UPSB v3
Hand Care / Long fingers vs short fingers
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Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 22:42:11
Do you think that longer fingers are better for penspinning or shorter fingers
I have very long fingers and i find taht sometimes they get in the way when i'm passing from one finger to the next, especially when i'm doing fingerpass, but i find that longer fingers may have a bit more dexterity (but since i dont' have short fingers, i wouldn't know)
as for short fingers, I have no idea how it feels to have them since i don't
so which length do you feel is better for penspinning
if it turns out to be the shorter fingers, i'll think about chopping off a joint or two xD
jk
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Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 22:48:16
I have long fingers too, but I think this shouldn't really affect your spinning, since when you're good you should spin at the end of fingers anyway, so maybe just longer = better.
Dno, just my thoughs I am stil noob
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Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 22:55:02
I think it's cooler with long fingers, you can get bigger rotations kinda.
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Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 01:05:27
I'm only 13 so yeah.. I got small fingers. I guess having long fingers would allow the pen not to slip out as much. I think it would be better longer.
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Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 01:11:14
I think it just affects your style.
Bonito has short-ish fingers, but he owns.
Hunlanlin has long fingers, and he still owns.
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Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 05:53:37
Agree, it affects your style.
I remember seeing someone with long fingers, and it was freaking long, most of the time I only see his fingers moving. His presentation was not very good(forgot who is it). Maybe if he change his style of spinning, it would seems a lot better... -
Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 10:01:32
Agree with Sfsr. People with long fingers will spin more beautifully than those with short will do.
I have short fingers though...
Yet I don't think there are tricks that short fingers can't do. -
Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 10:06:29
How long are long fingers?
If your middle finger is 8.3 cm, is that considered long? -
Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 13:22:19QUOTE (DaThroat @ Dec 29 2007, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think it just affects your style.
Bonito has short-ish fingers, but he owns.
Hunlanlin has long fingers, and he still owns.
ma fingers and deathangels fingers are not as long as yours..
we have difficulty doing some stuff while for you it is easy
small way to test long fingers.. see if you can touch index and pinky together without any thumb support or anything. mr dathroat can do that fairly easily... man... his fingers are really long... if not.. his palms are small -
Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 15:44:30
Bull..
I practice therefore I do.
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Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 18:01:01QUOTE (Rekkuuzan @ Dec 29 2007, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How long are long fingers?
If your middle finger is 8.3 cm, is that considered long?
You must understand - this topic doesn't need to clarify long and short fingers, it's just discussion about if its better to have shorter or longer. My middle finger has 8.9cm btw -
Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 19:54:43
What matters is how long your fingers are compared to the whole hand, just your finger measure doesn't affect your spinning in any other way then that different pens are more comfortable.
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Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 20:49:45
People with longer fingers might be able to do stuff like sonic clip 4-1 but I don't think there are any tricks that only s hort stubby fingered people can do...
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Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 17:05:45
lol i have ''stubbyness'' which means the lenghth of my palm is longer than the lenghth of my fingers...
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Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 21:24:39QUOTE (Rekkuuzan @ Dec 29 2007, 05:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How long are long fingers?
If your middle finger is 8.3 cm, is that considered long?
well mine is 8.5 cm, and i thought that to be inhumanly long
, guess notQUOTE (ultimatsz @ Dec 29 2007, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>small way to test long fingers.. see if you can touch index and pinky together without any thumb support or anything. mr dathroat can do that fairly easily... man... his fingers are really long... if not.. his palms are small
well, at first i wasn't able to do this, but now i am...i think this developed after practiceQUOTE (ssssspin @ Dec 30 2007, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol i have ''stubbyness'' which means the lenghth of my palm is longer than the lenghth of my fingers...
well, i dont' think that should define stubbyness since the length of my palm is longer than the length of my fingers as well, but i have long fingers -
Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 21:35:39
Btw define length, since mine can be said to have 11.2cm (when I measure the length from tip to knuckle)
Or 9.2 cm if it's meant from the tip to the point where the actual finger can be seen
Or 8.9cm if it's to the point where the ring is in this photo -
Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 22:16:52
well i measured 8.5 cm from the base of that ring on that finger to the tip, but that's a good question
but i dont' think that it would go all teh way to the knuckle cause that doesn't really affect the spinning
as opposed to the area where the ring is which needs to be bent sometimes for tricks -
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 01:38:10
hmm....
there was once a finger length or palm : finger ratio thread somewhere.....
anyway, my palm : (middle) finger ratio is 1 : 1.
