UPSB v3
Philosophy / PS in Olympics!
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 11:00:07
What if PS was in olympics....Could it ever go in? If so would people consider it cool or lame? Drop in your opinion..
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 12:31:41
It would be just another domain for the Korean or China to get a gold medal
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 12:39:03
Table tennis (the euphamistic word for ping-pong) is an Olympic event....why not pen spinning?
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 13:24:21
Yes I think that it is possible but I doubt that it will happen anytime soon with so many established sports unable to get in even though they have groups set up trying to get them in.
I think that it will be cool to spinners and more people but I'm sure some people will think that it is lame.
Imagine the type of specially made pens that would be developed for spinning if this was an olympic sport. -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 13:55:11
LOL, thats hard.
Many sports require much physical exhaustion like swimming, soccer, hockey even weightlifting
Some like shooting, archery require some too
But penspinning though attention-grabbing only involves movements of hands -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 14:13:04
if tha formal horse-riding thingy can be one
y not penspinning? -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 14:45:28
not gonna happen. There are table tennis academies all over the world and many live tournaments held and is a lot more popular than most think. And horse racing has been going on for hundreds of years. cant say the same for psing
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 17:50:31
Well....you never know...
i had the same thought when i heard there was BMX in the olympics....
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 18:02:13
That would be pretty cool if it was in but I highly doubt that its gonna happen. Its not popular enough and it won't be for quite a while if at all.
It would be pretty cool though if they have different events like number of finger passes in a minute or how many bakfalls you can do without dropping your pen and stuff like that. -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 18:31:14
heh even though in theory its enough of a spectator sport and has all the technicalities and judging of an olympic sport, all the sports in the olympics require strenuous activity.
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 19:13:19
It would lose enjoyment, because judging is subjective thing, and if it would be on Olympics, judges would have to give points for that, define difficulty of tricks.
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:46:32QUOTE (Krasnal @ Aug 13 2008, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It would lose enjoyment, because judging is subjective thing, and if it would be on Olympics, judges would have to give points for that, define difficulty of tricks.
/signed
it will never be an olympic sport, just because its not a sport.
its just a hobby imo. -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 23:38:30
Hm, from my point of view, there would be too much ppl spinning for fame and medals rather than the "spirit" that hobby-spinners have.
It would become an excuse to increase the price of pens used for mods. -
Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 05:10:45
its possible, but you would need some good rules to make it work which will make it diverge from real pen spinning.
it's like "olympic judo" and judo, the martial art itself. -
Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 05:33:54
If penspinning gets into the olympics, next thing you know speed cubing is an event too.
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Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 06:17:28
live battles? ewww
i prefer perfected videos
but still would be awesome if it happened -
Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 09:55:23
Well in my opinion, before psing is able to get into the olympics, it must 1st be able to get in some "smaller" games. Like SEAgames, Asian games etc. Olympic is too big a thing for psing as of now. It is not THAT popular yet.
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Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 10:04:55
@up
That's what I'm talking about. And it would be added to X-Games, i think. -
Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 11:22:12
yea.. live battles would be bad..it should be a little different from the PS we do and i guess table tennis and horse riding are more popular and considered as proper sports thats why they are in...
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Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 15:49:15
hey guys, i was thinking that we can actually hold an olympics for manupilative arts. If we got all the people who do manupilative arts... : such as: pen spinning, poi, glowstringing, speed cubing, hacky sacking?. etc etc. and split all the people into their own countries... i think it might work?
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Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 23:35:52
there was a ps olympics on ucpsb.... in 2006
and i don't think it will be an olympic sport anytime soon, but it could be possible in the future if the penspinning world will become more famous than ever
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 01:39:20QUOTEhey guys, i was thinking that we can actually hold an olympics for manupilative arts. If we got all the people who do manupilative arts... : such as: pen spinning, poi, glowstringing, speed cubing, hacky sacking?. etc etc. and split all the people into their own countries... i think it might work?
That would be really cool. It would be fun to watch and stuff but i don't think it would happen too soon and live events for some of these things wouldn't be too good. People want to see a clean/perfected presentation rather than watch you practice. -
Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 01:51:56
That would be a lil tougher than u think ^^
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 02:53:19
well i ment just keep it on youtube style for now. sorta done for fun
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 10:40:37QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Aug 15 2008, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well i ment just keep it on youtube style for now. sorta done for fun
Well this is interesting. Perhaps a name change? MAgames? Manipulative Arts games. o_O -
Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 12:02:04QUOTE (Krasnal @ Aug 14 2008, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@up
That's what I'm talking about. And it would be added to X-Games, i think.
I don think so. -
Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 12:09:32QUOTE (Slash @ Aug 15 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don think so.
why not...there are possibillities.
