UPSB v3
Hand Care / Can pen spinning in the other hand help make ambidexterity?
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Date: Fri, May 30 2008 00:47:34
after spinning in your other hand(the unfavored hand) long enough and with much practice, do you think you can end up with amperdexterity?
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Date: Fri, May 30 2008 00:58:12
I think you mean ambidextrous.
Pen spinning with your other hand can help, I think you need to be able to do most activities with both hands adequately to call your self ambidextrous. I think writing with your non-dominant hand will build it the fastest, it feels awkward at first but after some practice it will feel more natural. My right is messy still but it is improving (I write left handed naturally). Spinning is a start but you'll need more then that. -
Date: Fri, May 30 2008 02:02:44
Yeah, I don't think pen spinning with your non-dominant hand will help things such as throwing with your non-dominant hand. I hate throwing with my non-dominant hand, I look like a queer. xD
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Date: Fri, May 30 2008 04:51:07
Any time you practice anything with a hand you're not used to using you're going to improve the hand in general. Even switching your mouse hand can have significant short and long term effects. Certainly pen spinning with your opposite hand will create hand strength and control in that hand that you didn't have before.
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Date: Fri, May 30 2008 05:05:37
there is natural ambidexterity and forced ambidexterity
less than 0.01% of the population is naturally ambidexterous
unnatural ambidexterity isn't really ambidexterity at all... if you can spin a pen with both hands it doesn't mean you're ambidexterous. It just means you can spin a pen with both hands. Ambidexterity is having no dominant side, which isn't something you can learn.
That being said, you can still make your recessive hand more dexterous by using it for things like spinning
Btw, the eye dominance test can be used to determine ambidexterity -
Date: Tue, Mar 3 2009 21:55:55QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ May 30 2008, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>there is natural ambidexterity and forced ambidexterity
less than 0.01% of the population is naturally ambidexterous
unnatural ambidexterity isn't really ambidexterity at all... if you can spin a pen with both hands it doesn't mean you're ambidexterous. It just means you can spin a pen with both hands. Ambidexterity is having no dominant side, which isn't something you can learn.
That being said, you can still make your recessive hand more dexterous by using it for things like spinning
Btw, the eye dominance test can be used to determine ambidexterity
I apologize for starting this topic up again, but I disagree with Shadow. To be dexterous is to be skillful in one's hands. so if you think about it, ambidexterous doesnt have to be only able to write with both hands, it could also mean pen spinning with both hands, etc. So for people who can do 1p2h or 2p2h, i think they should look at themselves as being ambidexterous. because when someone asks me if i am left handed, i say no, because i can spin 2 pens using 2 hands.
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Date: Tue, Mar 3 2009 22:33:49
I am 99% ambidextrous...
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Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 00:05:51QUOTE (Wind @ Mar 3 2009, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am 99% ambidextrous...
lol well i guess you are one of those people who are born with natural talent
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Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 00:09:41
No matter how much you practice, you will not become ambidexterous. One hand will always be dominant. If you practice a lot with your non-dominant hand and less with your dominant, your weaker hand may become better at pen spinning, however, it still will not become your dominant hand!
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Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 00:16:08QUOTE (Jtrophy @ Mar 3 2009, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I apologize for starting this topic up again, but I disagree with Shadow. To be dexterous is to be skillful in one's hands. so if you think about it, ambidexterous doesnt have to be only able to write with both hands, it could also mean pen spinning with both hands, etc. So for people who can do 1p2h or 2p2h, i think they should look at themselves as being ambidexterous. because when someone asks me if i am left handed, i say no, because i can spin 2 pens using 2 hands.
