a printed arrow though...lol. It's possible that after seeing that the pen writes in reverse, one might be curious to unscrew the back cap.

    Also, another use is if someone steals your pen and claims to be his/her own. You can end the discussion just by looking at the insert.

    @CaliMartinio: no, if the gathering was last year, this pen is built a lot different now. I've been working on it for about a year now, so it's changed quite a bit.

  8. TRoc
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 19:33:48

    Is this mod much different from a normal MX or MX^2 or is it just like a quick modification off of them?
    Anyway, yea I wouldn't mind seeing a tutorial.

  9. Drift
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 19:37:24

    Looks like an MX with more momentum?
    I'm all for a tutorial

  10. Kam
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 19:41:50

    QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Jul 25 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Looks great and it's longer than the MX, even better. I'd make it, but I'm also wondering about the materials also. Is it pen spinner friendly? Easy to get?


    Hmmm....that...not really...lol. To keep the tradition of the MX, I'm still using HGG tips and grips. However, all other parts should be easily available in US.

    QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Jul 25 2008, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No it's not. He uses less pens in this one. At least according to what Kam told me last time.


    QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Jul 25 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    His previous Impact MX used 2 tips in the front, and a hgg tip in the back.


    Really? I might have lied or changed my mind then. The new version uses 4 pens as JC mentioned. I could have made it cheaper with less pens, but wanted to make it further apart from Tek's MX^2. I still like the MX^2 and don't want people to replace their MX^2s with this pen. So for a bit of extra cost, you get more momentum. If you want a cheaper pen, then the MX^2 is a better option. ^^

    QUOTE (Tone @ Jul 25 2008, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Haha the insert is so detailed laugh.gif


    hehe....the devil is in the details (uh oh...did I just imply I'm evil?)

  11. Kam
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 20:12:32

    QUOTE (TEK @ Jul 25 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    remember what i said....
    with that grip...you need to bust a crazy design on it!
    tongue.gif
    cant wait for mine kam.

    one word....KISS
    I feel that if you cut the grip, you're gaining 1 pt in aesthetics, but losing 2 pts (1 by taking more time to mod, and 1 for losing weight in the front, which could lead to unbalanced pen and less momentum).

    QUOTE (TRoc @ Jul 25 2008, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Is this mod much different from a normal MX or MX^2 or is it just like a quick modification off of them?
    Anyway, yea I wouldn't mind seeing a tutorial.

    It's definitely not a quick mod. Although I believe you could make one with the parts from either pen, I haven't tried. It's such a different mod that would not be really worth it though.

    QUOTE (Mr. NervE @ Jul 25 2008, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Very nice man i didnt see anything like this coming out at all. j/w is there a grip on a grip in the front?


    It's been in the works for a year now (maybe more?). I didn't want to mention it and get people impatient with the wait. It has certainly gone though many changes.

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Jul 25 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If you release a tut for the mod, do you think you will release the insert as well? because that looks really nice.

    The mod itself looks really slick, and people won't be doing a double-take and asking what you're holding. happy.gif


    Yes, I believe I will release the insert, although probably not at 300dpi, maybe 150dpi. My main reason not releasing the insert for the MX is to keep it special for those who got an original MX made by me.

    I have come up with a new solution for the Impact MX to keep each pen I personally make unique, while still allowing others to enjoy the same insert. (hint: insert serial #)

  12. sathonmig
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 21:38:08

    That looks so sweeet smile.gif
    And what a nice picture, Kam!

    The cost scares me lol, but I still want to see the tutorial anyway.

  13. Spidey
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 21:51:45

    Oh man it looks awesome happyy.gif
    Insert also looks really nice. I just hope I can get my hands on the materials needed.

  14. sketching
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 22:37:39

    QUOTE (TEK)
    it reminds me of ... and ayatori mod (grip over grip in the front)...
    I'm sure you meant to say Engo Blendo DX. wink.gif

    QUOTE (Kam @ Jul 25 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    one word....KISS
    I feel that if you cut the grip, you're gaining 1 pt in aesthetics, but losing 2 pts (1 by taking more time to mod, and 1 for losing weight in the front, which could lead to unbalanced pen and less momentum).
    ....that, and cut-up grips are ugly.

    A tutorial of this or some future iteration would be nice, if for nothing other than an excuse to make another mod (it's been a few months since I've done any modding: Hybrid Comssa MX FTW).

  15. nateiskewl
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 23:36:56

    Absolutely yes. Seems a bit heavy, and long for me though. :/

    Does it only use pens available in the US?

  16. sailorboy24
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 23:58:07

    hgg tips? damn dry.gif i thought i would only need signos on this one...
    jw but are you using hgg grips too? all pens from usa would be amazing! also, awesome job on the pen and insert innovation. it looks spectacular! haha crap, august 16th? i STILL wont be home from Croatia by then... the anticipation! its driving me nuts!!!

  17. Katan_toon
    Date: Sat, Jul 26 2008 16:04:20

    Darn..makes me hate that I'm not in the U.S.>>
    BTW nice insert...it looks sexy. Nice. wink.gif

  18. -JC-
    Date: Sun, Jul 27 2008 06:51:59

    QUOTE (Shimotakimas @ Jul 27 2008, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No sir, RSVP MXs are consider heavy pens. Comssas fall in the medium. Zebras and Monami 153s are the light pens. These new mods such as KT and this fall under massive. Were talking pens here.

    *sigh* this was probably true in ucpsb days, but now, it's so different...comssas and mxs are way too light for some spinners to spin nowadays
    now it's more like:
    zebras = WTF, this is wayyyy too light to spin
    mxs + comssas = light.... (they're medium for me =\ )
    msxas, mx^2, metallic comssas = medium weighted pens
    ayatori mod + kt = heavy
    saizen g3 mod = HEAVYYYY!!!!

    so yeah, things have changed
    people need heavier things to more easily execute the harder tricks that are being developed nowadays
    i'd like to see someone try and do a devil's conversion or ipba rev 2.0 with a f3000----and if there really is people out there who can do that, i would suspect that there arent' too many
    --and so people make heavier mods to learn these tricks faster--people nowadays learn ipba rev 2.0s with kts at the same pace that people back then learned thumbarounds with f3000s ---so imagine learning ipba rev with a f3000-------most people would not have the patience to do that

    so yea, 18.2 g is wayy too heavy for a pen, but things are changing in the ps world--whether be for the better or worse

    It all depends on whether you actually want to spin pens....or you just want to do the tricks.

  19. Rorix
    Date: Sun, Jul 27 2008 07:02:01

    keep on topic guys, this thread is about Impact MX.

    post that stuff in a thread like What makes a pen

  20. Shimotakimas
    Date: Sun, Jul 27 2008 07:39:33

    QUOTE (-JC- @ Jul 26 2008, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    *sigh* this was probably true in ucpsb days, but now, it's so different...comssas and mxs are way too light for some spinners to spin nowadays
    now it's more like:
    zebras = WTF, this is wayyyy too light to spin
    mxs + comssas = light.... (they're medium for me =\ )
    msxas, mx^2, metallic comssas = medium weighted pens
    ayatori mod + kt = heavy
    saizen g3 mod = HEAVYYYY!!!!

    so yeah, things have changed
    people need heavier things to more easily execute the harder tricks that are being developed nowadays
    i'd like to see someone try and do a devil's conversion or ipba rev 2.0 with a f3000----and if there really is people out there who can do that, i would suspect that there arent' too many
    --and so people make heavier mods to learn these tricks faster--people nowadays learn ipba rev 2.0s with kts at the same pace that people back then learned thumbarounds with f3000s ---so imagine learning ipba rev with a f3000-------most people would not have the patience to do that

    so yea, 18.2 g is wayy too heavy for a pen, but things are changing in the ps world--whether be for the better or worse

    It all depends on whether you actually want to spin pens....or you just want to do the tricks.


    Awesome post thanks for bringing me up to date lol Im like a caveman in the ps world. Sorry Rorix for going off topic. Im wondering what the pentip mechanism Kam designed is. Definately a breakthrough in pen mod design.

  21. pholord
    Date: Sun, Jul 27 2008 17:14:02

    Its gonna be heavier than a Dr.KT because the RSVP has a hard plastic body that is heavier than a kt body. Impact MX may be heavier but the weight isnt concentrated completely at the ends.

  22. Noober
    Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 01:15:28

    The grip is 3.7 cm.