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 14:25:14QUOTE (Outsmash @ Aug 15 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why not...there are possibillities.
Dude Olympics and X- Games are too much for pen spinning. Its not that great that it could get in big leagues like that. no1 would wanna watch 2 guys spin live. It would bore lots of people cuz they just see a pen spin on all fingers. They wont kno what we're doin. it would be lame for the rest of the world. -
Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 19:45:42
x games are for extreme sports and psing dose not under that category
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Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 15:01:29QUOTE (writenamehere @ Aug 16 2008, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>x games are for extreme sports and psing dose not under that category
True, but it can come in some tournaments. -
Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 15:05:28
Well.... I don't think we'll see PS in the olympics... maybe in the far future, but not now.
to be honest, I think PS should kinda stay as a hobby- like thing. I mean, Live tournaments would be awesome things, and I wish we could have international live tournaments one day. or at least small ones for now... and of course online tournaments like now...
But it just won't fit the olympics IMO....
I hope you understood my thoughts, kinda hard for me to try and express it in English >_<" -
Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 22:09:44
lol! just think, If it was an actual Olympic sport, China would give a good 20 million of its 30 billion in gold medal funding towards training pen spinners lolz....
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Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 13:23:12QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Aug 17 2008, 06:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol! just think, If it was an actual Olympic sport, China would give a good 20 million of its 30 billion in gold medal funding towards training pen spinners lolz....
And we'd have pilot, zebra and various stationery manufacturers to sponsor us. XD -
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 14:19:50
Well, if it is that far... pen manufacturers will surely produce fine-tuned design for spinning
For PS to participate the Olympics?? I don't think so in the near future. but further? who knows~ -
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 10:45:18QUOTE (Kiras @ Aug 17 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, if it is that far... pen manufacturers will surely produce fine-tuned design for spinning
For PS to participate the Olympics?? I don't think so in the near future. but further? who knows~
In the near future, no........further too not many chances. Well I asked a lot of people...they laugh and then they go "oh, you were serious!!Welll then, I think no way!"
I dont think PS is or will be that big to get into Olympics. If PSers increase by a lot in the coming years and it becomes an "almost" world known sport/hobby, then it "may" get in.. -
Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 09:18:55
PS in olympics? Cool..
Commentator for Pen Spinning category:
Oh look! It's Eriror and KTH going head to head... LIVE!
I heard they were battling together last time during the world tornament but now we see them again. Who will get the gold.. who will get silver..
Oh no! A pen has dropped and the crowd goes wild for the other spinner..
Both of them are so fast I can't really see what they're doing but I think those judges and their proffesional eyes can see what's going on!
*Moves to interview Judge*
Commentator: So who do you think is gonna win
Judge: Can't see a thing really, I'll just go for whoever's the fastest
Commentator:
Well, there you have it, straight from the best judge himself!
Those were nice freestyles men.. now.. what are the names of the pen mods they're using again?
Lololololol... -
Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 20:57:14
Japan would just win the medals.
Like how USA always win baseball, so they excluded baseball until now. -
Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 21:12:55QUOTE (Cybrax @ Aug 19 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Japan would just win the medals.
Like how USA always win baseball, so they excluded baseball until now.
We rarely ever win Olympic baseball. Only A-AAA players play in the Olympics, that's why we never win. -
Date: Thu, Aug 21 2008 16:33:14
Not a chance.
There'd be far too many rules and far too many competitors.
More than likely if it did theoretically happen, it would be judged like any other competitive event. A designated trick-set that must be fufilled within a combo
You need to have a 10 judge system or something.
Each one juding
1.) Smoothness
2.) Arounds
3.) Aerials
4.) Stalls
5.) Passes
6.) Difficulty
...etc etc..
The other part would be, in order to make it an even playing field, There would have to be DESIGNATED pens a person uses. Length depending on the size of the hand. Then there would be banned mods and all pens had to be inspected to exact detail to show for no modification.
all in all its just a large fricken hassle -
Date: Thu, Aug 21 2008 16:53:17
i think its more like
spinners have to hand in their breakdown beforehand, and it gets attributed a degree for difficulty and originiality.
then the spinner tries to execute combo
the "A" judges decide whether or not the degree of difficulty was valid (breakdown respected and any original element really original) or it must be reduced.
the "B" judges evaluate execution, smoothness, etc. and give grade on 10.
Add two together, just like in gymnastics. -
Date: Thu, Aug 21 2008 17:21:17QUOTE (Zombo @ Aug 21 2008, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think its more like
spinners have to hand in their breakdown beforehand, and it gets attributed a degree for difficulty and originiality.
then the spinner tries to execute combo
the "A" judges decide whether or not the degree of difficulty was valid (breakdown respected and any original element really original) or it must be reduced.
the "B" judges evaluate execution, smoothness, etc. and give grade on 10.
