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Hand Care / Question about finger independence
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 15:32:48
Could anyone please tell me how I'm supposed to strength my fingers?
I got problems with folding my pinki and it makes my training time really hard.
thanks in advance for advices. -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 15:42:36
Problems with bending your pinky probably depends more on not being used to using your pinky (wich I guess means you are not very muscular there...), and the way to solve that problem is practising to bend every finger individually, not increasing your finger strength. tohlz posted a link to a Pentrix hand-exercise here, wich probably should help you.
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 15:56:02
Something you gotta keep in mind is that finger independency doesnt happen over a night. I think it took atleast 3-4 months befor I could bend my pinky without moving the other fingers.
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 16:04:10QUOTE (Sfsr @ Sep 10 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Problems with bending your pinky probably depends more on not being used to using your pinky (wich I guess means you are not very muscular there...), and the way to solve that problem is practising to bend every finger individually, not increasing your finger strength. tohlz posted a link to a Pentrix hand-exercise here, wich probably should help you.
Erm..
I found it earlier the problem is that I can do it with every finger but my pinky..
everytime i do it with my pinky i drop my ring finger too..
That's ok for now, right? -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 16:05:55
I still can't bend my pinky without any motion in my ringfinger at all, but I don't know if anyone can.
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 16:40:16
A very detailed explanation of why you can't bend your pinky without bending your ring finger
According to that article, statistically every 1 in 20 people can bend their pinky finger without bending the ring. I think it's a matter of learning how to control the muscles to get maximum results for your pinky. As to how you strengthen, I suggest just attempting to fold the pinky for 15-30 seconds at a time, then rest. Don't expect to have it fully bended, especially if you're 19 of the 20 that can't. -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 16:51:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKXI670qYOM
This man is unGodly! -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 16:59:18
Eso: those 1/20 people who can bend their pinky are the worlds penspinners
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 17:55:43
But they don't give exercice for it...Do you have a exercice for it ?
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 18:35:08
I can't bend my pinkyfinger to my palm, and it is very frustrating when you practising it, say... put your hand down on a table (palm up) and bend down all your fingers with the other hand against the table, exept the pinkyfinger, then you try to exersise your pinky, up and down and so on.
Very frustrating but very good exersise I think. -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 20:10:10
Learn to play guitar with both hands. I have a lot more dexterity and strength with my fret hand than my right.
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 20:16:38QUOTE (UnEmploymentDude @ Sep 10 2007, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Learn to play guitar with both hands. I have a lot more dexterity and strength with my fret hand than my right.
Well..
I got guitar ut i don't know how to play it,
Cloud please tell me about finger exercises with guitar?
i know there are some.. -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 20:24:33QUOTE (nwolf @ Sep 10 2007, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well..
I got guitar ut i don't know how to play it,
Cloud please tell me about finger exercises with guitar?
i know there are some..
Just play, start learning, play a few chords. If you feel the pain, its working! -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 20:39:23
Roffle @ EUD xD
Just practise bending it. You'll get it...eventually. -
Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 00:49:21
*Sigh*, handhealth anyone? Go to handhealth.com, you can find some good exercises there, my favourites for finger independence is the "one by ones" routine, and pencil pushups
http://www.handhealth.com/ffchallenge.asp here you can find the pencil push-ups and other fun challenges
http://www.handhealth.com/complete.asp - heres a link to the one by ones routine -
Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 00:55:32
Yo thanks dawg. much love yo.
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Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 02:26:19
I find if you use your other hand to keep three of your fingers straight then move your little finger in a beckoning motion you get the most dexterity exercise. When I first started I was like you. But after about a month of training I was able to move my little finger independently all the time. When you get good at that, start trying to bend your middle and little finger at the middle knuckle but not your ring or index finger, then alternate quickly and try to keep the ones you aren't bending straight.
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Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 05:54:51
Shoeman, those links are awesome, thanks!
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Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 06:08:01
What's weird for me is I can bend my left pinky down (not palm touch of course), without my ring finger folding. However, I can't do that with my right pinky.
I'm right-handed. -
Date: Tue, Sep 11 2007 07:04:55
i think i'm retarted..
i can't bend my middle finger without moving my ring finger..
it doesn't move much but it still moves abit.. -
Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 01:30:27
Hm.. I can bend my pinky without having to bend my ring finger... I'm one of the 20 people! I can also move my ears volunteerly >.> I think I'm weird >.< Oh well.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 03:21:20
I would like to know if pro spinners like Eriror, Bonkura, fratleym etc are all of these 1 in 20 people...
