UPSB v3

General Discussion / Did anyone see the 'discussion' in shoutbox?

A little while ago...

Mats
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 12:19:27

This was all compiled by Walkingjacket. Big thanks to him!

Oh and umm REMEMBER TO READ FROM THE BOTTOM

QUOTE (shoutbox)
Read from bottom to top, of course.

And here it is!:

34 minutes ago
WhiteFang
as much as you complain about korean judges, they'd complain about upsb judges

34 minutes ago
riverboy
and I don't know what it is

34 minutes ago
riverboy
I did it like 2 times

35 minutes ago
Mats
It doesn't matter what you think is better or worse in a combo, you look at each aspect on it's own and then score it. Forget what you think is good or bad personally.

35 minutes ago
Huroni
hi isatnaf

36 minutes ago
Mats
The idea was to score on smoothness/speed, style/difficulty/creativity all out of 10.

36 minutes ago
Clyde CazeÃ±as
twisted sonic 23-12-->reverse shadow 12-12 is impossible, possible but with pause before doing rev shadow

36 minutes ago
Ralys
huh? i don't understand you, riverboy

36 minutes ago
isatnaf
hi huroni

36 minutes ago
Clyde CazeÃ±as
That's impossible to do without pause before doing shadow rev.

36 minutes ago
WhiteFang
but then again Mats, every board have their own point of view of 'good combo' Koreans are smoothness + difficulty while westerns are creativity

37 minutes ago
riverboy
is there a trick twisted 3-2--2-1 --> reverse shadow?

37 minutes ago
Huroni
yo yo yo sup

37 minutes ago
Mats
Yeah they revealed judges in GPC tourney and it was all very BAD. A lot of people complained A LOT.

38 minutes ago
Mats
haha yeah but 32/33 small difference. Any score over 30 was one of the best of each round. wink.gif

38 minutes ago
WhiteFang
CrAsH should just reveal the judges

39 minutes ago
Mats
I really think a lot of the judges were not very good though and that has to change this time around. People were throwing at 9s and 10s really too easily sometimes and marking people down too much too. An combo that's PERFECT smoothness but has one, tiny mistake is worth about 7 on smoothness in my book, for Korean judges, it's worth like 3-4

40 minutes ago
WhiteFang
hahahahahahahahaha

41 minutes ago
Ralys
9 + 9 + 9 + 5 is actually 32. lol

41 minutes ago
Mats
9 + 9 + 9 + 5 = 33 average score. 33 was often the score of the best spinner in each round.

42 minutes ago
Mats
It just seems judges don't score his combos right. I scored his combos in the WT mentally and they were wroth like 9/9/9/5 typically.

42 minutes ago
WhiteFang
perfect**

42 minutes ago
WhiteFang
and if you see something perfect alot they all look the same because they are perfect.

42 minutes ago
isatnaf
hello all

42 minutes ago
WhiteFang
i swear.. IMO noone matches his pen spinning ability. but thats the downfall. you see his combos. REALLY FAST + REALLY SMOOTH + REALLY DIFFICULT + DISTINTIVE STYLE = Perpect.

43 minutes ago
Clyde CazeÃ±as
Yes. I hate the fucking flamers saying "Eriror your combos look the same..don't you have new stuff? biggrin.gif" some bullshit like that pissess me off too, which lead to Eriror quitting ps dry.gif sad.gif

43 minutes ago
Ralys
who battled TNC?

44 minutes ago
Mats
umm he should have won the world tournament. In the world cup both him and ChauTran should have definately won their battles that they 'lost'. I have no idea what happeened there. confusedsmilie.gif

44 minutes ago
WhiteFang
i think he should've won in vs Toro

44 minutes ago
WhiteFang
whats the last time? WT or WC?

44 minutes ago
lovepen
who can do my friend?

44 minutes ago
Ralys
thanks mats found it wink.gif

45 minutes ago
Mats
hmm WhiteFang, I think he should have won last time. I think if the judges are right he has the best chances. I've seen him do the most crazy things, like Cont Indexaround 14-14 x2 =0

45 minutes ago
Mats
Bai bai lovepen wave.gif

45 minutes ago
lovepen
wow!goodbye!l go to eat dinner!xD

46 minutes ago
WhiteFang
hmmm.. maybe Erirornal. i think he'll make the best video but not win. people expects to much from him..