  23. ikore
    Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 15:50:54

    is it just me or does the picture remind you of spinz.... with the "revolutionary" and the "extra momentum" and also the flashy photo shop.... looks nice though i wants the tut!

  24. Kam
    Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 19:32:44

    QUOTE (ToastyRage @ Jul 27 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Kam has done it again. I once made a totally waterproof MX but it was phail at spinning.


    It's not really an important feature. I just figured if you're gonna spend so much time and money making this mod, might as well be water proof, right? Heck, even a regular MX could be water proofed easily.

    QUOTE (-JC- @ Jul 27 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmm...i think that this looks about right...
    anybody have measurements of this grip?

    and if this is really the grip that kam uses....the only mystery left really is what's going on in the back rolleyes.gif


    Is that so? Nobody have guessed the front part correctly yet.


    QUOTE (ikore @ Jul 28 2008, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    is it just me or does the picture remind you of spinz.... with the "revolutionary" and the "extra momentum" and also the flashy photo shop.... looks nice though i wants the tut!


    I think it's just you dude. This has NOTHING to do with Spinz. I've been using the word "Revolution" on Pentrix since 2003(?) and I'm known for my Photoshop skills. I guess the similarities you are referring to could be related to the professional look and marketing?

    In any case, this is my own personal project that I've worked on for over a year. Spinz has had no say in this and they are probably not aware of this.

  25. TEK
    Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 02:04:38

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Jul 28 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    It's a Signo Impact RT, isn't it?


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    did you read what he said.
    just wait...

  26. ToastyRage
    Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 02:08:28

    I do have lots of IMPACT pens. laugh.gif

  27. Ryuukohaden
    Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 03:51:56

    I wish I could buy one, but I'm not well-known enough to warrant being able to purchase one.

    Still, I'm very excited for the tutorial.

    Looks great, Kam.

  28. sailorboy24
    Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 17:22:24

    maybe he's not using the retractable Impact. there IS a non RT version i believe.
    and that tip in the pic is without a doubt a Signo Impact. im staring at one right now.

  29. Sankaku
    Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 23:42:17

    How can you tell that the tip is an Impact? Looks like the Signo normal to me. dunno.gif Anyways, here's my prediction on how it's made:

    HGG grip on front with Impact(?) grip over it, and HGG tip and Signo tip in the front.
    RSVP grip and signo(?)/HGG(?) tip in the back.
    Back plug?

  30. Outlander
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 02:19:53

    QUOTE (Sankaku @ Jul 30 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How can you tell that the tip is an Impact? Looks like the Signo normal to me. dunno.gif Anyways, here's my prediction on how it's made:

    HGG grip on front with Impact(?) grip over it, and HGG tip and Signo tip in the front.
    RSVP grip and signo(?)/HGG(?) tip in the back.
    Back plug?


    Kam already mentioned that there are no tips in the back. Its a mystery. laugh.gif

  31. Sankaku
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 04:34:57

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Jul 30 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Kam already mentioned that there are no tips in the back. Its a mystery. laugh.gif

    Wut? I must have missed that. >_< I dun see how it can be weighted in the back then, I think it's an HGG grip in the back, but like, where there the bumpy groove things are there is a grey stripe. But Kam said that it's almost as heavy if not same weight as a KT; how does he get the back part heavy?

    I'M SO CONFUZZLED! dunno.gif

  32. -JC-
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 04:37:32

    QUOTE (Sankaku @ Jul 31 2008, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wut? I must have missed that. >_< I dun see how it can be weighted in the back then, I think it's an HGG grip in the back, but like, where there the bumpy groove things are there is a grey stripe. But Kam said that it's almost as heavy if not same weight as a KT; how does he get the back part heavy?

    I'M SO CONFUZZLED! dunno.gif

    this is EXACTLY why we're all looking forward to this tutorial cause nobody knows how he does it >.<

  33. iamk34n3
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 07:44:18

    QUOTE (TEK @ Jul 28 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    did you read what he said.
    just wait...


    You're patient cause you get to see it in two days. tongue.gif
    Another reason why I can't wait for the SoCal Gathering.

    QUOTE (-JC- @ Jul 30 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    this is EXACTLY why we're all looking forward to this tutorial cause nobody knows how he does it >.<


    I'm pretty sure of what Kam uses in the back and front, however I don't think I'm allowed to say anything.

  34. benjamin0s
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 08:30:37

    QUOTE (sailorboy24 @ Jul 29 2008, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    maybe he's not using the retractable Impact. there IS a non RT version i believe.
    and that tip in the pic is without a doubt a Signo Impact. im staring at one right now.



    NO DUH RETARD Why do you think they call it the RT version?

    And if you said yourself the tip in the picture is a signo impact tip, why are you all like," Maybe he's not using the retractable impact."?

  35. sailorboy24
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 17:16:26

    because i KNOW now that is indeed a RT tip but MAYBE he also used a non RT Impact for the grip, which is way smaller and possible to be inserted under whatever grip is on the front! so THATS why i said maybe he's not using the RT! i know he's using the RT for a tip because the normal Impact tip is smaller and just like the signos we all use on MX's. next time why dont you ask for clarification instead of being a asshole?
    here is a non RT Impact tip: http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,5,1&prod=impact
    here is the RT Impact: http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,4...p;prod=impactrt
    see the differences now?

  36. Zoda
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 17:24:21

    The first Kam's Creation became the most used pen.

    Everyone want a tutorial in all the penspinning world.

  37. CudOfCow
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 20:13:20

    Why the poll? Did not very many people respond to it in the "Show off your pens" thread?

  38. Aries
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 21:10:43

    WAIT FOR THE TUT! just to save u guys and Kam the trouble. WAIT FOR THE TUT.

  39. pholord
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 21:31:33

    facepalm.gif You guys kno you dont win a prize if you guess the parts right? I mean seriously when Kam posts the tutorial are you guys gonna be like "OMFG I TOLD YOU GUYS HE USED THIS THIS AND THIS PEN!!1!" No ones gonna care. Arguing about something you dont kno about is just silly.

  40. Zombo
    Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 21:51:53

    well... it's always fun to speculate no? just like ppl talk about trade rumors... you could just wait for the trade deadline to be over and see what happened.

    it's a mental exercice to try and determine the parts based on a picture and a few more info.

  41. benjamin0s
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 05:44:57

    QUOTE (sailorboy24 @ Jul 31 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    because i KNOW now that is indeed a RT tip but MAYBE he also used a non RT Impact for the grip, which is way smaller and possible to be inserted under whatever grip is on the front! so THATS why i said maybe he's not using the RT! i know he's using the RT for a tip because the normal Impact tip is smaller and just like the signos we all use on MX's. next time why dont you ask for clarification instead of being a asshole?
    here is a non RT Impact tip: http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,5,1&prod=impact
    here is the RT Impact: http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,4...p;prod=impactrt
    see the differences now?


    Yes i see the differences. The RT tip is pointed down sharply while the tip on the impact is curved like a nextage. I meant in my previous post that since he was using a tip that excludes the use of an Rt cuz where i come from Rt's don't have tips. And stop calling the impact the "non RT impact" An impact is an impact. Rt means retractable, so anyone can tell that the retractable version was made after the capped impact, which makes the the capped impact the original. If you insist on lengthining the names of the pens you should call the RT the non capped version. And has it ever occured to you that maybe he used both pens? And even if he was using the impact grip would it reach all the way to the bottom of the grip barrel?

  42. matthewk206
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 06:34:13

    Oh goodness I want this. Terribly.

  43. vflash
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 13:11:42

    I really want it but...
    But parents dont like me pen spinning
    So i guess only if pens are found in USA.

    But great Pen biggrin.gif

  44. Icepray
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 13:29:32

    to be totally honest... tho it looks great, good thing that the COG is COP but the weight is putting me off,

  45. Huroni
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 13:49:46

    I'm amazed at the fact that you guys are so determined to figure this out lol. I wish I had as such motivation as you all do laugh.gif

  46. riverboy
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 14:13:04

    KAM! I LOVE THIS PEN!!! Is it possible that I would Buy it from you? LOL

    oR CAN you give me the materials for this one... biggrin.gif I want it for collection purposes wink.gif

  47. Scott Shaputis
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 15:26:15

    well you helped design spinz.
    so does this suck as much as them?

  48. GZSakuraz
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 15:27:55

    very nice pens XD

    very cool

  49. Kirbynator
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 18:24:51

    Nice one but i will stay at the old traditional MX. I dont like these Mods which only depends and focus on Momentum .. so keep old MX ^^

  50. Kam
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 19:10:21

    QUOTE (Scott Shaputis @ Aug 1 2008, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    well you helped design spinz.
    so does this suck as much as them?