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 09:48:00
haha.. i know i can't bend BOTH my ring AND pinky without moving my other fingers.
if that what makes bonkura so stylish, my dreams will just explode.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 23:07:19
I don't see what the big deal is. It just takes practice imo. You might have not been lucky to hit the genetic lottery to bend your pinky without moving your ring finger... But if you do your finger exercises everyday, it shouldn't be a problem in the end. I've been doing finger exercises everyday for about 3 months and my ring finger barely moves now when i bend my pinky.
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Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 00:34:51
I would say its a big deal because in today's society we are all used to things happening quickly and easily. Children these days dont know the value of patience.
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Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 05:22:00
Its just muscle independence, like winking or rubbing your belly and patting your head. The only genetic one I can think of is rolling your tongue, some people can do it some people can't.
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Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 05:37:38
It's not so much being impatient but more along the lines of analyzing one's own potential for future penspinning. You see a video of people with crazy independent finger movement and find out that only 1/20 people can do this so if you dont have this trait you're suddenly at a disadvantage. People always look up to pro spinners so for example, Eriror has stated that he can touch his pinky to his palm while not moving the other 3 fingers (like that youtube video) so now since i do not and will never have the ability to do that i'm under the impression that i'll never be as good as Eriror. Of course you can always argue that i can instead develop my own style and become good in a different way but the bottom line is that i am genetically inferior.
Another example would be those long distant runners who are born in the mountains where their lungs become stronger due to living in such a high atmosphere versus someone who was born and trained at sea level...the sea level athlete can always train their lung capacity/strength but they still are and will always be genetically inferior.
...depressing, huh? -
Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 08:30:17
wow.. ouch..
i'm just wondering. anyone here can bend his/her ring finger BACKWARDS as much as any of the other fingers? as in, to make inverse sonics and ringbaks easier. can anyone do this, or has trained to do this? -
Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 08:43:06
K4S, why would you need your pinky to bend independently anyway? you can go around any inability to move your fingers in some way.. I have a BIG problem with moving my thumb independently,, when I bend it, ALL the other fingers bend with it too, and the index finger bends A LOT.. but it still hadn't bothered me with manipulating pens, balls, coins or cards. It caused problems of course, but I always found a way around it..
So you can stop with the "genetically inferior" stuff, because that just sounds like an excuse to not being the best, you want to be the best or do you want to make excuses?? -
Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 21:38:22
Again, im just looking at this from an assessing-one's-own-potential at a glance. What actually happens will completely depend on the spinner. And while there will be work arounds to some fingering problems, some things are limited to how you can bend your fingers physically. For instance, i cannot physically do an inverse sonic 24-12 because my 1 and 4 simply cant touch each other in that position and therefore i cant even grip the pen.
But in a sense you're right...it is a little early to say that it's impossible since ive designed some odd finger exercises that have already taught me to touch 1 and 4 in other positions. -
Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 23:17:46
I can independantly bend any of my fingers (I guess i'm the youtube video guy? xD)
To be honest, what can that help me with? Sonic and Sonic Clip? 2 tricks that i actually cant do, after hours and hours of practicing them.
As for bending independant fingers, it just...happened, it kinda flicks out of place halfway down, and goes down a different... "path" of my bone to touch my palm, if that makes sense.
If ANYONE is honestly interested in what i mean, i'll try and make a bending fingers tutorial.
Health.
Quick Edit:- If you didnt read, I can do it, and i suck at PSing, and i know thats horribly offtopic. And as for bending my pinky to my palm, i never "Learnt" it, but i can kinda feel how its done, so if anyone wants a detailed explanation, i'll try... -
Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 23:21:12QUOTE (Health @ Sep 17 2007, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If ANYONE is honestly interested in what i mean, i'll try and make a bending fingers tutorial.
That would be VERY kawiii!!!! ^_________________________________________^;;;;;;;;;;;;
But, er, seriously, yeah, that would be cool -
Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 23:36:45
I'll post it tomorrow hopefully.
I doubt ive explained it very well >_>
but yeah, if anyone has questions, ask me and ill try to answer
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Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 14:33:42
http://media.putfile.com/Pinky-Help
I explain it, but maybe i suck at explaining... i hope you can get some use out of it anyways.
Sorry for the welsh accent/untidy room/bad descriptions/waste of 2 mins in advance. -
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 03:59:48
That is rather interesting how that works. When i try to bend my pinky independently the farthest i can get it is a 90 degree bend at the second joint from the tip...if i want to bend it more than that then i have to move my ring finger.