46 minutes ago
Mats
"The second sequence is an extension of the unofficially-named "Neo-Bak Combo", which could also be considered as a "Neo-bak Fall" "

47 minutes ago
Mats
@Ralys: nhk site correct page - Go to the video 'new combos at the Troposphere'

47 minutes ago
WhiteFang
heyy Sweet

47 minutes ago
Sweet
Hey Ralys!

47 minutes ago
Sweet
Hey WhiteFang! smile.gif

47 minutes ago
Mats
Not Erirornal?

48 minutes ago
Ralys
hello sweet smile.gif

48 minutes ago
WhiteFang
well.. my list of potential winners are frat, vic, KTH, Saizen

48 minutes ago
Ralys
yeah riverboy, you have

48 minutes ago
Mats
Nagi hmm fairly recently, a couple months ago. KTH hmm I'm not sure.

48 minutes ago
Sweet
Heyy guys.'

48 minutes ago
riverboy
so I have to practice more...... tongue.gif

48 minutes ago
Ralys
i hate my shouts being eated -.-

48 minutes ago
lovepen
kinda???

49 minutes ago
Mats
Yes, she is. 'She' kinda gives that away no?

49 minutes ago
Clyde CazeÃ±as
wtf no

49 minutes ago
lovepen
mats she is girl??

49 minutes ago
WhiteFang
riverboy, because you haven't practiced enough

50 minutes ago
riverboy
guys.... how come i CAN do the sonic but not the rev?

50 minutes ago
WhiteFang
and when was the last time you show nagi, KTH spin? how do you know they didn't improve?

50 minutes ago
Mats
@lovepen umm LotusWing is and she will be here umm any minute I guess.

51 minutes ago
Mats
Impressive yes, but I was only talking about potential winners wink.gif

51 minutes ago
lovepen
whoooo is girl???????????????xD

51 minutes ago
WhiteFang
who made the error? even if KTH won only because of the error. he still would've came 2nd. Impressive?

51 minutes ago
Clyde CazeÃ±as
wtf Dragonforce does suck live

52 minutes ago
Ralys
but i added it to my fav spinners list happy.gif now my most favourite spinnersa are both nhk and kirua happy.gif

52 minutes ago
Mats
I'll find the video for ya wink.gif

52 minutes ago
Ralys
Mats: and i still cant' find nhk doing neobakfall sad.gif

52 minutes ago
lovepen
ohh~

52 minutes ago
Mats
nhk_9 happy.gif

53 minutes ago
lovepen
who is your penspin idol??

53 minutes ago
Mats
KTH won the final last time due to a large error by one judge. This time he won't win. He doesn't seem to have improved much while everyone around him improved A LOT.

53 minutes ago
Ralys
he was not worth i think sad.gif

53 minutes ago
WhiteFang
well.. you seem to hate KTH and not acknowlegde him when he did win the WT

54 minutes ago
Mats
To actually win the tournament: Erirornal Kraione, Nagi, Fratleym, Nory, Saizen. hmm. I'm sure it will be one of these.

54 minutes ago
Dongza5047
hai

55 minutes ago
Mats
Out of that list I would say Nagi (most ofall), Nory and Saizen have chances to win.

55 minutes ago
walkingjacket
angmaramyon-a and kUzu?

55 minutes ago
lovepen
kaka

56 minutes ago
WhiteFang
yes. i'm sure

56 minutes ago
WhiteFang
KTH, Seven, Taeryong, (bonkura), nory, TNC, Saizen, Kuzku?, Toro, AgamroanA?, Nanna, Nagi, SkyDigital, ryo,

56 minutes ago
Mats
I bet you WhiteFang, that Europe makes a very good showing. I think Asia and Europe will dominate the fuck outta this tournament leaving North America in the dust.

57 minutes ago
lovepen
x1213

58 minutes ago
Anascrash04
s777? forgot/??

58 minutes ago
Clyde CazeÃ±as
Eriror is the best

58 minutes ago
Mats
In the last world tournament 3 of the 5 finalist were from Europe (Banz, erirornal, Fratleym)

59 minutes ago
Mats
WhiteFang -> Erirornal Kraione, Fratleym, sfsr, Minwoo, Kirua. Are you sure? wink.gif

59 minutes ago
lovepen
..=.=

59 minutes ago
WhiteFang
takes off his hat to greet lovepen

Yesterday, 11:44 PM
Mats
*takes off his hat to greet lovepen*

Yesterday, 11:43 PM
WhiteFang
well.. Europe is a domninant continent of soccer/football. but its not in penspinning wise.