    Well, you're WRONG! I did not help design them. They designed, and I tried to give them as much feedback to improve them as I could. Most of the time it was not my call.

    Also, if you believe I designed them, and you're saying they suck, are you implying that I suck? Are you trying to offend me? What did I ever do to you? dry.gif

    If you are trying to offend me though...please try harder....

    'Cause it's not working tongue.gif

    QUOTE (Kirbynator @ Aug 1 2008, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Nice one but i will stay at the old traditional MX. I dont like these Mods which only depends and focus on Momentum .. so keep old MX ^^


    Well, adding momentum while keeping the looks as simple as possible were the main goals of this mod. So, you'll probably not like this mod. That's fine though...I admire your determination to stick with lighter pens like the MX, but for learning new and harder tricks, I just needed a better pen.

    It doesn't mean we shouldn't aim to learn the tricks with light pens once you can do it with a heavier pen though.

  51. CudOfCow
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 19:42:41

    I say dont make a tutorial. Getting people all pumped up by putting it off for a week and still not posting anything is sort of annoying...sorry man. I dont mean to be discouraging but i really just dont care.

    I have all the mods i could want, why would i want another boring mx with a couple extra hgg tips inside it? I hope if you ever do decide to make the tutorial you include the insert pic to print out.

    Although, i highly doubt if anyone found my pen they would return it. most people dont know what pen spinning is and arent really obsessed with opening up pens to find out what is written on the note inside...



  52. Skye
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 20:09:06

    Looks great + created by KAM, but the insert - mehh. I agree with cud about the pen not being returned.

    - Skye -

  53. Scott Shaputis
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 21:27:32

    QUOTE (Kam @ Aug 1 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well, you're WRONG! I did not help design them. They designed, and I tried to give them as much feedback to improve them as I could. Most of the time it was not my call.

    Also, if you believe I designed them, and you're saying they suck, are you implying that I suck? Are you trying to offend me? What did I ever do to you? dry.gif

    If you are trying to offend me though...please try harder....

    'Cause it's not working tongue.gif


    good god mr. arrogant i wasn't trying to offend you calm the fuck down.
    i thought you helped design spinz thats what information i received one way or another
    not everyones out to get you...

  54. Shadowserpant
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 21:44:17

    what's everybody hatin on Kam for?
    Kam has been designing this pen for years. He works on the few mods that he makes until they are pure perfection, and he wants the next edition of the MX to be perfect. He has a date outlined for when he will release the tutorial and has clearly explained all of his reasons for that date. It has been clearly stated that this mod is intended to have more momentum than an MX, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you don't want more momentum than an MX, don't spin it. As if there aren't any other mods out there with more momentum than an MX? Yet Kam has managed to make it look like an actual normal pen, which was also one of the points he strived for. In the process, he made it waterproof and impact resistant. The only reason he had to put out this little teaser in the first place is because people kept asking him about his new mod. He isn't trying to provoke questions as some of you are insinuating.

    And people do get curious about inserts. They can tell it's inside the pen, plus since the pen looks like an RSVP they know that shouldn't be there. I've had people find my RSVP mods and take out the insert to look at it.

  55. Kam
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 23:04:28

    QUOTE (Scott Shaputis @ Aug 1 2008, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    good god mr. arrogant i wasn't trying to offend you calm the fuck down.
    i thought you helped design spinz thats what information i received one way or another
    not everyones out to get you...


    And I corrected you. That's all.

    I'm plenty calm...I'm not sure where you got the idea that I need name calming down. I didn't even call you any names or cussed smile.gif

    Perhaps you were suggesting that someone else here needs a chill pill? dunno.gif

  56. Sankaku
    Date: Fri, Aug 1 2008 23:16:00

    QUOTE (riverboy @ Aug 1 2008, 07:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    KAM! I LOVE THIS PEN!!! Is it possible that I would Buy it from you? LOL

    oR CAN you give me the materials for this one... biggrin.gif I want it for collection purposes wink.gif

    facepalm.gif

    You've gotta be kidding me.

    That's like this topic.

  57. Aiyah
    Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 00:07:07

    at least he's asking to buy one with his own money huh.gif

  58. fusionnoble
    Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 00:25:58

    159 yesses means release it!
    I didn't ask lol...

  59. Kirbynator
    Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 02:00:26

    QUOTE (Kam @ Aug 1 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well, adding momentum while keeping the looks as simple as possible were the main goals of this mod. So, you'll probably not like this mod. That's fine though...I admire your determination to stick with lighter pens like the MX, but for learning new and harder tricks, I just needed a better pen.

    It doesn't mean we shouldn't aim to learn the tricks with light pens once you can do it with a heavier pen though.


    Yeah of course but i didnt know that it is/was your gaol to add Momentum^^ So i think many people will like and spin it but i .. i dont lknow i only spins light penns maybe thats why i wouldnt spin it..

  60. CPM8
    Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 05:57:55

    ... First of all... Everybody stop asking for a tutorial. He said when he would most likely release it, so no use asking for it... I just read through the 8 pages of this topic and most of the posts are either concerning the parts (which u won't guess, if I remember some of the ones I saw, even though he may have updated it) or asking for a tutorial or trade.

    People asking for tutorial: Patience is a virtue. So Stop Asking. (or requesting)

    Kam: The pen looks good. Can't wait to see if I remembered it correctly from the beginning of summer (which I doubt, stupid Finals...)
    I may remake my red vs. blue mx into this!

  61. Lasse
    Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 09:14:18

    Pen looks good, about the uniball impact:
    The unretractable has the same tip as normal Signo, so it xould just be Signo or Impact RT tongue.gif

  62. Sankaku
    Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 14:24:07

    QUOTE (Aiyah @ Aug 1 2008, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    at least he's asking to buy one with his own money huh.gif



    QUOTE (riverboy @ Aug 1 2008, 07:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    oR CAN you give me the materials for this one... biggrin.gif I want it for collection purposes wink.gif

    Looool. Besides, I don't think that Kam is willing to let just anyone buy/have one before the tutorial is released. Maybe Zombo or someone like that though. biggrin.gif

  63. Anascrash04
    Date: Sat, Aug 2 2008 14:57:17

    huh.gif wtf that was rude


    so yeah seriously KAM i'm interested tongue.gif, but hope it doesnt require much pens
    but yeah i kinda like the idea that it still has the traditional pen outline, not with tips on both sides[which are good to spin but look hella weird] and escape from " wtf is that baton , / stick / TOY " , its better to have comments like " nice pen, whats special in that "pen" etc"
    so go for it since its single-capped and durable ^^ laugh.gif

  64. NoRice4U
    Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 19:51:08



    tis true smile.gif this mod is awesome!!

  65. ThePenSpinGuy
    Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 21:03:52

    u bought it? or u made it >.> cuz THERE WAS A TUT... but they deleted teh link

  66. NoRice4U
    Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 21:22:18

    QUOTE (ThePenSpinGuy @ Aug 3 2008, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    u bought it? or u made it >.> cuz THERE WAS A TUT... but they deleted teh link


    uh that was a prank lol that wasnt the real tut, i helped to make that prank tut

  67. WeAl
    Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 21:45:14

    Wow wonderful pen! I love the insert, make a tut tongue.gif

  68. CudOfCow
    Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 23:00:24

    QUOTE (CPM8 @ Aug 2 2008, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ... First of all... Everybody stop asking for a tutorial. He said when he would most likely release it, so no use asking for it... I just read through the 8 pages of this topic and most of the posts are either concerning the parts (which u won't guess, if I remember some of the ones I saw, even though he may have updated it) or asking for a tutorial or trade.

    People asking for tutorial: Patience is a virtue. So Stop Asking. (or requesting)

    Kam: The pen looks good. Can't wait to see if I remembered it correctly from the beginning of summer (which I doubt, stupid Finals...)
    I may remake my red vs. blue mx into this!



    Dude, the only one asking for the tutorial is Kam. Now i dont at all mean to hate against Kam, but seriously if you are going to post a tutorial, do you really need to make a pep rally thread in order to do it? If you arent going to post up a tutorial, no one cares. If you are going to post up a tutorial, just do it. Stop dangling the carrot and getting everyone all peppered up, its lame.

    Ill tell you one thing though Kam, if your mod sucks you're gonna get a lot more crap for it since all these kids are expecting something really awesome. Just 2 cents and i dont mean anything negative towards you. Good luck, i hope the COP is in the middle unlike the MX.