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 18:27:14
I can bend the second joint from the tip all the way with all my fingers withough moving anything else, and I realize now that moving the knuckle joint without moving anything else at all just doesn't work since the fingers are connected by skin, which Health said in his pretty film
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Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 13:53:28
Unless you flick it out a lil...
I'm a bad explainer xD -
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 14:04:20
erm.. Health.. is there supposed to be some kind of painful stretch? cos thats what happens when i tried. i did manage to touch, but it was with much effort. but when i tried a while later, i could no longer do it as the pain had reached another level. is this what we call.... exercise?
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Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 14:41:03
Yeah, It hurts after awhile, and it hurts if you keep doing it....but doing it a few times is fine.
I could always touch, but its taken me awhile to be able to do it fluidly and quickly. -
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 15:04:38
I should be struck with jealousy but I'm not
I've got 3 joints on my index fingers, 2 joints in most and one joint in my right pinky.
Beats the crap out of anyone else -
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 19:52:40QUOTE (Viend @ Sep 20 2007, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've got 3 joints on my index fingers, 2 joints in most and one joint in my right pinky.
Uh, i dont follow that statement...? Everyone has 3 joints on their fingers. -
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 19:57:28
He means he has a genetic mutation which phonoe's include the lack of joints.
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Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 20:52:27
Really? So his pinky (1 joint) would be a solid piece of bone with the only joint being the one connecting it to the rest of his hand?
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Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 00:25:57
Creepy, isnt it?
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Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 06:57:21
Pictures please!!!
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Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 07:25:56
1 joint finger? are you kidding? sorry i may sound rude, but that is just WEIRD..
sorry. -
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 11:56:52
Actually I've been wondering for a while whether it was 2 joints with one kinda fused or just one.
Basically I can bend the second half of my pinky(that sound correct?) but I can't bend the whole finger so when I clench a fist it sticks out.
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Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 12:39:52QUOTE (Viend @ Sep 21 2007, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually I've been wondering for a while whether it was 2 joints with one kinda fused or just one.
Basically I can bend the second half of my pinky(that sound correct?) but I can't bend the whole finger so when I clench a fist it sticks out.
I want like, a thousand picture with different poses and shit.. pretty please man! -
Date: Fri, Sep 21 2007 17:22:21QUOTEActually I've been wondering for a while whether it was 2 joints with one kinda fused or just one.
Basically I can bend the second half of my pinky(that sound correct?) but I can't bend the whole finger so when I clench a fist it sticks out. huh.gif
haha, I am already intrigued.....Must See -
Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 04:58:35
Not just pics, we need x-ray's...this is interesting
Im guessing it's probably a fused joint rather than a single piece of bone. Were you're hands always like this or did you break a finger during a sport and it just never healed properly? -
Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 09:27:50QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 22 2007, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not just pics, we need x-ray's...this is interesting
Im guessing it's probably a fused joint rather than a single piece of bone. Were you're hands always like this or did you break a finger during a sport and it just never healed properly?
I don't have a cam.
And yes it was a fused joint but I also broke it and never got any treatment so now I can't move the whole finger at all. Only the tip. -
Date: Sat, Sep 22 2007 17:12:23
Argh I can independently move all the fingers on my left hand.. But not the right (because I play violin). That pisses me off.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3592/fingersjl7.jpg (I look stoned) -
Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 05:35:58
goto a Target or wal-mart or a sporting goods store and look for a device called a gripper. Not just the 2 handle thing. It'll have 4 mini fingerplatforms. (i love it) but that'll help strengthen fingers very much so.
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Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 00:24:12QUOTE (Viend @ Sep 22 2007, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't have a cam.
And yes it was a fused joint but I also broke it and never got any treatment so now I can't move the whole finger at all. Only the tip.
borrow one! it's for the sanity of the community! -
Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 03:27:23
My sister had a problem like Viend's except it was the opposite
She couldn't straighten her thumb so it was always bent
She had to get surgery to fix it.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 13:04:58QUOTE (Lucky 13 @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My sister had a problem like Viend's except it was the opposite
She couldn't straighten her thumb so it was always bent
She had to get surgery to fix it.