10 cm each. -
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 01:43:47
mhmm...that ratio thing that you just put up made me think of something, thanks
so referencing back to that previous pic, the length of a finger should definitely be to where the bottom of the ring is cause if you start measuring to the end of the knuckle, you start measuring the palm too (this is obvious with the middle finger)
you can't measure the same distance twice, so that knuckle distance would be part of the palm distance...it's just on the opposite side of teh palm -
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 10:28:29QUOTE (DaThroat @ Dec 31 2007, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>there was once a finger length or palm : finger ratio thread somewhere.....
I made that thread :>
Most peoples fingers make out about 45% of their hand size. -
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 11:00:13
okay, so the ratio is basically the same from one person to the next...do longer fingers affect penspinning in anyway different from shorter fingers
such as:
-learnign tricks faster/slower
-more dexterity
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Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 07:21:35
Just look at the koreans, 10/15cm hands, why are they so good ?... yes becuse they have shorter fingers, they are fester.
BUT I think longer hands/fingers are much better to get more style in the spinning.
I have round a 19cm long hand, I'm more slow when I spin.
Short hands/finger = Fast.
Long hands/fingers = Slow.
Often anyway ^^ -
Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 16:02:03
I agree with you, Ã…lan.
I don´t have long fingers, but I don´t have short fingers, either.
And I can´t say which kind of length I would prefer, because for me there´s no uniformly style in penspinning. -
Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 21:30:45
I wish I had shorter fingers.
Mods would looked bigger in my hands. =/ -
Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 23:19:31
so does that mean i have really short fingers 7.6 cm middle ?
i dont think it affects much, but i do notice I spin more fast than longer fingers even if i try slow... then again, mebe im just bad 
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Date: Fri, Feb 8 2008 20:47:10
shorter fingers. i love my small hands, pens look bigger and tricks faster
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Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 07:17:57
I would totally like to have longer fingers than I have but that would totally look out of place in terms of body proportions........ or maybe i should just make my pen smaller.?
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Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 09:52:52
mods look huge in my hands just check out some of my video in ecs tourament, the pen looks like my entire hand...
i am sorry but poor english does not provide me with an adequate explanation that i can use -
Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 22:50:25
I think short fingers would be a little better. I wouldn't know but I think it would be pretty nice; knowing the fact that I have long fingers. Like I always move my fingers out of the way when I'm doing types of tricks like Inverse Sonic Impulse.
Oh well.
EDIT: My middle finger is 9.7 cm. Wow -
Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 23:22:14
my middle finger is 7.5 cm -.- I have short and fat fingers, and some bend in wierd ways, but i have no problem spinning. its all in the effort i guess.
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Date: Thu, Feb 14 2008 06:46:01
Cloud Traveller=example of stubby fingers (at least they look short)
sausage fingers are win -
Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 05:56:33
whoever thinks their fingers are short (and assuming you are) my middle finger is 7cm xD (and hopefully yours aren't any shorter than mine xP)
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Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 06:53:13
people with shorter fingers can spin shorter pens with ease such as an mx
if you have monster hands its harder cause the pen is so small
and it seems like people with small hands own
they are fast and fluid, damn asians -
Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 07:25:58
haha, im an asian...my hands are very small!even shorter than SilentAzn's...
mine is 6.7cm middle finger...my friend hate my ballsign because its too short for him but i love it...
but i think long fingers are better when showing finger dexterity...like some tricks that have big rotation or movement of fingers like double charge...big fingers make the finger motion smoother but small hands wont...
thats what i can say...
and i have a friend with thick and short fingers...its so ugly.... -
Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 15:28:37
I don't think it matters, it's what you grow into that makes the way you spin or..not spin
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 15:33:52
It doesn't matter what size your hand is... just get a mod that fits you.