  69. Sankaku
    Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 23:06:55

    QUOTE (WeAl @ Aug 3 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wow wonderful pen! I love the insert, make a tut tongue.gif

    Holy hell, he's releasing it on the 16th. Wait.

  70. ThePenSpinGuy
    Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 00:33:46

    QUOTE (Sankaku @ Aug 3 2008, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Holy hell, he's releasing it on the 16th. Wait.


    how do u know ??!?1!?!?!?!?!1?!?!?!?!!?!?!/1/!?!/!?!1?!?!?tacos

  71. llǝɔuǝd
    Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 00:35:41

    Cuz he said so. dry.gif

  72. Outlander
    Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 00:36:00

    That was an estimate Kam made in the first post I believe.

    People are just getting more anxious for the tutorial to be released, because we see the pics people posted from the SoCal gathering of their Impact MXs. Lets just all try to wait patiently, I'm sure that Kam will release it when he has time to write it up.

  73. Rorix
    Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 05:16:14

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Aug 4 2008, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Dude, the only one asking for the tutorial is Kam. Now i dont at all mean to hate against Kam, but seriously dude, if you are going to post a tutorial, do you really need to make a pep rally thread in order to do it? If you arent going to post up a tutorial, no one cares. If you are going to post up a tutorial, just do it. Stop dangling the carrot and getting everyone all peppered up, its lame.

    Ill tell you one thing though Kam, if your mod sucks you're gonna get a lot more crap for it since all these kids are expecting something really awesome. Just 2 cents and i dont mean anything negative towards you. Good luck, i hope the COP is in the middle unlike the MX.

    Dude, Kam's already explained why he made the topic, people were curious and kept asking questions. He didn't dangle the carrot, people asked for the carrot.

  74. Cadayday
    Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 11:04:15

    so.. how close it it to the final product?

  75. CudOfCow
    Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 13:36:41

    QUOTE (Rorix @ Aug 4 2008, 01:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Dude, Kam's already explained why he made the topic, people were curious and kept asking questions. He didn't dangle the carrot, people asked for the carrot.


    I'm confused as to why people keep getting told in/topic to stop asking about it....lol. Does that make sense at all?

  76. Kam
    Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 21:47:35

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Aug 4 2008, 06:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm confused as to why people keep getting told in/topic to stop asking about it....lol. Does that make sense at all?


    Hmmm...I think it's because after the poll, and me saying when I'll release the tutorial, repeatedly asking for a tutorial NOW it's starting to get annoying for some people.

    Anyways, after the gathering, it looks like the Impact MX is almost there. I think it's one more thing and it should be good enough for release.

  77. Kam
    Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 04:55:01

    Now that the tutorial is on the way, I thought I would take a break and work a bit on the insert.

    I know people will be trying to recolor, so I decided to go ahead and make it easy to do that.

    After hours and hours of work, I got several color schemes, so I put a little preview



    These are only some of the possibilities...there are several colors for the COG, the body, and the background. You can also copy one of the layers and customize your own color. The possibilities are endless.

    Anyways...too bad something bad happened today while I was working on this (read my blog? if you're curious), so I'm not in the best of mood right now.

    PS: This preview is supposed to have a joke. If you don't get the joke, that's too bad. Read my blog and post ur thoughts there.

    PS2: In regards to the tutorial, i've been working on it...got all the outline done, but needs to test it and then take pictures and put more details

  78. pholord
    Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 06:15:29

    one insert to rule them all indeed biggrin.gif

  79. Missle_Z
    Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 06:18:36

    lol, so dramatic.

  80. loonwern93
    Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 06:26:22

    still waiting for the tutorial...
    ill be patient. mellow.gif

  81. matthewk206
    Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 06:53:26

    God, I can't wait.
    I'm putting in a penwish order, just for this.

  82. Cadayday
    Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 07:43:31

    wheres the tut i want the tut X3

  83. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 05:55:10

    lmao coming to a printer near you..lol...nice inserts...where can we get them when they're released?

  84. Kam
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 05:56:46

    they'll be available for download

  85. Bigbud
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 17:24:35

    JUST GREAT! I just found out that on the 16th, the day of the tutorial, I have to go on shitty Duke of Edinburgh (random hillwalking thing loads of people do to help get into uni). I won't be back until the 18th, so I'll have to order on the 18th if the tut doesn't come out before 7:30am (UK time) on 16th. PLEEEEASE KAM release the tut early, I want to order on the 16th because I'm putting in a large order before I go back to school, and I'd rather not pay more than I need for postage by ordering twice...
    And of course, the mod looks great, biggrin.gif

  86. Xero
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 17:42:23

    Thanks so much for a Photoshop ready insert!
    It's a great idea. smile.gif

  87. jaychou
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 18:26:50

    delayed tutorial? cry.gif

  88. Aries
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 18:35:10

    I think the 16th is fine, considering is close to back-to-school. Which means back-to-school SHOPPING!!! OMGADS! Nice inserts I love the lovely pink one with tinted blue at the bottom right. One more thing, is it really heavier than a KT? That's a con for me.

  89. Kam
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:03:43

    QUOTE (Bigbud @ Aug 13 2008, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    JUST GREAT! I just found out that on the 16th, the day of the tutorial, I have to go on shitty Duke of Edinburgh (random hillwalking thing loads of people do to help get into uni). I won't be back until the 18th, so I'll have to order on the 18th if the tut doesn't come out before 7:30am (UK time) on 16th. PLEEEEASE KAM release the tut early, I want to order on the 16th because I'm putting in a large order before I go back to school, and I'd rather not pay more than I need for postage by ordering twice...
    And of course, the mod looks great, biggrin.gif


    Hmmm...I don't want you to waste money on shipping, but also not waste money on pens if it turns out that you can't find some of the other parts. Although I believe they are available in any country, I don't really know.

    Well, I guess I'll release the pens used, and if you want to go buy the pens, do it at YOUR OWN RISK. I don't want to hear people crying about wasting money buying them and it turns out you can't make an Impact MX because other parts are not available to you.

    With that said, here are the PENS needed (only pens are listed, the other materials will be released with the tutorial)

    Pens Needed:
    - 1x Pentel RSVP (1 black)
    - 2x Pentel Hybrid Gel Grip (HGG) (1 black, 1 silver/color of your choice)
    - 1x Uni-ball Gel Impact RT (IRT) (1 of any color, all of them have black grips)

  90. iamk34n3
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:06:14

    Before anyone does it, can I ask you guys to not be like: OMG I KNEW IT THOSE WERE THE PARTS FOR THE IMPACT MX!!1!

  91. nateiskewl
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:10:58

    OMG I KNEW IT THOSE WERE THE PARTS FOR THE IMPACT MX!!1!

  92. Laks
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:15:46

    great happy.gif seems not to be very expensive
    and now many people need more HGG
    wohoo trade with me yeah!

  93. Ryuukohaden
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:16:55

    I fucking kn-

    *reads iamkeane's post*

    dry.gif

  94. ThePenSpinGuy
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:23:55

    impact impact... where have i seen those b4 happy.gif

  95. -JC-
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:24:09

    you can tell those are the pens used from that one pic that tek posted up tongue.gif
    it's just the rest of the stuff that's in it and how those pens are used that's a mystery >.<

  96. Outlander
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:28:44

    If people in the US are looking for the Uniball Impact RT, I got some at Staples (it was a 3 pack fr like 8$ I think).


    And Kam, Can the second HGG grip be subbed by a colored RSVP grip? From the pics of the mod, it looks like you uses the ring and one other ring from the silver HGG.

  97. Skye
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:33:17

    heavier than a kt???

    . . .

    inserts look great

    oh yea i found impact pens at staples too
    3 for 8$

  98. Kam
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:35:13

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Aug 13 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If people in the US are looking for the Uniball Impact RT, I got some at Staples (it was a 3 pack fr like 8$ I think).


    And Kam, Can the second HGG grip be subbed by a colored RSVP grip? From the pics of the mod, it looks like you uses the ring and one other ring from the silver HGG.


    Sort of...but you'll only add more cost to the pen. You still need 2 HGGs in the end.

  99. Adam_ADD
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:39:47

    its cause you need 2 hgg tips for the front end right?

  100. Bigbud
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 21:52:08

    Thanks a lot Kam smile.gif, this decision means the difference between life and death... I'm going to wait until the 16th just because of Murphy's law... smile.gif + I need to wait to see if penwish stocks on uni impacts... unless I can find 1 here... does it have to be rt?