I thought of getting surgery to get my joint fixed too but then I realised how stupid it was to do that as I had gotten used to using four fingers for many tasks meant for 5 fingers. After breaking the joint and not getting treatment I thought about it again and came to the same conclusion. Maybe if it re-breaks I might do something about it
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 15:44:38
Learn Guitar Hero in w/e hand you spin with. It boosts your Hand Dexterity AMAZINGLY. After 3months of guitar hero on my left hand. I can sonicclip 14 no problem, 13 no trouble either. even 24 is easy. It really is the ultimate key to giving your hand great dexterity.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 15:55:31QUOTE (iMatt @ Oct 2 2007, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Learn Guitar Hero in w/e hand you spin with. It boosts your Hand Dexterity AMAZINGLY. After 3months of guitar hero on my left hand. I can sonicclip 14 no problem, 13 no trouble either. even 24 is easy. It really is the ultimate key to giving your hand great dexterity.
I finished GHII on Expert with my left hand and the most I can do with my left hand is a thumbaround that fails 90% of the time. -
Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 15:01:44QUOTE (Viend @ Oct 2 2007, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I finished GHII on Expert with my left hand and the most I can do with my left hand is a thumbaround that fails 90% of the time.
in that case your an freakish anomaly idk, worked for me
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Date: Thu, Oct 11 2007 21:39:25
i have a problem with my ring finger and im wondering if other people have the samle problem.
the problem is that i cannot raise my ring finger (maybe 1 cm) this makes it very difficult to do proper (smooth) twisted sonic 34-23 and impossible to do inverse sonic 34-23. i can bend the fingers independently at the middle knuckle but it feels like the base knuckles are seemingly fused together. i use the finger exercises at handhealth.com
but 3 months later i still cannot raise my ring finger higher than i could the first week. suggestions anyone?
if you don't know what im talking about id be glad to take a picture and show you.
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Date: Thu, Oct 11 2007 22:13:11
Scyros, when i place my palm on the table i can lift my ring finger about 3cm without lifting the other fingers....however i could not initially do this. When i was learning twisted sonic 34-23 i could only lift it about 1cm as well so every once and a while i'd do finger exercises including placing my hand on a table and just lifting my ring finger up and down. And then one day out of the blue i tried twisted sonic 34-23 and i could do it...it was weird but i was happy
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On top of practicing twisted sonic 34-23 i would recommend you keep doing the finger exercises...they really do help a lot but it takes time. Also make sure you do whatever finger exercises every day to speed up the process. -
Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 03:29:15
how the hell are you measuring, I can lift my ring 5.5cm
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 03:39:36
Put your hand flat, palm down on a table. Lift your ring finger without lifting any other finger. And i measured from the underside of my ring finger (the part opposite to your fingernail)
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 03:43:31
well this metric is not very useful because it largely depends on the length of the finger of the person. (unless you ask everybody to measure the height at exactly X cm from the base of the finger.)
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 03:59:22
You make a good point but my little 9 year old sister can lift her finger 1.5 cm high and she has tiny girl hands lawl. She plays piano though which just goes to show that piano helps finger dexterity
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 07:57:54
i think almost everyone cannot lift their ring finger much.
i think we should measure how much you lift it in degrees.
i can only lift my ring finger roughly 25 degrees off the table, whereas my other fingers go about 80 degrees.
my ring finger sucks big time, but with practice, i've still managed to learn double charge 34-23 and 34-13. practice is the key to everything i believe. -
Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 09:28:20
well thanks for your input guys, i have been practicing devil's shadow 23-23 and its kind of helping. besides any of the exercises at handhealth.com can anyone recommend an exercise for increasing independence in the ring finger(bending away from the palm)?
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 12:49:42
i think the 'taps' and 'pushes' from the 'one by ones' dance in handhealth.com are good for that, also the lifting a selected finger (ring finger in your case) away from the table sounds like a good exercise to me..
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 20:10:27
thanks shoeman, may i ask how long do you do these exercises per day? or anyone for that matter.
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 22:15:19
finger fitness exercises were the only thing i did for about a month before starting to manipulate stuff.. but then i started doing it less and less,, i'm still pretty good but not as greg lol, i sometimes do it while im taking a shit..
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Date: Sat, Oct 13 2007 04:55:03
I found finger push-ups and one-by-ones very helpful. Do them a few times a day.
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Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 10:29:20
Dude Nova you can lift your other fingers 80 degrees? id like to see that
freaky fingers. mine barely go 45 degrees.