Since there's a bit of disadvantages of both long fingers and short fingers, i think medium length fingers are the best
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 01:42:41
Long fingers can make learning tricks such as Flush Sonic much easier. I took like 2 weeks to get Flush Sonic smooth and my fingers are about 7.8cm long. On the other hand, my friend has 9 cm long fingers and he took 1 day to get flush sonic smooth. Really! So long fingers are more of an advantage, as they let you perform those omgwtfbbq tricks easier. And you can always make your own self mod that is suitable for your finger length, just that you might not be able to use popular mods such as RSVP MXs and the like, so i dont think that is a huge advantage, and in short, long fingers are made of win.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 02:11:47QUOTE (Gunblakes @ Mar 11 2008, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Long fingers can make learning tricks such as Flush Sonic much easier. I took like 2 weeks to get Flush Sonic smooth and my fingers are about 7.8cm long. On the other hand, my friend has 9 cm long fingers and he took 1 day to get flush sonic smooth.
Everyone is good at learning different tricks, I got a friend who picked up TA faster then me, but he took a very long time to learn a TA reverse.QUOTE (Gunblakes @ Mar 11 2008, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Really! So long fingers are more of an advantage, as they let you perform those omgwtfbbq tricks easier. And you can always make your own self mod that is suitable for your finger length, just that you might not be able to use popular mods such as RSVP MXs and the like, so i dont think that is a huge advantage, and in short, long fingers are made of win.
Slightly longer fingers is good, nicer in presentation.
It let me remind of someone... -
Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 07:20:03QUOTE (Novastrike @ Mar 11 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It let me remind of someone...
*cough* Joash *cough* -
Date: Sun, Mar 16 2008 02:07:11
i don't really think the length matters because you could just get a smaller mod
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 05:31:18QUOTE (loonwern93 @ Mar 5 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>haha, im an asian...my hands are very small!even shorter than SilentAzn's...
mine is 6.7cm middle finger...my friend hate my ballsign because its too short for him but i love it...
but i think long fingers are better when showing finger dexterity...like some tricks that have big rotation or movement of fingers like double charge...big fingers make the finger motion smoother but small hands wont...
thats what i can say...
and i have a friend with thick and short fingers...its so ugly.... someone beat me to having short fingers...
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Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 03:26:11
my middle finger is about 8cm long.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 00:21:54QUOTE (TeddyTemptation @ Mar 15 2008, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i don't really think the length matters because you could just get a smaller mod
perhaps the palm size comparative to the fingers makes a difference. it probably matters how far away the fingers are from each other compared with how long they are. the ratios and stuff decides if u have this fat hand, or a long hand... i think these proportions are much more important than size length by itself. A small hand that is is similar (not congruent) to the large hand should be the same, but if not similar, then they will be different. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 03:30:49
Look at the size of my hand.
I do not see it as an advantage or disadvantage.
Just abnormally large and in charge.
It is all about the person not the hands.
I mean obviously if you have some sort of deformity you're probably at a distinct disadvantage, but aside from that I don't think that spinning is really affected by the size of a persons hands, looking at all the best pen spinners in the world they have a very diverse range of finger sizes, short, long, skinny, fat, ect.
Spinning level all boils down to dedication, practice, and drive. IMO -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 06:19:44
Uhm...Eriror has 22 cm hands doesn't he? Because he said in his latest day session, the MX is 4 cm shorter than his hand(MX is 18 so u add 4 it becomes 22) and Eriror spins an RSVP MSXA which is 1 cm shorter than his hand. I think it's just about your skill. The size of the hand doesn't really matter. Probably bumpy knuckles matter...
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 21:38:43
I think the had size doesn't matter (excluding infants and the very old) its mainly skill.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2008 22:42:13
Too short sucks, this person in my class is 15 and their hand is 5 cm from palm to middle finger tip. And too long is kinda retarded. So middle would be the Best
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Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 05:42:17QUOTE (SpinStar @ Apr 18 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Too short sucks, this person in my class is 15 and their hand is 5 cm from palm to middle finger tip. And too long is kinda retarded. So middle would be the Best
what would be considered middle? O.o -
Date: Fri, Jun 27 2008 01:01:38QUOTE (-JC- @ Dec 28 2007, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have very long fingers and i find taht sometimes they get in the way when i'm passing from one finger to the next, especially when i'm doing fingerpass,
i have me some tiny fingers, and i honestly believe that shorter fingers are harder, because you have less finger to work with, just like short legs are hard for running... but also, all pens are proportionally bigger, so you have some bonus momentum. also, its hard to keep things smooth with small fingers. -
Date: Fri, Jun 27 2008 01:09:01
Sausage fingers vs Toothpicks?