  101. alexiz
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 21:56:31

    QUOTE (-JC- @ Jul 28 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hm...this is true....
    even though we now know what grip and tip you use, we dont' know what's going on under that grip =\
    mehhhh >.<


    damm jc is right haha damm u kam for making this totally awsomeness !!! dont keep us waiting to long

  102. RandomNewb
    Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 22:04:00

    so... its an engo blendo with extra tips?...

    anyway, i guess we wait for tut but most of us with enough experience could probably make this.

    oh yeah

    OMG I KNEW IT THOSE WERE THE PARTS FOR THE IMPACT MX!!1!

    JEBJEBJEB!

    priceless.

  103. alexiz
    Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 01:43:51

    im going to get all the pens needed so i can be ready for the tutorial !!!
    yyayy

  104. Kam
    Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 02:38:18

    QUOTE (Bigbud @ Aug 13 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Thanks a lot Kam smile.gif, this decision means the difference between life and death... I'm going to wait until the 16th just because of Murphy's law... smile.gif + I need to wait to see if penwish stocks on uni impacts... unless I can find 1 here... does it have to be rt?


    Yes, the regular Gel Impact is pretty different and won't work

    QUOTE (RandomNewb @ Aug 13 2008, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    so... its an engo blendo with extra tips?...

    anyway, i guess we wait for tut but most of us with enough experience could probably make this.

    oh yeah

    OMG I KNEW IT THOSE WERE THE PARTS FOR THE IMPACT MX!!1!

    JEBJEBJEB!

    priceless.


    Engo Blendo? I hope not...link?

  105. ANBU
    Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 02:44:08

    Wow, heavier that a KT, this pen sure can kill someone.
    And i already have the material.
    Can't wait... can't wait...

  106. iamk34n3
    Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 02:58:26

    QUOTE (Kam @ Aug 13 2008, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yes, the regular Gel Impact is pretty different and won't work



    Engo Blendo? I hope not...link?


    wikisadob3.gif

    JK here's the link: Click.

  107. hu-man
    Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 21:03:01

    two more days!!!!!! I cant wait!!!!! biggrin.gif I think i might have figured out how to make it, although in my way you only need one hgg, the other can be a rsvp instead.

    1. completly disassemble rsvp
    2. reverse rsvp intube
    3. screw bck plug with rsvp ink back into the rsvp body
    4. snip off the three rings on the ends of the grip as if you're making an mx^2
    5. put those rings where the rsvp grip was originally
    6. put on the impact rt grip onto where the rsvp grip was above the 3 rings
    7. take the hgg grip (without the ring) and stuff it all the way into the rsvp cap
    8. declip the clip on the rsvp cap
    9. put the cap back on the rsvp
    10. take the impact rt tip and superglue it onto the hgg tip
    11. screw the hgg tip with the impact rt tip onto the rsvp as if you were making an mx, use teflon tape if needed

    DONE!!!!

  108. stevieboy7
    Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 22:55:46

    QUOTE (hu-man @ Aug 14 2008, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    two more days!!!!!! I cant wait!!!!! biggrin.gif I think i might have figured out how to make it, although in my way you only need one hgg, the other can be a rsvp instead.

    1. completly disassemble rsvp
    2. reverse rsvp intube
    3. screw bck plug with rsvp ink back into the rsvp body
    4. snip off the three rings on the ends of the grip as if you're making an mx^2
    5. put those rings where the rsvp grip was originally
    6. put on the impact rt grip onto where the rsvp grip was above the 3 rings
    7. take the hgg grip (without the ring) and stuff it all the way into the rsvp cap
    8. declip the clip on the rsvp cap
    9. put the cap back on the rsvp
    10. take the impact rt tip and superglue it onto the hgg tip
    11. screw the hgg tip with the impact rt tip onto the rsvp as if you were making an mx, use teflon tape if needed

    DONE!!!!



    where does the weight in the back come into play in this???

  109. nateiskewl
    Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 23:00:38

    QUOTE (stevieboy7 @ Aug 14 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    where does the weight in the back come into play in this???


    I bet there's like nuts and bolts back there. And I think there are two HGG tips in the front, not an Impact Signo + HGG.

  110. Aries
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 00:45:04

    hopefully kam can make a way to make it lighter

  111. TRoc
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 00:46:50

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Aug 14 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I bet there's like nuts and bolts back there. And I think there are two HGG tips in the front, not an Impact Signo + HGG.


    No, because in the picture the front tip doesn't look like an HGG.

  112. Mike
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 00:52:33

    Ha ha stop trying to guess guys it will be out soon...

  113. iamk34n3
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 01:51:35

    QUOTE (hu-man @ Aug 14 2008, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    two more days!!!!!! I cant wait!!!!! biggrin.gif I think i might have figured out how to make it, although in my way you only need one hgg, the other can be a rsvp instead.

    1. completly disassemble rsvp
    2. reverse rsvp intube
    3. screw bck plug with rsvp ink back into the rsvp body
    4. snip off the three rings on the ends of the grip as if you're making an mx^2
    5. put those rings where the rsvp grip was originally
    6. put on the impact rt grip onto where the rsvp grip was above the 3 rings
    7. take the hgg grip (without the ring) and stuff it all the way into the rsvp cap
    8. declip the clip on the rsvp cap
    9. put the cap back on the rsvp
    10. take the impact rt tip and superglue it onto the hgg tip
    11. screw the hgg tip with the impact rt tip onto the rsvp as if you were making an mx, use teflon tape if needed

    DONE!!!!


    Wrong, just wait for the tutorial. No use in speculating.

  114. Fripâ„¢
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 02:12:33

    QUOTE (stevieboy7 @ Aug 14 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    where does the weight in the back come into play in this???


    I bet you stuff the cap with grips...

  115. Mike
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 02:16:44

    QUOTE (Fripâ„¢ @ Aug 14 2008, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I bet you stuff the cap with grips...

    wrong.
    Just stop guessing guys.
    It will be out soon.

  116. -JC-
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 02:20:23

    QUOTE (Mike @ Aug 14 2008, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    wrong.
    Just stop guessing guys.
    It will be out soon.

    nobody knows how soon it'll be out in, it might still take awhile
    kam said that he probably won't finish it by the 16th...so it might be a little while longer than expected
    and as someone has said before, i think it was zombo, people are allowed to speculate so just let them do so if they want to

  117. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 07:30:36

    QUOTE (stevieboy7 @ Aug 15 2008, 05:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    where does the weight in the back come into play in this???

    screw and washer in the back cap

  118. p3nsp1nn3r
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 07:40:46

    Haha something tells me that he doesn't have random nuts and bolts in the back cap, but it may be possible that he has some other junk in the trunk. He did say "With that said, here are the PENS needed (only pens are listed, the other materials will be released with the tutorial)" after all.

    The idea of having a bunch of grips stuffed in the back would seem pretty logical, seeing as it's longer than the mx and the back cap has grips all way in (from what I can see on the first post anyways).

  119. Shadowserpant
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 08:09:55

    QUOTE (Aries @ Aug 14 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hopefully kam can make a way to make it lighter


    oh yea
    like maybe he could put the rsvp grip in the backcap and put an hgg tip and grip on the front!
    sleep.gif



    the whole point is for this to be heavier than an mx...

  120. loonwern93
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 12:38:42

    count down 1 day left(i think in my time zone)...

  121. CudOfCow
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 13:38:29

    Its been 3 weeks. I hope this mod is really complicated and the tutorial has music mixed by kam.

  122. Skrzat
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 13:50:33

    I really waiting on this mod. It's look great.

  123. hu-man
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 15:39:13

    QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Aug 14 2008, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wrong, just wait for the tutorial. No use in speculating.

    i think ill just wait, i hope kam isnt delayed...

  124. p3nsp1nn3r
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 22:31:36

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Aug 15 2008, 06:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Its been 3 weeks. I hope this mod is really complicated and the tutorial has music mixed by kam.


    LOL tutorial with music! Haha but what kind of song would actually go well with a mod tut?

    And omg mengz! one day until the estimated release date! Btw Kam, if it isn't ready on the due date, feel free to take a break and release it a bit late if you're having a rough time o.o

    You did say it was an estimate after all, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem if you're a day late or something.