I can lift my ring finger independantly, try holding your other fingers down and just lifting your ring, or do a kind of inverse sonic clip 42 without the pen. -
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 10:43:43
lol health. from your reaction i can guess you think my fingers have some sort of double joint or something.
no.. what i meant was you lift you fingers to a point where you can't raise it any higher without lifting the base of you finger connected to you palm off the table(around 50-60 degrees here). then raise higher(assuming index) without moving the rest of the bases of your other fingers.
my ring finger can't even raise the it's base. i raise my finger tips and it sort of stops there.
i don't have super fingers(though i wish i did). my fingers are normal except my ring i think, which is exceptionally weaker and less flexible.
but with practice, everythin can be done. i've even learnt inverse sonic clip 24 recently. -
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 14:45:02
OH btw!! theres a finger fitness forum down at HandLordz and greg is there in the flesh he could answer every question you have
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Date: Thu, Dec 20 2007 09:26:56
yay i can do this!^^ but i cant do the ring finger lifting, so noob.
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Date: Thu, Dec 20 2007 12:23:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWMflRdOo24
did you guys ever see this? i dont really use it except doing the first excercise on all my fingers but some of you might be interested.. -
Date: Thu, Dec 20 2007 21:37:14QUOTE (Sfsr @ Sep 10 2007, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Eso: those 1/20 people who can bend their pinky are the worlds penspinners
In that case, then I'm a pro penspinner P:
I can bend any of my fingers individually, in both hands.... plus, I can do waves P:QUOTE (ShoeMan @ Dec 20 2007, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWMflRdOo24
did you guys ever see this? i dont really use it except doing the first excercise on all my fingers but some of you might be interested..
looks cool..... I'll try them out when I'll be less tired >.> -
Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 23:40:17
Does not being able to bend your finger individually mean you can't be a pen spinner, should i just give up now? because my pinky can't move at all without my ring finger bending so the finger pass is very hard, i can barely do it at all, let alone having it be smooth, its always jerky and doesn't look good
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Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 01:14:00
If you seriously cannot use your pinky finger...then just don't use your pinky finger.
You still have four fingers available you, which still gives you a lot of options, plus you may be able to work out enough pinky independence later on for it to become useful. -
Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 01:30:39
but isn't the finger pass an important fundemental to a LOT of tricks?
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Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 02:24:28
The combo is a Fundamental since it uses all fingers. It can help build up strength and coordination between all of the them. The entire Fingerpass combo is rarely used in combos, since it's just the same trick in different finger slots. You can still combine Passes between the other fingers with Charges to do Twisted Sonics and you can still do Sonics between other fingers and Wipers and arounds and a lot of ther tricks without using the pinky finger. While you are learning many more tricks just using the other fingers, I would suggest still trying to practice moving your pink finger alone using the exercising talked about in this forum's threads and trying to see if any new tricks can be done in the 34 slot that do not need a lot of pinky movement.
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Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 16:24:32
alright, thanks, i'll keep practicing with the pinky, hopefully it works out
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Date: Thu, Jan 10 2008 18:45:37
i can bend all my fingers independently without practice on both hands
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Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 02:57:51
Huh, i can EASILY independently move all my fingers, even my pinky. Not like that Youtube link posted, but around there...Problem is is that i'm not a very good pen spinner (yet
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Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 13:41:51QUOTE (UnEmploymentDude @ Sep 10 2007, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Learn to play guitar with both hands. I have a lot more dexterity and strength with my fret hand than my right.
my left pinky is stronger too because i play guitar and lead parts too but im a righty.... MY Right hand is weaker than my left
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Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 22:05:38
I have a question about finger independance...
It is ; Is there anyone who ever had tht problem (the pinky & ring fingers always fold together >.>) and now, tht problem is solved due to practice of finger excercises? If so, pliz tell me precisely the finger excercises you did -
Date: Tue, Feb 5 2008 18:04:17
i've never heard that pinky and ring finger fold together :/
practice with bending your fingers on every joint without bending you other fingers. you can help with your other hand in the beginning. and do some piano exercises.
do you think that breaking you knuckles helps? -
Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 20:23:26QUOTE (DamonX @ Feb 4 2008, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a question about finger independance...
It is ; Is there anyone who ever had tht problem (the pinky & ring fingers always fold together >.>) and now, tht problem is solved due to practice of finger excercises? If so, pliz tell me precisely the finger excercises you did
I'd also love to hear about someone who maneged to fix this problem through finger exercises, please do tell us. -
Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 20:54:13
i just sticked over my pinky like this:
and kept it like that for 1 hr, than I try to bend it without my ringfinger. IT WORKED !!! rly -
Date: Thu, Mar 6 2008 13:20:18
very interesting... I'll try that!