Yesterday, 11:43 PM
lovepen
hi~all

Yesterday, 11:40 PM
Mats
Which is what will happen, since Europe has the most forums. However, each team in the FIFA world cup can only bring a certain number of players (I think 21) and the same here, each forum can only bring 4 spinners.

Yesterday, 11:40 PM
riverboy
guys... why is it that the videos here are from KPSA?

Yesterday, 11:39 PM
Mats
Europe is sending more teams, this could be likened to Europe sending more forums in the pen spinning world cup.

Yesterday, 11:39 PM
WhiteFang
then we should have qualification

Yesterday, 11:38 PM
WhiteFang
Europe sends way more teams in because they are better which makes the whole WC much more interesting to watch

Yesterday, 11:38 PM
Mats
FIFA's world cup uses qualification tournaments in each continent to decide which countries go through.

Yesterday, 11:38 PM
WhiteFang
well.. it should be more like Fifa WC then..

Yesterday, 11:37 PM
Mats
And WhiteFang, it's kind of like in the Olympics... In tennis or something like that it's an individual sport but each country has a limit on how many players they can send.

Yesterday, 11:37 PM
Ralys
back

Yesterday, 11:36 PM
Mats
They are uploaded to Alex Simpson's (aka CrAsH's) website.

Yesterday, 11:35 PM
WhiteFang
yea. i know its not about teams. but that goes back to my first point. 8 new board = less SUPER SKILLED spinners from stronger board

Yesterday, 11:35 PM
riverboy
like in youtube or somethin'?

Yesterday, 11:34 PM
Mats
That is right riverboy.

Yesterday, 11:34 PM
June
guess so

Yesterday, 11:33 PM
riverboy
the wt's will be in the internet right?
?
Yesterday, 11:33 PM
riverboy
the wt's will be in the internet right?

Yesterday, 11:33 PM
Mats
It's an individual tournament.

Yesterday, 11:33 PM
Clyde CazeÃ±as
lol

Yesterday, 11:33 PM
Mats
Whitefang, it's not about teams anyway...

Yesterday, 11:31 PM
WhiteFang
o yea.. and PDS and KPSA shouldn't compete in a separate team

Yesterday, 11:31 PM
Mats
FPSB's best candidate is Fratleym and he surely has a chance to win the whole tournament.

Yesterday, 11:28 PM
WhiteFang
+ brazillian. (don't know if they are competing though)

Yesterday, 11:27 PM
Anascrash04
FPSB is strong too

Yesterday, 11:27 PM
WhiteFang
BPST

Yesterday, 11:27 PM
Clyde CazeÃ±as
wait 2 more years and I'm already the next Eriror.

Yesterday, 11:27 PM
Mats
Who = which forums are competing you never heard of?

Yesterday, 11:27 PM
Mats
Such as who Whitefang?

Yesterday, 11:27 PM
riverboy
WF:thats true
WF:thats true
Yesterday, 11:26 PM
WhiteFang
and yes. maybe they have 1~2 'world class' spinners. but their best spinner wont stand a chance against Jeb's 10th best spinner

Yesterday, 11:26 PM
Mats
Depends is MYPSC compete dunno.gif
Depends is MYPSC compete dunno.gif
Yesterday, 11:26 PM
WhiteFang
and.. maybe UPSB doesn't have much world class spinners. but at least everyone knows about UPSB. theres boards that is participating that i've never even heard of

Yesterday, 11:24 PM
Clyde CazeÃ±as
hehehe...

Yesterday, 11:23 PM
Anascrash04
yeah and TEK is also very good, but Ellusion67 its for MPSC < malaysian

Yesterday, 11:23 PM
WhiteFang
me personally not a great fan of toast.. but zombo seemed to like his style

Yesterday, 11:23 PM
Mats
Scott doesn't spin competively anymore, toast is nowhere near the standard. Dathroat I don't think will do well.

Yesterday, 11:23 PM
riverboy
wow!.. I hope UPSB wins! biggrin.gif

Yesterday, 11:22 PM
Mats
oooh or maybe Vicgotgame.

Yesterday, 11:22 PM
WhiteFang
Eriror,vicgotgame,TNC, toast

Yesterday, 11:22 PM
Mats
@Walkingjacket - They are having a tournament to decide as far as I know, but I would suggest it will be Erirornal Kraione, ChauTran, Ellusion and hmm perhaps Pholord or Eso.