  125. nateiskewl
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 23:02:00

    Well I have a better idea of how this is made -

    a RSVP cap filled with HGG/RSVP grip + a screw and bolt

    for the front -

    two HGG tips + an Impact tip all underneath a shitload of grip spam

  126. servantofGod
    Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 23:39:58

    for uniball impact rt

    Fred Meyer-not sold there
    Staples-3 for $8
    Office Max-5 for $10
    WalMart-? need to check

    QUOTE (p3nsp1nn3r @ Aug 15 2008, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    LOL tutorial with music! Haha but what kind of song would actually go well with a mod tut?

    And omg mengz! one day until the estimated release date! Btw Kam, if it isn't ready on the due date, feel free to take a break and release it a bit late if you're having a rough time o.o

    You did say it was an estimate after all, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem if you're a day late or something.


    TOO MUCH of a problem?!?
    there will be rioting in the street and many shall be trampled underfoot and stabbed with pens.
    the world could stop turning and a great impact will be made in history.
    In fact the whole pen opining community will be impacted.

    (puns intended)

  127. OmgitzNate
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 00:34:35

    lol my dad has like 2 boxes worth of Uni-ball Gel Impact RT hehe like moving boxes xD

  128. servantofGod
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 02:32:52

    I think its the 16th in japan now. I think.

    Edit: found it
    The current time in Japan is
    11:33 AM
    Saturday, August 16, 2008
    Standard Time +0900 UTC

  129. loonwern93
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 07:50:57

    oh yea its 16th now...
    i cant wait! laugh.gif

  130. matthewk206
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 07:58:22

    This is the most excitement I've had in a while. Waiting for this pen.

    Ooooo. Can't wait.

  131. Missle_Z
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 08:11:03

    It's August 16th...TUT pl0x

  132. okly
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 08:36:14

    isn´t it in usa now about 5 am

  133. Kam
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 10:23:46

    Errr...it's 3am now, so I'm gonna get some sleep and continue working on the tutorial tomorrow.

    It's been a long day...I took a lot of pics, but it takes me about 1 hr to put together one pic for the tutorial, so it's been a slow process.

    I estimate the tutorial is somewhere at 60% done. I may have underestimated the amount of time this tutorial requires. Plus I didn't get much time to work on it during the week. I even took a day off on Wednesday to work on it, but I also had other work and stuff going on...not to mention the distractions at UPSB (like people trying to scam trades, creating multiple accounts, etc.) that kept me from working on the tutorial.

    I will continue working on it this weekend and hope it'll get all done, but one thing is for sure. IF i don't get it done by Sunday night (when I have to go sleep), I'll release whatever I have and fill in the blanks as questions rise (perhaps I'll let TEK help me out on that tongue.gif )

    I do want to ask one favor though...plz STOP speculating on how the mod is made? It's really annoying. I am working hard on the tutorial, then I see some people guesses some parts correctly. Well...good for you...you get NO prize...not even a pat in the back tongue.gif Besides, if you already know how it's made...why am I bothering making a tutorial?

    The truth is, the construction of this mod is just as important as the parts or where they go. Just another hint to what's involved in the tutorial...the mod uses 4 different glues to keep the pen together.

    Bottom line is...as someone pointed, I have not made a promise that the tutorial will be released on the 16th. I gave an estimate. I am trying hard to make that date, but don't get frustrated if you have to wait a bit longer.

  134. dxchsdrgo
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 10:40:47

    4 types of glue.... huh.gif
    i didnt even know there were 4 type (in regard to pen modding)....

    i'm willing to wait
    everyone else should
    its not like we hav to wait another month

  135. Hax0r
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 11:46:27

    Lol everyone's excited for the new mod.

    Maybe tomorrow?

  136. Missle_Z
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 12:02:26

    If it's been this long and it's 60% done, I highly doubt the tut is gonna be out by tomorrow.

  137. jedimage
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 12:16:27

    Oh.... Tomorrow T^T~

    i will waiting for tutorial. ... T^T~

  138. servantofGod
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 13:13:33

    4 glues?!? umm...wow looks like a trip to home depot.
    but seriously isn't one thing of gorilla glue strong enough? lol

  139. nateiskewl
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 16:37:45

    Can't you just make a vague tutorial?

  140. iamk34n3
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 17:16:05

    QUOTE (servantofGod @ Aug 16 2008, 06:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    4 glues?!? umm...wow looks like a trip to home depot.
    but seriously isn't one thing of gorilla glue strong enough? lol


    Naw, I tried making it with just gorilla glue. It didn't turn out so well. dry.gif

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Aug 16 2008, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Can't you just make a vague tutorial?


    Its Kam. wink.gif

  141. iMatt
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 17:19:37

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Aug 16 2008, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Can't you just make a vague tutorial?


    If you follow my Tutorial making guidelines. THAT IS A DUMB IDEA. IF your going to take this much time, might as well make it good idea. Seriously, people have no patients.

    Keep workin at it Kam thumb.gif

  142. CPM8
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 17:25:25

    QUOTE (iMatt @ Aug 16 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If you follow my Tutorial making guidelines. THAT IS A DUMB IDEA. IF your going to take this much time, might as well make it good idea. Seriously, people have no patients.


    Isn't it patience... Also, I would perfer the tutorial to be very thorough, not leaving any questions as to how it's made. If this is going to be a "revolutionary" mod, then it needs a well-made tutorial so that nobody messes up on making it revolutionary. I say just keep delaying releasing the tutorial until it is complete.

  143. hu-man
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 17:40:41

    QUOTE (CPM8 @ Aug 16 2008, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Isn't it patience... Also, I would perfer the tutorial to be very thorough, not leaving any questions as to how it's made. If this is going to be a "revolutionary" mod, then it needs a well-made tutorial so that nobody messes up on making it revolutionary. I say just keep delaying releasing the tutorial until it is complete.

    i agree, since i dont mind waiting.

  144. TEK
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 18:52:50

    those 4 types of glue can be subbed...they are only if you want to go all out with all the features it has.
    other then that you can just use super glue and hot glue

    kam has been working hours and hours on this tutorial..seriously
    and he his job is from 10am-7ish...so he doesn't have any time. dont bash him cuz he didn't reach the deadline
    it will out soon.

  145. BSGfanatic
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 19:48:29

    I don't mind that i have to wait, I am sure that I don't have all the parts for it right now, and it will be a while before I get a chance to get them.

  146. servantofGod
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 22:46:38

    QUOTE (TEK @ Aug 16 2008, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    those 4 types of glue can be subbed...they are only if you want to go all out with all the features it has.
    other then that you can just use super glue and hot glue

    kam has been working hours and hours on this tutorial..seriously
    and he his job is from 10am-7ish...so he doesn't have any time. dont bash him cuz he didn't reach the deadline
    it will out soon.


    only those two? that sounds better, but that thing must be invincible. I see how it could be waterproof now.

  147. Kam
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 23:47:22

    Hmm....been working on the tutorial for probably the last 6 hrs now.

    My camera battery is dead again, so I'm taking a break while it recharges.

    Status update: I'm almost done taking all the shots I need. I think 4 or 5 more and it should be done.

    But that doesn't mean the tutorial is done once that's finished. I still have to bring them to my computer, clean them up, put them together in a logical way, etc.

    Yeah...I probably won't get it all done today...I still gotta go out in a couple hours to do work on another project >_<

    But it could be done tomorrow...or maybe tonight if I don't sleep XD

    oh...looks like I got enough battery...cya

  148. Huroni
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 23:51:14

    Wow. Kam you now inspire me. You try not to let anyone down, even though its uber hard for you. I am going to give you respect points on your page. Im being serious. Wow.

  149. CPM8
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 23:51:26

    yay Kam! Working diligently to further the pen spinning world!

  150. Missle_Z
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 23:55:55

    I'm sincerely not trying to be rude, but why do the pictures take so long? Is it the uploading or the photoshopping to perfection? What is it?

  151. Sankaku
    Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 23:58:14

    QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Aug 16 2008, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm sincerely not trying to be rude, but why do the pictures take so long? Is it the uploading or the photoshopping to perfection? What is it?

    right now, his cam died. dry.gif but i think hes photoshopping the pics too. kam makes everything perfect, and when this tut does come out, im sure it will be awesome

  152. Kam
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 00:16:35

    QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Aug 16 2008, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm sincerely not trying to be rude, but why do the pictures take so long? Is it the uploading or the photoshopping to perfection? What is it?


    It's alright...the pics take long because 1) the tutorial is long, 2) is hard to take pics by myself (sometimes have to set a timer), 3) getting a clean angle and lighting that shows what I'm trying to show can be trick, and of course, 4) a lot of Photoshop work.