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Date: Thu, Mar 6 2008 14:08:48QUOTE (Susho @ Mar 4 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i just sticked over my pinky like this:
and kept it like that for 1 hr, than I try to bend it without my ringfinger. IT WORKED !!! rly
lol, Are you serious? Can you freely bend it now? Because it just sounds a little too convenient. -
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 14:45:43QUOTE (kron @ Mar 3 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'd also love to hear about someone who maneged to fix this problem through finger exercises, please do tell us.
Its easy. After about 2 weeks of just bending my pinky when i felt like it, now i can bend it independently of my other fingers. Also, one weird thing: I'm right handed, yet my left pinky is independent, while my right pinky needed some work to make it independent. Ah, the little quirks of nature.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 05:54:54QUOTE (DamonX @ Feb 4 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a question about finger independance...
It is ; Is there anyone who ever had tht problem (the pinky & ring fingers always fold together >.>) and now, tht problem is solved due to practice of finger excercises? If so, pliz tell me precisely the finger excercises you did
i dont really know why, but my pinkies are already completely independant
i believe what you're talking about is, for example, how if you do a double charge, your pinky bends with your ring finger even though it doesnt need to
and if you do a twisted sonic 34-23 your index goes forward when it doesnt need to
to fix that, if you want to, try doing the trick extremely slowly, and focus on not moving that finger -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 11:11:38QUOTE (kron @ Mar 6 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol, Are you serious? Can you freely bend it now? Because it just sounds a little too convenient.
ye I can click! to see
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Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 02:36:20QUOTE (Susho @ Mar 8 2008, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ye I can click! to see
Gonna call BS on this method...
Hate to resurrect an old thread but I'm having some issues with pinky that Im curious if I can actually fix. I have the same problems as the rest of the board, which is I cant independently bend my pinky towards my palm without identical movement of the ring finger. The ring finger, however, moves fine on its own. So, I'm working on some independence training, and hoping for some improvement. Mostly, Im stuck trying the 'palm flat on table and lift each finger' method, and holding fingers straight while (attempting to) fold the pinky. I'm also working a lot on fingerpasses. Reverse FP is ok, but I can only do a reg. FP with some pen momentum.
Are there any proven methods you guys recommend, or just keep doing what I'm doing.
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 09:17:13QUOTE (UnEmploymentDude @ Sep 11 2007, 04:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Learn to play guitar with both hands. I have a lot more dexterity and strength with my fret hand than my right.
I spin and press the strings with the same hand so it's kinda cool. Mutual help lol. -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 15:01:27
My hand is horrible, whenever I do a charge 1-2 my pinky figner scrunches back at a 90 degree angle, and I cant make it go up except with sheer will and force...
MY pinky scrunches back....
WHenever I do a reverse sonic my thumb tends to bend in.... yah lots of bad habits... -
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 02:19:18
two examples of finger independency
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Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 12:22:14
Nice, the first wun wasn't to hardc fer me to do but the second one was impossible *cries* i'm a failure... I think the better penspinners have moreindependent fingers...
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Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 03:51:50
yea it took me a long ass time to get that, im working on regular double charge 34 i almost got it
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Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 12:03:42
Maybe if I practice and spend time trying Ill get it down... meh... I guess at school ill practice =]...
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Date: Sat, Feb 28 2009 03:31:13
I have been playing Viola (a stringed instrument, like the violin) for about seven years. In my right hand I can bend my pinkie down to almost touching my palm, but I can't even get close with my left hand. I guess it could be just that I am lucky, and one of the 1 out of 20 (but only in my right hand?) but I'd like to think it's the viola. The right hand has a totally different hand position when playing, so who knows.
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Date: Sat, Feb 28 2009 05:56:46
I play the violin but it's only in my left hand that I can bend my pinky down. Normally for string players this is so because　finger placement on the neck of the instrument requires a lot of dexterity.
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Date: Sat, Feb 28 2009 06:36:44
I also play the violin, I should think that you would be able to do it with your left hand like me (although I am left handed) since your left hand is your fingering hand.
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Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 04:12:35
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY I just tried the method someone had posted involving taping your pinky finger down for a while...
I CAN BEND MY PINKY ON MY RIGHT HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
sorry if this is a spammy post but I just wanted to confirm this method and to reccomend it to anyone who wants to try. however it only works for some people but just try anyway. the first time i tried it didnt work but i tried again and this time i can bend it. -
Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 14:15:16
No, it works for everyone, I used the tape method to eleminate thumb movements during combos =] it's a great way to improve your spinning in like, a day =D!