Yesterday, 11:22 PM
walkingjacket
UPSB - Universal Pen Spinning Board, FPSB - French Pen Spinning Board, KPSA - Korean Pen Spinning Association - JEB - JapEn Board

Yesterday, 11:22 PM
Anascrash04
eriror dathroat vicgotgame and scott

Yesterday, 11:21 PM
Mats
You make it sound like UPSB is one of the best forums in terms of skill, but I'm not even sure that UPSB can put out 3 world class spinners.

Yesterday, 11:21 PM
riverboy
****stand

Yesterday, 11:21 PM
riverboy
what do those satnd for?

Yesterday, 11:21 PM
walkingjacket
Which spinners from UPSB do you think would be participating?

Yesterday, 11:20 PM
riverboy
***UPSB

Yesterday, 11:20 PM
riverboy
QPSB.FPSB,JEB,KPSA?

Yesterday, 11:19 PM
WhiteFang
thats not cool

Yesterday, 11:19 PM
WhiteFang
only 4 spinners from UPSB, FPSB, JEB, KPSA,

Yesterday, 11:19 PM
Clyde CazeÃ±as
lol

Yesterday, 11:18 PM
Mats
Why is that 'gay' WhiteFang? (and there are some boards not compteting btw)

Yesterday, 11:17 PM
WhiteFang
next year's WT is going to be gay imo. with all the 16 boards and 4 spinners each..

Yesterday, 11:17 PM
Mats
Bonkura is perhaps the best collab spinner, but in battles, although he was world class, he was not the best.

Yesterday, 11:17 PM
Clyde CazeÃ±as
well imo Eriror= best pser in the world

Yesterday, 11:16 PM
WhiteFang
may be*

Yesterday, 11:16 PM
Clyde CazeÃ±as
but isn't it obvious that bonkura is better than Eriror o_O

Yesterday, 11:16 PM
WhiteFang
but KTH is still better.

Yesterday, 11:16 PM
WhiteFang
Bonkura maybe visually more appealing..

Yesterday, 11:15 PM
WhiteFang
apparently not. Bonkura = creativity. KTH = smooth, style, difficulty

Yesterday, 11:15 PM
Mats
Bonkura lost to Erirornal Kraione in the world tournament.

Yesterday, 11:14 PM
riverboy
that was for mats

Yesterday, 11:14 PM
Clyde CazeÃ±as
WT doesn't prove anything =/ bonkura is tons more better than KTH.

Yesterday, 11:14 PM
riverboy
okay! tongue.gif

Yesterday, 11:14 PM
WhiteFang
I'M THE BEST SPINNER IN THE WORLD!!! MWAHAHAHAHA

Yesterday, 11:14 PM
Mats
People will have different views on that riverboy, wait until the world tournament early next year wink.gif

Yesterday, 11:14 PM
Clyde CazeÃ±as
PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

Yesterday, 11:13 PM
riverboy
who's the best pen spinner in the world?
WhiteFang
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 12:29:37

wheres the rest of it?
Zombo
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 16:29:57

i dunno anymore cuz Crash wrote this on FPSB about 2 weeks ago:

QUOTE
Salut,

Dsl que j'qi pqs poste depuis un moment, j'etais en france pendant quelque semqaines.

16 forums pour wt09 ces beaucoup trop beaucoup a mon avis, je pense que je vais essayer a faire un truc de qualifications pour les tops 8 teams qui participeras au wt09. 8 forums, veut dire 8 participant par forum.

Je vais commence les qualifications bientot.

Bonne journee

QUOTE
Hi,

Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I was in France for a few weeks.

16 forums for the WT09 is a lot IMO, I think I will try to do some qualifications for the top 8 teams that will participate in the WT09. 8 forums = 8 participants per forum.

I will start the qualifs soon.

Good

Makes no sense IMO... you're qualifying spinners not boards... so I have no idea what he's trying to do. I haven't been able to reach him.
roast
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 18:09:20

Generally the better spinners have been around for awhile and have become accustomed to one board.

I'm sure all of the best spinners come from within 8 boards.

Also, Alex needs to make sure spinners must only represent one board. For example, it would be silly to say if Banz was not good enough for the FPSB team he could come to UPSB to enter because our skill is inferior.
Look Into the Sun
Date: Thu, Jul 31 2008 18:12:47

Well that was a long read but I'll say simply, I agree with what Mats as said most of the time.

And 8 members from upsb? Do we have that many elite spinners good enough for the WT?