    So far I've taken over 160 shots...which will be combined into probably 10 or more pictures.

    hope that clears ur question

  153. p3nsp1nn3r
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 00:25:19

    Wowow, sounds like this tutorial will have quite the impact biggrin.gif

  154. Skye
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 00:33:50

    wow 160 pics O_o
    intense

    gonna be a perfect tutorial : )

  155. Kam
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 00:44:38

    QUOTE (Skye @ Aug 16 2008, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    wow 160 pics O_o
    intense

    gonna be a perfect tutorial : )


    There won't be be that many pics on the tutorial...I just had to take that many because sometimes ur hand is shaking, or u want to try two different angles, etc. I'll try to keep the tutorial short (if possible)

  156. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 00:59:54

    wow...the tutorial must be perfect since it's fully detailed...160 pics..that's hella gonna take along time to take all of those o_O

  157. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 01:18:29

    Wow. A lot of hard work going into a this, I'm a bit surprised yet appreciative. I say Kam should relax a bit, it's just a tut. Nothing to lose sleep over.

  158. servantofGod
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 01:25:21

    will you change this thread to the tutorial or post on a new one?

    lol just the anticipation of this mod has made this thread skyrocket over all other famous pens
    ok...well mx^2 has 10 pages but I bet we could beat that.

    POST YOUR APPRECIATION FOR KAM EVERYONE!!

  159. Loanshark
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 01:35:11

    Woah Kam, if I knew you worked THAT hard on the tutorial, I wouldn't mind if it was going to be released within the next month...

  160. matthewk206
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 07:33:39

    Kam if you don't mind me asking.
    About how long would you say the tutorial is/ is going to be, like say in comparison to a tutorial for the ayatori mod?

  161. Kam
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 09:56:51

    QUOTE (matthewk206 @ Aug 17 2008, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Kam if you don't mind me asking.
    About how long would you say the tutorial is/ is going to be, like say in comparison to a tutorial for the ayatori mod?


    I don't mind you asking, but I haven't really read many pen modding tutorials, so I am not familiar with their length. I do believe the tutorial is long though, because it is a mod that takes a long time to make.

  162. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:07:47

    @Kam:

    is the tut about to be finished? biggrin.gif

  163. Kam
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:47:04

    it's getting there...but not yet. I still got about 2 1/4 images to be done, but it requires taking some more photos, so I'll do that tomorrow when there's more light...it is almost 4am after all XD

    I am starting to get sloppy though. My last image was not as clean as the previous ones >_< But I'm tryint to do what I can to get this released as soon as possible.

    Thanks everyone for their patience.

  164. Anascrash04
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:51:54

    u guys are really annoying
    what if the tut comes out now? u still have to wait before buying the pens the glue and mod materials xD
    so be patient

    remember each question that kam replies to takes 2minute of his time laugh.gif


    Goodluck for it KAM biggrin.gif

  165. tonnam
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 12:33:39

    Kam
    thaispinner are waiting for tutorial of this pen!

  166. Luke
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 12:46:11

    @ TEK:

    can you sub the hot glue for lots of teflon? i dont have access to hot glue guns till schoo; starts and i REALLY dont want to ask my mom to buy me a hot glue gun just for modding....

  167. servantofGod
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 13:30:28

    QUOTE (Luke @ Aug 17 2008, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @ TEK:

    can you sub the hot glue for lots of teflon? i dont have access to hot glue guns till schoo; starts and i REALLY dont want to ask my mom to buy me a hot glue gun just for modding....

    you might be able to get by without it but the pen won't be in optimal condition.

  168. matthewk206
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 15:42:41

    I don't know why, but that's part of the reason I'm looking forward to this mod so much. Cause it is so long, and it's probably going to take a good chunk of time to actually make. I'll feel more accomplished when I do make it then. Like if this mod were to take 2 hours to make, I would feel better about it than if it were a mod that would take 2 minutes to make.

  169. writenamehere
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 15:50:10

    agreed. But if you lose it, that multiplies the pain you would feel blink.gif

  170. matthewk206
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 18:55:48

    QUOTE (writenamehere @ Aug 17 2008, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    agreed. But if you lose it, that multiplies the pain you would feel blink.gif

    I've only lost one pen. And that was because my brother fucking left it in my aunts car that she then sold ]=

    So I thinkI'll be good biggrin.gif

  171. QuestionMark
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 19:29:45

    QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Aug 17 2008, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wow. A lot of hard work going into a this, I'm a bit surprised yet appreciative. I say Kam should relax a bit, it's just a tut. Nothing to lose sleep over.

    I agree.... even though we're waiting for this tutorial, you don't need to over do it...
    anyway, good luck with the Tutorial, and get some sleep =P

  172. dorian_toy
    Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 23:04:03

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Aug 3 2008, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Dude, the only one asking for the tutorial is Kam. Now i dont at all mean to hate against Kam, but seriously if you are going to post a tutorial, do you really need to make a pep rally thread in order to do it? If you arent going to post up a tutorial, no one cares. If you are going to post up a tutorial, just do it. Stop dangling the carrot and getting everyone all peppered up, its lame.

    Ill tell you one thing though Kam, if your mod sucks you're gonna get a lot more crap for it since all these kids are expecting something really awesome. Just 2 cents and i dont mean anything negative towards you. Good luck, i hope the COP is in the middle unlike the MX.


    Yea, I've got to agree with cud. I dont mean to be mean or anything, but seriously most the posts in this topic are just arguments over the parts needed. If not that, just plain admiration for Kam. (Was that what this topic was for? Sucking up to Kam?)
    Sorry if I sound rude or anything, I just wanted to know the true meaning for this topic. >"<





    QUOTE (Anascrash04 @ Aug 17 2008, 03:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    u guys are really annoying
    what if the tut comes out now? u still have to wait before buying the pens the glue and mod materials xD
    so be patient

    remember each question that kam replies to takes 2minute of his time laugh.gif


    Lol. It doesnt matter. He created this poll and hes just going to come back to it to check (when he has time) if there are any new questions so regardless, time is spent not on the tutorial. :]

  173. iamk34n3
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 00:27:46

    QUOTE (dorian_toy @ Aug 17 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yea, I've got to agree with cud. I dont mean to be mean or anything, but seriously most the posts in this topic are just arguments over the parts needed. If not that, just plain admiration for Kam. (Was that what this topic was for? Sucking up to Kam?)
    Sorry if I sound rude or anything, I just wanted to know the true meaning for this topic. >"<


    The whole point of the topic was to see if people actually wanted an Impact MX tutorial. If nobody wanted it, he would just waste time making a tutorial. Speaking of the tutorial, Kam is working very hard on the tutorial right now. I have seen it, and its almost near completion. I can tell he put a lot of time and effort into this so just give him a break.

  174. Tone
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 00:53:42

    QUOTE (dorian_toy @ Aug 17 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yea, I've got to agree with cud. I dont mean to be mean or anything, but seriously most the posts in this topic are just arguments over the parts needed. If not that, just plain admiration for Kam. (Was that what this topic was for? Sucking up to Kam?)
    Sorry if I sound rude or anything, I just wanted to know the true meaning for this topic. >"<


    Kam was one of the first people to recognize pen spinning as a leisure activity and even made a website for it (Pentrix.com)
    He was the creator of the RSVP MX (A very VERY well recognized pen by pen spinners)
    Now he's going beyond by managing Spinz and performing on T.V.
    He is not your regular pen spinner, he's great contributer to the world of pen spinning

    Kam has the RIGHT to post a pre-tutorial topic.

  175. pholord
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 01:33:51

    QUOTE (Tone @ Aug 17 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Kam has the RIGHT to post a pre-tutorial topic.

    QFT
    This thread is not just a poll, its an announcement that Kam was going to release a new pen that would make an impact (srry couldnt resist) on pen spinning.

  176. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 01:42:50

    I don't think a pen held together with glue should make an impact on pen spinning. Commence flaming.

  177. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 01:48:03

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Aug 18 2008, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't think a pen held together with glue should make an impact on pen spinning. Commence flaming.

    qft.
    idk isn't it that super pens makes it more fragile? like when you drop it it has a higher chance of cracking/breaking?

  178. Fripâ„¢
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 01:58:39

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Aug 17 2008, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't think a pen held together with glue should make an impact on pen spinning. Commence flaming.


    I can't agree more dunno.gif 4 types of glue...come on. That's ridiculous.