Add two together, just like in gymnastics.
Isn't that how they do diving? Because I was watching it the other day and the announcers knew what the athletes were going to do even before they stepped onto the diving platform. -
Date: Thu, Aug 21 2008 17:24:38
yes, but in diving the execution is multiplied by the degree, not added like in gym
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Date: Fri, Aug 22 2008 20:20:25
PS in Olymipics?! not gonna happen
maybe if they all had the same combo, or ,as zombo said, to hand combos beforehand and maybe to do judge's combo. like you get one handed to them and one they tell you to do (maybe that one could be the same for all) and that would be like freestyle
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Date: Wed, Aug 27 2008 15:28:53
they shouldnt do it live probably..they should give in the videos and show it on t.v. or something. And hey should announce the winner in the stadium showing all his videos..(just an idea).. It wouldnt get in anyway..as much as i know there are far more better sports people consider to be in the olympics rather than penspinning, yet it would be really nice.
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 15:40:58
if ps were in olympics, how would you determine who is the winner and who is the loser?
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 20:51:28
Same way they judge the gymnastics, different tricks, and overall, combos, free styles, etc. or buy paying the judge the most money - _ -...
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Date: Tue, Sep 30 2008 23:26:40
I doubt that pen spinning would become an event in the Olympics, mainly because that it's not really an athletic sport.
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Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 03:32:24
not YET I can see penspinning becoming a full body sport one day ;D
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Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 18:50:36
i think we a need to make a good video and send it to all the major news stations of the world. who knows? free publicity...
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Date: Mon, Oct 6 2008 00:04:12
not gonna make it...
it'd be a waste of money to send spinners to one location when you can send the vids online -
Date: Mon, Oct 6 2008 05:44:06QUOTE (hoiboy909 @ Oct 6 2008, 06:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>not gonna make it...
it'd be a waste of money to send spinners to one location when you can send the vids online
yea i kno...it could be in like some part of Olympics where the judges get the video and it gets broadcasted on TV for the world to see and the judges decision will be announced after that.. pretty lame but who knows... -
Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 15:58:00QUOTE (DamonX @ Aug 13 2008, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It would be just another domain for the Korean or China to get a gold medal
Maybe The Japanese....If That Happened And Bonkura Was In... -
Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 16:05:54
If PS goes into the Olympics, it would literally become a sport. I wouldn't say its impossible but it will be at least a decade later before they(the Olympics organisers) even think of implementing PS into 1 of the Olympics games.
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Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 16:26:52
When the sun rises from west, PS goes into Olympics...
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Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 21:57:14
Why would we use Olympic judges if we could use the original judges from WT and WC?
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Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 22:35:06
Somepeople consider PS as a sport, but elder people who don't PS will think its lame, Another problem is that will they allow you to spin modded pens? Or Maybe all peoples have to spin a MX or comssa with Olympic color themes.
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Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 12:22:55QUOTE (Wind @ Apr 1 2009, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why would we use Olympic judges if we could use the original judges from WT and WC?
Are there specified judges? As in, are all judges for all games in the Olympics the same? I don't know much about this but I guess the judges should be pretty experienced with PS if PS were to be one of the Games so judges from WT and WC would be used if there's PS in Olympics. -
Date: Fri, Apr 10 2009 21:31:06
it would be awsome and its not a waste... it be awsome cause u pwn/get pwned by ppl from around the world
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Date: Sat, Apr 11 2009 03:11:17QUOTE (Ayamin @ Apr 11 2009, 05:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it be awsome cause u pwn/get pwned by ppl from around the world
That already happens in the WT and WC. :\ -
Date: Sat, Apr 11 2009 06:18:20QUOTE (Wind @ Mar 31 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why would we use Olympic judges if we could use the original judges from WT and WC?
Because the WT/WC judges would never submit on time XD. -
Date: Sat, Apr 11 2009 15:09:43
i found this. it looks pretty nice. -
Date: Fri, May 1 2009 20:40:00
definitely not in the olympics. maybe one day they'll have some mainpulation competitions one day...
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Date: Tue, May 5 2009 15:27:45
no way.....penspinning is a hobby(or obession.....u can call it whatever way u want)but definitely not a sport.so there's nil chance of psing going to the olympics.
but yeah,i would be happy if it goes -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 04:19:47QUOTE (bioshock @ May 5 2009, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no way.....penspinning is a hobby(or obession.....u can call it whatever way u want)but definitely not a sport.so there's nil chance of psing going to the olympics.
but yeah,i would be happy if it goes
There are a lot of people for whom it's an art, not just a hobby. (not me, lol.) But still, yeah, the Olympics is for sports...