look i'm talking scientific definitions, to be naturally ambidextrous is to have no dominant side. sure you can learn everything on both hands and be dexterous on both hands, but that is not being naturally ambidextrous. you cannot become ambidextrous in the literal sense, it is a born state -
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 08:59:28
taking it back a step, i use my left hand/fingers for violin, and i feel that it hasn't improved my pen spinning ability on my left (maybe you think this should be in the music thread, but hold for a second)
it might improve hand flexibility etc. but i dont think it will make a significant difference
stupid thing to say, but this is my general idea of things:
because i want to master a tw sonic bust, i will practice doing shadow still
sure, that might improve finger flexibility/strength etc. but it wont help me do a tw sonic bust any better that greatly
yes, i know that if i would want to master tw sonic bust, i would most probably practice tw sonic and IA, but they're components of it, that example would be like painting with my left to improve my writing
wow, i think i just made an example for an example...... -
Date: Thu, Mar 5 2009 04:58:51QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Mar 3 2009, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>look i'm talking scientific definitions, to be naturally ambidextrous is to have no dominant side. sure you can learn everything on both hands and be dexterous on both hands, but that is not being naturally ambidextrous. you cannot become ambidextrous in the literal sense, it is a born state
Shadow's right, like he said there are two types of ambidexterity, natural and developed. And TheSpinner3.5 sounds like hes talking about developing natural ambidexterity.
Just because you can spin and jack off with both hands doesnt qualify you for the ambidextrous club. -
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 17:23:05
there are also people who are partially ambidextrous. they can write and throw pretty well with both naturally. but for some reason they arent fully ambidextrous. can anyone shine some light on this?
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Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 21:40:10
i'm not a natural at ambidextrous, but for a while, i've been doing things with both hands, playing guitar, writing and such. so now i can do things with both hands, but my right hand's still better, just slightly. however my left hand sucks at spinning, but my right's eh. i'm still a noob so what can i say. but right now, whatever trick i learn on my right, i learn it with the left eventually. so i guess i'm a developING ambidextrous.
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Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 22:53:25
Maybe......but you probably have to practice with your other hand for quite a while
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 07:31:23
I am right handed. After spinning with my left hand, i can write better with it.
So, yes it works. -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 08:15:40
I'm right handed
I think ambidextrous is defined by the performance of the brain.
if your left hand can do all your right hand can do or either ways, it's not always ambidextrous.
Like the other post says that there is always dominant hand, there is also a dominant part of the brain(of course!) -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 08:19:17
all of you guys are experiencing something very simple
you're developing muscles in your non dominant side
that's it
it's easier to write after spinning because you've developed muscles
that does not eliminate the fact that you have a dominant side -
Date: Tue, Mar 17 2009 11:12:45QUOTE (midnight_xhris @ Mar 15 2009, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>there are also people who are partially ambidextrous. they can write and throw pretty well with both naturally. but for some reason they arent fully ambidextrous. can anyone shine some light on this?
That one side of the brain is dominant, but not as dominant as a dominant side would normally be? -
Date: Tue, Mar 17 2009 16:02:10
I have an interesting situation. Half of the things I do (writing, spinning, Fencing) I do with my left hand, but the other half (guitar, drums, computer mouse, kicking sports) I do with my right side. I have a preferred side for each activity, but i can do no activity comfortably with both sides. Am I ambidextrous or not? (this is with no dominance training).
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 11:53:08
Well, I know TA and TA rev and sonic with the other hand, my mom tells me to spin more often with other hand so it can be balanced. BTW, my moms learning PS!!!
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 12:26:51QUOTE (HKspinner @ Mar 22 2009, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, I know TA and TA rev and sonic with the other hand, my mom tells me to spin more often with other hand so it can be balanced. BTW, my moms learning PS!!!
mum learning PS? thats a first @.@
anyway, i learned most of my tricks "naturally" on my other hand. bakfall isnt one of them tho.
however when i learned flush sonic on my right hand i got it right away on my left hand too. -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 23:56:39
Just saying, but my left hand, i use for tennis, pen spinning, and writing. my right hand, i can use rubber-band manipultion, mouse for the computer, and some other things. with this said, my left hand is based off of muscle memory. but my right hand is more dextrerous. btw, i play piano with both hands equally xD
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Date: Wed, Mar 25 2009 15:38:32
i suck at penspinning in my left hand, but its not as bad as it was when i started. cuz when u know the motions for one hand its a hell of a lot easier to apply it to the other hand.
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Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 15:48:23
then is it possible to change ur dominant hand?
natural ambidextrous is rare. if u learning penspinning on the non dominant hand, it might mean that ur non dominant hand can only PS imo.