  179. CaliMartinio
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 02:12:37

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Aug 17 2008, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't think a pen held together with glue should make an impact on pen spinning. Commence flaming.


    Where does it say that it's held together by glue? (Can't find it)

  180. Kam
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 02:28:03

    QUOTE (Fripâ„¢ @ Aug 17 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I can't agree more dunno.gif 4 types of glue...come on. That's ridiculous.


    Agreed...but I never said this was not a ridiculous pen tongue.gif

    But I never said it's held entirely together by glue. I just said it uses 4 different types of glues. People just like to jump to conclusions on their own ^^

  181. matthewk206
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 02:37:32

    I wonder if one of the glues is used to waterproof it.
    Like if you were to put hot glue in the tip, it's much different than if you were to put super glue in the tip.
    I don't know.
    Just a thought.

  182. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 02:38:39

    I had the opportunity to have a real good look/test-spin of the pen and I must its really good. It still has the same feel as the original RSVP MX but it's got a lot more momentum.

    I don't think the modding process will be as complex as it sounds, since NoRice4U basically modded one "live" at the gathering in ~15-20 minutes. Granted, it was a botched up version so I'm sure there will be some "optional" steps.

  183. dorian_toy
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 03:23:42

    QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Aug 17 2008, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The whole point of the topic was to see if people actually wanted an Impact MX tutorial. If nobody wanted it, he would just waste time making a tutorial. Speaking of the tutorial, Kam is working very hard on the tutorial right now. I have seen it, and its almost near completion. I can tell he put a lot of time and effort into this so just give him a break.


    Wow... So the first comments for the Impact MX on the 'show off your pens' thread weren't enough? I still don't get it. You completely ignored my question as to WHY this poll is up. There were enough yes's for a tutorial on the 'show off your pens' thread. I think I've been around enough to see noobs posting tutorials even though they weren't wanted, yet they weren't deleted. It's not like their efforts weren't 'wasted'. And as Tone says, he seems pretty well known, so why would a tutorial from him ever be considered 'wasted' anyways? To even think that his efforts would be wasted is kind of daring for a fan like you. It's kind of obvious ANY tutorial from Kam would never be considered 'a waste of time'. And I never said he wasnt working very hard. I know hes working very hard. He's been working on it for three weeks; three weeks possibly increasing soon.





    QUOTE (Tone @ Aug 17 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Kam was one of the first people to recognize pen spinning as a leisure activity and even made a website for it (Pentrix.com)
    He was the creator of the RSVP MX (A very VERY well recognized pen by pen spinners)
    Now he's going beyond by managing Spinz and performing on T.V.
    He is not your regular pen spinner, he's great contributer to the world of pen spinning

    Kam has the RIGHT to post a pre-tutorial topic.


    And I didn't even know there was such thing as a 'pre-tutorial topic' so I'm sorry. I never knew such a thing existed. Since you seem to know what 'pre-tutorial topics' are, can you tell me what their purpose is?

  184. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 03:27:47

    who cares, kam is a special person, he can announce things in a special way if he wants to. JEB makes a whole website dedicated to ONE VERSION of their annual collab which is not released yet, so why can't kam make a pre-tutorial topic.

    i personally don't think this thread is a good idea because it's more of a "hype" thread, and usually things that get hyped disappoint :/ no offense kam the mod is very good, it's just getting too much hype now.

  185. dorian_toy
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 03:38:30

    QUOTE (Zombo @ Aug 17 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    who cares, kam is a special person, he can announce things in a special way if he wants to. JEB makes a whole website dedicated to ONE VERSION of their annual collab which is not released yet, so why can't kam make a pre-tutorial topic.

    i personally don't think this thread is a good idea because it's more of a "hype" thread, and usually things that get hyped disappoint :/ no offense kam the mod is very good, it's just getting too much hype now.



    I understand he's a special person, but seriously, there was no point in making a pre-tutorial topic. @_@ Especially when everyone in the topic just argue about how it's made. In my opinion, this topic is only useful towards his FAQ for the tutorial. (whenever it comes)
    And yes, hypes are not good. They could lead to countless expectations from people which may hurt, if not met; basically, putting pressure on Kam.

  186. Kam
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 03:41:28

    No offense taken, I really didn't expect this much discussion about this mod before it was even released. But if I were to spend over 30 hrs of my time into a tutorial, I needed more than half a dozen enthusiastic yes on the other thread.

    I'm sorry if some of you feel that I'm just out to get attention or hype myself up. That was certainly not my intention.

    The tutorial is 95% done, with the only portion missing being the section on how to cut and use the insert (and no, I'm not implying people are stupid and can't figure that out...there are just other steps that I have not seen many people do it).

    However, as I don't believe anyone have all the parts laying around at home, I'll release the tutorial first, and update it with the insert section once that's up. This should give everyone time to get the parts and clarify questions while I work on the insert.

    *goes to get tutorial up*

  187. dorian_toy
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 03:46:25

    Cool, cool. Sorry if I sounded harsh.
    Congrats on completing it!

  188. Clyde Cazeñas
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 03:51:25

    YEY 95 % ALREADY *waits while eating noodles*

  189. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 04:03:47

    QUOTE (dorian_toy @ Aug 17 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I understand he's a special person, but seriously, there was no point in making a pre-tutorial topic. @_@ Especially when everyone in the topic just argue about how it's made. In my opinion, this topic is only useful towards his FAQ for the tutorial. (whenever it comes)
    And yes, hypes are not good. They could lead to countless expectations from people which may hurt, if not met; basically, putting pressure on Kam.


    thats not necessarily a bad thing. it's always fun to speculate... in sports, that's almost the bulk of all the discussions... so why not have a little of it here... we get the same thing during big tournaments too... (predicting who will win, etc.)

  190. Shadowserpant
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 04:27:10

    at dorian toy, this topic is well justified because, as they've said, Kam is Kam, and knowing Kam, Kam wants absolute perfection before he releases something. He probably could've made an RSVP V16 by now, but instead he chose to make the MX, and now he's making this. His momentum MX wasn't even released because he didn't think it was worthy to be released (or something like that). All this thread shows is the great and utmost care that Kam puts into his mods, and just how much he contributes to this community.

  191. dorian_toy
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 04:32:12

    QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Aug 17 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    at dorian toy, this topic is well justified because, as they've said, Kam is Kam, and knowing Kam, Kam wants absolute perfection before he releases something. He probably could've made an RSVP V16 by now, but instead he chose to make the MX, and now he's making this. His momentum MX wasn't even released because he didn't think it was worthy to be released (or something like that). All this thread shows is the great and utmost care that Kam puts into his mods, and just how much he contributes to this community.



    Lmao. Absolute perfection? So are you saying to achieve absolute perfection, it is mandatory to make a pre-tutorial topic? Or does it mean getting everyone to vote 'yes'? Because 5 no's and 10 I don't care's don't seem very perfect to me. xD

  192. iamk34n3
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 04:36:29

    QUOTE (dorian_toy @ Aug 17 2008, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Lmao. Absolute perfection? So are you saying to achieve absolute perfection, it is mandatory to make a pre-tutorial topic? Or does it mean getting everyone to vote 'yes'? Because 5 no's and 10 I don't care's don't seem very perfect to me. xD


    Neither. You just assumed that on your own. I don't even know why you care so much that he made a pre-tutorial thread.

  193. matthewk206
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 04:38:37

    QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Aug 17 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Neither. You just assumed that on your own. I don't even know why you care so much that he made a pre-tutorial thread.

    Yeah.
    If it's that he can make one with out the mods taking it down. It's cause he is a special member.
    He basically popularized pen spinning.

  194. Shadowserpant
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 04:38:57

    There'll always be some people who vote no for stupid reasons that having nothing to do with how good the mod is. Some people said they voted no because they didn't like that it was heavy. Ok? It's supposed to be heavy. He's making it to be heavy. Some people flat out said they voted no because they thought this thread was unneccesary. Anyway, the main point of my post is that by making this thread, the only thing Kam is guilty of it not wanting to give us crappy mods.

  195. pholord
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 04:44:15

    this thread still has a lot more purpose than many so called "tutorials" Ive seen in this section. This thread will be replaced by a new one soon anyways.

    BTW i voted no xd.gif

  196. Kam
    Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 05:03:42

    I think pholord told me he voted no because he didn't want the mod to be wide spread, lol

    Anyways, the tutorial is out. I don't see a point for this thread anymore

    Impact MX Tutorial link