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Date: Fri, Jun 27 2008 03:49:06QUOTE (Retro-spectre @ Jun 26 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sausage fingers vs Toothpicks?
both: sausage on a toothpick -
Date: Fri, Jun 27 2008 16:36:36
Its not the size that matters...its how you use it.....
did someone already say this? -
Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 01:25:44
Yes... yes they did.
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Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 11:52:22
What about thin and fat fingers, i supose they make a difff
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 15:44:32QUOTE (DaThroat @ Dec 30 2007, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>anyway, my palm : (middle) finger ratio is 1 : 1.
10 cm each.
You're insane!! I'm 8.5 each.
I think long fingers are really fun to watch spin. Short fingers seem to look like they move too fast to me... just like ppl with shorter legs make good sprinters on occasion. -
Date: Mon, Aug 4 2008 09:08:22
my middle finger is 10cm or more. I don't know that if my finger is freaky long????
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Date: Tue, Aug 5 2008 09:53:36
Lol long fingers rule, i can't stand really short pens either but my friend whose fingers really damn short like a kids and can spin better then me T __ T
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Date: Tue, Aug 5 2008 10:48:03
i think that middle length are btter if that makes any sense lol
because there long enough to do the tricks that smaller fingers often mess up but not to long to get in the way -
Date: Fri, Aug 8 2008 13:06:55
I `ve long Fingers(middle ~10cm) and compared it to others with short Fingers.
I think it´s easier to learn new Tricks with them, buit its harder to become smooth and/or fast with them. -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 20:40:20
i think my fingers have a medium size/lenght
as others said, too short or too long fingers do not look nice -
Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 10:34:05
my fingers are short and fat ><
i have baby fat on my fingers and my middle finger is only like slightly over 7 cm
is there a disadvantage for spinning? all i know is that it looks fugly as hell -
Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 04:27:28
I think long fingers are better
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Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 05:46:25
mid = 9cm
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Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 06:02:16QUOTE (Jiinn @ Oct 9 2008, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>my fingers are short and fat ><
i have baby fat on my fingers and my middle finger is only like slightly over 7 cm
is there a disadvantage for spinning? all i know is that it looks fugly as hell
CLOUDTRAVELLER, BONITO, TAERYONG -
Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 17:05:40QUOTE (Jiinn @ Oct 9 2008, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>my fingers are short and fat ><
i have baby fat on my fingers and my middle finger is only like slightly over 7 cm
is there a disadvantage for spinning? all i know is that it looks fugly as hell
Only disadvantages I can think of is that it is harder to use longer pens if you have shorter fingers, but then, the shorter pens are in similar length to longer fingers in relatve means.
But as SJ said, you can be really good even with short fingers -
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 03:52:36QUOTE (JSH @ Nov 29 2008, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But as SJ said, you can be really good even with short and fat fingers
fix'd -
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 06:11:42QUOTE (Jiinn @ Oct 9 2008, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>my fingers are short and fat ><
i have baby fat on my fingers and my middle finger is only like slightly over 7 cm
is there a disadvantage for spinning? all i know is that it looks fugly as hell
There are a lot of spinners with short fingers. I don't consider them ugly. Oupha, mhig, and taeryong all have really nice styles.
My fingers are much uglier. :] -
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 17:18:07
Well, what would you consider long fingers and what would you consider short fingers?
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Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 19:06:14
i have very long fingers and i spin faster than my friend with shorter fingers
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Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 19:16:21
Look at it this way
If you have short fingers, transitions should be faster than if you longer fingers, theoritically speaking
So i guess that's an advantage -
Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 06:28:33
Hmm wtf my fingers are short but I spin really slowly, and I use long 22ish cm mods
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Date: Wed, Dec 24 2008 08:30:00
Mine fingers are pretty short, but i dont think about it when spinning buster cyl, KT or other mod, so i think short fingers are better.
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Date: Wed, Dec 24 2008 11:00:42
i have big hands =long fingers, imo its good because you have "better flexbility"
altough when someone "tiny" spins mx it looks cool...^^ -
Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 14:20:06
I have long fingers and they work well aside from the fact that fingerpass is rough because your fingers have to go a long way to get the pen past the former finger. I also think it may be a little bit harder to spin with faster speed because of the same reason, the pen takes longer to get through your fingers.
It's really easy to type on the keyboard though -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 16:04:19
It's don matter. xD